The strange thing about suicide is that it actually feels good to fantasize about it. As a depressed person, it's an uplifting feeling knowing that I can end all the madness at any time I want. Knowing that that I have every justification in the world to end my life, yet I don't. That is power.
@@toxic_narcissist Yeah he probably does. But he's right. I feel the same too. The thought of suicide is actually sort of motivating in a way. You get braver to do what you wanted to do in life, because if things went south you always have suicide by your side. What's more there to lose
I'm just saying, but we up here in Canada (the country that Jordan is from) don't trust him. It's just Americans on UA-cam who do. This is like, the 5th video that I've seen him fake cry in. I believe that the last thing that I saw him "cry" over was Ellen/Elliot Page. I also saw him cry over Olivia Wilde (Thirteen from House). Same with other narcissists like Justin Trudeau - we don't like him, either." I also once saw him cry over a question that Joe Rogan asked him (I believe that it was about climate change). I've also seen him cry over Jesus. He also cried when he was told that the "Don't Worry Darling" villain was modeled after him. There are compilation videos on UA-cam of him "crying" over several different topics, and there are lists on Reddit of topics that he's cried over.
I used to think suicide was a selfish thing, I remember I had arguments with my friend about it and I always said it was such a selfish thing. Then my dad killed himself and I thought about the analogy of a burning house, and I understood, but then, in my grief, I began to blame him again. Why would he leave me? I don't deserve that, I thought. But now, years later, I understand his reasons. I still hate him for doing it, but I also understand. In his head, he didn't have any other option. I love you dad
Your dad killing himself wasn't anything to do with wanting to leave you or not caring. I have mental illness and suicide often in my thoughts but I love my son more than anything yet I could kill myself. It sounds like a paradox but if it was a physical illness and I was in pain constantly confined to a bed and not able to function then I think people could understand why I would want the life machine turned off and they would likely want it turned off for me, with some mental health it's like that but not so obvious much harder to relate too and understand. It's not so easy to understand for me either or anyone with it, so I keep fighting but I do often refer to my suicide plan for comfort makes me feel better that I could stop the pain, ask anyone who has been ill and really close to death, suffering, they will tell you they don't fear death in that moment and all they want is death. I'm sorry you lost your dad.
your Dad seen the world for what a hell hole it really is.......however he should of never reproduced. I never reproduced because this world is a hell scape "God" is mean cruel he designed a world were a baby fawn deer is eaten alive by a Mountain Lion do I blame the Mountain Lion NO it has to eat or it will starve to death but think of the living thing that the Mountain Lion is eating how painful and how horrific of a death that is. I eat beef and I am ashamed for that Cattle ( they never had a choice to be born a cow) are harvested for human consumption ( I also make my living raising cattle) I woke up the other week and realized how sick and cruel this world is that I play "God" with other living beings in order to survive so what does that say about "God"?
If your dad had not followed through, as a person who is very blessed to have survived, myself. The pain was the reason, he is sorry he left you and didn't appreciate the truth of the impact it made on you not being here. He would never want you to feel hate in your heart. The pain you suffer through important moments and missing him, is understandable. Please forgive him for yourself. If he could see your suffering now his decision would have been different. The pain blinded him. I am personally sorry this happened to you. I pray that you are blessed and comforted. Please allow my apology to be sufficient, I too was 3 times ignorant, and blinded by pain. It is a dark cloud nearly impossible to see through. You deserved him to be here. He accepts your anger, and let me tell you he is angry at himself as well. I know at times I still am with myself.
Батрић Гарић a wonderful, sensitive human being who helps shine a light on so many corners of the human heart and soul... Long may he do so. I applaud his huge heart, sensitivity, and incredible intelligence.
I’m sorry to hear that. December 2021 my brother committed suicide. It was a week before Christmas. I hadn’t seen him in two years at the time and the guilt is sometimes a lot. You’re not alone in your pain.
This really reminded me of my dads suicide. 14 years ago he took his life I removed the rope from the rafter moved the chair away so family didn’t see that. It’s never left but it gets easier. The best way to see it after many years of depression and suicidal thoughts that preceded his death is that you know whatever was going through his mind or how dark things were for him is that he doesn’t have that pain and that’s a big big thing to see but very hard until you’ve walked that line.
This man literally saved my life. I was in the worst possible position that I have ever been in. Toxic relationship and work environment doing a job that I wasn't good at and hated despite it being my childhood dream job, boy I got hit by reality, the height of COVID. I watched this video the day before I committed to the deed, and as I was about to do it his voice rang out in the darkness and the next day I got help, began the process of leaving my job, and broke up with my ex. Thank you professor Peterson!
Have you heard that 4 men for every woman commit suicide, and that women are most affected by this? How terrible for women. Talk about true toxic masculinity...!
@@stevesmith9617 and wat do u think liberals are, they act as if they love u and care abt u just to get ur vote so they can own u and keep u dependant on them and that will keep u voting on them for life . The fact after watching this u think just shows ur another ideologue.
"Depressed people can go places that are so dark you just cannot imagine." Yes. I'm there right now. There are times my mind feels so unhinged with that darkness that that in itself is frightening.
@@amandairvine7998 I am sorry to hear it. I am exactly right there too. I keep thinking if I just wait something out it will get better. I don't know if that will work. My favorite time is going to sleep because it's my only break from fear, which I feel 24/7. I hate waking up early & watching the windows get lighter & lighter. My anxiety starts skyrocketing almost instantly.
Is there anything he could have told you in a letter that would ease the blame you feel? I am considering offing myself any day now but i want to make sure the ones i leave behind dont blame themselves too much. It feels like no matter what i write they will still think "what if i did this or that" after im gone.
Most people hating Peterson hate the image set by whatever bubble they are in. Specific scenes cut, quotes taken out of context and a focus on the things people on that bubble don't agree with. That's the internet
This made me tear up. Because I shouldn't be alive after all I did to not be, and I see myself AND the people who care about me now and I can't believe what I tried...or how many times. What effects that had on not only myself but especially on those who care or cared about me. I'm crying now, while watching this. And recently it's been a downward spiral again, but I'm doing my hardest to stay positive. I do have goals, good people, a good future looking ahead. But sometimes it just feels like fighting against windmills. It took a lot, far too lot to get out of that spiral of self harm, suicide attempts, guilt, shame, anger, trauma...but I'm still here at 28, when I never expected myself to even make it to 18. And I've seen so many people loose this fight along the way. I've been told by an ICU nurse after an out of impulsive suicide attempt that I should "either do it right or don't try it if I can't even do THAT". Honestly, I've never felt more suicidal than when and after she said that. I came to the hospital myself after that meds overdose to get help because I had known I'd made a mistake and while understanding that there are people out there who "aren't responsible for the state their in themselves"... I told her that "just because I can't wrap a bandage around it, doesn't mean it's not there". I cried myself to sleep that night to the constant beeping of machines and monitors. But I know there is a purpose in life and it's different for everyone maybe, but sometimes unfortunately, I can't help to look back and see all the people who could've been saved, but weren't and not because they didn't want to. I am a very lucky person. To have had a psychiatrist who confronted me, but still was like a father figure and kinda similar to you, Jordan. That man saved my life, even though he was in it for a relatively short time. But It's because of THAT that I've found my purpose. And he was the first to see through my masking. I'd always been a very high functioning individual, so I was never diagnosed with what I'm convinced was something on the autism spectrum as a child. I never had to study, I loved it because of the curiosity. I wanted to understand everything. But then life happened and the death of the only person I had in my life who understood me. So I was there at 15, not knowing who I even was myself, taking care of my schizophrenic mother and my then 3 year old brother. And I haven't self harmed in a long time. I hope that when I've completed my medical studies...that I will hopefully meet you in person one day, Dr. Jordan Peterson, because it's people like YOU in that field especially that save lives. I hope you know that. Because those people are rare, but they're also those who make a true difference. Controversity and all that aside: You're an amazing human, exceptional at what you do, so so compassionate and I've come to cherish these gems of people. I'm gonna make my degree in psychiatry and neurology through a special program here in Vienna, if my grades stay as good as they are, which I'll make sure of. And I couldn't imagine anything better than a conversation with Dr. JP someday. Even online. I did your Big 5 test and honestly...the results baffled me. I don't know what the best way of contacting you is right now, but I'd love to hear a personal opinion on my results, because I honestly didn't expect them to be THAT. If anyone ever says that JP is "Just an incel Hero" in my presence... I'm gonna fight them to the ground verbally. As a 28 year old woman who's made it out of so many boxes people wanted to put me in. Because this is heartfelt. This isn't how some pseudointellectual would react, that's how a real intellectual with compassion, emotions and well deserved respect reacts...and I am glad you're fighting the good fight. Because we'd be lost as a society even more than we already are without people like Jordan Peterson. Period.
He was weakly ridiculous, don’t be like that idiot, a man has too be a man and deal with life like a man and not some fragile ass female, not even women should be that weak and fragile. It’s irritating!
I have faith you'll meet him. Thank you for existing in the same world as me, and thank you for all the beautiful ways you'll do good in it. And thank you for all the patients you'll help be better. Love you stranger. God bless.
Anytime I watch a video or read an article that accuses Dr. Peterson of being a bigot or a hate monger, I always think of videos like this. It really goes to show just how far ideologues will go to twist the words of people to fit their agenda. Jordan Peterson is truly a decent man.
to be fair, some things he says are very dangerous like his line about why you would want to have kids "well what else are you going to do" which is dangerous but those are in the minority and I understand what he means is that in your later years you need to have kids, have a endless project or a career you're extremely happy in or else you will be miserable in those years, but it is problomatic.
I do not think it is great to see people in black and white. Personally, there are aspects of Peterson I enjoy, while I do not like other traits of him (of course, I am referring to his public persona).
It's crazy how many people are affected by depression and suicide directly or indirectly, so I hope this reaches people dealing with self-blame and I think this also can be helpful for people dealing with depression.
+Jlord37 I just know that in Germany (and other EU countries) you get "locked" up (with your agreement) in the mental health institute for a few days, if they put you on antidepressants and you have suicidal thoughts. It is acknowledged that suicidal thoughts can increase in the first days when you are on antidepressants and in the days you stop it (under supervision and slowly).
While I am not familiar with that specific book, I am familiar with that topic and the critique. There is no denying that antidepressants can come with devastating side effects (sometimes with none at all) and you can make a good argument that they are overprescribed in many countries and without enough supervision. They CAN really work wonders for people with depression, but obviously they cannot fix terrible life circumstances, but they can jumpstart you fixing your life instead of committing suicide. My personal, unprofessional opinion is that there are many people walking around on meds that need different help instead. I think the statistics of shooters and suicides under anti-depressants is expected, because they are troubled people to begin with. I think the problem is way more complex than only pointing the fingers on the flaws and dangers of antidepressants.
Alright, maybe I should give it a read then. It's not like anyone here is claiming that antidepressants are a quick fix, except some idiots on Reddit maybe. There are obviously lots of things that you can try first and good therapy is your best shot anyways. What the hell do you do when you are doing all of that and still have suicidal thoughts? How important are the side-effects to someone who wants to die? While I have my own reservations about them, I would be very careful to denigrate something that could be the life-line of many people.
I definitely agree that they are overprescribed in many cases,but what people can do is to see for a month if they work and stop them (properly and safely) if they don't work. We are talking about severely depressed people here - the fact that they get prescribed to people who don't need them is not an argument that they don't have their proper use.
I've cleaned my fucking room so low and behold I have a few new books which were growing mold now front and center in my arsenal to bring help to the son-in-laws joining my immediate family, bringing struggles and pitfalls life presents to them via anxiety/depression et al. I have also added some books searched out and found due to hearing you describe your personal dealings with depression, your expressing that you've seen miracles with phychotropic meds etc, etc. Your daughter states she began these types of medications at age twelve and now at age twenty-four is off of them. So to me that means you as her father have invested faith and time, belief and an attitude championing the efficacy of said modalities of treatment, yet you admit and see the pitfalls of same, though you are still largely sold on what I call shit, and you suggest it as a trial method of remedy or relief. I find that a very compelling and embedded reason for you to consistently defend your own history of thinking on this highly controversial subject. So, I am being REACHED by this clip not as a self-blamer or one who has ever experienced depression, but as one who has been touched by your ethic for freedom of speech and a right course of action in the body politic, along with your willingness to disclose that depression hits close to the bone in your family. How would one ever breach the gap of a traditional mode of thought when it's moorings define being a good father and a less that helpful father? I find that reality a chasm which may never be bridged, it is the overwhelming circumstance of fate and life, and I find it tragic beyond belief. You say crazy but close to the bone. I say no crazy and in the fucking bone itself - so we come from perhaps diametrically opposing viewpoints. I ran away from an intolerable home life at a tender age- slept in allies and was homeless in a large metropolitan city until I stumbled past a bar with female dancers and by my wits and some luck was soon working though still under age. Earning a living dancing in bars for a solid five years and being totally estranged from family, while studying classical ballet by day and working in what I considered a low status job, but it was legal and I used my money well. My natural proclivities took me to books, to writing poetry, to nature, and fine arts. At no time did I ever contemplate suicide, At no time did a black cloud ever hang over my head, light was with me pulling me toward itself. I saw friends die from overdoses of drugs. I saw and knew those in deep depression and living as I did for a time on the streets I was surrounded by others who suffered in varying degrees of ass backward decision making and perceptual blind allies. What made me as a teen who had fled a bad home situation weather and navigate finding a strong footing in life as opposed to caving in or being beaten down is to my way of thinking purely physical which ``CAUSED me to see light where others were enveloped in darkness? Hope was indelible upon my mind and spirit PHYSICALLY - and I concluded the absence thereof has roots in the PHYSICAL. I worked through and out of the emotional pain imposed upon me by abuse without sinking into that abyss of depression BECAUSE of an explainable reason! We each perceive through discernment how it is we regard circumstances confronting us. Dismay and contentment repel one another in many instances. If a person is suffering with depression and they are highly empathetic, with average or above intelligence it does not follow that their reasoning is unaffected by said depression. Their reasoning can be the first fucking casualty - and by the grace of God some laboring thusly no matter how many years they have invested is less than productive remedies can discern a different perspective. Stepping outside of a prevailing methodology and thinking outside the proscribed box is not a bad thing, It takes wisdom and a conviction that the truth is the thing, just as Shakespeare pointed out so aptly. "Gentleman, the plays the thing."... - and it may bring light and lift the veil of despair and the unanswerable will become less crazy and more readily tolerated. In that light I implore you to enlarge and incorporate into your milieu that which is worthy of further exploration and consideration. We love you dearly Dr. Peterson, I do not agree with you entirely but I am open to others having whatever beliefs they find best to live with as welcome and no threat to my own way of seeing the world. To say we worry about you is a gross understatement. To say I feel you have been led down the garden path by a certain orthodoxy is putting it mildly. I steep myself with the natural world, and I came into the world wearing indelible rose colored glasses that see the good bacteria balancing out the bad, to see the cup running over with love not despair, my burden is made less by fate, and what some call blissful ignorance is wisdom to me. You piss me off no end and I want to grab you by the shoulders and just shake you until you slap my face and shove me away with a fuck off attitude. You and I have a clash of ideas, of traditional ways of matters to grave to play around with. May God grant you an epipany that will rock your world for the better, and may I experience my own as well. Peace, love, understanding. Here is my contribution to this conversation: May it help at least one individual see that other perspectives on methods and reasoning. I have not personally viewed this clip, but it's title is relevant to your clip. This Harvard trained doctor has a series of presentations, and he speaks my language, not entirely but his core values and ethic is spot on for me. ua-cam.com/video/t7OPWRqjaSQ/v-deo.html I do not know whether he takes an orthomolecular approach, but his track record is such that I trust his presentation is worth viewing. I myself lean toward the physical findings in research which confirm causes, but that is a whole other aspect of this subject, yet I will never underestimate the power of a humanitarian doctor and the love he is able to share with others. Thank you for acknowledging the need for you to continue this conversation, it relates to one of the tragic elements of our time, and to a lesser degree of time immemorial. You've changed my life Dr. Peterson because now I've made up my procrastination of mind and am involved in plans to return to teaching dance and otherwise being fully engaged in the performing and fine arts community within my sphere of influence. For that alone I am forever in your debt. I also follow the work of Dr. Abram Hoffer may he r.i.p. He was also a formally trained board certified MD just like Dr. Peter Breggin, I also follow the work of Atomic physcist Dr. Gary Samuelson, as I feel his breakthroughs provides the Gutenberg of 21st century bio-tech to the world, not embraced at this time as it will eventually. imho. Also your daughter, with her innate spark of genius has mentioned the name of Dr. Mercola who is cutting edge and a godsend to the world of the health model v the disease model of western medicine. Mercola firmly believes one of my go-to doctor's Dr. Zack Bush is Nobel Prize worthy in his discovery of the aspects by which soil, absent any mitochondria mechanisms, communicate with one another, and the whole world of our internal endothelium system is now taking center stage in research which is not compromised by a pharmaceutical bottom line, the elements of our make up exist all around us, we are tied directly to the earth upon which we stand - just as our spirits reach for understanding beyond the stars we behold. Let the sunshine in! Now I will view your clip, but I am protective of my heart and my sanity and will not be bombarding myself with what depression serves up as good discernment, that much I know for sure. Thanks again. If freedom is your watchword, let it be your internal guide always, no matter where it leads you.
Depression is overwhelming. Alienation from my grandchildren. I'm a young grandma of 46. My son and his wife are verbally abusive and weaponized the children. My sadness is great. I can't shake it. I don't believe I'll see them again. I took care of all of them as infants. I'm fighting the urge to leave this life. It's the pain ,sadness. The suffering
My little brother commited suicide yesterday by driving fullspeed into a bus. Its so unreal. So painful. Now reading his "daily texts" and adding up his recent behaviour, I realize he has been screaming for help. Why did you do this!!!! So unnecessary, you'd had a great life ahead of you... Always in my heart
My husband did that but it was driving into a semi. Left me and his 18 mo daughter behind. Everyone blamed me because we had just separated. They treated me like a witch who caused it. 13 years later I still blame myself and I can’t move on with someone else because I’m too scared. He ruined me.
@@Indite_BidenIt’s not your fault. I have been suicidal at points, but doing that, pushing all the guilt onto someone else is something that should never be done. He’s the one who made that decision, not you. You can feel however you may want, but you were not the one at the wheel when that occurred, he was. May he rest in peace, and may you find peace in time.
@@jacobjohnson1130 how sweet of you. To everyone, Have a great day! God Bless! Stay strong, stay safe and take care of yourselves! Wishing everyone the best! Jesus loves you! May the Holy Spirit guide you! 😇 💗🕊 Cheers to a better year buddy! 💞🥂🍻
Jordan Peterson is a man. A strong man. He honors his emotions, and to show that for the world to see without any shame and embracing his emotions and who is, is always a breath of fresh air to see. It's raw, its real. Just when i think i couldn't respect Jordan Peterson even more than i do now, he just shows another side of himself that inspires me lol
His tears are a sign of health that he has these emotions which need to come out. The scary thing would be not to see them, that could mean a decision has been made, the fight is over, the end is imminent. NOOOOOOOOOOO, none of us want to see that. Cry me a fucking river Jordan, just never give up!!!! There is hope out there for you and anyone. I know it with every fiber of my being, and it does NOT reside inside a pharmaceutical bottle either.
I am out . I don't listen to depression speaking and tag it for something else. He needs a dose of Dr. Peter Breggins, who tells it like it is with drugs... What a fucking waste..
My father ended his life on Feb. 26th 2023. He had rheumatoid arthritis and the pain just became unbearable for him. But it was not the pain that killed him, it was the depression that came along with not being able to do anything he loved anymore. I tried everything I could to try and find new things he could do that wouldnt cause him pain, but nothing worked. My father was in a very dark place when he committed the act and I have guilt for not recognizing that and doing something about it.
I'm so sorry for your loss. I cant imagine how hard that must be for you and how heartbreaking your loss is. However you are feeling after this loss and for however long it is valid and it is normal. It seems like you were a very good son and you cared for your father deeply. Like Jordan says in this clip, you are not omnipotent and I can sense based on your comment that you did what you could to be there for him. As told in the video depressed people can get to such dark places and hide it from everyone, it's not your fault that you didn't recognize this. Take care of yourself and take it easy on yourself and talk to people who are able to hold space and listen and be there for you. My thoughts are with you.
I’ve done so many terrible things in my life, recovered from addiction, and made retribution’s for my wrongs, but I still hate myself, and I have people that love me or say they love me but they all hurt me so deeply, and so frequently, that I’ve pushed them all away and isolated myself completely, even my fiancé whom which I live with. I’m losing all purpose to keep going, I made a promise to myself that this relationship was my last, in the sense of I end my life with it. And I see that train approaching, but I can’t step off the tracks.
I don’t want my family to think that way, I’ll write them a letter telling them how much I love them and it’s not their fault, they will know that I was in pain and death is a relief for me
I suffer from extreme depression and suicidal ideation,I'm blessed and grateful to come from a family of unconditional lovers. Like the most amazing people I've ever known and I see how much it's hurts them to see me suffer. it's taken a toll on everyone that's close to me and it causes me great guilt and pain, but every time I think of leaving I watch this video and it brings me back. I've always loved Jordans videos especially those geared on depression and it's helping more then any medicine I've ever taken. I'm so grateful I found this video. Thank you God for this man. You never know how many people's lives you really do effect. Thank you Jordan, truly.
This man is a cultural icon. A lamp post in the mist. He'll go down as one of the greatest thinkers and philosphers of the 21st century, always cutting at the heart of what truly matters. I love this guy.
"A lamp post in the mist" is such a perfect way of describing the hope that these sorts of people provide. Is it your line, or did you hear it somewhere else?
Everything from 3:00 - 3:45 is completely true. I've had depression most of my life and tried to kill myself a number of times. The only thing that ever got me back on track was hope, hope that things would get better. Unfortunately, now I no longer have any hope. I've spent too long trying to make things better, going after what I want, taking time to improve myself and make myself a more attractive and better person. Yet nothing will work. I have work experience in various fields along with certifications, and work as many hours as they'll let me in any job I've had, yet I lost every job I had and now cannot even get an interview. Meanwhile my friends with less experience and certifications have no problem getting newer and better jobs constantly. I've built myself physically into a man who could probably be a physique model, and worked for years to overcome my social anxiety and learned how to talk with people and be very charismatic and energetic. Anyone who meets me typically is drawn to me and comments on my physique or how I remind them of some celebrity. Yet I can't get a date to save my life,. Whether online or in real life, any girl I'm interested in has zero interest in me. Meanwhile guys I know who are nothing special physically, don't have great charisma or energy, aren't particularly funny, they have no problem getting dates, getting laid, getting girlfriends. At this point I'm convinced something or someone is causing all of this, but no one I talk to about it has any idea what. I've tried to years to get any kind of positive results and they've just gotten worse and worse. I don't like being around people anymore because someone is bound to say "OMG man, you're so ______, you must do great at ________!" I smile and say yeah, but the reality is the exact opposite. It's like being told you're a phenomenal basketball player, yet cannot get accepted onto any team. What people like Jordan don't understand, is that for some of us, life is too painful, everyday is just misery and anxiety, and everywhere you look you see examples of other people who have the things you want, while working less hard to get them, and having less skills, yet you can't catch a single break. When your life is like that, and you've tried for years to improve things with no results, eventually you give up trying and once that happens, it's only a matter of time before you hit the early exit button. Please don't judge people who take their own life, it's the hardest thing you can do, and if someone does it, they had a good reason. If you can't understand it, congratulations, you have a good life, enjoy it.
I imagine my son who committed suicide thinking this way, please talked to someone in the Mental Health field, or a friend or family member, someone who loves you, it could make a difference. Believe yourself worthy without all the need to be better, find your strengths.
CantFindAGoodUsername I agree, it’s just so hard to see how reality is a horrible place that shatters dreams and cuts the wings of many people (including myself and other friend i’ve known that struggle with depression). Suicide is the way to stop suffering. I tried to do it once, but before I pulled the trigger of my shotgun I thought about my brother and how my death would also cut his wings. So here I am, still struggling, but seeing my brother in my place is far worse than any other pain.
@@shopekuax2067 I kinda relate, except it's my parents instead of a brother. I've been thinking on a suicide method where I pay for someone to shoot and kill me. That'd break their hearts, but would not make them self-blame. Problem is I'm too fkin weak to even do that
@@GiovanniUnlived You are not weak. It takes pure strenght of will not to give in to suicide. I survived my depression and suicidal thoughts because I am stuborn, selfish and obstinate when I need to be. Weakness is when you eventually take the easy way out. You are here because you are still strong somewhere, somehow, and you have not given in.
@@foulplay99 I don't think so. When you become a parasite to the people around you and can't stop being one; when your friends have moved on with their lives, have kids and shit, and you're still stuck in your past; when you realize how shitty you are and how that must be, then you know life simply isn't for you. You should be brave and accept your fate. Trying to hold on to life so desperately for what - eating, sleeping, toothbrushing, showering; that is, things people already do; seems a sign of weakness to me. If you are a point of redundancy in a universe which is 100% uptime, you're not solving any problem; keeping yourself around is just a big waste of resources: better reuse the matter comprising your body for something else.
I have struggled with depression for so long i have made attempts on my life. It gets to the point where I feel so trapped, i think suicide must be the only way out. But i saw this video, and thought about what my sister would think of herself. I thought about how permanently damaged my mother would be. I even imagined my dad crying at my funeral. Suicide doesn't end the suffering. It passes it on to someone else. Thank you Jordan.
@@D0vin00 and you don't anymore care about what others feel and you've become numb and the only way to stop all this fucking drama is silently dying and be seen as gone missing
He’s weakly ridiculous, don’t be like that idiot, be a man and deal with life like a man and not some fragile ass female, not even women should be that weak and fragile. It’s irritating!
I used to think the same way but I almost don’t even care how it would make my mom feel anymore. She treats me the worst out of all her kids, gets mad at me for my drug habits even tho she started smoking weed with me when I was 12 fucking years old, was always stingy with money for me but gets my brother a stupid fuckin $1500 gaming pc and never makes him do anything around the house. But when I was his age she’d tear me a new one if I forgot to do my chores even for just one day. Shit drives me fucking crazy. I can’t even move out either cuz rent is so dumbass expensive in California right now. The only other thing I can think of to do is just save up a few thousand $ and just get on a greyhound and fucking kick rocks and ghost my family cuz I’m either finna get tf away from this annoying ass stupid family who don’t even act like they want me around, or ima snort as much fentanyl as I can and just unalive myself so I don’t have to feel like such an unwanted piece of trash no more.
Thank you Jordan Peterson, it hasn’t been three months since our son took his own life because of his suffering from Bipolar Depression, and this has been the only video that has given me any relief from my grief. I see your empathy for others and we should all be more empathetic to ourselves because there is no real answer to Suicide from one’s own perspective.
I will endeavour not to blame myself but to understand it was my son’s time and chose to leave. I will remember him as a happy, loving, child and that his life had meaning and purpose.
Hopefully he wasn’t a grown ass man, that’s just ridiculous if so and if so he was weak and ridiculous. My advice to grown me. In particular is too don’t be like that idiot, be a man and deal with life like a man and not some fragile ass female, not even women should be that weak and fragile. It’s irritating!
I was contemplating suicide two months ago after my career was shattered by some misinformation. I felt like everything had ended and I didn’t know how I could ever continue.
The things is death is not scary and I'll never regret it. Being depressed is not a phase it's a marathon There is no hope in this bleak souless world where everyone is just looking out for themselves. I've tried many ways to improve myself but I just hit dead ends. Hopefully I can find some peace while I'm dead
So well said. My only hope is either there is a loving God that will ease my pain in the afterlife, or that there is no afterlife and my death ends my suffering. But with my luck, Hell will be real and I'll go from my earthly hell of depression to eternal hell and torment in the afterlife.
My father was my hero, my idol, my teacher, and the best friend I ever had. He took his life 3 days before Thanksgiving 2020. I struggle everyday with his absence. I dream about his death every night. I have never thought so much about ending my own life. I'm in therapy but I don't know how to make it stop
Forgive yourself for your position in the world, in time you’ll see yourself as someone worth of the world. For now it will be tough, but the light shines through the darkness externally through you. Your love for your father is virtuous and all feelings that come along with that, but your future self with love you now if you can get through this positively. The world is with you, even when it’s in your own mind. Don’t let it get away from you, we love you!
@@GinoACosta friend, please don't do that. Please value yourself and know your worth. If you want an anime that has a good story on this watch Rurouni Kenshin, really helped me to value mine Have a great day! God Bless! Stay strong, stay safe and take care of yourselves! Wishing everyone the best! Jesus loves you! May the Holy Spirit guide you! 😇 💗🕊 Cheers to a better year buddy! 💞🥂🍻
@@GinoACosta hey dude I don’t know you but please don’t do that to yourself, please don’t hurt yourself for someone else’s problems, just hold on, I know how hard it is, I’ve been there it gets tolerable before it gets better, take care of yourself man, and I’m here if you need to talk
Jordan Peterson may be Canadian, but he is a goddamned American national treasure as well! I consider him my Canadian father, as a second to my own. A father I can go to with questions I may hold back for my own.
The last thing a depressed person wants to be told is to talk to a stranger and take pills to get over it. It just makes them feel even worse about themselves
One of my friends described her thoughts of the matter like so "Imagine people reaching out to someone who is drowning and sinking in a pool. They climb and struggle desperately to get to their hands, but each time they get close,, the people pull their hands back a bit. So they keep trying and trying but eventually, they realize that they're doomed, that the people don't actually care, and they allow themselves to sink forever."
They attack and bully him because he tries his hardest to face reality in this life. So difficult for the lazy ppl in this world who want to live in a fantasy land where someone else is always to blame for their own lack of self awareness and and self responsibility. I have been guilty of such..but I see now.I was tempted like many to just check out in such an awful world. Should we let them win?
@@SeaHorseNSparrow you know, theres inflation, and people who were in debt and too lazy to pay it live in heaven while the hard work people got cock blocked by their efforts. We dont know how many hours people should work, sometimes the states is just so corupted that you better of take evrything you can while you still can. Well, i guess prople like that isnt admirable huh?, i guess its just a matter of action. If we can make the state NOT coruptted, i think we can be adapt to work hard, i guess now the state isnt as coruptted as we think it is, so thats a good thing
@@a.bagasm.7253 Hard working people get cockblocked by who? How many hours people should work: Are you taking freelancers and entrepreneurs into consideration? Are you asking how many hours freelancers and sole proprietors should work? Also tell me, if someone works hard for 20 years at McDonald's an retires after 20 years, and another works hard for 10 years on Wall Street and retires, tell me, is this difference a question of laziness or stupidity?
@@SeaHorseNSparrow @Shay XT Inflation, inflation makes people who were in debt be happy that they never see their debt ever again. And no im not asking that, if theyre already that lazy in the first place they cant have any damn company cuz you have to work hard in the first place. *sigh* IQ everybody, no one wants to talk about it, ,do you've taken that into consideration?. How about people with diffrent personalities?, besides only 3/10 of the workers do the half damn work.its not something you can change culturally, even nature has it like(mass in planets, trees hight, vaccum cleaner, few get the most and the most get a few). There are few men who works 80 hours a week, and work makes them feel unhappy. god rested after 7 days of creating the world, stability is not static, its dynamic. Take your time off so that you'd be able to work again for tommorow or next week, next month, a year so that youre not dead. How about in a world where people work every damn second they're exist in this world?, is that what you want?, world full of negative emotion, really?, thats a one damn miserable world. Each people is wired diffrently and thats why we need diversity, individual diversity with diverse personalities not by their race or gender.
@@a.bagasm.7253 Taking time off is for lazy people. If you're not always working, then there is a least some amount of laziness that exists. The most hardworking person is one that dies on the job, even if it is entirely to the benefit of someone else. This is society.
In my experience the only thing that really can save someone from the abyss is love. Depression is just an expression of lack of self love. Someone has horrible thoughts about themselves, consequentially their emotions go to hell and as a result of that their behavior becomes self-sabotaging and also toxic for others which in turn makes their thoughts about themselves even worse and the vicious cycle continues. So yeah, if you have someone arround who’s depressed, just give them a hug, validate their feelings, show them that you care and that they matter. It’s not about giving good advice or showing interest. It’s about genuine compassion. It sounds corny but in my experience it’s that simple; love heals.
Wish it was that simple. My dad had everything he needed to be happy, more love in his life than 99% of people. Grandkids, 7 children, a passionately loving wife of 27 years who did everything she could to help his self love. It comes from somewhere far deeper than you'd think.
@@StopSeekingValidation So I'm going through what I'm going through because the devil doesn't exist? The fuck does that even mean? You're one stupid cunt aren't you 🤣
My gf committed suicide. She shot herself in the head with my pistol. 2 and a half years ago. I’m still struggling to cope with it. I’ve been abusing alcohol and know I need to change. 😔
Jordan, you have captured this so accurately. I am in that space and it's hard. I'm fighting it but it's terrible. I've made so many mistakes over many years and its all come together in a massive crash. I've suffered with depression for a long time but now is the worst it's ever been because I can see all the mistakes that have led to this point. I'm on medication, and seeing a counselor but it's still not getting any better. But I did want to say how accurate you described this,
Those were exactly my thoughts several years ago when I was suicidal. I thought of myself as just taking up space in the world, that the world would be a better place if I didn't exist. My forecast of my life was just darkness and hopelessness. Looking back 10 years hence, I'm glad my attempts at suicide didn't succeed. I'm glad that I'm still here, and for the people whose lives i could touch.
@@eski037 I went to a psychologist at that time, and after two or three sessions of me sharing what was on my mind, she asked me, who is the most important person to you in the world? I said it was my brother. Then she asked, what would happen to them if i took my life? That made me hold on, even if only for their sake. And eventually, things did change, and life did become better.
Im not surprised. Have you heard him talk about the literal hundreds of people who line up after his talks? If was confronted with that as often as he is id cry allot too.
Yeah but I'm afraid that people start to think these are crocodile tears in some way. I mean if he broke down like that in public, his credibility would be ruined toward leftists...
My feeling exactly, I believe it is physical with a basis that can be identified and remedied. He does not apparently and that is the ultimate tragic side to this.
+Klymahnn. He broke down and cried during a radio interview (5 live i think) when talking about young men. Many on the left already hate Peterson and think hes some kind of far right ideologue, if you want proof just look at comments on TYT about him.
Klymahnn: Never thought his tears were crocodile. He is in public so to speak on you tube, not as you say and I get your meaning, but it would be the achilles heel the left is looking for and they are rotten enough to pounce on your crocodile tear outcry. Dr. Peterson may hate my saying so, but Big Ass Pharma and all the masking drugs he has turned to and raves about are not his friend, they are his worst fucking enemy. He sees no other way out except the extremes he is currently experimenting with in diet. He seems to proud somehow, yet he speaks of humility as a virtue worth having. Why he does not embrace functional medicine and seek out their counsel is beyond my comprehension? Integrative, alternative , functional, medical modalities has his answer - he needs to go to them and work with them. We have a finite number of nutritional needs to keep us in balance, we have a gazillion brain cells in our intestines, the communication going on in the body is under the microscope of dedicated and brilliant researchers who are not funded by big pharma and are looking for the truth in discovery rather than the presuppositions imposed upon them by a private for profit industry ... Help is alive and functioning, but if depression speaks it is not worth the time or the trouble, then depression wins. Depression breeds poor decision making. This is the sad part about it all.
Much love to you Jordan. Thank you for helping so many people. I promise that no matter what happens i will not commit suicide and also find a meaning to my life.
My friend died today and I come to this video to set me on the right path. I realise how much people will suffer with my death even if it is one person… As much as I hate this world and my suffering will continue infinitely I will never put that on someone else.. I hate friend for doing this to me but I will always love him for what I had when he was still around. I love you Matt
I've been struggling for such a long time and it seems that its inevitable for me, but this is exactly what I'm worried about when it comes to my family
Whe I see my brother like this I get so hateful and full of cringe we both can't contemplate seeing each other like this far worse than being like this ourselves
I appreciate your raw honesty in expressing your feelings in this video, and I appreciate you also talking about self-blame. There has been lots of depression and suicides in my family - an abnormally high level of suicide. Thank you for talking about this subject.
My niece shot herself in the heart while at her boyfriends grave site. My other niece hung herself from a rafter in her family barn while the family was gone away, she was being faced with drug dealers driving up from another state to make her pay for flushing down their profits which had been placed in the trunk of her car. I have another niece hooked on prescription drugs, by doctors who could care less and write endless prescriptions for addicting deadly drugs many times a day for days on end. I am intimately familiar with those who suffer depression, anxiety, mental disarray, but I do not follow the pharmaceutical line and I do not follow those MD's who keep their prescription pads on continual order because they use them so frequently as to be in my way of thinking criminally insane. Expressing feelings is wonderful, we all need to embrace that but propagating a methodology with the courts alone prove is highly problematic is a whole other ball game, and I oppose supporting that kind of thinking - and I consider it judgment which has gone awry.
Sarah Eichelberger While I wholeheartedly endorse your right to disavow pharmaceuticals, I really get it. But the way Peterson put it is so true "untreated depression causes death" it damn well feels like it. Antidepressants and single mothers are highly correlated with school shooters, so I'm healthily suspicious of big pharma. But a little more stringent diagnostic guidelines and the ability to not have the diagnosis on your permanent record if you are treated, would sort quite a lot of the issues we have currently.
Sarah Eichelberger the other question is one of liberty. Do you have the right to be a drug addict and do I have the right to be your dealer? Anyways good luck with everything. I'm not here to fight, just throwing another opinion out there.
Nathan Bear: Of course the given he expressed is true. I come from a different school of thought than Dr. Peterson. I am also acutely aware how taking anti-depressants affect the mind and I know when I hear depression itself doing the speaking. Tragic because drugs kill clarity of thought but that is not the only murders they commit within the synapses and components of the central nervous system. I see suicide for what it is , I see murder on a microscopic scale for what it is. Dr. Peterson does not see the psychiatric establishment in this light.. I see Dr. Peterson as a captured pawn by the smoke and mirrors; the false euphoria these drugs present to a patient is no benefit to anyone. Historically long before Hitler came to power in Germany the facts bear out that the established psychiatric profession was murdering mentally ill people by the thousands in specially made hospitals and it is within this profession where a lethal edge eugenic tool for post modern neo-marxist ideology is alive and well, a sociopathic brother tool to the SJW movement. Just as it was in those prelude extermination psychiatric wards (pre-dating) the arrival of Adolph Hitler. Dr. Peter Breggin's - a Jewish psychiatrist alludes to these facts in this talk: And lest we forget during Operation Paper Clip some 300 high ranking Nazi scientists were shepherded into the U.S.A. I do not buy the official CIA line put out to the public that this was carried out because these Nazi's would help fight the cold war. I have no doubt many of these Nazi doctors/scientists were into psychiatric matters. ua-cam.com/video/Sr7FnEu0G1w/v-deo.html
They’re weak and ridiculous, don’t be like those idiots, get over the bs and deal with life. People shouldn’t be that weak and fragile. It’s irritating!
I'm revisiting this video after the passing of my mum this year, and I just needed to hear it again. Please try to do everything you possibly can to help someone you love.
I have BPD and PTSD and the past month has been hell, what you said about the darkness. 6 years of drug abuse. Kicked that first shot. But the hopeless worthless feeling lingers and is prominent. Thank you Mr. Peterson. I can honestly say I never gave you a shot. But I found this and I'm thankful.
I’ll be going out with a bang for sure. Pretty much done with life, being blamed For everything, being fired for no cause, no family, no friends nothing. Once my dog goes I’m out. But thank you Jordan Peterson for giving me these last few years. I do appreciate it. Cheers 🍻
@@BTBVOY. I contacted a couple of therapists but they are way too expensive, about 90 euros for each session. In addition, they are not available late in the evening or in the weekend, it means I would have to get a leave from the work each time. That's not viable. PS: I'm Italian
Yeah for real that’s what I was thinking. Nobody cares or thinks about it until ur already dead and gone so idk why they act like they care so much when we’re dead when they didn’t even give a fuck how we were doing when we were alive
@@sausage5033 Yep. Life is just one big paradoxical fart box. Like Deadpool said, "life is one big train wreck, with only brief commercial like periods of happiness".
As a person that is deep into depression and I can't look to my family for help because for me it looks like weakness to do so but my alcoholism and depression is so far gone I revert back to this clip it makes me feel guilty and shameful for how I'm feeling. Because suicide seems like a easy option which leaves one's family devastated and so how do you move forward with feeling the way that I do while not trying to hurt your family I struggle with that every single day but no one cares
Suicide becomes a solution. Suicide becomes Almost an uplifting thought in times of despair because the solution of Suicide gives hope that there is a way out. Been there, haven’t done that or I wouldn’t be typing these words.
Suicide felt like my last form of control when I wanted to do it. I could choose the when, where and how to the most important moment of my life when I chose when where and how to end it all. I decided against it for the sake of my parents and I went on anti-depressants. I'm still here 8 yars later, but it still cuts deep to think about it.
I guess there's often (not always) an element of revenge in suicide, in that you derive at least some satisfaction from the fantasy of the people around you finally understanding how much you suffered; the guilt and grief they feel is not all that different from what you carried around yourself and which alienated you so far as to wanting to end your life.
not really. I would say 99% of people who commit suicide struggle with the thought that their act will make people suffer. I have never heard of anyone who committed suicide out of spite
Today I feel weak. Like I'm not enough in my own skin and I never will be. I'm 27 and constantly wishing I could accept myself for who I am. I hope I can defeat or even suppress the enemy within. I will not give up. And I'm proud of that! And I hope you don't too. Love you all. Let's make 2023 our year
I cannot express properly my immense respect for this most decent, kind and brilliant man. Thank you, Dr. Peterson. You are an inspiration and unbelievably well readand thoughtful.
Hi, I've been watching your video clips for months now and I find them very helpful. I love your idea about how people would watch short videos instead of hours long original videos, and in that way more people will be able to have chance to change their lives. And, so I'm very thankful for your work. I hope you keep it up.
How can anyone in their right mind think that Jordan Peterson is a bad man? His heart is so full of love it oozes out of him uncontrollably sometimes. Sure, he can get riled up when discussing certain topics such as gender dynamics and socialism, but he has a damn good reason for that because almost nobody is talking about this stuff. Bless your heart, Jordan.
The way you describe the symptoms of depression are so spot on. I’m a 42 year old father of two boys and i struggle every day with however my presens is positive or negative.
My great friend/coach/mentor ended his life yesterday. Thank you for sharing this video. Watching this has given me some comfort on one of the most difficult days of my life.
Watching this then reading the comments and seeing that one single person like Dr Peterson affects so many lives and in fact prevented the death of many is so touching to me. That by itself shows me that no life is ever a waste, you don’t know your effect on people and most of the time we’re not really aware of our impact on others..
This used to be a very, very tough video for me to watch when it came out 4 years ago. It used to really rattle me when I'd hear him talk about how some people are beyond saving. It made me think that God forbid I ever got even close to that dark place, what hope is there if some people are beyond saving? But it took me a good while to come to grips with this reality that depression can lead people down these irreversible paths, and that some can be saved and some cannot. I had to learn to accept that. But I never wavered on hope as a concept and life philosophy.
The thing about depression is it’s so hard to escape. It’s like being in a dark room and searching for a way out.That’s why people get hopeless bc they don’t know if they can find a way out and they are completely overwhelmed by despair and confusion.
Hope everybody is doing well in this comment section,depression is one of the worst sickness and every one should be helped about it. People are treating it like it will disappear itself without doing anything and that’s wrong.
Yeah, I've had it once, life seemed so unmanageable and intolerable that there was only one thought all the time, which one - is obvious. Hope you are doing fine too, man!
Ozolinsh V. Completely understand what you’ve been through,I actually tried to kill myself 3 times but I’m all fine and wiser now and that’s the best thing about it.
putting a mask over a cancer may cover it up, if the mask is rigged right it might even make the person feel free of the cancer, but it is not helpful really, not when you see it as a mask and not a remedy.
Ozolinsh V. Hmm.. my mom,friends and myself. My mom helped me at a time when it was the most crucial,even tho she wasn’t there for me before,she came to help me at the exact moment when I needed her,i intentionally hugged her for the first time (i was 17 years old) and my friends helped me a lot,trying to make everything funny and helping me out. I think the most important thing to do is to accept help and not take everything upon yourself.
I have recently found this remarkable man and have been intently listening to his lectures. He has been answering questions for me that for years I found no relief. To see him cry but continue on shows me his dedication to help his fellow man by gifting valuable information despite his pain he reaches outside himself, outside of his own personal pain and continues to try to heal others. A truly unselfish, loving act in which causes me to respect him even more. My daughter took her life a few years ago. She was so sweet and beautiful and only 29. It's painful to talk about or to listen to counsel for healing but honestly, although my heart hurts for his pain as well, I would not even listen to anyone on how to heal if they haven't been through something similar. Sadly the only real understanding of the depth of pain is someone who has lived through that. The price is too high for this club and I wish it on no one. There's no way to describe it and only someone who has experienced it,I my opinion, has the right to say anything. Thank you Mr.Peterson for your
I first heard this clip on a motivational video and though maybe it had been edited down for the best bits. I was surprised to find it’s word for word! The man is a phenomenal thinker & speaker
I absolutely love how Jordan Peterson truly expresses himself. The pain he felt with this question makes him so real, so loveable. Most intellects lack this empathy. I am sure their lives are easier than his. May God bless him and balance those thoughrs that bring his mind this great pain.
Jordan, my wife and I love you sir . Thank you for having a voice . You have helped me and my wife and many other people in this world . It's like you're an angel. God bless
I lost my sister to fentanyl 3 years ago. It didn't take very long for the grief, the depression, self blame and suicidal thoughts to wrap their chains around me. Even to this day I still beat myself up over it. And sadly no matter how much my family and my counselor tells me it wasn't my fault, I will always feel like it is, until the day that I finally decide to end it all.
I lost a friend once to what I assume was depression. Their death was too vague for my understanding at the time and I never felt comfortable asking their family members for more details. But I felt incredible guilt, not cause I could have prevented their death, but because I knew I couldn’t be held responsible. It’s strange but when I first heard of their death, I really wanted to be blamed, because it would have meant there was a version of events in which I could still be able to hug them and say, yes we got through it. I have no idea what merit my ideas, thoughts or feelings have on this comment section. I just hate the fact there is no reality which I could have done more
This video helped me more than you'll ever know, truly. It's been almost 20yrs since my brother's suicide, and 18 for my mom. I can still see it like it just happened., I cry allot. I don't talk to my family. They drink allot. And they blame me. I was last ones to see them. And if I hadn't taken my son to the park. I wouldn't of missed me mom's phone call. It wouldn't of mattered honestly. She woulda done it with me on the phone. Anyways they don't know or realize I blame me too. I take the blame to spare them from it. It's such a heavy burdin and a bs one.my mom had gone completely crazy in the last few years she was around. My family didn't live it . I went through horrible things due to it. But I loved my mom so much. And just mopped up after her . I instantly felt better the way you put it. I cried like a big ole baby, snot and all lol jk. Thank you I really mean it
I already loved Jordan Peterson, but it seems like every video I watch of his makes me love him that much more. As someone who suffers from major depressive disorder, seeing him so genuinely concerned with such things gives me hope.
I have been suffering with deep depression for the majority of my life. I keep trying to get help but nothing really helps. I am constantly beating myself up and not feeling worthy. The pressure in my chest and constant heart dropping feelings are hard to bear. I have never not felt alone.
Carlospicywiener I am not going to live a life of drugs and denial. If being a pathetic low life in general works for you, that's great!.. you did make me feel a little better. At least I am not like you
Alex Zander-I can relate to your experience and I think it's something that can be managed but not sure if there is a cure as such. I try to counteract the negative self-talk and remind myself of the good things about me.
May Knott Thanks for your input. I really appreciate it. In the past I would've never put out something so vulnerable about myself. It was always my dark secret. I've been going to therapy and working hard to change my mind set. I have 3 kids and a wonderful wife. I can't give up.
How you doing AL? I recently started JP's self authoring program and I have already found it help more than anything else I have ever done to try to fix my inner challenges.
I don’t always agree with JP, but this was so heartfelt from such a great intellectual. Depression is multifactorial, it diminishes ones agency and autonomy. My prayers and best wishes to anyone going through any psychological problems, please speak to someone. 🙏👍
Wow! That was an incredibly heartfelt response to this woman's question as well as tremendous compassion and understanding of those who suffer from depression. The loss to this couple must be devastating beyond words and Jordan Petersen showed tremendous compassion. Truly moving.
It’s strangely comforting to see him be vulnerable for once. It reminds me that, even though I don’t agree with everything he preaches, is he is still human.
The strange thing about suicide is that it actually feels good to fantasize about it. As a depressed person, it's an uplifting feeling knowing that I can end all the madness at any time I want. Knowing that that I have every justification in the world to end my life, yet I don't. That is power.
Hmm
I really hope you can get professional help bro
@@toxic_narcissist Yeah he probably does. But he's right. I feel the same too. The thought of suicide is actually sort of motivating in a way. You get braver to do what you wanted to do in life, because if things went south you always have suicide by your side. What's more there to lose
I agree. Experiencing it. Crazy years after one bring it to words
I hold on to this
He’s such a good person and therapist. I wish people would stop trying to cancel him.
He really does seem like a genuine person . The world needs more of them.
@@RagingCajun985 totally agree. I’ve had my share of therapists and I can safely say he speaks like one who cares.
@@boligenic8118I've been following him for years. I haven't seen a huge change.
I just discoverd him this video he looks like he is depressed him self tbh
I'm just saying, but we up here in Canada (the country that Jordan is from) don't trust him. It's just Americans on UA-cam who do.
This is like, the 5th video that I've seen him fake cry in. I believe that the last thing that I saw him "cry" over was Ellen/Elliot Page. I also saw him cry over Olivia Wilde (Thirteen from House).
Same with other narcissists like Justin Trudeau - we don't like him, either." I also once saw him cry over a question that Joe Rogan asked him (I believe that it was about climate change).
I've also seen him cry over Jesus. He also cried when he was told that the "Don't Worry Darling" villain was modeled after him.
There are compilation videos on UA-cam of him "crying" over several different topics, and there are lists on Reddit of topics that he's cried over.
If I fall to suicide, i would say that dr. Peterson was the closest to actually be able to help me. I thank you dr.
I used to think suicide was a selfish thing, I remember I had arguments with my friend about it and I always said it was such a selfish thing. Then my dad killed himself and I thought about the analogy of a burning house, and I understood, but then, in my grief, I began to blame him again. Why would he leave me? I don't deserve that, I thought. But now, years later, I understand his reasons. I still hate him for doing it, but I also understand. In his head, he didn't have any other option. I love you dad
Cognitive dissonance sucks, my condolences to your dad. In case you haven't heard this I imagine he would've wanted you to remember the good times too
You did not deserve that.
Your dad killing himself wasn't anything to do with wanting to leave you or not caring.
I have mental illness and suicide often in my thoughts but I love my son more than anything yet I could kill myself. It sounds like a paradox but if it was a physical illness and I was in pain constantly confined to a bed and not able to function then I think people could understand why I would want the life machine turned off and they would likely want it turned off for me, with some mental health it's like that but not so obvious much harder to relate too and understand.
It's not so easy to understand for me either or anyone with it, so I keep fighting but I do often refer to my suicide plan for comfort makes me feel better that I could stop the pain, ask anyone who has been ill and really close to death, suffering, they will tell you they don't fear death in that moment and all they want is death.
I'm sorry you lost your dad.
your Dad seen the world for what a hell hole it really is.......however he should of never reproduced. I never reproduced because this world is a hell scape "God" is mean cruel he designed a world were a baby fawn deer is eaten alive by a Mountain Lion do I blame the Mountain Lion NO it has to eat or it will starve to death but think of the living thing that the Mountain Lion is eating how painful and how horrific of a death that is. I eat beef and I am ashamed for that Cattle ( they never had a choice to be born a cow) are harvested for human consumption ( I also make my living raising cattle) I woke up the other week and realized how sick and cruel this world is that I play "God" with other living beings in order to survive so what does that say about "God"?
If your dad had not followed through, as a person who is very blessed to have survived, myself. The pain was the reason, he is sorry he left you and didn't appreciate the truth of the impact it made on you not being here. He would never want you to feel hate in your heart. The pain you suffer through important moments and missing him, is understandable. Please forgive him for yourself. If he could see your suffering now his decision would have been different. The pain blinded him. I am personally sorry this happened to you. I pray that you are blessed and comforted. Please allow my apology to be sufficient, I too was 3 times ignorant, and blinded by pain. It is a dark cloud nearly impossible to see through. You deserved him to be here. He accepts your anger, and let me tell you he is angry at himself as well. I know at times I still am with myself.
I listened to this live. He didn't really stop crying until the end of the stream. I don't blame him.
Where does he live stream?
Euron Kajtazi ua-cam.com/users/JordanPetersonVideos. His channel is Jordan B Peterson
His Chanel. Jordan B Peterson. Theres a link to the stream in the video description.
Link is in the description (first line), it leads to the recording of the livestream on his channel.
+Jaybee. That makes no sense at all. At least make your stupid racist comments make a little sense.
Its breaks my heart when i see grown man (and idol to many people) crying. But that just shows his compassionate side, he is a good man.
compassionate*
A great man... Having such a positive impact on the world.
Boxjuice thanks, I'm not a native speaker
Boxjuice Oh, the irony...
Батрић Гарић a wonderful, sensitive human being who helps shine a light on so many corners of the human heart and soul... Long may he do so. I applaud his huge heart, sensitivity, and incredible intelligence.
I'm 21 and a couple weeks ago I found my father dead in my office taking his life. I can't help but blame myself. This really helps, thank you
My god I am truly sorry to hear that brother🙏🏽❤️please keep your head up and know that your father’s at peace now
I just lost my Dad this week. It’s fucking horrendous man, I just can’t believe it. Every single emotion at the same time
My condolences to your family.
I’m sorry to hear that. December 2021 my brother committed suicide. It was a week before Christmas. I hadn’t seen him in two years at the time and the guilt is sometimes a lot. You’re not alone in your pain.
This really reminded me of my dads suicide. 14 years ago he took his life I removed the rope from the rafter moved the chair away so family didn’t see that.
It’s never left but it gets easier. The best way to see it after many years of depression and suicidal thoughts that preceded his death is that you know whatever was going through his mind or how dark things were for him is that he doesn’t have that pain and that’s a big big thing to see but very hard until you’ve walked that line.
This man literally saved my life. I was in the worst possible position that I have ever been in. Toxic relationship and work environment doing a job that I wasn't good at and hated despite it being my childhood dream job, boy I got hit by reality, the height of COVID. I watched this video the day before I committed to the deed, and as I was about to do it his voice rang out in the darkness and the next day I got help, began the process of leaving my job, and broke up with my ex. Thank you professor Peterson!
That’s amazing! How are things now?
@@latenitetubing mmuch much much better thank you for asking
Whoa... I hope things are even better now. God bless you, man.
Thank you my friend. I am doing okay it’s been a rough month but I’m doing good. Just lots of stuff happening.
Id rather have a toxic relationship than none ever at all lol
So this is the toxic masculinity I've been hearing so much about...
Pretty sure this is the exact opposite of toxic masculinity.
@@ferhog7705 yup, yup.
@Teleke Nietzche ??
how are people not getting the sarcasm in this, honestly powerful video
Have you heard that 4 men for every woman commit suicide, and that women are most affected by this? How terrible for women. Talk about true toxic masculinity...!
No charlatan, no cynical salesman, would show this kind of heart. This is what most of the critics miss with Jordan. They miss his humanity.
Astral Frost Well said.
He is a performance artist
Period. Don't fall for this crap. No-one gives a crap for depressed people.
@@stevesmith9617 you must be depressed. That attitude is not gunna help you out of it and I’m speaking from experience
@@stevesmith9617 and wat do u think liberals are, they act as if they love u and care abt u just to get ur vote so they can own u and keep u dependant on them and that will keep u voting on them for life . The fact after watching this u think just shows ur another ideologue.
I'm sorry u trust a person that study's how people think, and then talks about Jesus.
"Depressed people can go places that are so dark you just cannot imagine." Yes. I'm there right now. There are times my mind feels so unhinged with that darkness that that in itself is frightening.
I am so desperate right now. I just don’t ‘fit in’ in life. Can’t explain it. I am broken
@@Jupiter1423 Yes. Just "think happy thoughts," right?? This is why I never say what's on my mind either.
@@amandairvine7998 I am sorry to hear it. I am exactly right there too. I keep thinking if I just wait something out it will get better. I don't know if that will work. My favorite time is going to sleep because it's my only break from fear, which I feel 24/7. I hate waking up early & watching the windows get lighter & lighter. My anxiety starts skyrocketing almost instantly.
@@thomasdaka9920 I hear you.
@@amandairvine7998 me too. Its unbearable, sometimes I wish I didnt exist anymore. But lets stay strong, someday we’ll get through this
This hits hard. I had a friend die by suicide 24.years ago. I still struggle with the."what more could I have done?" Rest well Adam.
:( ❤
Yes,to me it's my father.
Rest easy Adam ❤
Is there anything he could have told you in a letter that would ease the blame you feel? I am considering offing myself any day now but i want to make sure the ones i leave behind dont blame themselves too much. It feels like no matter what i write they will still think "what if i did this or that" after im gone.
Honestly sometimes there’s nothing you can do. Sometimes the depression is so painful and dark that nothing anyone can say will make them feel better.
how can u hate such a good man
Kevins Schumaker they hate themselves. :(
The people who are resentful against others are often resentful against themselves.
who hates any man, how about hating big ass pharma who is run by people we can barely class as human?
Most people hating Peterson hate the image set by whatever bubble they are in. Specific scenes cut, quotes taken out of context and a focus on the things people on that bubble don't agree with. That's the internet
@@Evi3142 If he is cult leader than i prefer this cult over some wacko who thinks he is Jesus.
This man really cares for the world man...
sometimes there is nothing to do ... but to go
This made me tear up. Because I shouldn't be alive after all I did to not be, and I see myself AND the people who care about me now and I can't believe what I tried...or how many times. What effects that had on not only myself but especially on those who care or cared about me. I'm crying now, while watching this. And recently it's been a downward spiral again, but I'm doing my hardest to stay positive. I do have goals, good people, a good future looking ahead. But sometimes it just feels like fighting against windmills. It took a lot, far too lot to get out of that spiral of self harm, suicide attempts, guilt, shame, anger, trauma...but I'm still here at 28, when I never expected myself to even make it to 18. And I've seen so many people loose this fight along the way. I've been told by an ICU nurse after an out of impulsive suicide attempt that I should "either do it right or don't try it if I can't even do THAT".
Honestly, I've never felt more suicidal than when and after she said that. I came to the hospital myself after that meds overdose to get help because I had known I'd made a mistake and while understanding that there are people out there who "aren't responsible for the state their in themselves"... I told her that "just because I can't wrap a bandage around it, doesn't mean it's not there". I cried myself to sleep that night to the constant beeping of machines and monitors. But I know there is a purpose in life and it's different for everyone maybe, but sometimes unfortunately, I can't help to look back and see all the people who could've been saved, but weren't and not because they didn't want to. I am a very lucky person. To have had a psychiatrist who confronted me, but still was like a father figure and kinda similar to you, Jordan. That man saved my life, even though he was in it for a relatively short time. But It's because of THAT that I've found my purpose. And he was the first to see through my masking. I'd always been a very high functioning individual, so I was never diagnosed with what I'm convinced was something on the autism spectrum as a child. I never had to study, I loved it because of the curiosity. I wanted to understand everything. But then life happened and the death of the only person I had in my life who understood me. So I was there at 15, not knowing who I even was myself, taking care of my schizophrenic mother and my then 3 year old brother. And I haven't self harmed in a long time. I hope that when I've completed my medical studies...that I will hopefully meet you in person one day, Dr. Jordan Peterson, because it's people like YOU in that field especially that save lives. I hope you know that. Because those people are rare, but they're also those who make a true difference. Controversity and all that aside: You're an amazing human, exceptional at what you do, so so compassionate and I've come to cherish these gems of people. I'm gonna make my degree in psychiatry and neurology through a special program here in Vienna, if my grades stay as good as they are, which I'll make sure of. And I couldn't imagine anything better than a conversation with Dr. JP someday. Even online. I did your Big 5 test and honestly...the results baffled me. I don't know what the best way of contacting you is right now, but I'd love to hear a personal opinion on my results, because I honestly didn't expect them to be THAT. If anyone ever says that JP is "Just an incel Hero" in my presence... I'm gonna fight them to the ground verbally. As a 28 year old woman who's made it out of so many boxes people wanted to put me in. Because this is heartfelt. This isn't how some pseudointellectual would react, that's how a real intellectual with compassion, emotions and well deserved respect reacts...and I am glad you're fighting the good fight. Because we'd be lost as a society even more than we already are without people like Jordan Peterson. Period.
Thank you , I'm holding on
He was weakly ridiculous, don’t be like that idiot, a man has too be a man and deal with life like a man and not some fragile ass female, not even women should be that weak and fragile. It’s irritating!
I have faith you'll meet him. Thank you for existing in the same world as me, and thank you for all the beautiful ways you'll do good in it. And thank you for all the patients you'll help be better. Love you stranger. God bless.
Anytime I watch a video or read an article that accuses Dr. Peterson of being a bigot or a hate monger, I always think of videos like this. It really goes to show just how far ideologues will go to twist the words of people to fit their agenda. Jordan Peterson is truly a decent man.
Who ever thinks this man is a bigot is undeniably ignorant.
People say funny shit when they're exposed by the truth
He is a fake Pos that wants worship and dollers. He gets paid to say whatever u want to hear. He is a paid performance artist. Period
to be fair, some things he says are very dangerous like his line about why you would want to have kids "well what else are you going to do" which is dangerous but those are in the minority and I understand what he means is that in your later years you need to have kids, have a endless project or a career you're extremely happy in or else you will be miserable in those years, but it is problomatic.
I do not think it is great to see people in black and white.
Personally, there are aspects of Peterson I enjoy, while I do not like other traits of him (of course, I am referring to his public persona).
It's crazy how many people are affected by depression and suicide directly or indirectly, so I hope this
reaches people dealing with self-blame and I think this also can be helpful for people dealing with depression.
+Jlord37 I just know that in Germany (and other EU countries) you get "locked" up (with your agreement) in the mental health institute for a few days, if they put you on antidepressants and you have suicidal thoughts. It is acknowledged that suicidal thoughts can increase in the first days when you are on antidepressants and in the days you stop it (under supervision and slowly).
While I am not familiar with that specific book, I am familiar with that topic and the critique. There is no denying that antidepressants can come with devastating side effects (sometimes with none at all) and you can make a good argument that they are overprescribed in many countries and without enough supervision. They CAN really work wonders for people with depression, but obviously they cannot fix terrible life circumstances, but they can jumpstart you fixing your life instead of committing suicide. My personal, unprofessional opinion is that there are many people walking around on meds that need different help instead. I think the statistics of shooters and suicides under anti-depressants is expected, because they are troubled people to begin with. I think the problem is way more complex than only pointing the fingers on the flaws and dangers of antidepressants.
Alright, maybe I should give it a read then. It's not like anyone here is claiming that antidepressants are a quick fix, except some idiots on Reddit maybe. There are obviously lots of things that you can try first and good therapy is your best shot anyways. What the hell do you do when you are doing all of that and still have suicidal thoughts? How important are the side-effects to someone who wants to die? While I have my own reservations about them, I would be very careful to denigrate something that could be the life-line of many people.
I definitely agree that they are overprescribed in many cases,but what people can do is to see for a month if they work and stop them (properly and safely) if they don't work. We are talking about severely depressed people here - the fact that they get prescribed to people who don't need them is not an argument that they don't have their proper use.
I've cleaned my fucking room so low and behold I have a few new books which were growing mold now front and center in my arsenal to bring help to the son-in-laws joining my immediate family, bringing struggles and pitfalls life presents to them via anxiety/depression et al. I have also added some books searched out and found due to hearing you describe your personal dealings with depression, your expressing that you've seen miracles with phychotropic meds etc, etc. Your daughter states she began these types of medications at age twelve and now at age twenty-four is off of them. So to me that means you as her father have invested faith and time, belief and an attitude championing the efficacy of said modalities of treatment, yet you admit and see the pitfalls of same, though you are still largely sold on what I call shit, and you suggest it as a trial method of remedy or relief. I find that a very compelling and embedded reason for you to consistently defend your own history of thinking on this highly controversial subject. So, I am being REACHED by this clip not as a self-blamer or one who has ever experienced depression, but as one who has been touched by your ethic for freedom of speech and a right course of action in the body politic, along with your willingness to disclose that depression hits close to the bone in your family. How would one ever breach the gap of a traditional mode of thought when it's moorings define being a good father and a less that helpful father? I find that reality a chasm which may never be bridged, it is the overwhelming circumstance of fate and life, and I find it tragic beyond belief. You say crazy but close to the bone. I say no crazy and in the fucking bone itself - so we come from perhaps diametrically opposing viewpoints. I ran away from an intolerable home life at a tender age- slept in allies and was homeless in a large metropolitan city until I stumbled past a bar with female dancers and by my wits and some luck was soon working though still under age. Earning a living dancing in bars for a solid five years and being totally estranged from family, while studying classical ballet by day and working in what I considered a low status job, but it was legal and I used my money well. My natural proclivities took me to books, to writing poetry, to nature, and fine arts. At no time did I ever contemplate suicide, At no time did a black cloud ever hang over my head, light was with me pulling me toward itself. I saw friends die from overdoses of drugs. I saw and knew those in deep depression and living as I did for a time on the streets I was surrounded by others who suffered in varying degrees of ass backward decision making and perceptual blind allies. What made me as a teen who had fled a bad home situation weather and navigate finding a strong footing in life as opposed to caving in or being beaten down is to my way of thinking purely physical which ``CAUSED me to see light where others were enveloped in darkness? Hope was indelible upon my mind and spirit PHYSICALLY - and I concluded the absence thereof has roots in the PHYSICAL. I worked through and out of the emotional pain imposed upon me by abuse without sinking into that abyss of depression BECAUSE of an explainable reason! We each perceive through discernment how it is we regard circumstances confronting us. Dismay and contentment repel one another in many instances. If a person is suffering with depression and they are highly empathetic, with average or above intelligence it does not follow that their reasoning is unaffected by said depression. Their reasoning can be the first fucking casualty - and by the grace of God some laboring thusly no matter how many years they have invested is less than productive remedies can discern a different perspective. Stepping outside of a prevailing methodology and thinking outside the proscribed box is not a bad thing, It takes wisdom and a conviction that the truth is the thing, just as Shakespeare pointed out so aptly. "Gentleman, the plays the thing."... - and it may bring light and lift the veil of despair and the unanswerable will become less crazy and more readily tolerated. In that light I implore you to enlarge and incorporate into your milieu that which is worthy of further exploration and consideration. We love you dearly Dr. Peterson, I do not agree with you entirely but I am open to others having whatever beliefs they find best to live with as welcome and no threat to my own way of seeing the world. To say we worry about you is a gross understatement. To say I feel you have been led down the garden path by a certain orthodoxy is putting it mildly. I steep myself with the natural world, and I came into the world wearing indelible rose colored glasses that see the good bacteria balancing out the bad, to see the cup running over with love not despair, my burden is made less by fate, and what some call blissful ignorance is wisdom to me. You piss me off no end and I want to grab you by the shoulders and just shake you until you slap my face and shove me away with a fuck off attitude. You and I have a clash of ideas, of traditional ways of matters to grave to play around with. May God grant you an epipany that will rock your world for the better, and may I experience my own as well. Peace, love, understanding. Here is my contribution to this conversation: May it help at least one individual see that other perspectives on methods and reasoning. I have not personally viewed this clip, but it's title is relevant to your clip. This Harvard trained doctor has a series of presentations, and he speaks my language, not entirely but his core values and ethic is spot on for me. ua-cam.com/video/t7OPWRqjaSQ/v-deo.html I do not know whether he takes an orthomolecular approach, but his track record is such that I trust his presentation is worth viewing. I myself lean toward the physical findings in research which confirm causes, but that is a whole other aspect of this subject, yet I will never underestimate the power of a humanitarian doctor and the love he is able to share with others. Thank you for acknowledging the need for you to continue this conversation, it relates to one of the tragic elements of our time, and to a lesser degree of time immemorial. You've changed my life Dr. Peterson because now I've made up my procrastination of mind and am involved in plans to return to teaching dance and otherwise being fully engaged in the performing and fine arts community within my sphere of influence. For that alone I am forever in your debt. I also follow the work of Dr. Abram Hoffer may he r.i.p. He was also a formally trained board certified MD just like Dr. Peter Breggin, I also follow the work of Atomic physcist Dr. Gary Samuelson, as I feel his breakthroughs provides the Gutenberg of 21st century bio-tech to the world, not embraced at this time as it will eventually. imho. Also your daughter, with her innate spark of genius has mentioned the name of Dr. Mercola who is cutting edge and a godsend to the world of the health model v the disease model of western medicine. Mercola firmly believes one of my go-to doctor's Dr. Zack Bush is Nobel Prize worthy in his discovery of the aspects by which soil, absent any mitochondria mechanisms, communicate with one another, and the whole world of our internal endothelium system is now taking center stage in research which is not compromised by a pharmaceutical bottom line, the elements of our make up exist all around us, we are tied directly to the earth upon which we stand - just as our spirits reach for understanding beyond the stars we behold. Let the sunshine in! Now I will view your clip, but I am protective of my heart and my sanity and will not be bombarding myself with what depression serves up as good discernment, that much I know for sure. Thanks again. If freedom is your watchword, let it be your internal guide always, no matter where it leads you.
Depression is overwhelming. Alienation from my grandchildren. I'm a young grandma of 46. My son and his wife are verbally abusive and weaponized the children. My sadness is great. I can't shake it. I don't believe I'll see them again. I took care of all of them as infants. I'm fighting the urge to leave this life. It's the pain ,sadness. The suffering
Sorry to hear Georgia. I can talk to you if you need. I also need to talk to somebody.
I am so sorry Georgia, that is so very upsetting. There are always children out there, that need a Grandmother still.
How are you doing now sweetie?❤❤
My little brother commited suicide yesterday by driving fullspeed into a bus. Its so unreal. So painful. Now reading his "daily texts" and adding up his recent behaviour, I realize he has been screaming for help. Why did you do this!!!! So unnecessary, you'd had a great life ahead of you... Always in my heart
I’m so sorry I just lost someone also❤ I hope you find the support and love to heal, stay strong ❤️
My husband did that but it was driving into a semi. Left me and his 18 mo daughter behind. Everyone blamed me because we had just separated. They treated me like a witch who caused it. 13 years later I still blame myself and I can’t move on with someone else because I’m too scared. He ruined me.
@@Indite_BidenIt’s not your fault. I have been suicidal at points, but doing that, pushing all the guilt onto someone else is something that should never be done. He’s the one who made that decision, not you. You can feel however you may want, but you were not the one at the wheel when that occurred, he was. May he rest in peace, and may you find peace in time.
I cried less than a minute in. my ex... she killed herself in her mother's home with a gun. everyone blamed themself. I blame myself.
same over here. my dad has killed himself after he's lost his job and split from my mom. how do you deal with it?
sorry to hear that, both of you. that’s awful.
I know this was posted a while ago but does it ever get better?
@@jamant1922 you mean something to someone, I hope you feel better and if you ever need to talk email me at getknow420@gmail.com
@@jacobjohnson1130 how sweet of you.
To everyone,
Have a great day!
God Bless! Stay strong, stay safe and take care of yourselves! Wishing everyone the best! Jesus loves you! May the Holy Spirit guide you! 😇 💗🕊
Cheers to a better year buddy! 💞🥂🍻
Jordan Peterson is a man. A strong man. He honors his emotions, and to show that for the world to see without any shame and embracing his emotions and who is, is always a breath of fresh air to see. It's raw, its real. Just when i think i couldn't respect Jordan Peterson even more than i do now, he just shows another side of himself that inspires me lol
His tears are a sign of health that he has these emotions which need to come out. The scary thing would be not to see them, that could mean a decision has been made, the fight is over, the end is imminent. NOOOOOOOOOOO, none of us want to see that. Cry me a fucking river Jordan, just never give up!!!! There is hope out there for you and anyone. I know it with every fiber of my being, and it does NOT reside inside a pharmaceutical bottle either.
I am out . I don't listen to depression speaking and tag it for something else. He needs a dose of Dr. Peter Breggins, who tells it like it is with drugs... What a fucking waste..
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My father ended his life on Feb. 26th 2023. He had rheumatoid arthritis and the pain just became unbearable for him. But it was not the pain that killed him, it was the depression that came along with not being able to do anything he loved anymore. I tried everything I could to try and find new things he could do that wouldnt cause him pain, but nothing worked. My father was in a very dark place when he committed the act and I have guilt for not recognizing that and doing something about it.
I'm so sorry for your loss. I cant imagine how hard that must be for you and how heartbreaking your loss is. However you are feeling after this loss and for however long it is valid and it is normal. It seems like you were a very good son and you cared for your father deeply. Like Jordan says in this clip, you are not omnipotent and I can sense based on your comment that you did what you could to be there for him. As told in the video depressed people can get to such dark places and hide it from everyone, it's not your fault that you didn't recognize this. Take care of yourself and take it easy on yourself and talk to people who are able to hold space and listen and be there for you. My thoughts are with you.
I’ve done so many terrible things in my life, recovered from addiction, and made retribution’s for my wrongs, but I still hate myself, and I have people that love me or say they love me but they all hurt me so deeply, and so frequently, that I’ve pushed them all away and isolated myself completely, even my fiancé whom which I live with. I’m losing all purpose to keep going, I made a promise to myself that this relationship was my last, in the sense of I end my life with it. And I see that train approaching, but I can’t step off the tracks.
I just wanna hug you now Sir :(
that right there is medicine of a rare and fine quality. Hugs are so essential.
This is exactly what I needed to hear today.
I don’t want my family to think that way, I’ll write them a letter telling them how much I love them and it’s not their fault, they will know that I was in pain and death is a relief for me
Won’t change the fact they won’t recover.
@@aaziis i really don't care
I suffer from extreme depression and suicidal ideation,I'm blessed and grateful to come from a family of unconditional lovers. Like the most amazing people I've ever known and I see how much it's hurts them to see me suffer. it's taken a toll on everyone that's close to me and it causes me great guilt and pain, but every time I think of leaving I watch this video and it brings me back. I've always loved Jordans videos especially those geared on depression and it's helping more then any medicine I've ever taken. I'm so grateful I found this video. Thank you God for this man. You never know how many people's lives you really do effect. Thank you Jordan, truly.
I hope things go well for you :) Stay strong!
This man is a cultural icon. A lamp post in the mist. He'll go down as one of the greatest thinkers and philosphers of the 21st century, always cutting at the heart of what truly matters. I love this guy.
"A lamp post in the mist" is such a perfect way of describing the hope that these sorts of people provide. Is it your line, or did you hear it somewhere else?
Perhaps instinctive? As I too want to be a lighthouse on a misty beach's shore, as to guide the lost life boats ashore.
Hopefully, it include us too Taariq... An Encouragement to others
I don't think he'll go down as any sort of great thinker. That's an over-the-top claim. But in a time as empty as ours, the bar is pretty low...
This world is really deep dark. Thats exactly why Jesus ask us the be the light of the world. There is hope in God
What a beautiful human being Jordan Peterson is!
Everything from 3:00 - 3:45 is completely true. I've had depression most of my life and tried to kill myself a number of times. The only thing that ever got me back on track was hope, hope that things would get better. Unfortunately, now I no longer have any hope. I've spent too long trying to make things better, going after what I want, taking time to improve myself and make myself a more attractive and better person. Yet nothing will work.
I have work experience in various fields along with certifications, and work as many hours as they'll let me in any job I've had, yet I lost every job I had and now cannot even get an interview. Meanwhile my friends with less experience and certifications have no problem getting newer and better jobs constantly.
I've built myself physically into a man who could probably be a physique model, and worked for years to overcome my social anxiety and learned how to talk with people and be very charismatic and energetic. Anyone who meets me typically is drawn to me and comments on my physique or how I remind them of some celebrity. Yet I can't get a date to save my life,. Whether online or in real life, any girl I'm interested in has zero interest in me. Meanwhile guys I know who are nothing special physically, don't have great charisma or energy, aren't particularly funny, they have no problem getting dates, getting laid, getting girlfriends.
At this point I'm convinced something or someone is causing all of this, but no one I talk to about it has any idea what. I've tried to years to get any kind of positive results and they've just gotten worse and worse. I don't like being around people anymore because someone is bound to say "OMG man, you're so ______, you must do great at ________!" I smile and say yeah, but the reality is the exact opposite. It's like being told you're a phenomenal basketball player, yet cannot get accepted onto any team.
What people like Jordan don't understand, is that for some of us, life is too painful, everyday is just misery and anxiety, and everywhere you look you see examples of other people who have the things you want, while working less hard to get them, and having less skills, yet you can't catch a single break. When your life is like that, and you've tried for years to improve things with no results, eventually you give up trying and once that happens, it's only a matter of time before you hit the early exit button.
Please don't judge people who take their own life, it's the hardest thing you can do, and if someone does it, they had a good reason. If you can't understand it, congratulations, you have a good life, enjoy it.
NOFAP!!!@
I imagine my son who committed suicide thinking this way, please talked to someone in the Mental Health field, or a friend or family member, someone who loves you, it could make a difference. Believe yourself worthy without all the need to be better, find your strengths.
Nofap and meditation.
Talk to strangers. Volunteer. Find hobbies. Keto and I.F
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@@Vel_Plays_2.0 this does not help lol
@@kyzlo Wow you haven't tried nofap and meditating?
“There’s no coming back from death” that’s why people commit suicide.
CantFindAGoodUsername I agree, it’s just so hard to see how reality is a horrible place that shatters dreams and cuts the wings of many people (including myself and other friend i’ve known that struggle with depression). Suicide is the way to stop suffering. I tried to do it once, but before I pulled the trigger of my shotgun I thought about my brother and how my death would also cut his wings. So here I am, still struggling, but seeing my brother in my place is far worse than any other pain.
@@shopekuax2067 I kinda relate, except it's my parents instead of a brother. I've been thinking on a suicide method where I pay for someone to shoot and kill me. That'd break their hearts, but would not make them self-blame. Problem is I'm too fkin weak to even do that
@@GiovanniUnlived You are not weak. It takes pure strenght of will not to give in to suicide. I survived my depression and suicidal thoughts because I am stuborn, selfish and obstinate when I need to be. Weakness is when you eventually take the easy way out. You are here because you are still strong somewhere, somehow, and you have not given in.
@@foulplay99 I don't think so. When you become a parasite to the people around you and can't stop being one; when your friends have moved on with their lives, have kids and shit, and you're still stuck in your past; when you realize how shitty you are and how that must be, then you know life simply isn't for you. You should be brave and accept your fate. Trying to hold on to life so desperately for what - eating, sleeping, toothbrushing, showering; that is, things people already do; seems a sign of weakness to me. If you are a point of redundancy in a universe which is 100% uptime, you're not solving any problem; keeping yourself around is just a big waste of resources: better reuse the matter comprising your body for something else.
I have struggled with depression for so long i have made attempts on my life. It gets to the point where I feel so trapped, i think suicide must be the only way out. But i saw this video, and thought about what my sister would think of herself. I thought about how permanently damaged my mother would be. I even imagined my dad crying at my funeral. Suicide doesn't end the suffering. It passes it on to someone else. Thank you Jordan.
But what if that suffering is caused by family?
@@D0vin00 exactly 😔
Its worse when your family is the reason for all your mental health problems
@@D0vin00 and you don't anymore care about what others feel and you've become numb and the only way to stop all this fucking drama is silently dying and be seen as gone missing
He’s weakly ridiculous, don’t be like that idiot, be a man and deal with life like a man and not some fragile ass female, not even women should be that weak and fragile. It’s irritating!
I used to think the same way but I almost don’t even care how it would make my mom feel anymore. She treats me the worst out of all her kids, gets mad at me for my drug habits even tho she started smoking weed with me when I was 12 fucking years old, was always stingy with money for me but gets my brother a stupid fuckin $1500 gaming pc and never makes him do anything around the house. But when I was his age she’d tear me a new one if I forgot to do my chores even for just one day. Shit drives me fucking crazy. I can’t even move out either cuz rent is so dumbass expensive in California right now. The only other thing I can think of to do is just save up a few thousand $ and just get on a greyhound and fucking kick rocks and ghost my family cuz I’m either finna get tf away from this annoying ass stupid family who don’t even act like they want me around, or ima snort as much fentanyl as I can and just unalive myself so I don’t have to feel like such an unwanted piece of trash no more.
I hope I wont wake up tomorrow.
Thank you Jordan Peterson, it hasn’t been three months since our son took his own life because of his suffering from Bipolar Depression, and this has been the only video that has given me any relief from my grief. I see your empathy for others and we should all be more empathetic to ourselves because there is no real answer to Suicide from one’s own perspective.
I will endeavour not to blame
myself but to understand it was
my son’s time and chose to leave. I will remember him as a happy, loving, child and that his life had meaning and purpose.
Hopefully he wasn’t a grown ass man, that’s just ridiculous if so and if so he was weak and ridiculous. My advice to grown me. In particular is too don’t be like that idiot, be a man and deal with life like a man and not some fragile ass female, not even women should be that weak and fragile. It’s irritating!
I have been deeply depressed my whole life and I find listening to Dr. Peterson has helped me more then any counselling from a shrink.
Thank you!
Absolutely 👍
He might be the best psychologist in the country!
I was contemplating suicide two months ago after my career was shattered by some misinformation. I felt like everything had ended and I didn’t know how I could ever continue.
Wüstenfuchs I hope you’re still here and that things have turned around for you. Sending love your way.
You alive bro?
I really hope you're okay now.
how are you doing man? give us an update plz
I'm sorry that happened to you. That sounds so unfair for you to deal with.
The things is death is not scary and I'll never regret it. Being depressed is not a phase it's a marathon
There is no hope in this bleak souless world where everyone is just looking out for themselves. I've tried many ways to improve myself but I just hit dead ends.
Hopefully I can find some peace while I'm dead
Try to find people that find joy in other people having a good time❤
So well said. My only hope is either there is a loving God that will ease my pain in the afterlife, or that there is no afterlife and my death ends my suffering. But with my luck, Hell will be real and I'll go from my earthly hell of depression to eternal hell and torment in the afterlife.
My father was my hero, my idol, my teacher, and the best friend I ever had. He took his life 3 days before Thanksgiving 2020. I struggle everyday with his absence. I dream about his death every night. I have never thought so much about ending my own life. I'm in therapy but I don't know how to make it stop
I'm so very sorry. My heart goes out to you.
Forgive yourself for your position in the world, in time you’ll see yourself as someone worth of the world. For now it will be tough, but the light shines through the darkness externally through you. Your love for your father is virtuous and all feelings that come along with that, but your future self with love you now if you can get through this positively. The world is with you, even when it’s in your own mind. Don’t let it get away from you, we love you!
Please don’t, I feel bad for you.
I want to the same thing but I have a son I hope the universe help.you while going to this
As a guy who had been depressed and suicidal i really feel for you
And Jordan's response, damn man mad respect for you
That's the moment you know something new has clicked, when you start imagining your family being happier because you're dead.
@@FirstLast-cf4mi My family WOULD be happier without me. I just have to do the job right and convince them of this truth by making them hate me first
@@GinoACosta friend, please don't do that. Please value yourself and know your worth. If you want an anime that has a good story on this watch Rurouni Kenshin, really helped me to value mine
Have a great day!
God Bless! Stay strong, stay safe and take care of yourselves! Wishing everyone the best! Jesus loves you! May the Holy Spirit guide you! 😇 💗🕊
Cheers to a better year buddy! 💞🥂🍻
@@GinoACosta hey dude I don’t know you but please don’t do that to yourself, please don’t hurt yourself for someone else’s problems, just hold on, I know how hard it is, I’ve been there it gets tolerable before it gets better, take care of yourself man, and I’m here if you need to talk
@@Ash-nl1qi Hello, Thank you. So much! I'll try!
Jordan Peterson may be Canadian, but he is a goddamned American national treasure as well! I consider him my Canadian father, as a second to my own. A father I can go to with questions I may hold back for my own.
Canada is part of America man XD
The last thing a depressed person wants to be told is to talk to a stranger and take pills to get over it. It just makes them feel even worse about themselves
One of my friends described her thoughts of the matter like so
"Imagine people reaching out to someone who is drowning and sinking in a pool. They climb and struggle desperately to get to their hands, but each time they get close,, the people pull their hands back a bit. So they keep trying and trying but eventually, they realize that they're doomed, that the people don't actually care, and they allow themselves to sink forever."
They attack and bully him because he tries his hardest to face reality in this life. So difficult for the lazy ppl in this world who want to live in a fantasy land where someone else is always to blame for their own lack of self awareness and and self responsibility. I have been guilty of such..but I see now.I was tempted like many to just check out in such an awful world. Should we let them win?
Maybe you should encourage lazy people to commit suicide?
@@SeaHorseNSparrow you know, theres inflation, and people who were in debt and too lazy to pay it live in heaven while the hard work people got cock blocked by their efforts. We dont know how many hours people should work, sometimes the states is just so corupted that you better of take evrything you can while you still can. Well, i guess prople like that isnt admirable huh?, i guess its just a matter of action. If we can make the state NOT coruptted, i think we can be adapt to work hard, i guess now the state isnt as coruptted as we think it is, so thats a good thing
@@a.bagasm.7253 Hard working people get cockblocked by who?
How many hours people should work: Are you taking freelancers and entrepreneurs into consideration? Are you asking how many hours freelancers and sole proprietors should work? Also tell me, if someone works hard for 20 years at McDonald's an retires after 20 years, and another works hard for 10 years on Wall Street and retires, tell me, is this difference a question of laziness or stupidity?
@@SeaHorseNSparrow @Shay XT Inflation, inflation makes people who were in debt be happy that they never see their debt ever again. And no im not asking that, if theyre already that lazy in the first place they cant have any damn company cuz you have to work hard in the first place. *sigh* IQ everybody, no one wants to talk about it, ,do you've taken that into consideration?. How about people with diffrent personalities?, besides only 3/10 of the workers do the half damn work.its not something you can change culturally, even nature has it like(mass in planets, trees hight, vaccum cleaner, few get the most and the most get a few). There are few men who works 80 hours a week, and work makes them feel unhappy. god rested after 7 days of creating the world, stability is not static, its dynamic. Take your time off so that you'd be able to work again for tommorow or next week, next month, a year so that youre not dead. How about in a world where people work every damn second they're exist in this world?, is that what you want?, world full of negative emotion, really?, thats a one damn miserable world. Each people is wired diffrently and thats why we need diversity, individual diversity with diverse personalities not by their race or gender.
@@a.bagasm.7253 Taking time off is for lazy people. If you're not always working, then there is a least some amount of laziness that exists. The most hardworking person is one that dies on the job, even if it is entirely to the benefit of someone else. This is society.
In my experience the only thing that really can save someone from the abyss is love. Depression is just an expression of lack of self love. Someone has horrible thoughts about themselves, consequentially their emotions go to hell and as a result of that their behavior becomes self-sabotaging and also toxic for others which in turn makes their thoughts about themselves even worse and the vicious cycle continues. So yeah, if you have someone arround who’s depressed, just give them a hug, validate their feelings, show them that you care and that they matter. It’s not about giving good advice or showing interest. It’s about genuine compassion.
It sounds corny but in my experience it’s that simple; love heals.
Wish it was that simple. My dad had everything he needed to be happy, more love in his life than 99% of people. Grandkids, 7 children, a passionately loving wife of 27 years who did everything she could to help his self love. It comes from somewhere far deeper than you'd think.
stfu dumbass you know nothing about pain jackass. go Live ur happy NPC life u pathetic human.
@@cirrus393 it comes from the devil, it’s satanic, it’s demonic 😂
@@StopSeekingValidation Unfortunately only in make believe fairy tale world does the devil exist.
@@StopSeekingValidation So I'm going through what I'm going through because the devil doesn't exist? The fuck does that even mean?
You're one stupid cunt aren't you 🤣
You can't rescue everyone. Everyone has their own destiny.
i keep coming back to this video whenever i feel suicidal, or i forget what happens to the people left behind. gives me some comfort
I believe that a suicidal person doesn't really want to die ... They just can't stand feeling the way they do any more.
I come back to this video every few months, when the suicidal ideation is particularly bad.
Me too.
God bless you. Wish I could hug you
My gf committed suicide. She shot herself in the head with my pistol. 2 and a half years ago. I’m still struggling to cope with it. I’ve been abusing alcohol and know I need to change. 😔
Im so sorry you had to go through a experience like that and hopefully one day you can find peace. Sending lots of love.
@@AS-on1fz ❤️
Jordan, you have captured this so accurately. I am in that space and it's hard. I'm fighting it but it's terrible. I've made so many mistakes over many years and its all come together in a massive crash. I've suffered with depression for a long time but now is the worst it's ever been because I can see all the mistakes that have led to this point. I'm on medication, and seeing a counselor but it's still not getting any better. But I did want to say how accurate you described this,
Those were exactly my thoughts several years ago when I was suicidal.
I thought of myself as just taking up space in the world, that the world would be a better place if I didn't exist. My forecast of my life was just darkness and hopelessness.
Looking back 10 years hence, I'm glad my attempts at suicide didn't succeed. I'm glad that I'm still here, and for the people whose lives i could touch.
@@eski037 I went to a psychologist at that time, and after two or three sessions of me sharing what was on my mind, she asked me, who is the most important person to you in the world? I said it was my brother. Then she asked, what would happen to them if i took my life?
That made me hold on, even if only for their sake. And eventually, things did change, and life did become better.
Peterson is been crying a lot lately, man I don't know why but I feel for him
Im not surprised. Have you heard him talk about the literal hundreds of people who line up after his talks? If was confronted with that as often as he is id cry allot too.
Yeah but I'm afraid that people start to think these are crocodile tears in some way. I mean if he broke down like that in public, his credibility would be ruined toward leftists...
My feeling exactly, I believe it is physical with a basis that can be identified and remedied. He does not apparently and that is the ultimate tragic side to this.
+Klymahnn. He broke down and cried during a radio interview (5 live i think) when talking about young men. Many on the left already hate Peterson and think hes some kind of far right ideologue, if you want proof just look at comments on TYT about him.
Klymahnn: Never thought his tears were crocodile. He is in public so to speak on you tube, not as you say and I get your meaning, but it would be the achilles heel the left is looking for and they are rotten enough to pounce on your crocodile tear outcry. Dr. Peterson may hate my saying so, but Big Ass Pharma and all the masking drugs he has turned to and raves about are not his friend, they are his worst fucking enemy. He sees no other way out except the extremes he is currently experimenting with in diet. He seems to proud somehow, yet he speaks of humility as a virtue worth having. Why he does not embrace functional medicine and seek out their counsel is beyond my comprehension? Integrative, alternative , functional, medical modalities has his answer - he needs to go to them and work with them. We have a finite number of nutritional needs to keep us in balance, we have a gazillion brain cells in our intestines, the communication going on in the body is under the microscope of dedicated and brilliant researchers who are not funded by big pharma and are looking for the truth in discovery rather than the presuppositions imposed upon them by a private for profit industry ... Help is alive and functioning, but if depression speaks it is not worth the time or the trouble, then depression wins. Depression breeds poor decision making. This is the sad part about it all.
Much love to you Jordan. Thank you for helping so many people. I promise that no matter what happens i will not commit suicide and also find a meaning to my life.
My friend died today and I come to this video to set me on the right path. I realise how much people will suffer with my death even if it is one person…
As much as I hate this world and my suffering will continue infinitely I will never put that on someone else.. I hate friend for doing this to me but I will always love him for what I had when he was still around.
I love you Matt
I've been struggling for such a long time and it seems that its inevitable for me, but this is exactly what I'm worried about when it comes to my family
dont do it, seek help! try it will get better. it did get better for me
Whe I see my brother like this I get so hateful and full of cringe we both can't contemplate seeing each other like this far worse than being like this ourselves
Same
I appreciate your raw honesty in expressing your feelings in this video, and I appreciate you also talking about self-blame. There has been lots of depression and suicides in my family - an abnormally high level of suicide. Thank you for talking about this subject.
My niece shot herself in the heart while at her boyfriends grave site. My other niece hung herself from a rafter in her family barn while the family was gone away, she was being faced with drug dealers driving up from another state to make her pay for flushing down their profits which had been placed in the trunk of her car. I have another niece hooked on prescription drugs, by doctors who could care less and write endless prescriptions for addicting deadly drugs many times a day for days on end. I am intimately familiar with those who suffer depression, anxiety, mental disarray, but I do not follow the pharmaceutical line and I do not follow those MD's who keep their prescription pads on continual order because they use them so frequently as to be in my way of thinking criminally insane. Expressing feelings is wonderful, we all need to embrace that but propagating a methodology with the courts alone prove is highly problematic is a whole other ball game, and I oppose supporting that kind of thinking - and I consider it judgment which has gone awry.
Sarah Eichelberger While I wholeheartedly endorse your right to disavow pharmaceuticals, I really get it. But the way Peterson put it is so true "untreated depression causes death" it damn well feels like it. Antidepressants and single mothers are highly correlated with school shooters, so I'm healthily suspicious of big pharma. But a little more stringent diagnostic guidelines and the ability to not have the diagnosis on your permanent record if you are treated, would sort quite a lot of the issues we have currently.
Sarah Eichelberger the other question is one of liberty. Do you have the right to be a drug addict and do I have the right to be your dealer? Anyways good luck with everything. I'm not here to fight, just throwing another opinion out there.
Nathan Bear: Of course the given he expressed is true. I come from a different school of thought than Dr. Peterson. I am also acutely aware how taking anti-depressants affect the mind and I know when I hear depression itself doing the speaking. Tragic because drugs kill clarity of thought but that is not the only murders they commit within the synapses and components of the central nervous system. I see suicide for what it is , I see murder on a microscopic scale for what it is. Dr. Peterson does not see the psychiatric establishment in this light.. I see Dr. Peterson as a captured pawn by the smoke and mirrors; the false euphoria these drugs present to a patient is no benefit to anyone. Historically long before Hitler came to power in Germany the facts bear out that the established psychiatric profession was murdering mentally ill people by the thousands in specially made hospitals and it is within this profession where a lethal edge eugenic tool for post modern neo-marxist ideology is alive and well, a sociopathic brother tool to the SJW movement. Just as it was in those prelude extermination psychiatric wards (pre-dating) the arrival of Adolph Hitler. Dr. Peter Breggin's - a Jewish psychiatrist alludes to these facts in this talk: And lest we forget during Operation Paper Clip some 300 high ranking Nazi scientists were shepherded into the U.S.A. I do not buy the official CIA line put out to the public that this was carried out because these Nazi's would help fight the cold war. I have no doubt many of these Nazi doctors/scientists were into psychiatric matters. ua-cam.com/video/Sr7FnEu0G1w/v-deo.html
They’re weak and ridiculous, don’t be like those idiots, get over the bs and deal with life. People shouldn’t be that weak and fragile. It’s irritating!
I'm revisiting this video after the passing of my mum this year, and I just needed to hear it again. Please try to do everything you possibly can to help someone you love.
You are not alone, it is very difficult
@@user-mn6ho2om3p Thank you
I have BPD and PTSD and the past month has been hell, what you said about the darkness. 6 years of drug abuse. Kicked that first shot. But the hopeless worthless feeling lingers and is prominent. Thank you Mr. Peterson. I can honestly say I never gave you a shot. But I found this and I'm thankful.
I genuinely love you Dr.peterson, you've helped me in more ways than you could ever imagine and we've never even met.
Even when he is crying he speaks so nicely. I hope he gets a lot of love in this world! I wish your family a good recovery!
I’ll be going out with a bang for sure. Pretty much done with life, being blamed
For everything, being fired for no cause, no family, no friends nothing. Once my dog goes I’m out. But thank you Jordan Peterson for giving me these last few years. I do appreciate it. Cheers 🍻
How are you?
Lol he just told you
Sometimes you unalive yourself out of anger and realization that everyone is selfish and they only care about themselves..
Gotta put your mental health first
As a depressed person I agree with Dr. Peterson. It would be so easy to help me, but I have nobody. At least I'll never be a burden.
There are professionals, therapists, there are suicid lines, doctors
@@BTBVOY. I contacted a couple of therapists but they are way too expensive, about 90 euros for each session. In addition, they are not available late in the evening or in the weekend, it means I would have to get a leave from the work each time. That's not viable.
PS: I'm Italian
Breaks my heart to see Jordan sad.
He is a awsome human!
Keep doing your thing it's mutch needed regards from Sweden.
trongborg sweden has major suicide issues. Went to denmark once, never met such sad depressing people.
Funny how they think that, after your gone. Never when your alive.
Yeah for real that’s what I was thinking. Nobody cares or thinks about it until ur already dead and gone so idk why they act like they care so much when we’re dead when they didn’t even give a fuck how we were doing when we were alive
@@sausage5033 Yep. Life is just one big paradoxical fart box. Like Deadpool said, "life is one big train wreck, with only brief commercial like periods of happiness".
Beginning at 3:03 brought me to tears. I’ve never heard another person say what I think about myself all of the time.
As a person that is deep into depression and I can't look to my family for help because for me it looks like weakness to do so but my alcoholism and depression is so far gone I revert back to this clip it makes me feel guilty and shameful for how I'm feeling. Because suicide seems like a easy option which leaves one's family devastated and so how do you move forward with feeling the way that I do while not trying to hurt your family I struggle with that every single day but no one cares
Suicide becomes a solution. Suicide becomes Almost an uplifting thought in times of despair because the solution of Suicide gives hope that there is a way out. Been there, haven’t done that or I wouldn’t be typing these words.
Suicide felt like my last form of control when I wanted to do it. I could choose the when, where and how to the most important moment of my life when I chose when where and how to end it all. I decided against it for the sake of my parents and I went on anti-depressants. I'm still here 8 yars later, but it still cuts deep to think about it.
I guess there's often (not always) an element of revenge in suicide, in that you derive at least some satisfaction from the fantasy of the people around you finally understanding how much you suffered; the guilt and grief they feel is not all that different from what you carried around yourself and which alienated you so far as to wanting to end your life.
not really. I would say 99% of people who commit suicide struggle with the thought that their act will make people suffer. I have never heard of anyone who committed suicide out of spite
Today I feel weak.
Like I'm not enough in my own skin and I never will be.
I'm 27 and constantly wishing I could accept myself for who I am.
I hope I can defeat or even suppress the enemy within.
I will not give up. And I'm proud of that!
And I hope you don't too.
Love you all.
Let's make 2023 our year
I cannot express properly my immense respect for this most decent, kind and brilliant man.
Thank you, Dr. Peterson.
You are an inspiration and unbelievably well readand thoughtful.
Hi, I've been watching your video clips for months now and I find them very helpful. I love your idea about how people would watch short videos instead of hours long original videos, and in that way more people will be able to have chance to change their lives. And, so I'm very thankful for your work. I hope you keep it up.
How can anyone in their right mind think that Jordan Peterson is a bad man? His heart is so full of love it oozes out of him uncontrollably sometimes. Sure, he can get riled up when discussing certain topics such as gender dynamics and socialism, but he has a damn good reason for that because almost nobody is talking about this stuff. Bless your heart, Jordan.
I really don’t know what to do I feel like there’s no escape, I’m born into a world I don’t even want to be in it’s cruel we can’t choose.
read the Quran, you will know what you are in. It is the cure and the only solution.
The way you describe the symptoms of depression are so spot on. I’m a 42 year old father of two boys and i struggle every day with however my presens is positive or negative.
My great friend/coach/mentor ended his life yesterday. Thank you for sharing this video. Watching this has given me some comfort on one of the most difficult days of my life.
Watching this then reading the comments and seeing that one single person like Dr Peterson affects so many lives and in fact prevented the death of many is so touching to me.
That by itself shows me that no life is ever a waste, you don’t know your effect on people and most of the time we’re not really aware of our impact on others..
Suicide isn't a bad option. Sweet release.
This used to be a very, very tough video for me to watch when it came out 4 years ago. It used to really rattle me when I'd hear him talk about how some people are beyond saving. It made me think that God forbid I ever got even close to that dark place, what hope is there if some people are beyond saving? But it took me a good while to come to grips with this reality that depression can lead people down these irreversible paths, and that some can be saved and some cannot. I had to learn to accept that. But I never wavered on hope as a concept and life philosophy.
The thing about depression is it’s so hard to escape. It’s like being in a dark room and searching for a way out.That’s why people get hopeless bc they don’t know if they can find a way out and they are completely overwhelmed by despair and confusion.
Hope everybody is doing well in this comment section,depression is one of the worst sickness and every one should be helped about it. People are treating it like it will disappear itself without doing anything and that’s wrong.
Yeah, I've had it once, life seemed so unmanageable and intolerable that there was only one thought all the time, which one - is obvious. Hope you are doing fine too, man!
Ozolinsh V. Completely understand what you’ve been through,I actually tried to kill myself 3 times but I’m all fine and wiser now and that’s the best thing about it.
putting a mask over a cancer may cover it up, if the mask is rigged right it might even make the person feel free of the cancer, but it is not helpful really, not when you see it as a mask and not a remedy.
The French Charismatic Guide what helped you out?
Ozolinsh V. Hmm.. my mom,friends and myself. My mom helped me at a time when it was the most crucial,even tho she wasn’t there for me before,she came to help me at the exact moment when I needed her,i intentionally hugged her for the first time (i was 17 years old) and my friends helped me a lot,trying to make everything funny and helping me out. I think the most important thing to do is to accept help and not take everything upon yourself.
I have recently found this remarkable man and have been intently listening to his lectures. He has been answering questions for me that for years I found no relief. To see him cry but continue on shows me his dedication to help his fellow man by gifting valuable information despite his pain he reaches outside himself, outside of his own personal pain and continues to try to heal others. A truly unselfish, loving act in which causes me to respect him even more. My daughter took her life a few years ago. She was so sweet and beautiful and only 29. It's painful to talk about or to listen to counsel for healing but honestly, although my heart hurts for his pain as well, I would not even listen to anyone on how to heal if they haven't been through something similar. Sadly the only real understanding of the depth of pain is someone who has lived through that. The price is too high for this club and I wish it on no one. There's no way to describe it and only someone who has experienced it,I my opinion, has the right to say anything. Thank you Mr.Peterson for your
Kindness.
I first heard this clip on a motivational video and though maybe it had been edited down for the best bits.
I was surprised to find it’s word for word! The man is a phenomenal thinker & speaker
0:46 The only reason a friend of mine won't pull the trigger, he didn't want to put his mom through that.
Lots of us
Exactly.
I absolutely love how Jordan Peterson truly expresses himself. The pain he felt with this question makes him so real, so loveable. Most intellects lack this empathy. I am sure their lives are easier than his. May God bless him and balance those thoughrs that bring his mind this great pain.
Jordan, my wife and I love you sir . Thank you for having a voice . You have helped me and my wife and many other people in this world . It's like you're an angel. God bless
I can’t see any way out of this. I need to go
I lost my sister to fentanyl 3 years ago. It didn't take very long for the grief, the depression, self blame and suicidal thoughts to wrap their chains around me. Even to this day I still beat myself up over it. And sadly no matter how much my family and my counselor tells me it wasn't my fault, I will always feel like it is, until the day that I finally decide to end it all.
I lost a friend once to what I assume was depression. Their death was too vague for my understanding at the time and I never felt comfortable asking their family members for more details. But I felt incredible guilt, not cause I could have prevented their death, but because I knew I couldn’t be held responsible. It’s strange but when I first heard of their death, I really wanted to be blamed, because it would have meant there was a version of events in which I could still be able to hug them and say, yes we got through it. I have no idea what merit my ideas, thoughts or feelings have on this comment section. I just hate the fact there is no reality which I could have done more
Look into quantum immortality 😉
This video helped me more than you'll ever know, truly. It's been almost 20yrs since my brother's suicide, and 18 for my mom. I can still see it like it just happened., I cry allot. I don't talk to my family. They drink allot. And they blame me. I was last ones to see them. And if I hadn't taken my son to the park. I wouldn't of missed me mom's phone call. It wouldn't of mattered honestly. She woulda done it with me on the phone. Anyways they don't know or realize I blame me too. I take the blame to spare them from it. It's such a heavy burdin and a bs one.my mom had gone completely crazy in the last few years she was around. My family didn't live it . I went through horrible things due to it. But I loved my mom so much. And just mopped up after her . I instantly felt better the way you put it. I cried like a big ole baby, snot and all lol jk. Thank you I really mean it
There is such relief in someone just describing the agony of suicidal depression. And understanding just how lonely and misunderstood it really is.
I already loved Jordan Peterson, but it seems like every video I watch of his makes me love him that much more. As someone who suffers from major depressive disorder, seeing him so genuinely concerned with such things gives me hope.
I have been suffering with deep depression for the majority of my life. I keep trying to get help but nothing really helps. I am constantly beating myself up and not feeling worthy. The pressure in my chest and constant heart dropping feelings are hard to bear. I have never not felt alone.
just get stoned and jerk off,fuck life aint so complex
Carlospicywiener
I am not going to live a life of drugs and denial. If being a pathetic low life in general works for you, that's great!.. you did make me feel a little better. At least I am not like you
Alex Zander-I can relate to your experience and I think it's something that can be managed but not sure if there is a cure as such. I try to counteract the negative self-talk and remind myself of the good things about me.
May Knott
Thanks for your input. I really appreciate it. In the past I would've never put out something so vulnerable about myself. It was always my dark secret. I've been going to therapy and working hard to change my mind set. I have 3 kids and a wonderful wife. I can't give up.
How you doing AL? I recently started JP's self authoring program and I have already found it help more than anything else I have ever done to try to fix my inner challenges.
Sometimes it’s only thinking of the ones you’ll leave behind that stops you
everyday i think about it
I don’t always agree with JP, but this was so heartfelt from such a great intellectual. Depression is multifactorial, it diminishes ones agency and autonomy. My prayers and best wishes to anyone going through any psychological problems, please speak to someone. 🙏👍
Wow! That was an incredibly heartfelt response to this woman's question as well as tremendous compassion and understanding of those who suffer from depression. The loss to this couple must be devastating beyond words and Jordan Petersen showed tremendous compassion. Truly moving.
It’s strangely comforting to see him be vulnerable for once. It reminds me that, even though I don’t agree with everything he preaches, is he is still human.
18/11 21 starting to struggle, this last month have been so fucking terrible i feel like its never going to end