Heyman 42PPH - sailing this handsome new decksaloon cruiser packed with ideas and space...

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  • @HeymanYachts
    @HeymanYachts 27 днів тому +19

    I just noticed that a few people have commented on the noise from the rig. It is very unusual, and your comments are totally understandable. My wife and I noticed this noise on the first day when sailing down through Danish waters towards Kiel.
    There was no vibration to be found anywhere in the rig itself, only this loud noise, and we had a long conversation with Selden Mast about it. For the rest of our course towards Germany we sailed on different angles of reach or dead downwind, and the sound did not return (until the second, windy day of the test sail in Kiel).
    The most likely cause is a vibration from one of the 3 Dyneema halyards inside the mast. There is an alternative theory that the jibsheet (which runs double from the track up to the first set of spreaders) creates a resonance between the twin parts. In any case, Selden and I are confident that the cause will be easily sorted.
    Gabriel Heyman / HEYMAN YACHTS AB

  • @tomwilliams8675
    @tomwilliams8675 Місяць тому +43

    A pilot house without the ability to pilot the boat is just a raised salon.
    Thanks for the review Toby.

  • @shainester
    @shainester Місяць тому +9

    Toby always does such good reviews. Really enjoy how he goes about putting them together.

    • @yachtingworld
      @yachtingworld  Місяць тому +2

      Thank you very much @shainester - that's really appreciated!

    • @cakemoss4664
      @cakemoss4664 16 днів тому +1

      I love how he starts his reviews..."And this is the SuperDuper 65". It's the tone of voice which conveys his interest.

  • @ironichumorist
    @ironichumorist Місяць тому +25

    Can’t say that vibration wouldn’t get annoying after 5 minutes let alone on passage. It’s certainly going to cause damage over time. They need to sort that out immediately.

  • @HeymanYachts
    @HeymanYachts 26 днів тому +2

    Oh, and I also noticed a few comments about this not being a Pilot House Yacht. A pilot house should have an inside steering position, and I agree fully, this is part of the definition.
    But fact is that the PPH does offer an inside steering position - in the aft corner of the salon seating, with an optional second steering control (via autopilot) + second throttle (via cable) + a support for a tablet showing the plotter display (via Bluetooth), all pulled out from behind the backrest.
    This has so far been installed on one of the PPHs built.
    Still, it is somehow true that the emphasis in the PPH is not on an inboard pilot seat, facing forward, with all controls and instruments - but more on an inviting yacht for sailing and living on board for long periods of time. This is a very deliberate choice.
    Gabriel Heyman / HEYMAN YACHTS AB

  • @GoodkatNW
    @GoodkatNW Місяць тому +20

    For "tons of thought" put into this boat, you'd think they would have at least figured out a way to place the sheeting angles so they aren't chafing against handrails etc. Even the mainsheet is pressed up against a handrail, and that single sheeting point on the reacher is forcing it to rub against the lifelines/rail. Also, the groaning noise at only 22-26kn upwind is insane, imagine dealing with that for a day or two on an upwind haul.
    That saloon seating being on the same height as the deck means nothing, because a few inches to the right you have two steps down, and a few feet forward of that you have another set of steps....The Sirius 40DS feels larger on the interior, and also much more practical. It's definitely full of "ideas", but not particularly good ones considering the competition.

    • @illdeletethismusic
      @illdeletethismusic Місяць тому +3

      And another step down to the galley, along with its storage mainly below the floor.
      Knowing the people i sail with on longer trips, this design would guarantee someone drunkenly stumbling there.
      As for space, this doesn"t seem big compared to boats without the deck saloon, while still having that unfortunate look of a boat adding that extra volume no matter what.

    • @shainester
      @shainester Місяць тому +2

      It’s a beautiful boat, but I totally agree with you on the Sirius 40DS. And, you can actually pilot the Sirius within the pilot house. I haven’t been on either boat, but from the video reviews, it seems like Sirius has done a much better job with this type of design. Maybe the cockpit is better on this boat, but the Sirius seems to have outclassed this boat in probably all other aspects.

    • @brianlitz5102
      @brianlitz5102 Місяць тому +2

      Yes the Serius seems much better put together. Even the Moody offers a lot more than this and the price is not that far off on the 41 to be a valid competitor. I think this needs a lot of work. And the water in the cockpit without a weather deck? Looking at the new Island Packet MS at an identical price point there is no comparison in my mind.

    • @goolug
      @goolug Місяць тому +2

      @@shainester To be fair, Sirius seems to have outclassed any other boat in each size they produce, really hard to look at other deck saloons under 45ft when Sirius is that incredible.

    • @markpeter1968
      @markpeter1968 24 дні тому

      Walk around island bed is a massive luxury on a boat this size. Cockpit is almost perfect IMO. I thought the noise was a motor in the mast? Beautiful boat, love the pilot house raised saloon

  • @ianscott3180
    @ianscott3180 29 днів тому +1

    Having two areas for sitting, relaxing, reading, or working is great. Even with only a couple aboard, it lets each do their own thing, especially on an extended cruise. We don't all share a 2×3 metre space at home. Imagine what that would do to the divorce rate. I like the idea 😊.

  • @philipwright7186
    @philipwright7186 Місяць тому +3

    Terrific boat, reminds me very much of another Heyman design - the Fantasi 44, one of the most beautiful cruising boats I've ever seen.

  • @KjellBjörklund-p8b
    @KjellBjörklund-p8b Місяць тому +1

    One of the most beatiful boats I`ve seen. Was lucky to ”run in to” hull no1 in Hanko Finland last year and the owner asked me in for a quick look around. Loved it!

  • @ArcticSeaCamel
    @ArcticSeaCamel Місяць тому +2

    Thanks for this! That is nice boat and I really like especially the cockpit-saloon-galley-combination. Many similar ideas with SeaCamel 😁

  • @Papaondas
    @Papaondas 20 днів тому +1

    Toby you should considered to visit and make a review of the Sirius 40 DS, thanks for sharing your honest opinion of this Heyman Yacht, as always with great detail

    • @kenscrackofdoom599
      @kenscrackofdoom599 10 днів тому

      I was thinking of Sirius yachts as I watched this. I think even the 35 has better use of room than this.

  • @JayBikayPhD
    @JayBikayPhD Місяць тому +4

    Love a good pilot house / raised saloon! Nice video Toby.

    • @yachtingworld
      @yachtingworld  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you!

    • @scottaustin2270
      @scottaustin2270 28 днів тому

      It's not a Piot House M8, sorry

    • @JayBikayPhD
      @JayBikayPhD 27 днів тому

      @@scottaustin2270what do you think PPH stands for M8? (Yes it lacks a true pilot station but they call it a pocket pilot house)

  • @lordhamercy9098
    @lordhamercy9098 Місяць тому +9

    Toby Hodges posts, we watch.

  • @Paultschoppmota
    @Paultschoppmota Місяць тому +1

    Finally!! I was eagerly waiting for this video. Thank you!

  • @justanotherhumanlikeyou
    @justanotherhumanlikeyou Місяць тому +29

    Nice boat but that vibration noise is pretty concerning as vibration means wear which is cost somewhere based on my experience.

    • @ArturZagaj-Izraelita
      @ArturZagaj-Izraelita Місяць тому +1

      Maszty w dobie paneli słonecznych są przeżytkiem ale jeśłi mają być to powinny być samonośne (bez linek i odciągów).

  • @rogwen
    @rogwen Місяць тому +2

    A very impressive boat, as stated by Toby, and deserving of the time spent showing it all.

  • @someguy9440
    @someguy9440 Місяць тому +5

    Great review. The old salt in me appreciates this nicely built and well thought-out yacht, but it feels like 1995 thinking at 2025 prices. I think this will appeal to older generation of sailors who are looking for an intimate interior space that provides lots of bracing. But I can't help but to point out its paradox: why would I need space for 12 in the cockpit of a self-tacking cruiser when it's designed and built for "a couple" down below, and has no cabin space aft of the hatch bulkhead? The interior reminds me of the old Nauticat boats that have a lot of small, funky interconnected spaces strung together to build up volume in the vertical dimension. I think that newer monohull designs like RM's 45' RM1380 really challenge convention about how much advantage there is in having a raised saloon. There's no shortage of light in the RM1380 and clever attention to the hull windows mean that passengers can see the horizon while either seated or standing, plus there's room for a proper chart table. Inside it looks to have about double the interior space over PH designs like the Moody, Sirius, and this Heyman. Ditto Dufour's new 44 tardis, which is down right palatial in comparison to the PH boats while remaining quite open and airy and still providing respectable performance for about 40% less money.

  • @symonsmith3497
    @symonsmith3497 Місяць тому +3

    Sirius 40 DS is the perfect boat.

  • @peterb9038
    @peterb9038 23 дні тому

    Keep playing those lotto numbers. Nice boat

  • @PetegNZ
    @PetegNZ Місяць тому +8

    Are we ever going to see a Sirius review? They've been in this game a long time...

    • @someguy9440
      @someguy9440 Місяць тому

      Well it's not like they need the exposure. Everybody who's in love with Sirius knows exactly who they are and how to find them.

    • @jnc214
      @jnc214 Місяць тому +1

      @@someguy9440what about those not in love with Sirius but like a review to compare them to other makes.

    • @someguy9440
      @someguy9440 Місяць тому +1

      @@jnc214 those boats sell themselves. Sirius knocked it clean out of the park. The 35 is incredible. I think a lot of folks don't realize how big a 45 ft yacht really is until after their first trip to the fuel dock 😄

  • @Zabessa
    @Zabessa Місяць тому +1

    Lovely boat, great tour. I'd be inclined to go without the rubber seal on a cockpit that size for a little extra drainage!

  • @alderwickjason1544
    @alderwickjason1544 Місяць тому +5

    Think your friendship and respect for the designer got the better of you on this one. Great looking yacht but as you started to dissect it the flaws become readily apparent and some major re-tweaking would be needed I think.

  • @rreeder4571
    @rreeder4571 Місяць тому +2

    That leaking transom shows that she pull water under way. I'm sure that will affect performance.

  • @AndyUK-Corrival
    @AndyUK-Corrival 24 дні тому +1

    Not blown away. Some of the sheeting angles need revision, rubbing on blocks, handrails and cable swan neck. Minor teething troubles. Huge cockpit which is super safe. Looked small below for a 42. I have a Moody Carbineer 44 which has a better pilot house I would say but I’m biased. I prefer the look of the Moody DS models for style. Andy UK

  • @nufsed
    @nufsed 22 дні тому

    Looks like a well crafted yacht. Perfect except engine access.

  • @Lilou34650
    @Lilou34650 Місяць тому +1

    I love this boat, it's a beauty.
    ...Kiel - Schilksee...?

  • @marchuvfulz
    @marchuvfulz Місяць тому +3

    The noise and vibration going upwind! How would you sleep on passage?

  • @JimiJo
    @JimiJo Місяць тому +3

    Non sailer dreaming of a life not lived, 😜. I’ve a question and please forgive if I don’t know the correct names but surely the headsail pulled out over the guard rail can’t be good for the sail?

  • @Seldenmast
    @Seldenmast Місяць тому

    Regarding the "humming" sound at 4:30....could be vibrations from the parked Code halyard causing it. Really hard to tell without being onboard. Sounds a bit like a Dyneema backstay but the backstay on this boat is wire.

  • @xdeth68
    @xdeth68 28 днів тому +1

    Most comments already hit on the major shortfalls, engine space, line chafe sheeting angles, noise below while sailing, weird steps below.
    What’s not mentioned is the keel which is extremely shallow draft, nothing on how it’s weighted or attached or any stability specs..

  • @Dean_W-Cdn
    @Dean_W-Cdn Місяць тому

    Very nice

  • @MisterUnicornFL
    @MisterUnicornFL Місяць тому +7

    722k for a 42'? Screw that.

  • @tomcarr1358
    @tomcarr1358 Місяць тому +1

    A well considered review by Toby spared some to the excess of superlatives others resort to. Always gets my attention regardless of the boat . Bench cockpit lockers look like finger breakers in a sea: dead weight and manual lift only are poor bedfellows.

  • @goolug
    @goolug Місяць тому +12

    It’s kind of like a Sirius DS, except it’s done by a blindfolded teenager: so many questionable storage choises, unnecessary points of failure, clumsy mechanisms and arguably wasted space (while lacking some basic shelving in the master birth). Faux window(?!), guest cabin hatches that open into another cabin and don’t provide ventilation (?!), a hatch that is tucked into a crawl space above the cabinet in the master cabin are all cherries on top of this monstrosity. Definitely unique, but what a mess.

    • @simonjohnson1
      @simonjohnson1 17 днів тому

      It doesn't look very seaworthy either.

  • @JimiJo
    @JimiJo Місяць тому +1

    It’s very Moody DS series though isn’t it?

  • @billhanna5455
    @billhanna5455 Місяць тому

    Was that prop turning under sail , Pity theres not a shaft drive op. , Looked & sailed nice

  • @PN_48
    @PN_48 Місяць тому +6

    A boat - from factory - and the reacher is chafing on the pulpit. Love your videos Toby, but that’s a sloppy setup.

  • @skaraborgcraft
    @skaraborgcraft Місяць тому +3

    Looks like a Sirius DS40 layout, but without the good engine access. Why oh why are people still buying sails that will get shagged by chafe on the pulpit?

  • @viralvideo3739
    @viralvideo3739 14 днів тому +1

    HOW DO YOU CHANGE THAT IMPELLER? UNBOLT THE KEEL? 😂

  • @antoncarmoducchi6057
    @antoncarmoducchi6057 Місяць тому

    Awesome couples ARC rally vessel?

  • @paulgilliland2992
    @paulgilliland2992 Місяць тому +1

    The engine access for servicing the front is terrible. They definitely could have fashioned a removable panel to take off belts and pulleys which will need replacing at some point.

  • @luissergiodutra9572
    @luissergiodutra9572 Місяць тому

    Cada espaço, aproveitado com inteligência.

  • @SlipperyFPV
    @SlipperyFPV Місяць тому

    Love this boat, but I'm sure the price wouldn't love my pocket! 🙈🤭

  • @DefaultUser61
    @DefaultUser61 Місяць тому +6

    Cool boat but it seems like a lamer version of the Moody DS. I haven’t sailed either boat so don’t listen to me

  • @klausbeckmann481
    @klausbeckmann481 29 днів тому +1

    No interior steering. Very low comfort ratio figure and high capsize screening value if you do the maths. Handholds in a seaway? I was electrified when I saw this first (looking for a retirement boat), but on second thoughts, probably not.

  • @DavidCobb-uc4qr
    @DavidCobb-uc4qr Місяць тому +4

    Nice boat. Sorry, over priced. Engine compartment is a complete FAIL! Hard corners either side of owners birth where pillows are is outrageously dangerous I should think. The galley should have a standing bollard or something to lean on while on starboard tact. That flying fiddle at galley is monstrous (to me). Again with the engine,,,,,it appears the engine must be pulled to replace a BELT!!! Surly I am wrong,,,I hope I am wrong. I simply would not go to sea in this boat without overstocking ships stores. With broken belt the electrical system goes down and furlers stop working. Not end of the world but a nuisance I would not pay 3/4 million dollars for. Well done video! I appreciate the effort to open the boat up for such close inspection.

  • @TheGnewb
    @TheGnewb 22 дні тому

    'Preciate the look see, I am not rich and even if were I would not squander the kinda monies for that sailing yachts asking price, and CoO along with maintenance and overhead will cost apleanty more. If they build a 16', 20; or a 22 yeah, I could maybe afford a used one. That is a second house that no one needs and few can afford.

  • @SuspectAccount
    @SuspectAccount Місяць тому +2

    Imagine boats like this with a 150kw LFP battery instead of diesel engine. Then as much solar as you can fit on deck.
    No need to be a mechanic, to stink up the place with fumes, run the onboard electrics on it too. No need of gas cooking...

    • @brianlitz5102
      @brianlitz5102 Місяць тому

      I ageee in principle but the technology is not quite there yet. Ask the Wynn's.

    • @tube_de_siguro
      @tube_de_siguro Місяць тому

      @@brianlitz5102 The wynns literally have a hybrid system that's probably more than just a bit misbuilt. Full-electric is mechanically and electrically much simpler and definitely here. Electric propulsion has been used for years on commercial with some type of seperate generator.

  • @flipsidefreedom
    @flipsidefreedom Місяць тому

    Looks a lot like a Sirius 40DS

  • @goolug
    @goolug Місяць тому +4

    With engine access that miserable might as well just weld the engine bay shut.

    • @brianlitz5102
      @brianlitz5102 Місяць тому

      My thoughts exactly. That engine bay is a complete nightmare.

  • @ryan2manyfishburgh595
    @ryan2manyfishburgh595 Місяць тому +1

    You don't have to suck up to every manufacturer.

  • @juliandivett4244
    @juliandivett4244 22 дні тому

    self tacking jib system looks a big trip hazard.

  • @MariDuru21
    @MariDuru21 Місяць тому

    Great review Toby! Unfortunately this one looks like a Sirius 40DS but with a worst design: no inside piloting, no chart table, super cramped second cabin, no "workshop" room, no option for the 3rd cabin. I have no idea about it's sailing performace and if the boat at least has that going for it. But from the functionality/inventivity perspective... I did not see the "magic". I hope for the designer that there will be a market for this boat!

  • @austinvieth
    @austinvieth Місяць тому

    You've only got to looks at the britcar and bike industry to understand how this has come about. And these days out sourcing to China will eventually bring more company's down. I certainly look at after sales and how problems are dealt with. That's why I got rid of my KTM superduke. I was very disappointed with KTM in Spain.

  • @kibun1
    @kibun1 Місяць тому +2

    Not convincing. Competition offers more. Only the big, wide, flat cockpit is nice. But many functional deficits.

  • @ArturZagaj-Izraelita
    @ArturZagaj-Izraelita Місяць тому

    Pokażesz najlepszy jacht do zamieszkania na nim cały rok- przez wiele lat?
    Wystarczy dla jednej osoby, bo nie znalazłem matki moich dzieci.

  • @kenscrackofdoom599
    @kenscrackofdoom599 10 днів тому

    Nice boat but some serious mistakes in using space. That is not a pilot house if you can not pilot from it. I wouldn't want it. Great review though.

  • @travisbellicchi2238
    @travisbellicchi2238 Місяць тому +1

    Sirius 40 DS for me instead of this

  • @janhbhugo5085
    @janhbhugo5085 Місяць тому

    Nice but is it affordable ? A new boat presentation with a basic starting price does not interest me ! Obviously out of reach for most !

    • @yachtingworld
      @yachtingworld  29 днів тому

      What is affordable with new yachts anymore @janbhugo5085 ?! You have to be a millionaire to buy just about anything new over 40ft these days!

  • @bjn68
    @bjn68 28 днів тому +1

    Looks like a cheap imitation of a Sirius DS 40?...

  • @JohnBobRoger
    @JohnBobRoger Місяць тому

    I remember when the people with that type of accent only sailed on 20 footers! What happened? Where did all of that wealth come from?

  • @louisavondart9178
    @louisavondart9178 Місяць тому

    Quite pretty but very impractible. Cramped engine bay for any kind of maintenance and good luck getting near the rudder stock if an Orca comes to play. Why even bother with a pilot house with zero ability to pilot from it. Not even a chart table. Every sail is going to be a wet one for the helmsman. Plenty of space for spare sails is good because the old ones will chafe out very quickly. That vibration noise is simply shocking. No-one wants that on a passage. But, this boat is a dock queen methinks.

  • @scottaustin2270
    @scottaustin2270 28 днів тому

    Beautiful boat to be sure, but It is certainly no PH. There is no "Pilot" station in that "House". I'm actually insulted by that, as I'm a true PH owner. if the weather goes bad, you're out in it on this boat.
    Pearson 365 PH version (Hull #1 Here). They need to check themselves.

  • @paulfitzgerald1466
    @paulfitzgerald1466 Місяць тому

    Motor access ruins it for me, also a saildrive..

  • @_Briegel
    @_Briegel 28 днів тому

    The yowling below deck and constantly wet deck at the helm with only light winds and short waves, what's the point? THAT is a reason to call such a ship a faulty design. In other words, it's something you'll only ever use in warm regions to move from the harbor to the nearest bay and definitely not for an Atlantic tour.
    What a pity, at first an interesting ship, then again just a residential toilet for harbors or bathing bays.
    And yes, I only watched the misery up to about minute 7, then there were so many disadvantages that I really doubted the boat builders' sanity. Not even a genoa rail (or track? sorry, english is not my native language) on the boat, but then to want to sell that as “innovative and user-friendly” is another slap in the face of a potential customer.

  • @donnydonny7770
    @donnydonny7770 Місяць тому

    Reacher sail? Your not an American Toby, why use American sail terminology?

    • @yachtingworld
      @yachtingworld  Місяць тому +2

      Because that is what the designer and sailmaker, both of whom were aboard, refer to it as and sell it as

  • @carryonsailing
    @carryonsailing Місяць тому

    great ideas, shame they put that worthless engine in it

  • @davidwalker2781
    @davidwalker2781 Місяць тому

    Not A Good Video Result, from toby hodges of yachting world. He "tried" too hard.

  • @philippegaspart3311
    @philippegaspart3311 Місяць тому

    … did you break your nose recently?

    • @yachtingworld
      @yachtingworld  Місяць тому +1

      A couple of times when I was a kid... so no, not recently!

  • @rogerbudney9294
    @rogerbudney9294 15 днів тому

    That’s one ugly boat.

  • @yachticus
    @yachticus Місяць тому

    the pulpit - they have gone for a closed pulpit - where as the newer designs are deliberately opening these up thereby allowing much better flying for the larger headsails
    just a thought

  • @mapleleafbuilders4872
    @mapleleafbuilders4872 Місяць тому +3

    Plenty of room for guests, unless even one of them wants a bunk.
    And engine access...full stop on considering this vessel for off shore sailing for even a moment.
    Imagine trying to purge air from the injectors in a seaway.
    I'm embarrassed on behalf of this designer.