Jesus Christ this set was so good so many stocks of one player completely comboing the other and then they come back from the platform and do the same thing to them back.
I think overall mangos laser game hurt him here. At times he was trying to hard to run back laser, and leffen was in his face the whole game. Lef was killin it with the edgeguards though.
@@tsean1106 yeah, nintendo just hates competitive smash. its a reality that won't change it seems sigh. A strong online implementation would have been so healthy for ultimate, increasing the size of the devoted community immeasurably. its so sad to see a company refuse to let the community have what it wants. its maybe more sad that the community remains loyal despite that.
bonzwah1 it’s ironic about Nintendo not liking competitive so much that they add mechanics that make even casual play less fun overall (this extends from brawl to current smash). Even the rage mechanic in smash 4 was anti competitive and made casual play very janky.
@@tsean1106 I think that likely the game balance team has to juggle many demands and I we're definitely simplifying a more complex issue when we say "nintendo doesn't like competitive smash" cuz there is clearly some drive to make a balanced and mechanically deep game. likely there are people on the team that care very much about the same things that the competitive community cares about. some might even actively like or advocate for the competitive aspect of smash. its just clear also that there exists a big influence that runs counter to competitive concerns. so yeah you're right that they send mixed messages with their decision making, but as long as there remains this heavy anti-competitive influence, then no smash will ever really deliver on a product that is fully satisfying. in this case, I really think the actual game is pretty good, but the online just prevents average joe from ever being able to engage in an amateur competitive experience that most multiplayer titles these days provide, and that ruins the entire game for someone like me (average joe gamer)
not a fan of the other commentator. Doesn't really add anything and feels like im listening to a reaction video on you tube rather than receiving insight on the players moves.
@@croixfadas Fair enough, I just wanted a little bit more back and forth in the commentary rather than.. yeahh, and him asking wobbles, "right?" I had to mute GF just because i'd rather listen to dreamland commentate on the match versus this guy. Otherwise. props to wizzrobe.
It's crazy how even these two are in lifetime sets. 12-12 in sets, 49 - 49 in games.
Where'd you get those stats?
Ethan Violette they aren’t anymore it’s 13-12 in mangos favor. They were even in the last big house where mango won then he beat leffen again at goml.
@@horizon1132 but since leffen won now wouldn't that mean they are 13-13, correct me if I'm wrong
Just Aaron I don’t think so because mango was 14-12 against leffen before this tourney. Due to their big house and goml sets
Tyler Cloke Yeah thats the message I was trying to convey
Wins goml and then gets 7th
Classic mang0
THE NATURAL MANG0
he just needs to give in and play fox against Amsa and Hbox, if he played fox in the yoshi matchup he could have actually finished stocks before 200%
MISTA!
@@kiirbstomp mang0 falco v hbox could work well mang0 is good against puff and hbox isnt as proficient with falco. Amsa definitely needs the fox tho
hes playing suboptimally so everyone sleeps on him again to unlock his win condition
its called playing the long game, scrub
3:56 Top 10 69% moments
Crazy to think this is a losers 8ths match
Mango did say he'll either get 1st or 7th
Did he really?
@@sirmatic2776 he said that before winning Goml
8:00 Never seen such crisp Fox movement... Leffen's nuts
Mango (Falco) vs Leffen (Fox) has to be the greatest matchup in the entire melee history. Every time it's a blast. EVERY TIME.
Leffen tellin mang0 to stay in the laundry for a re-wash
They just keep getting better and the pace is always faster it's awesome to watch and awe at lol
Jesus Christ this set was so good so many stocks of one player completely comboing the other and then they come back from the platform and do the same thing to them back.
GOML 2019 was simply an intermission. This is Leffen, Big Leff.
Big Leff not big enough for the Wizzrod.
I think overall mangos laser game hurt him here. At times he was trying to hard to run back laser, and leffen was in his face the whole game. Lef was killin it with the edgeguards though.
Why doesn't this video work I keep getting something went wrong
You gotta use ambui-giddy
-Mang0 2019
Video isn't loading for me while others aren
my dude HMW was stuck on commentary when he just wanted to watch a dope set
You gotta carry that weight
Who’s the commentator w hmw?
Wobbles former ICs player
Kind of sad to see leffen quit ultimate but he is best in melee
Chowder06 a lot of potential for ultimate but too many simple changes to be needed that can massively improve it ect buffer and online
@@tsean1106 yeah, nintendo just hates competitive smash. its a reality that won't change it seems sigh. A strong online implementation would have been so healthy for ultimate, increasing the size of the devoted community immeasurably. its so sad to see a company refuse to let the community have what it wants. its maybe more sad that the community remains loyal despite that.
bonzwah1 it’s ironic about Nintendo not liking competitive so much that they add mechanics that make even casual play less fun overall (this extends from brawl to current smash). Even the rage mechanic in smash 4 was anti competitive and made casual play very janky.
@@tsean1106 I think that likely the game balance team has to juggle many demands and I we're definitely simplifying a more complex issue when we say "nintendo doesn't like competitive smash" cuz there is clearly some drive to make a balanced and mechanically deep game.
likely there are people on the team that care very much about the same things that the competitive community cares about. some might even actively like or advocate for the competitive aspect of smash. its just clear also that there exists a big influence that runs counter to competitive concerns.
so yeah you're right that they send mixed messages with their decision making, but as long as there remains this heavy anti-competitive influence, then no smash will ever really deliver on a product that is fully satisfying.
in this case, I really think the actual game is pretty good, but the online just prevents average joe from ever being able to engage in an amateur competitive experience that most multiplayer titles these days provide, and that ruins the entire game for someone like me (average joe gamer)
What do you mean? Melee is fully satisfying, competitively viable, has a good online system, and can still be played casually well.
Leffens expressions look like he is on more then one Line of Coke or some sort of ampfetamine x__x
That's just the swede
6:23
Leffen looked insanely good here..how the hell did he lose to a falcon??
before*
the same way the best player in the world lost to a falcon in multiple sets
This is the Mango/Leffen I wanna see
he asked leffen to beat him and he got it
Leffen played siiiiiick
WestBallz
Mang0's back baby!
not a fan of the other commentator. Doesn't really add anything and feels like im listening to a reaction video on you tube rather than receiving insight on the players moves.
Because thats his role, duo commentator works like that one reactionary guy, and one analytical guy.
Brett Kinsey I liked him but to each his own
@@croixfadas Fair enough, I just wanted a little bit more back and forth in the commentary rather than.. yeahh, and him asking wobbles, "right?" I had to mute GF just because i'd rather listen to dreamland commentate on the match versus this guy. Otherwise. props to wizzrobe.
That's HomeMadeWaffles and you're out of your goddamned fucking mind.
dont kill op because of his take lmao. i love hmw myself.
Sometimes ya gotta hold that L, Mango
mango4stock
Hey look, another Falco vs Fox
Melee is the best smash bros to watch amirite
I mean yeah, anymore questions?
This but unironically
request for the commentator.. stop saying "UUUUGHHHH"
mang0 washed
He just fucking won a super major you fuck
Smash Tournaments
Lmaoooooo
Smash Tournaments the last major he won before that was super smash con 2017... the guy took about 20 L’s
first
Lol Melee looks so boring nowadays.
Low quality bait