It is likely that this new station will keep a relatively limited traffic for different reasons: (1) If you draw a circle centered on it and that could more or less correspond to its catchment area, you quickly see that 1/4 of the circle is empty (corresponding to the Bois de Boulogne). (2) The station is located just next to the Palais des Congres (Paris main exhibition center), which will attract people only from time to time when big events occur there. The rest of the time it's largely empty. (3) The station is built just at the limit between Paris proper and its suburbs. This border is marked by the wide and polluted "Peripherique" motorway. On the other side of the Peripherique lies the very posh suburb of Neuilly. People living there are often very wealthy and either they have big cars with dedicated drivers or they will take the subway line 1 (and not the RER), which has several stations inside Neuilly without forcing them to walk and breathe the polluted air of the Peripherique to catch the RER E (Moreover the subway allows for a more precise service than the RER. (4) This new RER station is built a few hundreds of meters away from the much more central Charles de Gaulle Etoile combined RER/subway station and therefore still lies within its much more attractive catchment area. It is therefore likely that if people have the choice between Neuilly Porte Maillot and Charles de Gaulle Etoile, the vast majority of them will go to Charles de Gaulle Etoile. Am I questioning the legitimacy of this new station? Absolutely not! It's great to have built it there. Moreover, since there was a clear need for an extension of the RER E towards la Defense and Mantes la Jolie, the chosen itinerary of the line makes much more sense than the original project through Pont Cardinet and Levallois. It would also have been a bit dumb to go without any stop between Haussmann and La Defense. So all in all, building this station made total sense. I know that it is still very new and at the moment the service is very poor. The number of people who use it will necessarily increase; however, I am pretty sure that it will stabilize at a value that will be probably an order of magnitude lower than Charles de Gaulle Etoile. This is no more than an intermediate stop surrounded by much more strategic ones at Magenta, Haussmann, La Defense and Nanterre
Thank you very much for this analysis, which I also agree with in every respect. I think it will find its audience again in the future, especially with the connection to RER C. Between Porte Maillot and Charles de Gaulle Etoile, there's only a 3-minute journey on metro 1 (apart from the very long connecting corridors): I also think that if passengers have a choice, they'd rather go to Etoile than Maillot. However, it seems that Porte Maillot wasn't designed to be a great success: you can see that the station's platforms aren't very wide, which suggests that ridership will be moderate.
Le son dans le tunnel du RER NG est 🔥🔥🔥🔥.
J’adore 😍🔥
Belle vidéo BillyFlorian RER E À Porte Maillot
It is likely that this new station will keep a relatively limited traffic for different reasons:
(1) If you draw a circle centered on it and that could more or less correspond to its catchment area, you quickly see that 1/4 of the circle is empty (corresponding to the Bois de Boulogne).
(2) The station is located just next to the Palais des Congres (Paris main exhibition center), which will attract people only from time to time when big events occur there. The rest of the time it's largely empty.
(3) The station is built just at the limit between Paris proper and its suburbs. This border is marked by the wide and polluted "Peripherique" motorway. On the other side of the Peripherique lies the very posh suburb of Neuilly. People living there are often very wealthy and either they have big cars with dedicated drivers or they will take the subway line 1 (and not the RER), which has several stations inside Neuilly without forcing them to walk and breathe the polluted air of the Peripherique to catch the RER E (Moreover the subway allows for a more precise service than the RER.
(4) This new RER station is built a few hundreds of meters away from the much more central Charles de Gaulle Etoile combined RER/subway station and therefore still lies within its much more attractive catchment area. It is therefore likely that if people have the choice between Neuilly Porte Maillot and Charles de Gaulle Etoile, the vast majority of them will go to Charles de Gaulle Etoile.
Am I questioning the legitimacy of this new station? Absolutely not! It's great to have built it there. Moreover, since there was a clear need for an extension of the RER E towards la Defense and Mantes la Jolie, the chosen itinerary of the line makes much more sense than the original project through Pont Cardinet and Levallois. It would also have been a bit dumb to go without any stop between Haussmann and La Defense. So all in all, building this station made total sense.
I know that it is still very new and at the moment the service is very poor. The number of people who use it will necessarily increase; however, I am pretty sure that it will stabilize at a value that will be probably an order of magnitude lower than Charles de Gaulle Etoile. This is no more than an intermediate stop surrounded by much more strategic ones at Magenta, Haussmann, La Defense and Nanterre
Thank you very much for this analysis, which I also agree with in every respect. I think it will find its audience again in the future, especially with the connection to RER C.
Between Porte Maillot and Charles de Gaulle Etoile, there's only a 3-minute journey on metro 1 (apart from the very long connecting corridors): I also think that if passengers have a choice, they'd rather go to Etoile than Maillot.
However, it seems that Porte Maillot wasn't designed to be a great success: you can see that the station's platforms aren't very wide, which suggests that ridership will be moderate.
Vidéo top,c'est curieux ce luminaire qui fait balancier sur le quai d'en face.
J’adore
1:41 la traction à grincer on dirait 😂🔊
Impressive station. 0:20 Are those lights swaying? 😁🤔🤨
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