We had the same condensation issues in our old yacht, when we upgraded we bought an etap which has a double skin with insulating foam between. Also apparently unsinkable. Absolutely love it , it stays cool in the summer and is warm in the winter😁
We looked at an Etap the same week we looked at Salty Lass and we were horrified at all the storage spaces that had foam in them. We never thought of it as insulation but I can see how that would work. The boat was also older and less well maintained but that is not the fault of the boat. I have only seen a couple of them since and I am sure that one of them is the one we looked at in Scotland. Nonetheless, an interesting boat. Thanks for commenting
Just came across your vid on the insulation. Had a similar experience on my boat with condensation and ended up using some similar reflective insulation. I first started using the 5mm version, but did not fix the condensation problem. It took a minimum of 10mm for freezing or below used 15mm where possible. Could not tell if you insulate behind the headliner, I found that there was a lot of condensation forming here, and worse mould was forming on the rear of the headliner in some locations. Over two years I removed all the headliners and insulated behind them all. Huge difference, only problem is now the diesel heater is overpowered and now runs at minimum most of the time and soots up. Fix one problem create another.
Our headlining is layered. The deck is foam cored, then an air space then fibreglass and finally the plywood sheets with foam- backed vinyl. They never get cold in winter so we did not bother putting anything behind them. I completely agree on thickness. The 10mm stuff worked better than the 8mm but even the 8mm made a big difference. We have lived aboard for two winters and been very comfortable. As for thr diesel heater, maybe keep a hatch open? We find it helps eliminate moisture by carrying damp air away and lets the heater run a bit hotter for part of the day which seems to help.
@@SailingYachtSaltyLass Ah, my deck is solid, also with air gap and then mostly solid lining, so got very cold. One point on the Wabasco, which was installed by the factory (Beneteau), they took the intake air directly from the locker it was mounted in. A definite no no according to the manual, so I installed a recycle line with a Y diverter valve so can use recycled warm air or fresh, can control the volume of fresh air using the valve. Also reduced fuel consumption considerable. I normally have a dehumidifier running most of the winter as well. Like you am now dry and warm in the winter. Noticed you also have a Volvo Penta, looks the same as on my boat, which corroded thorough the side of the heat exchanger after only 900hrs, blowing exhaust fumes into the bilges. Cost £5k to get fixed. After this I fitted a fresh water flushing tank/mixer line to the raw seawater intake and flush the whole system through after every sail. A very cheap mid to save a lot of problems down the road, apparently a flushing system are an option from Volvo and common in the USA.
The more I find out about engines, the more I worry about them. Last year we had the starter motor needing service, the exhaust elbow blew and the seals in the impeller housing replaced. The heat exchanger seems to be the next big item. I have noticed that breaker's yards for boats are going online. They might do a roaring trade in things like heat exchangers. With the Penta being a rebadged Perkins, I think I would be looking to Perkins for parts.... Thanks for the info
nice one gals on Salty lass, I am just looking at one of those ebay 5kw diesel heaters. were did you get the roll of insulate, it looks good stuff, i think i read some were to just insulate above the water line ????? great work lads FAIR WIND T.J.
Hi TJ - The insulation came from Kiravans and is 8mm, but someone has told me 10mm at a similar price from vandemon.co.uk so we might get some of that as we have a few spots that still need doing.
We had the same condensation issues in our old yacht, when we upgraded we bought an etap which has a double skin with insulating foam between. Also apparently unsinkable. Absolutely love it , it stays cool in the summer and is warm in the winter😁
We looked at an Etap the same week we looked at Salty Lass and we were horrified at all the storage spaces that had foam in them. We never thought of it as insulation but I can see how that would work. The boat was also older and less well maintained but that is not the fault of the boat.
I have only seen a couple of them since and I am sure that one of them is the one we looked at in Scotland. Nonetheless, an interesting boat. Thanks for commenting
@@SailingYachtSaltyLass I bought my etap 32i from troon marric
Just came across your vid on the insulation. Had a similar experience on my boat with condensation and ended up using some similar reflective insulation. I first started using the 5mm version, but did not fix the condensation problem. It took a minimum of 10mm for freezing or below used 15mm where possible. Could not tell if you insulate behind the headliner, I found that there was a lot of condensation forming here, and worse mould was forming on the rear of the headliner in some locations. Over two years I removed all the headliners and insulated behind them all. Huge difference, only problem is now the diesel heater is overpowered and now runs at minimum most of the time and soots up. Fix one problem create another.
Our headlining is layered. The deck is foam cored, then an air space then fibreglass and finally the plywood sheets with foam- backed vinyl. They never get cold in winter so we did not bother putting anything behind them.
I completely agree on thickness. The 10mm stuff worked better than the 8mm but even the 8mm made a big difference. We have lived aboard for two winters and been very comfortable.
As for thr diesel heater, maybe keep a hatch open? We find it helps eliminate moisture by carrying damp air away and lets the heater run a bit hotter for part of the day which seems to help.
@@SailingYachtSaltyLass Ah, my deck is solid, also with air gap and then mostly solid lining, so got very cold.
One point on the Wabasco, which was installed by the factory (Beneteau), they took the intake air directly from the locker it was mounted in. A definite no no according to the manual, so I installed a recycle line with a Y diverter valve so can use recycled warm air or fresh, can control the volume of fresh air using the valve. Also reduced fuel consumption considerable. I normally have a dehumidifier running most of the winter as well. Like you am now dry and warm in the winter.
Noticed you also have a Volvo Penta, looks the same as on my boat, which corroded thorough the side of the heat exchanger after only 900hrs, blowing exhaust fumes into the bilges. Cost £5k to get fixed. After this I fitted a fresh water flushing tank/mixer line to the raw seawater intake and flush the whole system through after every sail. A very cheap mid to save a lot of problems down the road, apparently a flushing system are an option from Volvo and common in the USA.
The more I find out about engines, the more I worry about them. Last year we had the starter motor needing service, the exhaust elbow blew and the seals in the impeller housing replaced. The heat exchanger seems to be the next big item.
I have noticed that breaker's yards for boats are going online. They might do a roaring trade in things like heat exchangers. With the Penta being a rebadged Perkins, I think I would be looking to Perkins for parts....
Thanks for the info
Shared all your videos about ebspracher with brother in law so he can take care of his D2 on Erne waterways. Thanks
Thanks. I hope he finds it helpful.
Use disposable nappies. That soaks up water. My etap is insulated so not a problem but still use nappies
We do make use of them - we even have a Tescos nappy in the video!
When I had that problem it was the glow plug screen that was blocked. Cheap fix but a pain to get the old one out
The ebers are great when they work, but they are such a pain when they do not. I hope you are snug and warm now. Thanks for the comment.
nice one gals on Salty lass, I am just looking at one of those ebay 5kw diesel heaters. were did you get the roll of insulate, it looks good stuff, i think i read some were to just insulate above the water line ????? great work lads FAIR WIND T.J.
Hi TJ - The insulation came from Kiravans and is 8mm, but someone has told me 10mm at a similar price from vandemon.co.uk so we might get some of that as we have a few spots that still need doing.
Can u tell me where I can get hold of that kind of sticky back insulation please?
There should be links in the description. It was either Kiravans.co.uk or vandemon.co.uk but we recommend 10mm or thicker