Caught in the Mindstate (Excerpt)
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2023
- Adya describes the human condition of getting caught up in the dream state of our ego consciousness, or the “wheel of samsara,” and how we can’t think our way out of it. Excerpted from October 22, 2008, Palo Alto Meeting, “Getting Beyond Ego”: bit.ly/3N5f9i8
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Quote from this Video: “A great way to be really caught in the dream state is to try to get out of being caught in that dream state.” adyashanti.org
"Ego's highest game is to try to get out of ego" Awesome
The greatest explanation I've heard....How many of us are on a spiritual path and are doing excatly what he describes...❤
Danke Adya ❤ so wunderbar, Danke genau das brauchte ich gerade
As Mark Twain put it: It Ain’t What You Don’t Know That Gets You Into Trouble. It’s What You Know for Sure That Just Ain’t So.
Thank you Adyashanti! 🙏🌹 Had a couple of good laughs in recognizing myself caught in that trap, it is so crazy ! 😌
Me ha encantado!!! Muchísimas gracias!!!❤🙏😊
Adya ❤❤❤
The great Tao is the mind, it is in constant motion.
And perpetual stillness.
Almost all people spend thier life getting in their own way tied up in sense perceptions never realising thier true nature they walk about like hungry ghosts.
If they ever woke up and almost all people would swear that they are awake they would come to the realisation that they were fast asleep
"he's talking about everybody else but not me" - next part of the talk 😉😁🥰
Between lucid dreams and glimpses of Oneness (short awakenings wherein ego resumed the illusion of control)
I had the connection that Awakening was to live lucidly!
When you dream… what’s not you?
When you dream… what’s not your fault?
When you dream… are there any mistakes? 🙃
❤
thank you!
thank you. May you be blessed.
Are there good days and bad days? All I know is that everything is the way it's supposed to be.
@fedup, I don’t accept “supposed to be.” World and universe is full of chaos. We most often confuse coincidence with intent. Yes, the magic power to do miracles is called coincidence. Lol.
The soul awareness never changes. Good and bad are judgement of mind.everything’s as is! Bless u🙏🏼❤️
There are certainly pleasant and unpleasant experiences.
Some foods I like, some I don’t.
Some experiences the mind and or body likes, some it doesn’t right?
What’s beyond both and or before both?
We are right? Or “I Am.”
Yes, everything is exactly as it should be, if it were supposed to be different it would be.
All the world is but a stage, it’s men and women merely actors.
We have no individual power or control here.
There is no me or you anyway.
Most people identify as the ego or mind structure as being who they are. Some believe they are the body.
We are neither of these tho right?
So what are we?
That’s the great question innit it?
@@cps_Zen_Runall chaos is still adhering to very specific and immutable laws and rules, all the down to cellular level.
the entire universe and everything in it is made of exactly the same material which most of us call consciousness, which is made of protons, electrons etc following precise laws.
That’s why free will is an absurd notion. Protons, neutrons and electrons all MUST abide by very specific laws. The ocean must ocean, the sun must sun, the trees, bees and butterflies must do exactly as they do and yet humans think they have some special powers that allows them to make choices about what they do.
It’s hilarious.
You can choose what you will do but you cannot choose what you will choose.
That is done about 7 seconds ahead of time. It’s been documented, recorded and verified in testing.
Scientists were able to accurately predict the choices the person being tested would make 7 seconds before they made the choices.
Incredible.
Exactly how I see it. And it gives me great peace. Thank you.
Thank you Adya, Love you
Adya gives the clearest and most profound explanations I have ever heard about spirituality. He is brilliant. Thank you so much for these video treasures 🙏🏻❤️
Which form of consciousness does one take when studying?
OMG thank you, thank you that’s me all over 😂
🌹🌹🌹🙏🙏🙏
Those who have "intimate experience of how (their) mind works" will never become aware of how "trapped their consciousness is in their mind state" this notion is a consequence of not having understood the essential point of mind.
@@720scremastered how wonderful I am so happy for you. I hope you can remain strong and resolute and find the peace you are looking for. You have done well
Yes, because the witness consciousness is mind too. We perpetuate the dualistic nature of the mind. But it is a useful technique to start with that can work for some. Like a wooden stick (witness) is used to stir a fire (mind) The fire consumes the mind and the stick eventually.
Hmmm...and who understands the essential point of mind? Isn't that the mind too? Same trap. I would say either there is mind or no-mind. You can't miss no-mind. Which means , all the other time is mind. This is no problem - mind or no-mind. Same thing. Both content of awareness. The absence of mind is still mind. The pauses in a song are part of the song. Both is called music. The pauses in mind are part of the song of life. Music is called "god" , "awareness", our true nature.
@@burnalog7861 My point doesn't concern concepts about whether there is mind or not or how one might posit the existence of things like consciousness and awareness. The point I am trying to make is much more direct- someone who has investigated the appearance of their own mind, whether that be thoughts or consciousness or any of the other things you refer to, having gained insight about these things, will not make say their "consciousness is trapped in their mind-state." This is conceptual imputation that doesn't reflect any visceral experience that one might have. But don't take it from me, check it out for yourself. See if you can find a consciousness trapped inside a mind state.
The relationship of thoughts to feelings and emotions is inverse:
Feelings and emotions are translated into thoughts and not thoughts into feelings and emotions.
It can be either way. Just read a sad novel (thought) and eventually you will feel it.
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Emotions want to experience themselves using the thought process and imagination and not the other way around.
Emotions are impulsive reactions to sensory experiences and also to their memory. Thoughts or more precisely thinking are the way to communicate sense experiences (psychological experiences too). So when you read a novel the word you read creates in your imagination the situation they describe. And this situation is associated with certain emotions. So, through reading we live virtually the sense experience which is always associated and experienced together with some emotional reaction.
So,.thoughts or thinking work as a means to live a sensory experience and the emotion/s related to it.
So, thoughts do not create emotions but function more as activators.
Now, if we have dissolved the anger related to a sense-experience no matter how much we think about this anger will not arise in us.
Another example, if you think exactly the same in another language that you do not speak then thoughts will not activate emotions since ther is not any association of these thought-sounds with the emotions.
Emotions are innate in our psyche, but thoughts is something we have learned.
So, babies express emotions although they have not thoughts. That means the emotions do not depend on thinking. Gradually as we grow and we learn to speak and think emotions associate with certain thoughts or thought patterns which can activate emotions. However, once emotions are activated by some thought or thought pattern the whole thinking process is maintained and coloured by the emotional state.
Finally thinking has meaning to us because of desire (which is emotive in nature) and emotions.
So the underlying cause of thinking is always desire or an emotion.
Why do you want, for example to watch a movie or reads a novel? Because you want (desire) to live emotions.
So always behind our thinking, behaviour and actions is desire or emotion.
Like being in a spiders web ...the more you struggle the more entangled we get. ..Don't struggle. .accept.... Accept that we get in the spiders web ...As Eckhart Tolle .says........"What we accept we go beyond ".....Good luck everyone...
"Chinese finger puzzles" I've often had that observation myself.
I don't understand... Reverse the process?
Ego trying to get out of ego. Literally me lolllll
Though ,,allow" as Is= also a mindstate...just annother perspective...experience...concept....even its maybe more relaxing.
Truth can not really be spoken...its beyond all mental plays in Reality and there is no real how or good or bad= all illussions...felt a bit realistc...through all the senses.
So what is the solution ? :)
Solve et coagula
Find out ‘who’ wants to know… nissrgadatta would say.
The solution he says is "Allowing everything to be as it is," he speaks about this a lot on other videos and his books.
I, too, would like to be reminded of how to allow. It's been a while since I watched or read his books.
No solution thats thinking in time thats the Dream State hard to take in that you are already home😊
@@TinybirdPaulineWhich is really useless advice because somebody gotta pay the rent. Maybe better advice is just take care of your shit and live your life.
You're separating the mind and Is-ness. Is-ness is the root of thought - boundless Being.
This is a kind of horrible news.
That’s what I thought lol . Bad and then gracious goes the ghost of us . Great now we just get to let go of everything . Much to do about nothing . We need do nothing and yet my identity is wrapped up in doing something. This is where gods grace shall gracefully give wisdom . I have to hope because the ego is futile .radical surrender and acceptance.