FBP Podcast episode #29 - Disneyland Phased Reopening - only at the Halfway Point?

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  • @DannyD714
    @DannyD714 2 роки тому +2

    one of the best reimaginings of an attraction for me is the finale of big thunder. from an earthquake with fake falling rocks to an exploding mines shaft...kaboom! nailed it!

  • @jacobdecarli
    @jacobdecarli 2 роки тому +17

    To think Disneyland operated for sixty plus years without park reservations but now reservations are "essential" to operations. I would consider purchasing five new keys if reservations were done away with.

    • @davidhalcon5594
      @davidhalcon5594 2 роки тому +1

      Reservations are here to stay. Unfortunately this is not1985 with no reservations and AP ran a muck! They now can staff better and order food better knowing how many guests will be at the park.

  • @lindamemo5224
    @lindamemo5224 2 роки тому +11

    Turnover hurt Disney a lot. People who were older truly loved that park worked there because of that Disney pride and love. Not sure the younger new hires get that.

  • @ihearttea14
    @ihearttea14 2 роки тому +1

    You are so right about the cast members. When we were there in February you could tell who was new. They seemed to know how to run the rides but but not with the same Disney magic. The problem is that the older cast members who have been there for awhile grew up in a time where you could buy a house for cheap and survive on a lower wage. They really need to pay the cast members more to retain people .

  • @meganarenas6107
    @meganarenas6107 2 роки тому +10

    Love the podcast! Please don't stop
    Both of you are so enjoyable together. No drama. Just nice conversation

  • @debbiehinrichs1068
    @debbiehinrichs1068 2 роки тому

    Great Podcast. You Guys make a good team , both have your own unique view on things .Thanks

  • @zeroconsequences
    @zeroconsequences 2 роки тому +4

    The Matterhorn already has a movie. Third Man on The Mountain was made in 1958 and released a year later. Disney was filming in Switzerland when Walt sent back pictures of the mountain and told WED to build one for him.

  • @shelleyabbott9897
    @shelleyabbott9897 2 роки тому +2

    I really like this show the two of you are doing. Thanks

  • @ematuskey
    @ematuskey 2 роки тому +6

    Former SoCal native who's now an out-of-state visitor here: as someone who, at one point, made 3-5 visits to the park every year, the old Deluxe AP was an /amazing/ value. The new stuff not so much--especially since I'm less likely to make that many trips nowadays. The new versions seem much more useful for locals--which were their original intended use anyway, I suppose.
    I do still miss Maxpass though--Genie+ is a much tougher value proposition for me.

  • @jmwaters1208
    @jmwaters1208 2 роки тому +5

    2023 for Disney Parks? Runaway Railway and fresh Toon Town in spring at Disneyland. Fully completed refresh at Epcot. They will probably announce new projects soon for Fall 23.

  • @OrangeGrove55
    @OrangeGrove55 2 роки тому +1

    Interesting take in terms of 'buying themselves time'...it's a great point and honestly makes alot of sense.

  • @grammasworld
    @grammasworld 2 роки тому +2

    The Buena Vista Street refurb finally brought Walt into that park and it made all the difference. (BTW, my BIL grew up in Orange County and he felt like the original captured the OC of his youth. He loved it.)

  • @agentXphoenix
    @agentXphoenix 2 роки тому +1

    A Space Mountain film AND a Matterhorn film! Good choices, lads! I'd watch both.😁

  • @Charlie-vt6yv
    @Charlie-vt6yv 2 роки тому

    Davids right that disneyland pre pandemic was great. The difference is Chapek wasnt in charge then and now we’re seeing the devastating effects he’s causing that might be irreversible damage if he isn’t replaced soon

  • @DestinationsChronicles
    @DestinationsChronicles 2 роки тому +4

    Yay, two of my favorite people back on the air!!

  • @jaysonpida5379
    @jaysonpida5379 2 роки тому +2

    Smart statement from Mr. Potrock ---it's more about the 'park math', creating 'breathing' space with park projects and internal department structures (the 'Imagineering' department has been 'pulled' apart---it's gonna take time to re-establish 'firm' footing) AND ToonTown >> all comes 'together' in another 'year'.

  • @ScanFan_Ed
    @ScanFan_Ed 2 роки тому +7

    “We are going to get double the Disney we have now” equals/AKA “We are going to pack a TON more people in!” 😥

    • @oneoverboard
      @oneoverboard 2 роки тому +2

      “And charge you double the current prices”

  • @LabRat1970
    @LabRat1970 2 роки тому

    I like the updates to Matterhorn, but I liked the old toboggans better. They were nice when you had children who were nervous about the ride, you could have them sit right in front of you.

  • @Alex-fr2xb
    @Alex-fr2xb 2 роки тому +3

    Quote of the month from David, "Chapek is trying to finesse the system to squeeze every penny of revenue out of everything that they forgot how to be good at their jobs"

  • @zeroconsequences
    @zeroconsequences 2 роки тому +7

    People who complain that there's not enough "representation" in the parks must have grew up in an era where they didn't see Eisner's hip hop beat box Splash Mt commercials or before that, the World Showcase parades with every nation from Mexico to Greece dancing down Main Street. They're not seeing representation because they've chosen to remain blind to it. Some have made it impossible for representation to be 'perfected' and the company doesn't want to get into hot water by making mistakes.
    On a further note, they don't see themselves represented because they don't think of themselves as American. Disneyland epitomizes the quintessential American experience.

    • @lddcavalry
      @lddcavalry 2 роки тому +3

      It's really about virtue signaling and it's sad he thinks it's beautiful . Idols and heroes shouldn't need a skin color.

  • @beanking5432
    @beanking5432 2 роки тому +9

    1:10:07 I like how everyone just assumes Song of the South is racist without actually watching the movie

    • @davidhalcon5594
      @davidhalcon5594 2 роки тому +2

      So true! Leave Splash Mountain alone! Give the princess and the frog it’s own ride, not a re-themed one.

  • @jcool0122
    @jcool0122 2 роки тому +3

    For the last couple of months I've been listening to the podcast on Spotify, so when I turned it on and saw Ron's background, I thought he was doing the podcast from the park for a second.

  • @tennesseeturner
    @tennesseeturner 2 роки тому +1

    Just returned from Magic Kingdom. Although my favorite is Disneyland, I did find some favorable things at MK. The Pirates queue was one of those things. I think that I could design a similar lower level covered queue at ground level. Traffic could still flow into Adventureland to the side of this open air breezeway queue building or on top of the building, where there could be a garden and wide passageway. Think of the top level as just a wider bridge than what existed. Think of underneath as the queue with pirate cave motif.

  • @robertjones1729
    @robertjones1729 2 роки тому

    Hey..I played with those valves controlling the water sprouts in the bathroom of a future when I was a child!

  • @disneylandlove507
    @disneylandlove507 2 роки тому

    As a former annual passholder from out of state, I would love if they would make the best pass include parking and Genie plus… pass it along!

  • @ALLiiive
    @ALLiiive 2 роки тому

    Ride that needs a movie THUNDER MOUNTAIN ... western cowboy theme featuring a runaway train with the same characteristics and sounds and the goat and train station - the whole set up in a movie and its about a real train that somehow speeds up and then at some point someone say " if you are wearing hats or glasses , best remove them cause .. this here is the wildest ride in the wilderness "

  • @AllanBProductions
    @AllanBProductions 2 роки тому +2

    That silence in the beginning.

    • @WindowtotheMagic
      @WindowtotheMagic 2 роки тому +1

      The out of sync audio at 4:02 caught us off guard, too. Quality issues might be one big reason that David is hiring editors. That would have been an easy fix in post, but he just doesn’t have the time to do it himself.
      Solid podcast content-wise, tho. Super enjoyable!

  • @virginialake5080
    @virginialake5080 2 роки тому +1

    Not saying Fresh Baked when Ronnie was expecting it was a good April Fools. 😁Another good podcast! 👍

  • @kentslocum
    @kentslocum 2 роки тому +1

    It's true that Bob Chapek isn't personally nit-picking menu items and micro-managing details, but he sets the tone for the entire Disney organization, and since he has prioritized profit over people, that's what trickles down into the evoryday decisions by resort presidents, managers, and cast members.

  • @iamtheomnimonkey
    @iamtheomnimonkey 2 роки тому

    I agree that reservations aren't a problem. The problem is how they are being used/managed.

  • @fh6034
    @fh6034 2 роки тому

    Could be a set up spin job. Right now no toontown, no pirates, no treehouse, no Nemo, no shows, no parade, no top two magic keys. One year from now all that will be back, look how much we have done and we are fully back.

  • @solarwhale
    @solarwhale 2 роки тому

    From a few mid level management friends I know. They have 30,000 headcount but a much higher percentage of part time employees not FTEs.

  • @ChrisS-mj6ux
    @ChrisS-mj6ux 2 роки тому

    Referencing when you mention cast members around the 23 min mark, you both commented on how the Disney company would be better off paying more to get castmembers to stay longer.
    Though I'm sure that would help some cast members stay longer, I don't think overall the metric is better for them because they're in an industry that will naturally have a high turnover. It's sorta like fast food, a lot of people, perhaps a decent majority, are only taking the job temporarily. They know this, they've decided this, it's a college or post-college temporary gig. No matter how you slice it, a large percentage will always be a cycle of this, and raising the pay (depending on how high) will likely have a minimal impact.
    Secondly, if we believe that Unions are in the best interest of employees, and they help in getting them top dollar for their labor... then I believe the recent contract is a result of the Union squeezing out the maximum possible for the value of the labor. A lot of the positions like attractions, foods, outdoor vending, and custodial, require mostly entry level experience. Most of the tasks are assembly-line style, requiring minimal expertise.
    I'm not knocking on castmembers, I used to be one for 5 years while I was in college, I'm just saying the wages should be considered fair since the CM have a union and everyone agreed to them. Wasn't long ago Bernie Sanders was along side the unions asking for $15 per hour, now many positions are at $17.

  • @LaurieSF
    @LaurieSF 2 роки тому +2

    For whatever reason, your podcasts always end too soon for me. You both provide great insight and have complimentary views. Always fun to listen to!

  • @ohplezz
    @ohplezz 2 роки тому +6

    Team Disney Anaheim to customers: "If you don't expect too much from us, you might not be let down".

  • @Nightfall69
    @Nightfall69 2 роки тому +4

    Disneyland will never be the same when Maynard retires. No one can replace him.

  • @mommymaureen
    @mommymaureen 2 роки тому

    I think they mean they're only about halfway of the pre-pandemic crowds. They're completely aggravated that the crowds have not returned and that is totally self inflicted because of the ridiculous reservation system. They are keeping passholders out and they really believed passholders would cough up even more money for one day tickets. That backfired spectacularly. Very few willing to do that.

    • @davidhalcon5594
      @davidhalcon5594 2 роки тому

      The park is packed. Locals don’t matter. As long as the park is filled, it doesn’t matter where guests come from

  • @katecamellia
    @katecamellia 2 роки тому +1

    Hi muffins!

  • @missdtravels1446
    @missdtravels1446 2 роки тому +2

    I’m disappointed in the direction Disney has gone. They lost Walt’s vision, it’s no longer magical.

  • @lestat964
    @lestat964 2 роки тому +4

    Maynard wasnt entirely a one sided decision, and Ernie "Gunny" (flag retreat) was teminated last month. They are pushing some out for sure.

    • @WindowtotheMagic
      @WindowtotheMagic 2 роки тому +1

      Do you have a link to anywhere where I can get more information on this situation? Gunny is awesome and I’d enjoy any further details. Thanks!

    • @lestat964
      @lestat964 2 роки тому

      @@WindowtotheMagic youtube is removing links i provide to you here. But there is a face book group called "i support the disneyland flag retreat ceremony", it has alot of info on it. Theres also a fund raiser link there, and its been shared on twitter quit a bit at this point. I tried adding the link but like i saud, youtube dosnt like that.

    • @WindowtotheMagic
      @WindowtotheMagic 2 роки тому +1

      @@lestat964 Thanks for trying, Marty! I’m familiar with that group. I’ll go find it. Have a great week!!

    • @lestat964
      @lestat964 2 роки тому +1

      @@WindowtotheMagic you too. Ernies had a rough couple months, his grandson passed away too. You have a great week as well.

  • @707king
    @707king 2 роки тому

    “All of the rides are open”
    *toontown*
    *pirates*
    *finding nemo*
    The more rides are closed the less space you leave for people to occupy. Thus the park is technically smaller, capacity wise.

    • @breadchito
      @breadchito 2 роки тому

      Only attraction on that list with good capacity is pirates

    • @707king
      @707king 2 роки тому

      @@breadchito the entirety of toontown my guy?

  • @theemperor912
    @theemperor912 2 роки тому +1

    Chris Evans and Robert Downey Jr will return to the MCU soon

  • @anthonyorchrisgraves551
    @anthonyorchrisgraves551 2 роки тому +1

    What is missing at the parks still? Entertainment is not back to normal still.

  • @blainemilliron3870
    @blainemilliron3870 2 роки тому

    materhorn = clam the highest MT . the yetty was just a gimackin the ride because they had not bult a rolliecoster at that point

  • @S1X_Bucks
    @S1X_Bucks 2 роки тому

    As of now, no way I'm renewing my believe key in August if they don't change up this current system.

  • @April.December
    @April.December 2 роки тому

    Where does Ron get those backgrounds??!! Please help!

  • @Douglas-1994
    @Douglas-1994 2 роки тому

    He said they’re more than half way but we need another year of work

    • @WindowtotheMagic
      @WindowtotheMagic 2 роки тому

      Exactly. The accurate quote was
      “We’ve embarked on this legendary comeback,” Potrock said. “We’re more than halfway through it, but we’ve got another year.”

  • @siliconvalleylife2.048
    @siliconvalleylife2.048 2 роки тому

    I had mentioned weeks ago and last year that Disneyland and Disneyworld are being managed by Artificial intelligence now, as is practically every facet of our new society...and there is no way to run a test simulation on that magnitude before roll out.
    Half way through is probably a very loose definition. As with Artificial intelligence it never actually stops learning and adjusting. It's probably going to take a couple years to get enough data points to then begin It's mission (manage the park). Having the reservations (as miserable as they might be for guests) is an integral part of how the AI processes its data. It literally couldn't function properly without knowing how many guests are in the park or on property and who's coming next week and the week after that etc as well as the age demographics of the guests.
    We still have a severe worker/staffing shortage nationwide. Especially with educated/skilled workers.
    It's not enough to have 500 general laborers, you have to also have dozens of educated mature managers, trainers etc.
    Lastly, machine learning and AI are two different animals.
    While Machine learning could be one washing machine, Artificial intelligence would be the factory.
    Machine learning only learns how to be efficient for one single task that was programmed into it by a human. Machine learning could be used to operate just the elevators on Mission Breakout.
    Artificial intelligence, doesn't need the human to begin with, and crunches the numbers for efficiency on the entire corporation: The parks, hotels, security, staffing, procurement, guest experience, ride operations, maintenance, all of it...and then integrate the data.
    Right now it's just learning what it's going to manage.
    Not only does it monitor inventory, but can crunch the market as well in relation to its own needs. National/global inventory, supply chain, and delivery of product.
    2023 marks the 100th anniversary of the founding of the Disney Corporation. That will be shareholder year.
    I'm willing to bet that's the year the shareholders come not to visit Disneyland persay, but to see their new AI robot being implemented in a real world simulation in action. Along with those shareholders will be scientists and physicists also taking notes.

  • @brianbennett9478
    @brianbennett9478 2 роки тому +4

    At some point Disney will be forced to face the reality that reservations are costing them money and they will go away.

    • @davidhalcon5594
      @davidhalcon5594 2 роки тому

      The reservation system is not going anywhere. Look at the crowds. The reservation system is not having any effect on crowds except to control the capacity. Which is a good thing.

  • @aseainfo
    @aseainfo 2 роки тому +6

    Disney needs to get rid of the terrible no good very bad horrible fun sucking disaster of an idea called the reservation system and just burn it down. Re-introduce the old annual pass system (with adjusted prices to make it a little more fair for Disney) and open the flood gates again. A fully staffed park can handle 80,000 people a day.

    • @lddcavalry
      @lddcavalry 2 роки тому +1

      Who would go to a park with 80000. Hell on earth.

    • @davidhalcon5594
      @davidhalcon5594 2 роки тому

      Those days are over. If anything, get rid of any form of AP and just go daily ticket sales. Maybe sell a California 2-3 day pass. The crowds would be a disaster with your idea. The AP is an outdated system and should be shelved for good.

  • @solarwhale
    @solarwhale 2 роки тому

    Genie will never work sadly. It's an attempt to redistribute guests in the park for Disney's benefit, it's not working. And it's a marketing tool.

  • @SR-zc6lk
    @SR-zc6lk 2 роки тому +10

    Song of the South isn’t “racist”. And I didn’t realize you needed the same skin color to relate to a character. 🙄

    • @lddcavalry
      @lddcavalry 2 роки тому +2

      Really sad he's bought into the wokeness.

    • @mickeblu8600
      @mickeblu8600 2 роки тому +1

      Not to mention they haven’t even started work on the re-theme and he chose it as #1. My eyes rolled into the back of my head. Lost some respect for him.

  • @jillgoodman1515
    @jillgoodman1515 2 роки тому

    Jack Jack!! Edna look after Jack Jack...and he's gone! Oh no...don't go goey! Lol

  • @tkelly5422
    @tkelly5422 2 роки тому +2

    I set my clock using Fresh Baked videos crying about the reservation system. I love the SoCal entitlement mind set!!!!! Hahahaha

    • @tkelly5422
      @tkelly5422 2 роки тому +3

      Ron gets it - the reservation system that is, and i love watching dave squirm as he screams on the inside as ron speaks the truth.
      If u want to go everyday with no reservation (ie we assume u are in park everyday), be prepared to pay through your nose to do it.

    • @davidhalcon5594
      @davidhalcon5594 2 роки тому

      Hell yea. You want to play? Your gonna pay!

  • @jeffreyh7951
    @jeffreyh7951 2 роки тому

    Hey Fresh Baked!!

  • @davidhalcon5594
    @davidhalcon5594 2 роки тому

    Good by “magic key and AP”! Disney can make so much more money with daily ticket sales vs any form of AP. To think they went as long as they have with AP’s and now these magic keys. They are out dated. If I owned a “premium” anything, why would I charge customers like they’re coming to an “all you can eat buffet” for one price? When I can make more money on daily tickets? Once Disneyland expands with “Disney Forward” it will become a destination resort and not a “locals park” as many believe it is. The company is out to make as much money as possible. Shareholders/stockholders will make sure of that.

  • @salgallucci6403
    @salgallucci6403 2 роки тому +1

    What if… 3rd “Frozen” movie ref a yeti! Reskin the mountain with Frozen keep yeti!… empty Innoventions area… Marvel to DCA keep all Starwars in edge!… Innoventions then Used and reskin for round house of future movie trailers and theme’s! Does the house of tomorrow have Disney +?

    • @salgallucci6403
      @salgallucci6403 2 роки тому +1

      Call it “Encanto House” of Movies to come!

  • @iamtheomnimonkey
    @iamtheomnimonkey 2 роки тому

    Crowds are not a problem with people who live close by and can drop in whenever, but they are a HUGE PROBLEM for people who for 1 reason or another can only go once a year/once every couple of years/etc... And reservations can keep the crowd levels down if properly managed. Disneyland should get rid of reservations for now. They should make an announcement that they are reevaluating reservations and say that they will tell us 3 months in advance before reinstating reservations. Then they need to do some annalitics starting 1/1/2023 and ending 12/31/23. Disneyland should set a goal of limiting crowd levels to a specific % of maximum capacity, for example maybe 75%. Then calculate the average number of MK holders that visit each day. Then calculate the average % of guests that are MK holders.
    Now let's say, (I know this is not accurate numbers but these numbers are just an example and set up for easy math), that they decide to limit guests to 75% of capacity and that 75% of capacity is 100,000. And let's say that on average 60% of guests are MK holders. 60% of 100,000 = 60,000. So if Disney wants to keep the crowd level at 100,000 then they should only allow 60,000 MK reservations per day and 40,000 non-MK reservations per day.
    Then Disneyland needs to announce these numbers and post these numbers front and center on their website.
    If the % of MK guests fluctuates significantly by season or day of the week or whatever they can fluctuate the number of reservations by season or day of the week or whatever.
    And everytime a guest wants a reservation but none are available there should be a wait list option and a feedback option. This way as people cancel a reservation the next person or group on the wait list should be sent an email/text/whatever that guest wants for a notification and they have 48 hours to grab the now available reservation(s) before a notification is sent to the next person or group on the wait list. And Disneyland needs to enforce the penalty for missing 3 reservations in a 1 month period. They need to allow cancelations up to 24 hours before opening and have an appeal system for people who were penalized and whom couldn't cancel due to an unforseen emergency.
    The feedback system needs to be monitored daily so changes to the system can be considered and disappointed guests can get a personal and quick response to their feedback.
    Disneyland also needs to track the same annalitics yearly to make yearly adjustments to the reservation numbers. And if an individual is booking a reservation for multiple people and there are only a small number of reservations left there should be a small allowance, (maybe 4 people/group), so that when there are only 10%, (or maybe 15%, or maybe 5%), of the total reservations left those last few people can make a reservation for the whole family up to a specific maximum, (maybe 4). This way, some days, the park may get to 80% or 90% instead of the 75% goal, but still not 100% of capacity.
    Obviously these numbers are just examples, but a similar system and with full transparency to the guests, would I think work for most people and work well for Disney.

    • @davidhalcon5594
      @davidhalcon5594 2 роки тому

      Not gonna happen. Reservations are for staffing and knowing how much food to order each day. It enables the park to control capacity. The reservation system is not going anywhere anytime soon.

  • @lddcavalry
    @lddcavalry 2 роки тому +13

    They need to go back to Walt’s dream ! They’ve lost their creative soul and producing a quality product. This company is just a woke corporation and you might as well go to Universal.

    • @adammm1838
      @adammm1838 2 роки тому +6

      Agree 200%, .if you go back and watch Walt's videos and listen to what this dream was intended to be you will realize it's turned into his nightmare! They might as well and remove the plaque on main street and put To all all come to this place PAY UP.

  • @ericgerds3980
    @ericgerds3980 2 роки тому

    I am more worried that they think that they are at the 50% mark of getting Genie plus to work. They are under the delusion that it is a good thing and that they can fix it.

  • @appleforever6664
    @appleforever6664 2 роки тому +1

    BOYCOTT DISNEY!

    • @davidhalcon5594
      @davidhalcon5594 2 роки тому +2

      For every 1 person who “boycotts” Disney, there are a thousand who will gladly take their place in the park.

    • @appleforever6664
      @appleforever6664 2 роки тому +1

      @@davidhalcon5594 - Just like the only guy who stood for the Trans movement at Downtown Disney. 😂

    • @davidhalcon5594
      @davidhalcon5594 2 роки тому +1

      @@appleforever6664 not sure who your talking about, but I sure as hell don’t back the “trans” anything. Live and let live, but don’t push that crap on me, and keep it out of the park! Disneyland should not be a place where agendas like that are pushed.

    • @appleforever6664
      @appleforever6664 2 роки тому

      @@davidhalcon5594 - Disney became WOKE. They have no business in politics.

  • @understandingroy9042
    @understandingroy9042 2 роки тому

    i think you got the story wrong on matterhorn... the story would be simple - "Encanto on a snowy mountain"...