Probably one of the most creative sets of dogfights in a minute! That’s saying a lot, all the tricks were being pulled out of the bag today. Thanks again for the fix!
This is the first time you really demonstrated offseting the circles to escape a losing rate fight. I know you have been really successful watching for them to pull lead, tightening down, and reversing, but as you have described it, you are relying on the opponent to be impatient or doing a poor job of managing the closure. Perhaps if you work on this offset technique you would not be as reliant on an opponent mistake. Or is this even easier for the opponent to counter if they see it and understand what you are doing? Perhaps you could display it in Tacview and explain your cues, goals, and actions.
One of the most attractive things about GS's channel ethos is he often ends with he himself getting rekt by another pilot. The temptation to always appear as the winning Top Gun must be enormous and I applaud him for it.
Hahah I’ve never set out to make people think I’m the best, very average, lots of guys better than me out there, I’m just here to have fun and make a few videos along the way. No shame in showing a loss.
@@GrowlingSidewinder The shame (if they feel any) is entirely attached to someone who refuses to acknowledge a loss or the talent of an adversary. It is your demenour here and the character you display in game that dictates the quality of your fans. Buttheads and trolls rarely last long at a quality site of which yours is one.
Just saying the quality of the content has rose up immensely lately, and it's always been high. From when u were doing dogfights to teach the main ideas of those fights, to BVR fights, consisting of pure skill, to now, doing more creative stuff. I love it, keep it up man!
I'd love to see a video of you taking on an f22 or su57 or some other sort of "good/new" plane with you and a buddy in a 2v1. Maybe you and longshot in Hornets vs an f22? I don't really know much about how a 2v1 would go in close quarters. Even if it would be unfair, I'd still like to see it. Just an idea 🤷♂️ Thanks for the videos! Can tell you're working hard. Just sort of going in that same vein of "a fight isn't always fair and you don't always know what you'll merge with" from a couple videos ago.
Love these videos it’s so hard to know what the hell is going on from films and stuff. Gives a real insight into what combat pilots actually have to do and think about. Well done. 👍🏻🤟
Beautiful and enthralling this fight. Didn't know Mig-29 vs F-14 had such potential. Once again I like to mention, always love when u explain tactics with diagrams and stuff.
LOVE YOUR SHOW. I was thinking about all this work it must take to produce your show, and the amazing amount of information that you juggle to win the day.
This US Army Rotary Wing Aviator to the computer game simulator pilot... You always crack me up! Thank you so much for the hard work making these videos!
The Tomcat is such a bad ass plane. Grandpa kicking the whipper snappers into place at 50. Imagine if a modern day 'Super Tomcat' was built,with today's technology. It would be LETHAL.
10:09 Wow that Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-30-1 really doesn’t mess around. The quote "it is reported to be extremely accurate as well as powerful" may be very true after all.
I watched a video yesterday about a planned tomcat that got dropped. Didn't know if you could do one for the DCS. It was stealth, thrust vectoring the works. Still had the f14 look. Pretty cool if you never heard about it.
I would like an explanation of why a larger aircraft like the tomcat can outrate a fulcrum. Thrust to weight is better in the fulcrum as well max g-load, wing loading is lower in the tomcat maybe?
It would be cool to see something like a community fight night where you fight with viewers or they fight with each other and you break down the fight. Idk just something I'd be interested in seeing
I saw the seismic charges scene of star wars attack of the clones last night and saw that part where Obi wan lost visual on Jengo Fett and Jengo got on Obi wan's six and started pouring blaster fire into him. I saw Obi-wan start reversing the turns and my mind automatically inserted GS' voice "taking him into the one circle.... Into the rolling scissors"
5:23 Look at him go, What a majestic plane I'm glad Shah decided to go with F-14 instead of F-15 in the 70s. Tnx for trying F-14 and other Iranian version planes once in a while.
F-14 thrust vectoring upgraded engines to top performance and electrical platforms for 5th gen fighters…… we have a basic idea what the lead angel of god Gabriel looks like
The first Mig-29 was shot down by an Iranian F14 using an AIM-23 missile which is a MIM-23 Hawk missile modified to be used instead of the AIM-54 since the Iranians were low on Phoenixes late war.
Your absolutely correct this is interesting not only as a matchup also bc They are Both Iranian as you mentioned. India is another example of a Nation that has Both Russian and American Aircraft*. Another great Vid! Keep up the kick ass work!👍👍
@@Anarchy_420 oh no they finalised on the rafale and have started to take deliveries too i think and for the medium wieght fighter were going with an indigenous design with the AMCA project so no viper for us (i think thats mainly cuz PAF has vipers and in a merge it would get confusing real fast whos who to prevent frendly fire)
@@FookFish I kinda understand what you're saying about how The PAF has The F-16 lol but I don't think it would be an issue as I'm sure they'd be able to tell the difference, especially since The F-21 was going to be easily one of the most advanced variants of it's kind (based on F-16 of course) but it was going to be so much more... big shame in my opinion
Damn, in that first round the Cat was "polishing the cannonball" with his delayed gunfire. I reckon he had you cold at least twice before the actual kill.
@@pogo1140 True, but as a fan of deflection shooting I feel it is an underated art these days.The high deflection attack is easy to miss coming at you because it's not encountered so often.Yes, it is alow percentage shot when done badly but when done right it's like a fist you don't see coming. I love watching an enemy fly into a well aimed deflection stream...it's a thing of beauty :)
The 29s used to be giving our 18d boys some hard time until they are retired from the service. What I heard is that the two Sqn literally don't talk to each other. Now it's 30-MKM that's enjoying the limelight.
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J20 vs f22 BVR
How about some "No Step on Snek" under the GS Logo merch as appears on your website? It is so awesomely meta!
Probably one of the most creative sets of dogfights in a minute! That’s saying a lot, all the tricks were being pulled out of the bag today. Thanks again for the fix!
Rule no.1 : The enemy is supposed to be in FRONT not in the REAR
He bleed speed in first Circle, he cant fly for shit
@@SparkySlow bro shut the hell up every fight is different they have to jam the WEZ bc they have fox 2s. You know nothing
Kudos to the Tomcat pilot. Very well flown. Keeping to its strength and not pushing its luck.
Glad you're flying the fulcrum so often
GS is pumping awesome videos everyday. So many variations to witness, great!
SR71 is slower than me when I get the GS video notification
"He's supposed to be out front, not behind.." .. That IS kind of the idea 😆
Loving the low merge fights, really shakes things up!
Yeah, they get dynamic really quickly.
This is the first time you really demonstrated offseting the circles to escape a losing rate fight. I know you have been really successful watching for them to pull lead, tightening down, and reversing, but as you have described it, you are relying on the opponent to be impatient or doing a poor job of managing the closure. Perhaps if you work on this offset technique you would not be as reliant on an opponent mistake. Or is this even easier for the opponent to counter if they see it and understand what you are doing? Perhaps you could display it in Tacview and explain your cues, goals, and actions.
Yes, please and thank you.
"I thought I could bring him in closer."
-Growling Maverick
Love all the MiG-29 content, what an underappreciated plane
It really is. I absolutely adore the Fulcrum
One of the most attractive things about GS's channel ethos is he often ends with he himself getting rekt by another pilot. The temptation to always appear as the winning Top Gun must be enormous and I applaud him for it.
Hahah I’ve never set out to make people think I’m the best, very average, lots of guys better than me out there, I’m just here to have fun and make a few videos along the way. No shame in showing a loss.
@@GrowlingSidewinder Pure Sigma male Rule- Never Hesitate in showing a Loss😉
Love your vids GS so proud to be your subscriber❤️
@@GrowlingSidewinder The shame (if they feel any) is entirely attached to someone who refuses to acknowledge a loss or the talent of an adversary. It is your demenour here and the character you display in game that dictates the quality of your fans.
Buttheads and trolls rarely last long at a quality site of which yours is one.
"or the RATE fight" I love how GS still does that haha
Just saying the quality of the content has rose up immensely lately, and it's always been high. From when u were doing dogfights to teach the main ideas of those fights, to BVR fights, consisting of pure skill, to now, doing more creative stuff. I love it, keep it up man!
Your killing it with these MiG-29 vids! Keep them coming!
Two of the best looking aircraft ever IMO. Along with the F4
The Su-37 is still better looking, and the rest of the Flanker family.
Fantastic video! The fights between the older jets, somehow are more impressive.
Keep up the great work GS!
I'd love to see a video of you taking on an f22 or su57 or some other sort of "good/new" plane with you and a buddy in a 2v1. Maybe you and longshot in Hornets vs an f22? I don't really know much about how a 2v1 would go in close quarters. Even if it would be unfair, I'd still like to see it. Just an idea 🤷♂️ Thanks for the videos! Can tell you're working hard.
Just sort of going in that same vein of "a fight isn't always fair and you don't always know what you'll merge with" from a couple videos ago.
Tatch weave
@@Future-Preps35 I wonder if it was BVR? I was thinking more like in the merge. Still neat to hear! Very cool!
Love these videos it’s so hard to know what the hell is going on from films and stuff. Gives a real insight into what combat pilots actually have to do and think about. Well done. 👍🏻🤟
Beautiful and enthralling this fight. Didn't know Mig-29 vs F-14 had such potential.
Once again I like to mention, always love when u explain tactics with diagrams and stuff.
The 2nd round, that may have been one of the most exciting yet. I loved watching different tactics being used.
GS: I gonna bring him in closer
Merlin: GONNA DO WHAT?!?!?!
LOVE YOUR SHOW. I was thinking about all this work it must take to produce your show, and the amazing amount of information that you juggle to win the day.
This was very fun to watch, loving your content! I always love seeing a Tomcat in the thumbnail.
I watched you for like 2 years now and I still learn new things from you.
Round 2 was soo sick man! That was awesome to watch!
Thanks for the info.
If I ever get in a dogfight with my old Piper Vegabond I will have a few tricks up my sleeve.
Awesome video today man, I'd love to see more about offsetting the two-circle
the second round was amazing, dodging the fox 2 was so cool and then winning from there is like a scene from a movie. good games
That second fight was amazing! Would have been a great tacview, beautiful to watch.
After almost 50 yrs still a dangerous adversary
This US Army Rotary Wing Aviator to the computer game simulator pilot...
You always crack me up!
Thank you so much for the hard work making these videos!
Intense match-up! I could really feel the pf moments especially for this one.
Absolutely amazing content! Would love to see the tacview on how you offset the circles in a rate fight
Nice video dude, in my opinion, you are one of the best dcs content creators, love from Brazil
Thank you brother I really appreciate that
Brazilian Warthunder players also watch you
I didn't expect that F-14 could beat Mig-29 ! 😮
Awesomely creative move when you went into the mountains - kudos!
Second match was great, adapted really quickly as everything developed.
*Thanks for vid, very informative!!*
The Tomcat is such a bad ass plane. Grandpa kicking the whipper snappers into place at 50. Imagine if a modern day 'Super Tomcat' was built,with today's technology. It would be LETHAL.
Never did I ever think I would hear about Venn Diagrams in the context of dogfighting XD
Nice
When you are about to do a desperate jink, an appropriate thing to say is, "I'll try spinning--that's a good trick!"
Damn that tomcat can really perform in the rate fight that was a slick roll over but he came around the 2 circle quick
Amazing. Amazing fight dude. GS is such a difficult opponent even as underdog.
It is an outstanding plan that will survive contact with realty.
GS never disappoints in either case.
Fantastic use of everything!
Both the Tomcat and the Fulcrum are very capable aircrafts, in a 1 vs 1 situation, the pilot's skill would be the deciding factor.
true i think GS is better in USA planes than in Russians
@@matej1016 I feel like the russian aircrafts are a bit underpowered compared to the U.S ones in DCS.
@@badasstasticusbadass4908 I agree, I also think the mig 29 under preforms in a 1 circle, or may not be correctly modeled.
Good fights! Thanks guys :)
It was a very interesting fight nice video!
GS is gonna take at least one round, no matter WHAT he's flying or WHAT he's flying against 😂🤣 love it dude!
10:09 Wow that Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-30-1 really doesn’t mess around. The quote "it is reported to be extremely accurate as well as powerful" may be very true after all.
New favourite channel - thanks algorithm! Anyone got a fav tac review one he’s done? Love those!
"No worries" he said with both engines burning.
I watched a video yesterday about a planned tomcat that got dropped. Didn't know if you could do one for the DCS. It was stealth, thrust vectoring the works. Still had the f14 look. Pretty cool if you never heard about it.
2nd round is the best fight in my opinion, the use of terrain for tactical advantage.
I would like an explanation of why a larger aircraft like the tomcat can outrate a fulcrum. Thrust to weight is better in the fulcrum as well max g-load, wing loading is lower in the tomcat maybe?
I don't understand it either..but it's the modelling I guess, not reality?
Amazing content, but don’t get burned out GS!
13:44 - "That Tomcat nose, man," that Tomcat knows!
It would be cool to see something like a community fight night where you fight with viewers or they fight with each other and you break down the fight. Idk just something I'd be interested in seeing
"See if we can force an overshoot", he immediately takes out both your engines.. Yeah, that's a good way to get him to pass you.. LOL
I saw the seismic charges scene of star wars attack of the clones last night and saw that part where Obi wan lost visual on Jengo Fett and Jengo got on Obi wan's six and started pouring blaster fire into him. I saw Obi-wan start reversing the turns and my mind automatically inserted GS' voice "taking him into the one circle.... Into the rolling scissors"
5:23 Look at him go, What a majestic plane
I'm glad Shah decided to go with F-14 instead of F-15 in the 70s.
Tnx for trying F-14 and other Iranian version planes once in a while.
Very good one GS ..... can you talk about moves against superior fightr in 1 circle as well in next videos? how about them?
Echoes of Merlin in topgun.."You're gonna do WHAT!?"🤣
GS you should do a video showing what your top favorite planes to fly are
he already made a video like this
This was really exciting
˝If you intend to win, you must not lose˝ -Alan Ford
"You should try spinning, that's a good trick!" - Bananakin Skywalker
F-14 thrust vectoring upgraded engines to top performance and electrical platforms for 5th gen fighters…… we have a basic idea what the lead angel of god Gabriel looks like
Brilliant battles.
Please make a tacview on the offset 2-circle!
The first Mig-29 was shot down by an Iranian F14 using an AIM-23 missile which is a MIM-23 Hawk missile modified to be used instead of the AIM-54 since the Iranians were low on Phoenixes late war.
Ive never seen someone love a plane as much as you love the mig-29... But I love it
Your absolutely correct this is interesting not only as a matchup also bc They are Both Iranian as you mentioned. India is another example of a Nation that has Both Russian and American Aircraft*. Another great Vid! Keep up the kick ass work!👍👍
We have Russian and French combat aircraft , but we do have american helos and airlift planes
@@FookFish aircraft* ;)
@@FookFish btw do you happen to have any new info or insight on whether or not India will be proceeding on with The F-21?
@@Anarchy_420 oh no they finalised on the rafale and have started to take deliveries too i think and for the medium wieght fighter were going with an indigenous design with the AMCA project so no viper for us (i think thats mainly cuz PAF has vipers and in a merge it would get confusing real fast whos who to prevent frendly fire)
@@FookFish I kinda understand what you're saying about how The PAF has The F-16 lol but I don't think it would be an issue as I'm sure they'd be able to tell the difference, especially since The F-21 was going to be easily one of the most advanced variants of it's kind (based on F-16 of course) but it was going to be so much more... big shame in my opinion
Damn, in that first round the Cat was "polishing the cannonball" with his delayed gunfire.
I reckon he had you cold at least twice before the actual kill.
@@pogo1140 True, but as a fan of deflection shooting I feel it is an underated art these days.The high deflection attack is easy to miss coming at you because it's not encountered so often.Yes, it is alow percentage shot when done badly but when done right it's like a fist you don't see coming. I love watching an enemy fly into a well aimed deflection stream...it's a thing of beauty :)
The 29s used to be giving our 18d boys some hard time until they are retired from the service. What I heard is that the two Sqn literally don't talk to each other. Now it's 30-MKM that's enjoying the limelight.
It looks like flying the MiG29 is really honing your skills
Amazing video again. Quite surprised the Mig-29 isn't a lot better. Always thought the 29 would be a lot better then the Tomcat in a dogfight.
In reality, it is :)
A Tomcat on your six is both a beautiful and scary site!
You know what would be interesting? A merge at 35,000 feet, or even one at Angels 40. Might change things up a bit, who knows?
As it should be ... Tomcat victory. Keep doing them Tomcats vids - love 'em
Damn my man is really goin in on the mig29 goin up against his old fav the f14
“Left engine fire! Ok. We’re ok….”😂😂
Good Tomcat pilot in this video. Not sure I could have kept a Tomcat in the air during those rolling scissors.
Those are two of my best good looking fighters.
I don't know which one I like more....
Slammer would be proud on the tomcat driver.
5:16 "You dare use my own moves against me?!"
the F-14 has been dominating in your vids
I suppose the tactics from round 2 does diddle squat against the raptor and felon?
Im not sure when i learn more. When you slash a bandit? or when you get splashed? Both are pretty valuable to new drivers
I don’t quite understand how you create the offset 2 circle. Do you just continually tighten down and accept the loss of speed as a reasonable risk?
Should definitely do some f35 vs (insert whatever)
Hey GS, great vid
Why is the F14 so dominant in the rate fight ?
Thrust to weight ratio that is quite good.
what aerodynamic properties make fighter plane good in 1-circle or 2-circle scenarios? Is it wings size or power ratio or drag factor etc.?
Maybe
What's the name of the song that plays during the kill replay
Cut paste, asides like this should be slotted into action movies.
This is that less careful people want to see in War Thunder LOL I just can not imagine how these jets will be ''Gaijinized''.
Two of the prettiest airplanes ever made destroying each other. Such a shame.
That was intense that cats nose omg