@@Not-to5kf The only things they really compete on are personal assistants (Bixby vs Google Assistant) and phones (Galaxy and non-flagships vs PIxels). Both companies are very diverse and have money tied up in many other ventures. Google's overlap with Samsung is a very minute part of their business, so I'd have to disagree with them being 'rivals at the fundamental level'. They compete in certain product areas but overall don't and can both benefit significantly by collaborating to benefit themselves in the areas they don't compete.
"Dead Internet" Theory deserves its own David storytime podcast special episode. Also "what are we even consuming" is the most dystopian phrase of the millennia.
42:22 I was a firefighter. The Vision Pro comes in at about 22 oz, which is 1 lb, 6 oz (650 g). I used to wear a fire helmet that was about 56 oz (3.5 lbs as a naked helmet, though most firefighters have a flashlight, wedges, and other things on their helmet), or just under 3x as heavy, for hours while battling fires. I learned that balance was as important to the heavy “feel” as the weight itself. Both are heavy, but I wonder if the battery is moved to the back of the unit instead of your pocket if it would feel less heavy. I think you’re feeling the stretch in the back of your neck and that would lessen somewhat with better front/back balance.
I think you’re onto something. Something that I really loved about the first PSVR is that they put a counterweight in the headband. It helped balance the weight and it didn’t feel like I had a brick on my face. When I bought my Quest 2, it was SO uncomfortable. It just had a fabric strap and it was so painful to wear for long periods of time. I bought the elite strap, which basically just looked like another counterweight headband similar to the PSVR, and I can now wear my Quest 2 for hours
Yeah but the helmet also wraps around your head and goes on top of it The vision is strapped on so most of the weight is focused on the front of the device and you don't really want it moving around or shaking on your head you want it to be pretty stiff in place when you're using it otherwise everything's going to be bouncing around in your vision
@@IronBran123 1000% also I got the elite strap with battery for quest 2 which I was originally con cearned was going to be a problem because of the extra weight. but I've never had an issue because yep it feels perfect tly balanced since the external battery is at the back of the head. The hard shell type bike helmet tightening ratchet thing of the elite strap is something I absolutely love and is a real game changer because of the comfort and security.
Google seemed way more involved in this particular Samsung event/product launch than they ever have been. Seems like they've really settled into collaboration.
Google is using Samsung to fight IOS/Apple. and Samsung has a good chances of actually wining in the end Since Samsung is not in direct fight with apple
@@ΒύρωναςΛαδιάς at 26:44 someone says daddy. I literally saw the comment, randomly tapped a section of the video, and that's what I heard. Idk if it's the same one.
Other regions outside of USA/CA etc. are getting Exynos 2400 on the S24/S24+, like in EU and SEA. And fun fact, there are UA-camrs who have already done gaming tests, it outperforms the S24U's 8 Gen 3 on AVERAGE while running slightly cooler. It seems that Samsung has finally fixed Exynos' issues
@@toptiertech7291UA-camrs who get phones early say bad things all the time. They are incentivize not to, and I'd be interested to see which channels did the benchmarks.
Just imagine showing the Vision Pro to somebody in the 1700s, saying their minds would be blown is a massive understatement. Humans have created some really incredible things, we are living in previous generations wildest dreams
To be fair you don’t have to go that far behind lol ,even 40-50 years ago ,people wouldn’t believe this was possible and wouldn’t understand what it is
Samsung literally just duplicated most all of Google's AI features, like magic editor, recorder transcription, summarizer, and live translation. I would really like to see some tests to see which one can perform better though...
Are you new here? This is Samsung MO... They copy others and get away with it. Quite literally copying is what set them off to become such a dominant smartphone company dating all the way back to the infamous Apple lawsuit (which Samsung lost).
I’ve always been really into the idea of VR but never able to enjoy it fully despite owning the Quest 2, 3 and PSVR 2 because neither Meta nor PlayStation made these headsets with IPD ranges that incorporate my vision. The Vision Pro specs that were released this morning confirm that Apple’s focus on user experience and optics will create accessibility for people like me with narrower or wider IPD. I pre-ordered mine this morning
Genuinely loved David's story at the end about using Google translate to communicate with the Japanese taxi driver....feel like we need to hear more fun stories about some of you guys' travels and trips
I think the nitpicking over the voice translation not being "live" doesn't take into consideration that with translating, you also have to consider the grammatical/word order conversion you have to do as well with people who speak a different language. That alone requires some latency for someone to finish a statement before you can properly translate. So i don't think "live" translation will ever be immediate, 1:1 as someone is talking.
It's the Eames Lounge chair designed by Ray and Charles Eames, the reason it's so renowned is that it was a huge step forward in manufacturing with their steam bent moulded plywood, plus it's just gorgeous. They were big into cheap, functional and beautiful design. love you guys love the show 👍
Regarding Vision Pro feature questions: 1. The Quest allows you to stream live video to an iPad using their app. This proves extremely useful when friends demo the device, as you are able to walk them through how to use it. I’d imagine when you did your demos, Apple employees were able to see what you were looking at, but will that be available for consumers using Vision Pro, on Apple TV, for example? 2. I realize in your demos you were able to look at your own recorded spatial video from your iPhone 15 Pro, but I wonder: will spatial video recorded natively on the Vision Pro actually have a more pronounced 3D effect, as the distance between the lenses on the Vision Pro is farther than the distance between the lenses on the iPhone? 3. Does the Vision Pro allow you to accept phone calls like on a Mac or iPad, for example? How do they sound? 4. If logged in as a guest on the Vision Pro, what does iMessage or FaceTime do? Or if you’re letting a guest use your Vision Pro, how would you be able to share a spatial video with them for them to watch it while in guest mode? 5. I’m curious how the Eyesight feature would work for someone like Nick Fury, either with an eyepatch on, or with a disfigured eye (how does it display that?) 6. How do notifications appear? For example, if you’re in an immersive experience (like Disney+ at Avengers tower) and you receive a FaceTime or an iMessage, how does it appear? 7. To your point of the device being heavy, one highly requested feature on Quest is the ability to watch a movie while laying on your side (so the room perspective “rotates” 90°, does the Vision Pro allow you to do that? Thank you! Great job on the podcast, fellas!
Umm. Vision Pro weighs less than Quest Pro. And only 1/4lbs heavier than Quest 3. I like this weight thing is being overblown. Just like AirPods Max. All the journalists, including you guys, were very focused on the weight of AirPods Max when it was released. No one I know has any complaints about the weight of AirPods Max. I do understand the weight not being spread out with a battery in the rear makes it feel different. But you guys are making it seem like it is some crazy amount heavier than other VR headsets.
about live translation, i don’t think what David is suggesting about taking a voice map and making it into different languages is not that big of a leap - it would be a HUGE advancement, languages are extremely complex and have so many unique and different sounds that change the meaning of words in different languages. some of these sounds we don’t even get close to making in english. i think it would have to be an extremely advanced program to take the sounds of english from an english voice map and make them all of the sounds of other languages.
I would love to see sport events take advantage of the vision pro and implement 360 degree cameras that would allow users to feel like they are at the event on the sideline or on the front row of the game. That said I hope they are able to address the weight issue.
I feel like for the nfl it wouldn't be great but for something like Tennis it would be amazing, or even like golf that it will follow the player around and then you can switch to the normal camera once the player has hit it would be awsome
Not sure why Marques is saying it’s heavy like that when other VR he has used is heavier. I think it might be the fit more than anything. Also, the killer feature is AirPlay. It would be much cheaper to buy it than to buy multiple high quality big displays. Also, for adobe apps creatives like me, omg that capability makes the sky be the limit
From an S22 ultra user, I think the S23 U would be the better buy for me. The AI stuff is adequate but the clause will expire in 2025. I am a curved display fan and reallylike how the curve is minimal on the S23 ultra
The weight will be the single biggest issue with Vision Pro. All of the headsets I've used were lighter than this and they were barely comfortable enough to wear for an hour.
Got the Vision Pro with a mid-Feb delivery. Will only keep if I end up using it everyday. Otherwise, will sell it or return it. If it cant become part of my daily use, the price would be hard to justify.
It’s hard to imagine instantaneous translation unless the AI can very accurately predict what the speaker will say next. I speak Japanese and the grammar kind of operates in the reverse of English so you don’t really know what’s being said until the verb shows up at the end of the sentence. But even a delay would be amazing.
RE: Language translation in real time: It's probably not ever going to actually happen due to languages being structured differently. I'm sure there are some language pairings that are near-perfect 1:1 translations, but it's not particularly realistic.
13:03 I am surprised Marques found the google on screen search "new" and only compared it to the google now tab. The pixel phones also show the search on screen option when you trigger Google assistant and you can select anything on the screen using the selection rectangle, and the search is instant too. But it is more convenient in the way samsung has done it tho.
Only the cloud-based AI features will be able to run on the S23 series. The on- device ones like Live Translate and Note Assist will not likely be coming to the S23 series because they are baked into the hardware, the Snapdragon Gen 3 for Samsung. That said, Circle to Search will be coming to S23 with the One UI 6.1 update.
I tired to pre-order my Vision Pro this morning at 5am. I did the face scan -- and had to do it a few times cause it wouldn't scan correctly. It WAS nice that Apple offers Reader lenses. When I got it in the cart at $4500 after taxes and accessories, my Apple Card was declined. To try with another card i had to start ALL OVER again because I had chosen monthly payments on Apple Card. And then once I got back to the Bag and tried to purchase with a different card, it was also declined. I know I had enough limit on both. By that time, I couldn't get one on release date -- it was not to be shipped mid-February. So I just gave up and didn't order thinking another card would be declined.
I have very recently started watching the podcast! Go S24😁😁! Also, I love the integration of Galaxy AI! To add, my favorite thing is Photo Assist (I am excited for all the new features) and I feel like Circle to Search will be the most widely used featured. Will have many sales and pre-orders. Excited for the Samsung Galaxy S24! Galaxy AI is here!
I think the purpose of Apple Vision Pro is to get a head start on spatial computing as a medium. It will be seen as the grandfather of the platform that killed the smartphone/laptop/tablet/and tv. Eventually lightweight glasses will collapse a lot of hardware into one device much like smartphone did once upon a time but on a larger scale. Apple vision pro is the first step to that.
@@MrKinein Apple Vision Pro is a part of a myriad of different devices all trying to get to the same end goal starting from different angles. Some people are going full headsets that are like standalone computers like meta and apple, some are doing slim glasses that are just vr displays mainly or camera ai glasses with meta ray bans, eventually headsets will slim down closer to glssses and glasses will get more capable like headsets. A race to meet in the middle on form and capability. Eventually we’ll get to where we all see this going!
@@lilmichael212 yeah it's true and closer than one might think. For example Bigscreen beyond is almost glasses like and still full VR headset, and in opposite new xreal ultra glasses are coming from glass side and added VR foundations - controls and head tracking
@@readabookdummy I think it could change the industry only if it would have mass adoption. Probably not first gen, but who knows what could happen in 2026 for example
FYI Samsung phones actually do have their own version of call screening. The only thing good about Bixby. It came i believe pretty quietly in OneUI5 or 5.1
Feel like Apple is going to have to switch the materials to make it lighter for the next iteration . If you can’t use it for more than 30 minutes at a time sounds Ike a deal breaker to me especially at 3,500.
As a Nigerian that has the first 20 elements of the periodic table drilled into my brain constantly for about 10 years, it's was a shock to me that realize titanium isnt one of the first 20 elements.
Re: the Vision Pro, folks repeatedly mention "playing a game" on it, just as a general use-case and how that might be tough due to the weight. My question is: What games will be available on the Vision Pro? I haven't heard anything about game announcements, but since reviewers keep alluding to games, I assume Apple has talked about that? Also, how much *does* the VP actually weigh? And what's the resolution? Refresh rate? Field of view? Is all this info still NDA'd?
Hi, I'm no Marcus and haven't used VP. However I try to answer from what I know: Facts: - they will give you some "experiences" that are interactive, but not games. Like virtual butterflies landing on your finger, and dinosaur roaring at you in 3D. It was in apple video that was just released. - they will allow you to play playstation 5 games. They said it on initial announcement. It is flat playstation games, with playstation dualsense joystic. You need to buy it separately. It will be a remote play. - it will have 23 million pixels resolution, 600-650 grams weight excluding battery in your pocket, 80-100 hz refresh rate. They have technical specifications. My opinion: Field of view probably will be around 100 degrees. Forget about the games here. This device is not for it. But there are VR headsets that are good with games
8:50 My wife literally duo lingo'd for 2 months straight just so she could call a restaurant in Venice to make a reservation 😂 this would have definitely made that process easier.
Well if the Vision Pro is this impressive on its first go around then I’m excited to see what the Pro 2-3 with a bigger battery, lighter weight, more apps to use.
Believe me. I'm a huge picky tech guy and the only impressive tech that came from 21st century is easily vr/ar or spacial computer because is the device that is not just another cheap sidegrade to pc desktop but something that has much more potential that can easily dethrown it with some improvement and time
In India the s24 and s24+ have the Exynos 2400! Really wanted to buy the S24 but will wait for some reviews now to see how well the exynos 2400 performs and if it throttles like the older exynoses! ✌️
Buying an S24 with Indian wages doesn't sound like a smart idea. Better wait till Xiaomi or Motorola release their Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 phones, then wait a few more months, as the price drops quite fast for those manufacturers, and you get basically the same as an S24 but for half the price. Probably faster charging too.
@@cube2fox Agree with you partly! Good software support and Smallish screen size are my top priority that's why i was thinking about buying S24. Don't like miui/hyper os. Might look at Motorola though! ✌️
If Google and Samsung are offering 7 years of Android updates, it just means that Android won't see major enough updates that requires better hardware. Take this how you want...
To me the biggest obstacle to vision pro is that the Quest 3 does not have the same very high quality screen but good enough to be a good way to watch a 2 hours movie, especially if (like me) you don't have a big/good TV, it's not incredibly comfortable but it's still bearable for that long while costing "only" 500 USD (and you can use it for other things than media consumption)
I think if you are thinking about media consumption, then both Quest 3 and Apple Vision Pro both bad headsets for it. You need to look for something like Bigscreen Beyond, light and small to wear it for hours
@@MrKinein well obviously the beyond is better but it cost 1000, need a good computer and isn't wireless and a TV can't be move to your bedroom or on vacation at will, while VP and Q3 can be used alone and anywhere so I still think the use cases are slightly different (but I agree that a good TV is often the better and easier choice)
At least for me I use my quest almost every day to watch series since I have a Q3 but I don't have a TV and it's still better than having to watch things on my phone or PC
the way Goole lens is implemented is almost identical on pixel dievices- for yers you could swipe up to select. it's just square not a circle and not a long pressing which is kinda better- because navigation buttons are just ancient technology at this point
Yeah, I was going to say, I do this on my Pixel all the time with Lens. I can swipe up and search any part of my screen just like this "new" Samsung feature.
I think where the voice translation will really work well is when you're on the phone with someone who likes to talk about you in their native language to someone when they're talking about you. :)
This is actually big moment for Quest 3, because many will get to know about VR because of media coverage of Apple Vision Pro then they cant buy it cuz too expensive so they try cheaper ones like Quest 3 !
The first talking point about translating live calls is already available since One Ui 5 and the latest bixby and phone updates from November 2023. On any samsung with bixby.
I was easily able to buy the Vision Pro 3 hours after pre-orders opened. I just checked, and 20 hours later, the only in-store model that is sold out in my area is the 256GB version. Both the 512GB and 1TB are available for pickup on February 4th.
The live translation is awesome if you ever traveled to a country that speaks absolutely no English. Calling the air bnb host, and have them only speak Spanish back to you was always so intimidating... trying to explain that I am outside waiting for them in my broken Spanish😅
I was hoping the ultra phones edges were similar to the regular and plus models. It will dig in to your hand. I'm not sure if they'll ever bring back the IR blaster from so many years ago. I also think Samsung should have added a 6th lens, where they kept the 10x and 3x, but added a 5x instead of getting rid of 10x all together. I think Samsung will now keep the 5x for at least the next two ultras as well. I'm just hoping they don't keep the same design for a fourth phone in a row. Doesn't have to be a massive change, just a small change from behind. Either add a 6th lens or change something up a little
Apple should allow the user to put the device in a Mac Mini mode when they aren’t wearing it. Just have a dock where it can connect to a Studio Display and wireless keyboard and mouse. Then at least the user has additional functionality that will help justify the price.
8:21 correct me if I'm wrong, but I think live translation as described by David is pretty hard to achieve(or impossible) as grammar works in pretty different ways depending on the language.
Not if you've got a pretty intuitive Ai. I believe live transcription is possible. It may have an acceptable among of latency too miniscule to be an issue. Especially with all those multi model Ai's coming online now. Definitely achievable.
Its great to see all the group back almost after 1 month 🎉🎉🎉
Best team 🖤🖤
@@_daniel.rad_ truly are
I think Samsung and Google are two companies working alongside each other from now on.
@@YummyUnicornOfficial maybe but I think they are rivals at the fundamental level
@@Not-to5kf The only things they really compete on are personal assistants (Bixby vs Google Assistant) and phones (Galaxy and non-flagships vs PIxels). Both companies are very diverse and have money tied up in many other ventures. Google's overlap with Samsung is a very minute part of their business, so I'd have to disagree with them being 'rivals at the fundamental level'. They compete in certain product areas but overall don't and can both benefit significantly by collaborating to benefit themselves in the areas they don't compete.
"Dead Internet" Theory deserves its own David storytime podcast special episode. Also "what are we even consuming" is the most dystopian phrase of the millennia.
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I one hundred percent agree.
It's a nice theory and actually not impossible.
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42:22 I was a firefighter. The Vision Pro comes in at about 22 oz, which is 1 lb, 6 oz (650 g). I used to wear a fire helmet that was about 56 oz (3.5 lbs as a naked helmet, though most firefighters have a flashlight, wedges, and other things on their helmet), or just under 3x as heavy, for hours while battling fires. I learned that balance was as important to the heavy “feel” as the weight itself. Both are heavy, but I wonder if the battery is moved to the back of the unit instead of your pocket if it would feel less heavy. I think you’re feeling the stretch in the back of your neck and that would lessen somewhat with better front/back balance.
I think you’re onto something. Something that I really loved about the first PSVR is that they put a counterweight in the headband. It helped balance the weight and it didn’t feel like I had a brick on my face.
When I bought my Quest 2, it was SO uncomfortable. It just had a fabric strap and it was so painful to wear for long periods of time. I bought the elite strap, which basically just looked like another counterweight headband similar to the PSVR, and I can now wear my Quest 2 for hours
@@IronBran123Wear.
NOT where.
Yeah but the helmet also wraps around your head and goes on top of it The vision is strapped on so most of the weight is focused on the front of the device and you don't really want it moving around or shaking on your head you want it to be pretty stiff in place when you're using it otherwise everything's going to be bouncing around in your vision
@@IronBran123 1000% also I got the elite strap with battery for quest 2 which I was originally con cearned was going to be a problem because of the extra weight. but I've never had an issue because yep it feels perfect tly balanced since the external battery is at the back of the head. The hard shell type bike helmet tightening ratchet thing of the elite strap is something I absolutely love and is a real game changer because of the comfort and security.
You're also comparing being a built firefighter to a bunch of stick nerds :D
Google seemed way more involved in this particular Samsung event/product launch than they ever have been. Seems like they've really settled into collaboration.
Google is using Samsung to fight IOS/Apple. and Samsung has a good chances of actually wining in the end Since Samsung is not in direct fight with apple
@@vari217 There is not fight, iOS and Android are different platforms
@@vari217Winning? What is winning?
Winning the market, there is a fight though
@@MarioPortillo-r6tthere isn’t. iOS and Android are two different platforms.
David shouting "daddy!?" is expected to be on the soundboard is my guess.
Agreeeeeee😂
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@@ΒύρωναςΛαδιάς at 26:44 someone says daddy. I literally saw the comment, randomly tapped a section of the video, and that's what I heard. Idk if it's the same one.
Omg I thought of the exact same thing
Other regions outside of USA/CA etc. are getting Exynos 2400 on the S24/S24+, like in EU and SEA. And fun fact, there are UA-camrs who have already done gaming tests, it outperforms the S24U's 8 Gen 3 on AVERAGE while running slightly cooler. It seems that Samsung has finally fixed Exynos' issues
I'm just really annoyed that they disabled Wi-Fi 7 on all non-ultra models cause of the Exynos
I’ll need to see nom UA-camrs testing. If you got the phone early you won’t say bad things
@@vinayak1998th Bro who cares about wifi 7 , it's not even available for 99% of the population.
@@toptiertech7291UA-camrs who get phones early say bad things all the time. They are incentivize not to, and I'd be interested to see which channels did the benchmarks.
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That was my favorite last 3-5 minutes of a waveform episode. And I totally agree that Andrew deserved the point. Signed: “a person of the internet”
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David was too accurate impersonating an old Japanese man😂
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10 years later I still get chills from this
Just imagine showing the Vision Pro to somebody in the 1700s, saying their minds would be blown is a massive understatement. Humans have created some really incredible things, we are living in previous generations wildest dreams
You’d have the same reaction from showing them a Ford Pinto.
Nah they wouldn’t understand it, I feel like if you showed it to early computing pioneers from the 50s to 80s would be absolutely blown away
You don't have to go that far, just go to the 1980s. 🤣
To be fair you don’t have to go that far behind lol ,even 40-50 years ago ,people wouldn’t believe this was possible and wouldn’t understand what it is
VR headsets been around for 10 years now but ok.
Samsung literally just duplicated most all of Google's AI features, like magic editor, recorder transcription, summarizer, and live translation. I would really like to see some tests to see which one can perform better though...
Bro dint they said they r partner of Google ....so isn't it obvious
Yes, I think Samsung is trying to combine google ai in Thier products for something new
Are you new here? This is Samsung MO... They copy others and get away with it. Quite literally copying is what set them off to become such a dominant smartphone company dating all the way back to the infamous Apple lawsuit (which Samsung lost).
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Bruh the AI is literally operating on Google's Gemini model,
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I think Samsung and Google are two companies working alongside each other from now on.
I'm not made at it. I've had Samsung galaxys since the S3 but I've thought about trying the pixels, but now, I don't really have to I guess.
David definitely had some coffee lol he was so hyper this time around 😆
I’ve always been really into the idea of VR but never able to enjoy it fully despite owning the Quest 2, 3 and PSVR 2 because neither Meta nor PlayStation made these headsets with IPD ranges that incorporate my vision. The Vision Pro specs that were released this morning confirm that Apple’s focus on user experience and optics will create accessibility for people like me with narrower or wider IPD. I pre-ordered mine this morning
Hey good for you man! I hope it works out
S24 Ultra is Snapdragon globally. S24 & s24+ will have Exynos 2400 variants outside of North America.
Nice to see everyone back by the way. 😁
Genuinely loved David's story at the end about using Google translate to communicate with the Japanese taxi driver....feel like we need to hear more fun stories about some of you guys' travels and trips
Thanks for the story & pictures David, I love that Andrew got that point ☺
I think the nitpicking over the voice translation not being "live" doesn't take into consideration that with translating, you also have to consider the grammatical/word order conversion you have to do as well with people who speak a different language. That alone requires some latency for someone to finish a statement before you can properly translate. So i don't think "live" translation will ever be immediate, 1:1 as someone is talking.
2:28 Samsung said in the briefings that non-US,China, SK (and probably a couple more) markets are getting an exynos version for non-Ultra devices
It's the Eames Lounge chair designed by Ray and Charles Eames, the reason it's so renowned is that it was a huge step forward in manufacturing with their steam bent moulded plywood, plus it's just gorgeous. They were big into cheap, functional and beautiful design. love you guys love the show 👍
Thank you!
Also It's the model of expensive chair you get on The Sims games. Not officially but a very similar one
26:37 this should be a gif😂
The S24 and S24+ have Exynos in Europe and SEA. Ultra is SD 8 G3 worldwide
The exynos version is for Europe. For the regular i belive.
Also SEA region
I just pre-ordered a Vision Pro this morning. Looking forward to using it in 2 weeks!
What are you planning to use it for?
Regarding Vision Pro feature questions:
1. The Quest allows you to stream live video to an iPad using their app. This proves extremely useful when friends demo the device, as you are able to walk them through how to use it. I’d imagine when you did your demos, Apple employees were able to see what you were looking at, but will that be available for consumers using Vision Pro, on Apple TV, for example?
2. I realize in your demos you were able to look at your own recorded spatial video from your iPhone 15 Pro, but I wonder: will spatial video recorded natively on the Vision Pro actually have a more pronounced 3D effect, as the distance between the lenses on the Vision Pro is farther than the distance between the lenses on the iPhone?
3. Does the Vision Pro allow you to accept phone calls like on a Mac or iPad, for example? How do they sound?
4. If logged in as a guest on the Vision Pro, what does iMessage or FaceTime do? Or if you’re letting a guest use your Vision Pro, how would you be able to share a spatial video with them for them to watch it while in guest mode?
5. I’m curious how the Eyesight feature would work for someone like Nick Fury, either with an eyepatch on, or with a disfigured eye (how does it display that?)
6. How do notifications appear? For example, if you’re in an immersive experience (like Disney+ at Avengers tower) and you receive a FaceTime or an iMessage, how does it appear?
7. To your point of the device being heavy, one highly requested feature on Quest is the ability to watch a movie while laying on your side (so the room perspective “rotates” 90°, does the Vision Pro allow you to do that?
Thank you! Great job on the podcast, fellas!
I am a Samsung Knight and have been for years and Samsung and Android offers so much value and innovation I can never return to IOS
The chair David mentioned is the Herman Miller Eames chair.
My favourite piece of furniture.
Umm. Vision Pro weighs less than Quest Pro. And only 1/4lbs heavier than Quest 3.
I like this weight thing is being overblown. Just like AirPods Max.
All the journalists, including you guys, were very focused on the weight of AirPods Max when it was released. No one I know has any complaints about the weight of AirPods Max.
I do understand the weight not being spread out with a battery in the rear makes it feel different. But you guys are making it seem like it is some crazy amount heavier than other VR headsets.
about live translation, i don’t think what David is suggesting about taking a voice map and making it into different languages is not that big of a leap - it would be a HUGE advancement, languages are extremely complex and have so many unique and different sounds that change the meaning of words in different languages. some of these sounds we don’t even get close to making in english. i think it would have to be an extremely advanced program to take the sounds of english from an english voice map and make them all of the sounds of other languages.
S24 and S24+ still have Exynos in Europe, which sucks.
I would love to see sport events take advantage of the vision pro and implement 360 degree cameras that would allow users to feel like they are at the event on the sideline or on the front row of the game. That said I hope they are able to address the weight issue.
I feel like for the nfl it wouldn't be great but for something like Tennis it would be amazing, or even like golf that it will follow the player around and then you can switch to the normal camera once the player has hit it would be awsome
If they could do this with the sky cam for American football games, I'd think about it just for that lol
For two people owning the headset?
They probably will address the weight issue, but several generations later
Gotta get extra batteries for the game
@@stevorellanasky cam or NBA courtside
1:14:57 David, that feeling is accurate.. you lucky the place had internet connectivity😂😂😂
Is it too much to ask for a Google play edition Samsung galaxy s24
Kinda insane that the "most impressive thing to do" on a vision pro is watching media right now.
yeah and that is for all that price and weight on your face...
Not sure why Marques is saying it’s heavy like that when other VR he has used is heavier. I think it might be the fit more than anything.
Also, the killer feature is AirPlay. It would be much cheaper to buy it than to buy multiple high quality big displays. Also, for adobe apps creatives like me, omg that capability makes the sky be the limit
From an S22 ultra user, I think the S23 U would be the better buy for me. The AI stuff is adequate but the clause will expire in 2025. I am a curved display fan and reallylike how the curve is minimal on the S23 ultra
As an S22 user- actually a Samsung ecosystem member for their entire life... I'd suggest buying the OnePlus 12...
The weight will be the single biggest issue with Vision Pro. All of the headsets I've used were lighter than this and they were barely comfortable enough to wear for an hour.
Bad day but wavefrm pod notification pops 😍
Got the Vision Pro with a mid-Feb delivery. Will only keep if I end up using it everyday. Otherwise, will sell it or return it. If it cant become part of my daily use, the price would be hard to justify.
why you got it then? Don't you loose some money when selling it?
Do you have an idea how you will use it everyday?
can you connect Bluetooth keyboard to vision pro? cuz it should technically fix the not feeling the keyboard problem right?
We have to wait and see
Ngl I'm kinda watching this pod to enjoy the last bit of the pod cause it so damn hilarious 😂 Good job guys 🫶lysm 🙌
It’s hard to imagine instantaneous translation unless the AI can very accurately predict what the speaker will say next. I speak Japanese and the grammar kind of operates in the reverse of English so you don’t really know what’s being said until the verb shows up at the end of the sentence. But even a delay would be amazing.
I love this podcast. Its like the wan show but you actually talk about tech
53:22 "If I have my wife, but I don't have a wife"--us bro moment😭
yea..... I don't think wife was the right word for that individual.
It's just as 'heavy' as other vr headsets. Only noticeable if you're not used to other headsets or wearing headgear such as motorcycle helmets
16:37 i thought my phone just malfunctioned there😂
Live translation feature is not something you use daily, but it saves lives when really needed. Just like fall and crash monitors.
RE: Language translation in real time: It's probably not ever going to actually happen due to languages being structured differently. I'm sure there are some language pairings that are near-perfect 1:1 translations, but it's not particularly realistic.
THANK GOD - The iPhone 12 Mini still HERE :D
LOVE IT!
Nothing like a Friday with the WVFRM family to take up my lunch break🎉
I've heard the weight issue so much that it might actually become a deal breaker...
Cyberpunk 2077 players will understand perfectly Vision Pro's blue reflection in the eyes lol
i listen to you guys on spotify , but always come here to watch the outro haha.
Can y’all do the a-z keyboard challenge using the eye typing method on the studio channel?
13:03 I am surprised Marques found the google on screen search "new" and only compared it to the google now tab. The pixel phones also show the search on screen option when you trigger Google assistant and you can select anything on the screen using the selection rectangle, and the search is instant too. But it is more convenient in the way samsung has done it tho.
Caseless phones is lowkey flexing how much money you have
Question: All the software magic that Samsung is doing on new S24. Can it not be done in S23 too with a software update?
Only the cloud-based AI features will be able to run on the S23 series. The on- device ones like Live Translate and Note Assist will not likely be coming to the S23 series because they are baked into the hardware, the Snapdragon Gen 3 for Samsung. That said, Circle to Search will be coming to S23 with the One UI 6.1 update.
I tired to pre-order my Vision Pro this morning at 5am. I did the face scan -- and had to do it a few times cause it wouldn't scan correctly. It WAS nice that Apple offers Reader lenses. When I got it in the cart at $4500 after taxes and accessories, my Apple Card was declined. To try with another card i had to start ALL OVER again because I had chosen monthly payments on Apple Card. And then once I got back to the Bag and tried to purchase with a different card, it was also declined. I know I had enough limit on both. By that time, I couldn't get one on release date -- it was not to be shipped mid-February. So I just gave up and didn't order thinking another card would be declined.
I have very recently started watching the podcast! Go S24😁😁! Also, I love the integration of Galaxy AI! To add, my favorite thing is Photo Assist (I am excited for all the new features) and I feel like Circle to Search will be the most widely used featured. Will have many sales and pre-orders. Excited for the Samsung Galaxy S24! Galaxy AI is here!
I think the purpose of Apple Vision Pro is to get a head start on spatial computing as a medium. It will be seen as the grandfather of the platform that killed the smartphone/laptop/tablet/and tv. Eventually lightweight glasses will collapse a lot of hardware into one device much like smartphone did once upon a time but on a larger scale. Apple vision pro is the first step to that.
is there a drastic difference between it and other VR\AR headsets?
Don't buy in a different name for the existing technology.
@@MrKinein Apple Vision Pro is a part of a myriad of different devices all trying to get to the same end goal starting from different angles. Some people are going full headsets that are like standalone computers like meta and apple, some are doing slim glasses that are just vr displays mainly or camera ai glasses with meta ray bans, eventually headsets will slim down closer to glssses and glasses will get more capable like headsets. A race to meet in the middle on form and capability. Eventually we’ll get to where we all see this going!
@@lilmichael212 yeah it's true and closer than one might think. For example Bigscreen beyond is almost glasses like and still full VR headset, and in opposite new xreal ultra glasses are coming from glass side and added VR foundations - controls and head tracking
36:22 as an architecture student I literally cannot wait for this product it could change the whole industry
why all previous VR headsets didn't change them?
@@MrKineindidn’t hve the same hype
@@readabookdummy I think it could change the industry only if it would have mass adoption. Probably not first gen, but who knows what could happen in 2026 for example
I miss curved screens, yes there was off axis stuff but the feel when you swiped back and hand was so much better
Accidental touches were horrible and also accessories like cases and glasses
FYI Samsung phones actually do have their own version of call screening. The only thing good about Bixby. It came i believe pretty quietly in OneUI5 or 5.1
Feel like Apple is going to have to switch the materials to make it lighter for the next iteration . If you can’t use it for more than 30 minutes at a time sounds Ike a deal breaker to me especially at 3,500.
As a Nigerian that has the first 20 elements of the periodic table drilled into my brain constantly for about 10 years, it's was a shock to me that realize titanium isnt one of the first 20 elements.
Re: the Vision Pro, folks repeatedly mention "playing a game" on it, just as a general use-case and how that might be tough due to the weight. My question is: What games will be available on the Vision Pro? I haven't heard anything about game announcements, but since reviewers keep alluding to games, I assume Apple has talked about that?
Also, how much *does* the VP actually weigh? And what's the resolution? Refresh rate? Field of view? Is all this info still NDA'd?
Hi, I'm no Marcus and haven't used VP. However I try to answer from what I know:
Facts:
- they will give you some "experiences" that are interactive, but not games. Like virtual butterflies landing on your finger, and dinosaur roaring at you in 3D. It was in apple video that was just released.
- they will allow you to play playstation 5 games. They said it on initial announcement. It is flat playstation games, with playstation dualsense joystic. You need to buy it separately. It will be a remote play.
- it will have 23 million pixels resolution, 600-650 grams weight excluding battery in your pocket, 80-100 hz refresh rate. They have technical specifications.
My opinion:
Field of view probably will be around 100 degrees. Forget about the games here. This device is not for it. But there are VR headsets that are good with games
8:50 My wife literally duo lingo'd for 2 months straight just so she could call a restaurant in Venice to make a reservation 😂 this would have definitely made that process easier.
the part about the exploded F1 car got me thinking that you could probably make a pretty cool car mechanic sim game
Well if the Vision Pro is this impressive on its first go around then I’m excited to see what the Pro 2-3 with a bigger battery, lighter weight, more apps to use.
Believe me. I'm a huge picky tech guy and the only impressive tech that came from 21st century is easily vr/ar or spacial computer because is the device that is not just another cheap sidegrade to pc desktop but something that has much more potential that can easily dethrown it with some improvement and time
In India the s24 and s24+ have the Exynos 2400! Really wanted to buy the S24 but will wait for some reviews now to see how well the exynos 2400 performs and if it throttles like the older exynoses! ✌️
Buying an S24 with Indian wages doesn't sound like a smart idea. Better wait till Xiaomi or Motorola release their Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 phones, then wait a few more months, as the price drops quite fast for those manufacturers, and you get basically the same as an S24 but for half the price. Probably faster charging too.
@@cube2fox buddy ppl earning like 30000Rs(360.90 US Dollar) per month are buying iphones like crazy on emi(monthly payments) cus its a StAtUs sYmbOL
@@cube2fox Agree with you partly! Good software support and Smallish screen size are my top priority that's why i was thinking about buying S24. Don't like miui/hyper os. Might look at Motorola though! ✌️
3:07 that’s the wrong phone in the footage
Circle to search is coming to Pixel 8 and 8 Pro on January 31st as well
How can they be so wrong about processor in S24. It has Exynos version as well
If Google and Samsung are offering 7 years of Android updates, it just means that Android won't see major enough updates that requires better hardware. Take this how you want...
Waiting for Apple fans to justify its not heavy.
To me the biggest obstacle to vision pro is that the Quest 3 does not have the same very high quality screen but good enough to be a good way to watch a 2 hours movie, especially if (like me) you don't have a big/good TV, it's not incredibly comfortable but it's still bearable for that long while costing "only" 500 USD (and you can use it for other things than media consumption)
Quest 3/2 use cases are way more then vision pro. Quest 3 have crazy good games and apps.
I think if you are thinking about media consumption, then both Quest 3 and Apple Vision Pro both bad headsets for it. You need to look for something like Bigscreen Beyond, light and small to wear it for hours
Or just buy a good TV... common!
@@MrKinein well obviously the beyond is better but it cost 1000, need a good computer and isn't wireless and a TV can't be move to your bedroom or on vacation at will, while VP and Q3 can be used alone and anywhere so I still think the use cases are slightly different (but I agree that a good TV is often the better and easier choice)
At least for me I use my quest almost every day to watch series since I have a Q3 but I don't have a TV and it's still better than having to watch things on my phone or PC
Hey, Just a thought, wouldn't it be interesting to have swipe typing, I think eventually it'll come in the VR
the way Goole lens is implemented is almost identical on pixel dievices- for yers you could swipe up to select. it's just square not a circle and not a long pressing which is kinda better- because navigation buttons are just ancient technology at this point
Yeah, I was going to say, I do this on my Pixel all the time with Lens. I can swipe up and search any part of my screen just like this "new" Samsung feature.
I think where the voice translation will really work well is when you're on the phone with someone who likes to talk about you in their native language to someone when they're talking about you. :)
Has this ever happened to you?
@@aktm1407 Yes, that's why I mentioned it.
idk is it just me or is it true that both Andrew & David speak in a valley girl accent.😅
Do you guys think that if some of the weight was in the back of the head(more balanced) the weight wont bother you so much?
I never tried to use blood oxygen until it was banned, still worked with latest update
Circle to search is coming to the pixel on January 31st!
Marques needs to start training his weak neck.
In the EU, India and Australia the S24 and S24+ come with an Exynos chip - not a SnapDragon
This is actually big moment for Quest 3, because many will get to know about VR because of media coverage of Apple Vision Pro then they cant buy it cuz too expensive so they try cheaper ones like Quest 3 !
And in the end Quest 3 has more use cases and is lighter
Exynos is here in s24 and s24+
The first talking point about translating live calls is already available since One Ui 5 and the latest bixby and phone updates from November 2023. On any samsung with bixby.
Also you can have a voice map of your own voice on samsung phones that copies your voice for bixby. These arent new features.
I was easily able to buy the Vision Pro 3 hours after pre-orders opened. I just checked, and 20 hours later, the only in-store model that is sold out in my area is the 256GB version. Both the 512GB and 1TB are available for pickup on February 4th.
What are you planning to use it for?
The live translation is awesome if you ever traveled to a country that speaks absolutely no English. Calling the air bnb host, and have them only speak Spanish back to you was always so intimidating... trying to explain that I am outside waiting for them in my broken Spanish😅
It’s the weekend! Thanks to be part of my week
Matt, what’s up?
When Marques says "I have a terrible story" you know the story is about to hit 🤣🤣
i think US, Japan, SKorea & China will have SD 8Gen3 across the board. Rest of the World will have Exynos on S24 & S24+
I can do the "circle to search" feature right now on my s23 just sliding my finger from the bottom corner. It does the same thing but without circling
I absolutely LOVE David's stories! (re: him taking a taxi in Japan)
I was hoping the ultra phones edges were similar to the regular and plus models. It will dig in to your hand. I'm not sure if they'll ever bring back the IR blaster from so many years ago. I also think Samsung should have added a 6th lens, where they kept the 10x and 3x, but added a 5x instead of getting rid of 10x all together. I think Samsung will now keep the 5x for at least the next two ultras as well. I'm just hoping they don't keep the same design for a fourth phone in a row. Doesn't have to be a massive change, just a small change from behind. Either add a 6th lens or change something up a little
Weight: between 600 and 650 grams, depending on head band used, battery 353 grams.
Apple should allow the user to put the device in a Mac Mini mode when they aren’t wearing it. Just have a dock where it can connect to a Studio Display and wireless keyboard and mouse. Then at least the user has additional functionality that will help justify the price.
8:21 correct me if I'm wrong, but I think live translation as described by David is pretty hard to achieve(or impossible) as grammar works in pretty different ways depending on the language.
Not if you've got a pretty intuitive Ai. I believe live transcription is possible. It may have an acceptable among of latency too miniscule to be an issue. Especially with all those multi model Ai's coming online now. Definitely achievable.
@@LeonNeuton imagine what if the places of subject and predicate are interchanged in translations?
@dendemello Am sure all that will be addressed through the Ai learning model.
Can’t wait to see my drone’s panoramas on Vision Pro!