Apos Ray Tubes Review - The Beginning of Their Story & Their Sound

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  • Опубліковано 8 лип 2024
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    Timestamps...
    00:00 Intro, Pricing, Disclaimer
    01:50 Shameless Self Promotion
    02:14 Table of Contents
    03:52 Bottom Line Summary
    06:25 The Story of Ray Tubes...So Far
    17:05 Boxes
    17:48 6SN7 Select Packaging & Pricing
    25:43 6SN7 Select Build
    30:11 6SN7 Sound & Comparisons
    39:45 12AU7 Build
    41:12 12AU7 Sound & Comparisons
    48:14 12AU7 Value
    53:38 Wrap Up

КОМЕНТАРІ • 27

  • @stevemd8947
    @stevemd8947 22 дні тому +1

    I believe the 12AU7 OEM is Psvane Art Series. I own the Art Series in my PS Audio Pre-amp and the sound description is very close to what I have experienced. Thanks for the honest review.

  • @el_arte
    @el_arte 5 місяців тому +13

    Bollocks. The specs of a 6SN7 or 12AU7 are well established, there’s no magic criteria. The only reason why they don’t want anyone to know their origin is because they do not want anyone to figure out their markup.

    • @SgtMjr
      @SgtMjr 4 місяці тому

      Exactly. It's pretty easy to guess that's exactly what's going on here. We have , what, three or four sources for new tubes in the whole world until the few revived tube mfg efforts in the UK and US succeed (or not). So Mr Woo, (what will you do) [sorry couldn't resist] is rebranding Gold Lions and PSVane as 'Ray'. He may be circumventing Russian sanctions importing thru China and may have a deal with JJ in Slovakia.

    • @dzemoski45
      @dzemoski45 2 місяці тому

      Bingo!

    • @YourfriendNextDoor2
      @YourfriendNextDoor2 Місяць тому

      They may get them from same place as TAD

    • @stevemd8947
      @stevemd8947 22 дні тому

      I believe the 12AU7 OEM is Psvane Art Series.

  • @richardatkinson4452
    @richardatkinson4452 5 місяців тому

    Excellent review. In my Freya+ I had a very similar experience. I like these tubes a lot.

  • @YourfriendNextDoor2
    @YourfriendNextDoor2 Місяць тому

    I have the better 12au7 and love them. Glad they sound this good as NOS will be gone one day.❤ using in Wells Audio V8 OTL. That’s his new amp not listed yet.

  • @Nephilim-81
    @Nephilim-81 5 місяців тому

    My goodness. Thank you for telling us about the diameter base of the RAY in the SAGA. I Think a tube socket saver will solve that problem for taking the RAY out of the SAGA+.

  • @JTB--
    @JTB-- 4 місяці тому

    Just got the Ray 6SN7 Select Tube and it really works well in my LYR3. I'm very impressed. Never swapped any Tubes before. It's definitely an improvement over the Tube Schiit includes with it. Snappier Snare Drum and more impactful drums in general. Little more Growl in the guitars. I Like it. Makes a $500 Amp sound like a $1K amp now.. Probably be a nice upgrade for the LYR+ also. btw, needed a Socket Saver for the LYR3

  • @acheresh
    @acheresh 5 місяців тому +1

    great review! what do you think about Genalex Gold Lion tubes (12au7) besides its brightness? Genalex spacial presentation vs. apos tubes (12au7)?

  • @lxmcc
    @lxmcc 5 місяців тому +1

    Been debating a pair of these for my HA-3A - partially just due to the ease over a finding the right NOS tubes. The notes about their brightness is giving me some hesitation though.

  • @hiraksarma3068
    @hiraksarma3068 5 місяців тому +2

    Please review more tranformer coupled tube amps like cayin ha-3a, quicksilver, tor roger, zmf pendant etc

  • @LakerTriangle
    @LakerTriangle 5 місяців тому

    Saw this video drop last night at like 2:30a while I was enjoying my brand new HE1000 Stealth's... I was like 'that can wait - this music is too good' 😅

    • @wavetheorysound
      @wavetheorysound  5 місяців тому +1

      Lol. Good call. After all I do send you off with "Enjoy the music."

  • @jeffbrooke4892
    @jeffbrooke4892 5 місяців тому

    Glad to hear you reinforce the correct idea that tube amps just represent another form amplification with a varied range of presentation and not some form of "boutique" amplification with a specific type of presentation. Tube amplification is highly misunderstood these days.

  • @josephvanalstyne4049
    @josephvanalstyne4049 5 місяців тому +2

    the saga without the tube is passive. it is not solid state driven. it is just passive.

  • @mariodrv
    @mariodrv 5 місяців тому +4

    Please don't touch the pins with your fingers. :S

  • @aceofspades6667
    @aceofspades6667 5 місяців тому +2

    The obfuscation around tubes, pricing, specs, matching, and lineage is maddening. It’s a real turn off thinking I could be buying a gold lion tube priced like a takatsuki with apos badge on it. I understand this likely isn’t the case just making a point.

    • @ceylonmooney
      @ceylonmooney 11 днів тому

      that kind of transparency would make the price gouging just a little bit more obvious but a lot more scandelous.

  • @jaybrodnax
    @jaybrodnax 5 місяців тому

    Everything I read says not to touch tubes with bare hands...

  • @j-rod6420
    @j-rod6420 Місяць тому

    Psvane

  • @frankgeeraerts6243
    @frankgeeraerts6243 23 дні тому

    You DON'T need matched tubes in every circuit.................for real close matching one may need to calibrate testing of 20 up to 50 tubes to match ONE perfect pair , there are balanced matched tubes and matched sections tubes ..........price will be different .
    a matched pair is not necesary a perfect pair of tubes , inferior tubes can also be perfectly matched . there's a lot of confusion, incompetence or fraud / malpractice on the tube market especialy with so called nos tubes .

  • @ohyesitsme
    @ohyesitsme Місяць тому

    If they didn't have all the BS they could sell these Chinese tubes for a lot less. and who wants RAY plastered on the bottle especially if you called your tubes Frank

    • @ceylonmooney
      @ceylonmooney 11 днів тому

      they can sell them for a lot less as is.