BlazBlue X Guilty Gear - Build the Roster
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
- Mankind knew they could not get the crossover game they wanted.
So instead of reflecting on themselves, they just made a new Build the Roster on it.
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0:00 - Fight for the Future Charity Stream
1:20 - Intro
5:14 - How Many Characters and How Would it Play?
10:15 - The Roster
56:30 - DLC
1:07:34 - Wrapping Up - Ігри
Watching this in the future and hearing "someone we havent seen in a while" then Baiken and Testament show on screen is kinda hilarious
Also Bridget.
Baiken was also literally in Xrd Rev. 2.
Were is taokaka
@@kevincruz4888 And I wonder if they bring the eng dub back… who’s gonna voice her? 💀
And now we have asuka as a playable character
Chipps background is so hilarious to me. A former drugseller and canonically a stereotypical weeb who tends to misinterpret japanese culture as he tries to immitate it and declared himself as *president* of a *kingdom* that he founded and named after himself. He also holds an annual national haiku contest.
I love him.
Idk weather it was him or answer who got south Africa in order
Wait, sooo
"Welcome to the country of CHIPP." (?)
@@GenericProtagonist118 It's called the "Eastern Chipp Kingdom".
But it doesn't have a king. He calls himself president. But he wasn't elected. And there is no "Western Chipp Kingdom" in sight.
It's really dumb and I adore it.
@@GumshoeClassic sounds like a Chuunibyou made country. And this is funny to me.
What does Chipp’s butchering of Japanese culture look like?
Okay, just throwing this out there...
Slayer v. Valkenhayn
1000 year old dandy vampire vs. 1000 year old fancy werewolf
I mean, that would just be awesome to me
I’m honestly surprised he didn’t choose those two.
Hell, I even expected the Slayer/Azrael match up just because I know Azzy would absolutely love to throw hands with him.
And then afterwards Slayer and Valkenhayn become best friends over their appreciation for "the finer things in life".
If I don't shit my pants I get a 50
Trick or Treat
First eve
Where's my candy
DLC season 2?
I kind thought Naoto and Slayer interaction imagine Naoto as Slayer unwilling student .
This is one of those “it makes too much sense to crossover, so we won’t” like a Tekken vs Virtua Fighter, MK vs KI, or Melty Blood vs Fate Stay Night.
Correct despite the fact the guys at Arc System have stated repeatedly "Blazblue X Tag Battle was made to see if fans would be interested in a pure tag-team crossover title that is Guilty Gear X Blazblue."
@@derrickhaggard did it work? Maybe.
Well at least blazblue x GG and Melty x Fate would only involve a single company with the rights to the properties each, so it would be fairly feasible...
Wouldn't capcom vs snk count as a "make too much sense" game?
@@rodrigomorales563 Yes.
“Chipp was done dirty.”
*Thats not what all the tier lists say.*
Everyone realized the truth..
No invisibility? No problem.
Hi I'm from the future
I can confirm he's still a bit of an issue
GGXBB story Will starts like this
Sol: * found Ragna's wanted poster *
Sol: Sorry, you know Who Is this guy?
Every BlazBlue characters: Who Is this guy?
Sol: ...
Ragna in the azure gate: ahahahahahaha, bitch
i can just imagine that
sol:finally found you
raggy:who tf are you
sol:doesnt matter just here for your bounty
raggy:oh ok *sends him back to the start*
The ultimate technique to surviving a bounty.
@@deathbringer9893 Sol: WTF HOW?!?!
Ragna: i recreate the universe asshole
@@sium1241 Sol: Big woop. I shrugged off being ERASED FROM EXISTENCE!!!
@@NoahDaArk you mean when Sol fought himself in the past?
Me who has never played a BlazBlue or Guilty Gear game:
ah, hmm, yes, great choice, makes sense, 10/10 roster.
Do it.
Guilty gear is great never played blaze blue tho
@@pleaseshutup7053 I've played both but I love Blazblue a bit more
@@SEiMEi_EXiSTS okay for a second I thought you told someone to shut up lol
Both are fun from the 1 games I have played.
I played Cross tag battle and Acore + R
Okay I love the idea of Sol Badguy's drive being a taunt that lets him transform after 5 uses, but it's gotta be 6 instead so that he can say D-R-A-G-O and N with every use with him yelling install on the sixth, you could even have the letters be next to the super meter as a cool way of representing it!
It can be like RUMBLE from r2r lmao
If that makes it to hard for the player base to use then they can make it either "D-E-V-I-L" for 5 uses "R-O-C-K" for 4, "Y-O-U" for 3 and finally "F-U" for the TURBO mod
Image D-R-A-G and on the 5th use you shout ON
You can't have Zato without Millia. Millia currently is Zato's only reason for fighting and being alive.
DLC?
What’s the back story?
@@LunaMinuna
Short version: Millia was zatos girlfriend and abusived by him. She kills him. Eddie wants to bring him to life but zato doesn't care about living. He lost all his memories in dying but remembers Millias name so he comes back to life with strong desire to protect Millia.
Long version: Millia Rage was in abusive relationship with zato so in return for the abuse by him she kills him however eddie (zatos demon inside him) keeps his body alive but is puppeting his body. Zato's body is still decaying tho so eddie figures the only way to keep his body alive is to revive zato. Eddie talks to zato in his subconscious and says that zato has to be the one controlling the body but zato doesn't care if he lives or dies as he can't remember anything so nothing matters. He remembers one thing though and that's the name Millia. He doesn't know who Millia is since he's lost all his memories but has the strong desire to protect this person named Millia and to do that he comes back alive with his goal being to protect Millia not remembering the abusive stuff he did but turns out to be a pretty nice guy.
@@jjuicy_wee_wee3800 CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT
@@that_dwayneee I feel like there would be a good story moment where Zato realizes who he was and has a full blown mental breakdown as he realizes the *real* reason he remembers Millia's name... but then he fights his past self and decides to be a better person now then he was before
HEAVEN OR HELL
THE WHEEL OF FATE IS TURNING
DUEL 1
ACTION!
Let's rock
No its
THE WHEEL OF FATE IS TURNING
HEAVEN OR HELL? LETS ROCK
THE WHEEL OF FATE IS TURNING, WILL IT BE HEAVEN OR HELL? REBEL ONE! LETS ROCK! ACTION!
FIRST CLAUSE! FIGHT!
CAN’T ESCAPE FROM CROSSING FATE! ACTION!
OH EGADS! MY ROAST IS RUINED!
In Japanese, with Woz’s voice: NOW, NOW, LOSING YOUR TEMPER IN THE MORNING RAISES YOUR BLOOD PRESSURE.
In Japanese, with Geiz’s voice: DO I LOOK LIKE A HORSE?
Honestly when I was thinking of a Noel counterpart I always thought Jack-O because of the similarities between the murakumo units and the Valentines but Dizzy probably makes more sense lol
She seems more like Elphelt
@@chrismanning2888 Any of the valentines could honestly fit pretty well, I went with Jack-O just bc she's the most important atm but all of them have a good case
Ramlethal even has basically the same job as Noel now lol
personally I feel like excluding both Axl Low and Taokaka from both the Base Roster AND the DLC is a bit sad, they're both relatively popular mainstays.
and kokonoe
Funny enough, Arc has been talking about a crossover, but they held it off due to story reasons.
Yeah, basically they want to get both into the same state, so to speak
"Story reasons?"
Aren't crossovers in general just passed off as non-canon in regards to all franchises involved?
@@liamwhittaker8691 Well, according to Daisuke, he didn't want a crossover yet because "they haven't reached that point yet".
Whether it means to make crossover Canon, or just think they need to have a special occasion (like how as of now, both Ragna and Sol have been decommissioned and thus need non-canon reason to fight again). It was said long time ago though, so that needed to be kept in mind.
@@axelwust9376 I think right now it's the best time to do it. Both Sol's and Ragna's story have been concluded in the latest games.
@@thepronoob4039 It has to start with Ragna being a guest character in strive though. If the big crossover is gonna happen we're gonna need some big setup first
Feel like we're in the best point for it know, BBCF concluded Ragna's story and Strive has wrapped up Sol's. Perfect time for a side story.
In terms of BlazBlue' puppet characters, I'd probably put in Relius over Celica, if only because I'd like to see him and That Man out-schemeing each other in the story
Just imagine two card fighting games anime super smart villains that each turn outsmart outsmarting . That it , that’s how I see That Man’s and Relius interaction.
Celica isn't even a puppet character though
@@Aku_158 mechanically speaking, I know that. That's another reason I would put in Relius, because I disagree with Thorgi's reasoning for skipping out on the Clovers
even though That Man was the good guy all along and was just trying to do whats right lmao
I want him for his Astral, that alone justifies him being in
I would love to see your take on a J-stars/Jump Force 2 roster since the idea of a shonen jump all stars fighting game could work so well as long as its handled under the right hands, which I think you can make a great roster for
Personally, I think it would be interesting to see a jump game in super smash bros style, I'm actually building a roster for it in the subredddit r/buildtheroster that I created
Sounds interesting but I hope the underrated guys like Tsuna and Allen Walker are in this dream roster
@@jspeedstar1129 WHAT are you talking about?
@@guilhermefranco2930 Just replaying to this comment and when I meant underrated guys I mean they're from series that became underrated and not really well known but still have its fans
@@guilhermefranco2930 That already happened. Look up Jump Ultimate Stars. I want a direct sequel
Ky win quote against Jin. Ky: We both looked into the abyss. You let what it showed bring you down to this path. There is still time for you to learn to be better.
Isn't that supposed to be a reference to JL: Crisis on Two Earths where Batman is fighting Owlman?
@@garouchill6872 yes
Ky: We both stared in the abyss Jin. But when the abyss looked back… you blinked
@@NoahDaArk Ky is a bit extra at times.
@@garouchill6872 technically the abyss line existed before that movie.
Ky: You know for a law enforcer who commands ice, you are way too heated and crazed. Jin: What would you know your a royal. Ky: Before that I was a crewsaider and Interpol cop. I know more about law and order then you'll ever know!
THE POPOS HERE
SCREW YOUR RIGHTS
FIRST BEATING
DROPPED YOUR SOAP
@@xidjav1836 lmfao
I know more about order
You are aware what the power of order is right
Jin: Proceeds to kill someone just for jaywalking.
@@k.w.pillsbury4070
Jin: Go ahead blondie! Stop me! Ahahahahaha-!
Ky: Okay... DRAGON INSTALL!
Jin: Dragon what?
*Ky proceeds to slice off both of Jin's legs*
Bonus points if you get that reference
Personally, I would expand your base roster by 6 characters (3 more characters per side) and your DLC selection by four characters (2 more per side).
Guilty Gear:
- Millia Rage: I'm not sure how she slipped past the radar, but she should be in there 100%.
- Axl Low: Same as above.
- Leo Whitefang
- Bridget (DLC)
- Slayer (DLC)
BlazBlue:
- Carl Clover
- Taokaka
- Litchi Faye-Ling
- Es (DLC)
- Jubei (DLC)
All this amounts to a final roster of 42 characters. Not bad, if I do say so myself.
Replace Jubei with Izanami and slayer with A.B.A and you got yourself a deal
Personally I also think if there was ever a big 2 series crossover.
Toakaka should be in the original roster.
When I knew nothing about Blazblue she was the only character I knew about and she seemed to be pretty iconic in the past.
How important is she
Rip my boy Kagura, missing out on a whole new world of women...
Kagura and johnny would be a good pair
Yeah, this is the crossover that's SO obvious yet they just HAVEN'T done it yet! ArcSys isn't against the idea....but apparently there needed to be a prerequisite to be met, specifically "have Sol Badguy's story be concluded" and luckily SPOILERS guess what happened in Strive's story mode!(definitely not as SAD as Ragna's ending but a satisfying one it still is) So this game MIGHT be in our near future eventually.(still enjoyed the video of course)
Also I would really like to see an even more obscure character from GG that's more less known then Testament, Bridget, Zappa or even A.B.A.:Leopaldon from GG Itsuka. Thier design was so unique and weird that I find it a shame that they never went back too it. I'd want em for Strive.
This doesn't sound far fetched. When they finish Strive's DLC... It might be just what happens next
Bridget isn't really obscure now considering the whole "trans" thing
I'd love Zappa the man possessed by countless spirits and Arakune the 'man' possessed by countless insects. Also love the vid and look forward to the next.
How these 2 franchises haven't crossed over yet is something I don't understand. Can't wait to see what's in store.
Speaking of fighting game crossovers, any plans to do a hypothetical roster for Tekken X Street Fighter since news on that was all over the place the last couple of weeks?
They technically have crossed over once in a game called Code Shifter but i heard it wasnt really that good
If TK X SF really happens, then it should be like Tekken Tag Tournament. Also having new teams would be cool to see. Like Sean & Laura, Zangief & Rainbow Mika for Street Fighter. I can't think of new teams for Tekken right now but still I'm down for TK X SF to happen.
we have TxSF already, it's called Super Smash Brothers Ultimate for the Nintendo Switch
I knew I wasn’t the only one who thought of this, BlazBlue was made as the Spritual Successor to Guilty Gear, you think a crossover would be inevitable.
Will Pac-Mech and Bad Box Art Mega Man be returning?
ROSTER TIMESTAMPS
BASE ROSTER
10:23
Sol Badguy (GG)
Ragna the Bloodedge (BB)
Ky Kiske (GG)
Jin (BB)
14:26 Noel Vermillion (BB)
16:15 Dizzy (GG)
19:24 Potemkin (GG)
21:21 Iron Tager (BB)
23:43 Chipp Zanuff (GG)
25:10 Bang Shishigami (BB)
26:59 Hazama (BB)
29:21 I-No (GG)
31:44 May (GG)
33:08 Makoto Nanaya (BB)
34:22 Testament (GG)
36:14 Nu-13 (BB)
37:40 Faust (GG)
39:15 Nine the Phantom (BB)
41:02 Celica Mercury (BB)
42:21 Zato-1 (GG)
43:45 Hakumen (BB)
45:20 Ramlethal Valentine (GG)
47:38 Rachel Alucard (BB)
49:19 Nagoriyuki (GG)
50:59 Azrael (BB)
53:04 Baiken (GG)
55:09 BASE ROSTER RECAP
DLC
57:18 Hibiki Kohaku (BB)
58:57 Jam Kuradoberi (GG)
1:00:56 Bullet (BB)
1:02:13 Giovanna (GG)
1:03:37 Susanoo (BB)
1:05:19 Justice (GG)
1:07:34 DLC SEASON 2
Mai Natsume (BB)
Leo Whitefang (GG)
Tsubaki Yayoi (BB)
Jack-O' Valentine (GG)
Naoto Kurogane (BB)
Order-Sol (GG)
if Platinum, Slayer and Millia are not in the roster i will not buy it
My man put in Hibiki and not Kagura 💀
Damn. No Litchi no buychi.
BRING! BACK! JAM. With her available too they're free to explore the "Noel is terrible at cooking" gag story again as well. Jam has always been a main for me where available.
I can already tell ya what the pre-match announcment would be:
"The wheel of fate is turning! Heaven or Hell! Rebel 1! LET'S ROCK!!!"
I'd personally replace Celica with Kokonoe, Jam with Millia, and sneak Tao in there somewhere. But Bang not being in Cross Tag was the biggest crime committed against humanity so at least that heinous sin was fixed here.
What about Sho and Hibiki not being in BBTAG? Or Chaos and Wagner from UNICLR, or Penny from RWBY??
I'm still kinda salty about this 2 years later
I swear, Jam has no reason to be in Guilty Gear anymore. Her arc completed. And the only reason she got a spot in the Xrd roster was because she served soup to Kum. THAT got a spot, but not LITERALLY stopping one of the bad guys with a self sacrifice. Robo-Ky > Jam
@@k.w.pillsbury4070 at least we can say this much:
Robo-ky is definitely ahead of his time.
@@samuelevans738 True my man.
Huh, I was expecting a certain anime fighter...this is close enough. Actually if you remember his Blazblue Cross Tag Battle video, yeah this was a LONG time coming.
19:06 this is still the greatest scene in the entire GG franchise, cracks me up every time xD
Kind of weird that milla and axl arent included, since theyve been in every game and theyre both pretty important
These are sutch delightful speculations.
Fusing the gameplay to make a 6 button fighter in particular was a great suggestion.
Just imagining the BB cast with dust and GG with Drives is a true delight .
35:02 Actually he is in strive in the background behind Dizzy during the end of story mode when all the characters are shown
would love to see an updated design if nothing else
And Testament's alignment did change to good as he's now an anti-hero with his appearance in the Guilty Gear X games including the DS port of Guilty Gear XX Guilty Gear: Dust Strikers seeing him fighting on the side of good is how he atones for the crimes he committed in the OG Guilty Gear with him keeping an eye on Sol's daughter Dizzy as one of the ways he's atoning for his past crimes. So if the version of Testament for this hypothetical GG X BB game is his Guilty Gear X version then he could as part of the storyline despite wanting to live the life of a somewhat pacifistic hermit in the woods he would pick up the scythe and fight on the side of good against the team of Hazama/Terumi, and I-No as in his mind by fighting for the sake of both innocent humans, and innocent gears is part of him earning atonement for all the crimes he committed in the Guilty Gear 1.
Yeah, since the world has accepted gears as apart of their society due to Ky's efforts.
And guess what, he's a playable character now in Strive.
I'm feeling what Baiken players are feeling right now, I can't play a GG game that doesn't have Axl in it
Yeah why didn’t they keep guilty gear’s signature zoner that’s been in every game
He could also play a big role in the story since he absurdly powerful and capable of time travel.
You’d be surprised how many of those people actually DON’T play Baiken. Buncha fakers.
@@k.w.pillsbury4070 We made it into a universe where this can finally be an invalid statement
@@KaguraHibachi Lotsa changes were made. I thought I’d hate her. Now I don’t.
I personally would include Slayer and Taokaka. Slayer is just an immensely charming person and, as you said, could fit better as a counterpart to Rachel. Meanwhile with Taokaka... I just like her really, but she'd be a great counterpart for May or Faust considering their wacky natures.
Now this is what I've been waiting for, you make such quality videos and I have no idea how you're so underrated
Gameplay wise Arakune would be a good fit for Zato=1, not because of the summoning play style, but also the gooey visual style they have in common.
Also Taokaka would be a good match for Chipp, since both are quick and mostly airborne characters.
I’m okay with either Bang or Tao personally. However it’s kinda clear to me that Tao was being cycled out of the BB’s story.
Zappa would be a better fit for Arakune, I think
Happy chaos because happy chaos
@@Gamer_Lizard_68 😂
@@G-Nius87 It would be a happy chaos move.
“characters for the fans”
Doesn’t include Johnny or kagura
Well kagura is for a good reason, his japanese VA died and none can replicate his charm.
also tao
@@MarsYaco the English dub yeah
This might be a bit of a stretch but I would like to see the interaction between Hazama and Testament. They were both henchman of their series that decided to do their own things once the big bad died/was separated.
I want a Ragna vs Bridgett interaction as one is a bounty and the other is a bountyhunter
This is an awesome roster. My one character I’d want would be Platinum, since I’m a fan of the magical girl genre, and she was seemingly inspired by one of the shows that got me into the genre (Nanoha). I also think she’d be a good fit for May’s rival, being cutesy girls with giant weapons. Though Makoto’s a great pick as well, so I can’t complain.
I really hope ArcSys makes this crossover real at some point. I think I remember hearing they didn’t want to do a GG crossover until they were done with its story? I forget where I heard that, but if that’s the case, we can maybe expect this game soon after that happens, like how BBTag came out shortly after BB’s story finished.
Tbh they seem to be really close to the end of the story now that Strive is out. Without going into details, most of the big story arcs are resolved. It currently ends on a cliffhanger but they already confirmed more to come with the dlc pass and as far as I see it that is probably going to be more of an epilogue to tie up loose ends and maybe set up for a "sequel" of sorts.
So we might see this crossover fairly soon, at least I hope so.
@@GumshoeClassic good to hear. I haven’t been following the story any, but I kinda figured they’d be done soon, considering they finished their newer franchise already.
Yeah no. I’m glad Platinum didn’t get suggested. I honestly cannot understand that anyone likes her in any regards other than visual design. Nothing but detest in my head.
If Platinum gets in, Bridget has to too. I'd love to see how they interact
I was just thinking earlier today what the next episode of this series would be.
In the future, how about a roster for a Nintendo vs Sega fighting game? I think it is fairly likely since Nintendo and Sega have a good relationship with each other.
I just want a mario fighting game specifically, since that's a genera mario specifically and individually hasn't dabbled with yet, and I just wanna see the wide cast of characters do some awesome fighting stuff.
Actually, I know it's not a fighting game, but "build the roster" for mario kart 9 would be just a good of an idea.
@@rodrigomorales563 a Mario fighting game would be pretty cool, but I don’t think it would be a traditional fighting game like Street Fighter or Tekken. Nintendo would probably want to try and do their own thing whilst still making it a fighting game.
@@jonssogaming8255 I just realized that you're probably right. Heck, smash could already be considered that spin. But it's nice to dream about, you know?
@@rodrigomorales563 yeah it is. Don’t lose hope though cause nothing’s impossible.
*Team Sega*
Sonic
Alex Kidd
NiGHTS
Joe Musashi
Kazuma Kiryu
Jack Frost
Any Persona Protagonist
Ryo Hazuki
Arle and Carbuncle
Blaze Fielding
Phantasy Star Hero
Akira
*Team Nintendo*
Mario
Link
Pikachu
Kirby
R.O.B.
Luigi
Ganon
Cinderace
Little Mac
Doc Louis
Spring Man
Ninjara
Always find these Build A Roster videos really interesting. Most of them are for games I don't even play or know much about it - I've never even touched BlazBlue or Guilty Gear - but it's still neat to see all the considerations you give to these rosters and how you balance them and choose which characters get in.
I am here once again to ask for Digimon Rumble Arena 3 - Build the Roster.
Never have I needed something and not known it until now. Given how decent recent Digimon games have been recently, maybe a 3rd would actually be good.
There is a division rumble 1 and 2?
Gotta include the Jotaro lion.
@@Silverwind87 BanchoLeomon
That would be cool but it should play like Pokken Tournament
Thinking more on this list, I feel a big flaw in the roster at least for the GG side, is aside from Nago, there is not a single one appearance only character. Like no bedman, or answer, or A.B.A or Bridget or the like. The roster for the GG side feels very safe except for its exclusions like Johnny or Slayer. That's just me tho, it didnt feel like there was any wild card picks
it's a Crossover Fighter it has to be basic for it to work
as DLC the wild card can be picked
@@kurozunakabuto9682 he has said in other videos how that creates a bland roster.
Also the closest we get to a wild card in the dlc is Jack-O and thats still fairly tame.
@@brandnamepending4817 well I'm using BBTAG as a comparison point and looking at the roster from start to end
The wild card in that game is the Extra member like Heart,Yumi,Akatsuki and Blitztank
But the starting roster is very basic and looking at the actual strating roster(the characters in the story mode) it's a good chunk of each
@@kurozunakabuto9682 eh id disagree sinc the mere fact rwby was thete was the wilf card and also that game was super dlc scummy
@B Chu see i dont count order sol bc im tired of fighting him online lol.
Plus he was the last dlc character and i am thinking more base roster
Pretty good job, only problem with this roster is that millia isn't in it.
Millia will be missed
Sequel maybe?
Having Zato in and no Millia is like a literal crime.
Perfect
Having no stompy snake man is the real crime
This series is so damn addictive. Liked and subbed!!! I first watched Capcom v Snk 3 and loved it!
"Well time for the last GG rep. Probably gio or milia for the fans"
Me a baiken player: "A MAN OF THE PEOPLE"
Personally I’m not a big baiken fan but hey good thing I have a choice to not play her
In this Behemoth Typhoon Goldlewis steals a spot on the roster
Ah yes a Baiken player
Definition
A person who spends infinitely more time demanding baiken be added to the next guilty gear than actually playing her
@@_Sinduss true and based. Baiken players mostly play chip
Do you actually play her though?
They should call it “Arc X”
Cross arc
No they shouldnt.
@Tadamichi Goto agreed. I would like to see an entire arc systems crossover game.
Your quality of production is so high. This channel is severely under-rated.
I find it weird that Millia Rage isn't part of the roster.
Yeah that is very weird. Especially since they add Zato into the roster, but not Millia. She wasn’t even mentioned in the DLC section of the video. Either they didn’t think about her that much or just straight up forgot.
Yeah, Axl too. For as much as he mentioned the time travel aspects of Hakumen and I-No, you’d think he’d at least mention the resident time traveller as DLC. Having both Millia and Axl out is weird for sure.
@@thetimeboy3492 and bridgett, he would be a great contrast to Hazuma gameplay wise since both have the same gimmick but go completely separate ways with it.
Giovanna as well as Jam in the DLC pass is a mediocre idea, replace Giovanna or Jam with Millia.
@B Chu
Definitely need Axl here too.
"It's been almost 20 years since [Testament] popped up"
"Guilty Gear is a very story driven game, meaning if the character doesn't fit the story, then they probably won't be in here."
Mephiles: Oh how ironic fate can be.
So, about Testament not showing up...
*that aged badly*
He protecc
He attacc
But most importantly.......HE FUCKING CAME BACK
Thorgi’s Arcade you are an awesome man of outstanding culture your channel is absolutely brilliant. Keep doing your thing my dude.
Great video, Thorgi. I’m really digging this series. I think a good idea for a Build a Roster episode you could have fun with would be for a Digimon fighting game. Could work as a 3v3 or 1 on 1. Only rules I could think to apply is to pick humanoid Digimon only, and ignore the power levels of various Digimon. Meaning we could have a match between Angemon (Champion level), Weregururumon (Ultimate level) and Wargreymon (Mega level). And there’s a lot of awesome looking Digimon to pick from so you’d have ALOT of fun picking fighters.
Imagine thinking chipp is bad in strive.
Were u recording this during the beta
Bold words for someone in Hammer/kara buster distance
@@xidjav1836
Chipp's still one of the best characters in Strive with his limited defensive values.
I was expecting this someday and I'm hype to watch this
Just wanted to thank Thorgi for putting this video out, since its release I got into both Guilty Gear and BlazBlue's lore and now I know both franchises enough to understand the situation with 'em.
Dizzy: "Child... you too, bear hidden power. Show me, let me see if I can help you master it."
Noel: "No... Don't come closer! Don't make me hurt you!"
You forgot to talk about Drive abilities for Dizzy, Chip, May, Faust, Nago, Baiken, and Justice.
Nine, Testament, Zato & Dizzy would def be my go to’s. All I’d be missing is Milica Rage.
Perfect roster 💪💪 justice at the end was excellent, one of my favorite characters I'd love to see comeback
I know nothing about either of these games, but this was a lot of fun nonetheless. This is a fantastic series and look forward to what you do next.
Just wanted to help with rival stuff, so here's some thoughts on the stuff you got stumped on.
Testament vs nu 13: the former puppet of Justice vs. The puppet of hazama.
Faust vs. Nine: a doctor who went insane but regained his sanity vs. The mage genius who was corrupted by madness and not willing to comeback to the light.
Celica vs zato : the key to the future vs the key to resurrection. Or the person brought back to save the world vs the person resurrected only to test the possibility and was meant to die and didn't and is able to redeem himself.
Hakumen vs ram: the hero of lore who lost it all vs the doll who gained emotion and therefore got everything to live her life as she wants to. Or what you said about the boundary and the backyard.
Baiken vs azreal: the beastly woman with bloodlust toward one individual (that man) vs the beastly man with bloodlust toward all who are deemed strong by him.
Dlc section
Hibiki vs jam: the right hand man to an official who dutifully serves vs. The woman who works for only herself and her restaurant.
Bullet vs Giovanna: the mercenary who hates beastkin vs the secret service agent shamin who channels a dog.
Appreciate your work as always, thorgi, and have a great day, everybody.
Well for two franchise I know some things about thanks to hype, hearsay, Death Battle, Cross Tag, and FGC knowledge, but not a whole ton of, this was pretty informative and fun, alongside the chat. Good luck with the Charity Stream
Zappa I feel is the Guilty Gear character who'd benefit most from the Drive button. Having his ghosts be random but controllably random would be the ideal way to fully balance out that little mechanic of his. Also just seeing his animations in 2.5D would be an absolute treat.
I hope he comes in Strive's 3rd season 😢
@@docthefaust4519Zappa for season 3, we've got 2 more shots
I am so glad I found this channel I love this
None of My favorite characters from either franchise made the cut, still loved the vídeo thought. Well done
The reason they connect should be called “the arc system” or something like that. Cause the developers lol
Love the series, it's the whole reason I found and began to enjoy your content. I have an idea for a Roster, but it depends...Do they have to be a game that can REALISTICALLY happen, or can they be purely hypothetical? Cause my need to see a DC vs Shonen Jump and a Cartoon Network fighter are **VERY** strong
Great video, with the one caveat that Chipp is probably either the second or third best character in Strive right now, even with the least health in the game.
I think that there's a pretty clear way for Sol's drive move to be animated, him loosening his headband. That's how he used to go into Dragon Install in the older games. So every time he does the taunt, he loosens the headband slightly more and more which would very slightly buff all of his stats, until the final charge where he just rips the headband off entirely going into his full Dragon Install form in OVT/Xrd providing him with insane amounts of buffs showcasing how ridiculously powerful full Dragon Install Sol is.
Kingdom Hearts-y! HOW DARE YOU! OUR PLOT IS EVEN HARDER TO FOLLOW THEN KH! WE ARE NOT EQUAL!
I think I called like 75% of the characters. And if I gave myself more time to think about your reasoning before the reveal, I would have easily got close to full 100%. An amazing video
We got Asuka a year later in Strive, so now it only makes sense for Ragna to literally come out of a portal made by Slayer and Rachel combining their powers and make this video feel like it aged better as it already is. I would kill for BBxGG with combined mechanics and 1v1, not tag teams, hoping for this to come at some point
Liked some of your ideas here, such as giving the Guilty Gear cast Drives and having Justice and Susano'o be the final DLC characters.
For fun, I'll have a go at creating my own roster of 26 base characters, plus 6 DLC characters, for a total of 32:
Guilty Gear:
1) Sol Badguy (main protagonist; mirrors Ragna)
2) Ky Kiske (secondary protagonist; mirrors Jin)
3) May (mainstay; mirrors Platinum)
4) Axl Low (mainstay; zoner)
5) Potemkin (mainstay; grappler; mirrors Tager)
6) Faust (mainstay; unique; mirrors Litchi and Platinum)
7) Slayer (fan favourite; not in Strive; mirrors Rachel; too damn cool)
8) Sin Kiske (fan favourite; not in Strive; could be the new Guilty Gear protagonist if Sol is retired in a future game)
9) Elphelt Valentine (fan favourite; not in Strive; mirrors Noel)
10) A.B.A (not in Strive; was designed and voiced by the creator of BlazBlue, if I recall correctly)
11) Bedman (not in Strive; villain; arcade mode mid-boss when playing as a Guilty Gear character)
12) I-No (villain; arcade mode final boss when playing as a BlazBlue character)
13) Order Sol (not in Strive; alternate version of a protagonist; arcade mode secret boss when playing as a BlazBlue character)
(DLC) 14) Anji Mito (mirrors Amane)
(DLC) 15) Bridget (fan favourite; not in Strive; mirrors Platinum)
(DLC) 16) Nagoriyuki (mirrors Hakumen and Azrael; too damn cool)
BlazBlue:
1) Ragna the Bloodedge (main protagonist; mirrors Sol)
2) Jin Kisaragi (secondary protagonist; mirrors Ky)
3) Noel Vermillion (tertiary protagonist; mirrors Elphelt)
4) Rachel Alucard (mainstay; mirrors Slayer)
5) Iron Tager (mainstay; grappler; mirrors Potemkin)
6) Litchi Faye-Ling (not in Cross Tag; mirrors Faust)
7) Arakune (not in Cross Tag; unique)
8) Hakumen (mainstay; mirrors Nagoriyuki)
9) Makoto Nanaya (fan favourite; rushdown)
10) Hibiki Kohaku (fan favourite; not in Cross Tag)
11) Relius Clover (not in Cross Tag; villain; arcade mode mid-boss when playing as a BlazBlue character)
12) Yuuki Terumi (not in Cross Tag; villain; arcade mode final boss when playing as a Guilty Gear character)
13) μ -No.12- (not in Cross Tag; alternate version of a protagonist; arcade mode secret boss when playing as a Guilty Gear character)
(DLC) 14) Amane Nishiki (unexpected; not in Cross Tag; mirrors Anji)
(DLC) 15) Platinum the Trinity (mirrors May, Faust and Bridget)
(DLC) 16) Azrael (fan favourite; mirrors Nagoriyuki)
If I may suggest a video idea, I think Arc System Works vs. Capcom would be nice to see, since Sammy vs. Capcom was in development in 2003 before being silently cancelled, and Sammy published the Guilty Gear X and XX games. This time, though, all of ArcSys's IP would be on the table, including Double Dragon, River City and BlazBlue.
For what characters I'd put on each side, I was thinking 24 for the base game but I'll bump it up to 26 for the sake of your idea of a starting roaster size. I'm also more for varying the roaster a bit more rather than trying to match up every character to another perfectly. There is 100% interaction material between each character pairing so I'm not concerned about that. I'm actually more concerned with properly representing various parts of the series history. So for the the Blazblue side I would include: Ragna, Jin, Noel, Rachel, Taokaka, Tager, Bang, Hakumen, Nu-13, Hazama, Relius, Kokonoe, and Naoto.
All of them are them through Nu are all core characters, Hazama is the more iconic villain, Relius is a puppet character and villain as well as one of the most powerful characters lore-wise. Kokonoe and Naoto are a good variety for play styles as well as being good representation for the newer entries in the franchise.
On the Guilty Gear Side I would include: Sol, Ky, May, Potemkin, Millia, Faust, Dizzy, Zato, Slayer, Ramlethal, Leo, I-No, and Nagoriyuki.
Again, everyone is a serious core character through to Zato, while Slayer is THE powerhouse of an ArcSys character that everyone thinks of when they think of memes (Aside from Faust). Ram and Nago are both good representation of the newer games much like Koko and Naoto as well as being insanely popular. I-No is the playable villain you envision much like Hazama when it comes to GG, and Leo and just the kind of character that NEEDS to be included in the game in some way shape or form and I think from a developer point of view it makes more sense to include him as a base game character rather than DLC.
Where I'm going to differ with you format and opinions the most is the DLC though. I agree that there definitely would be some, but I'm thinking more than less. So instead of there being 6 for three characters from each series, I'm going to go with 10 for 5 from each and pretend that they'd drop five waves with two characters coming per-wave, mostly because that's how they did it with BBTAG.
So my picks for the Blazblue DLC would be: Tsubaki (or Izayoi), Nine, Arakune, Jubei, and Terumi.
As much as I do like Makoto, I don't think she should be superseding Tsubaki who is WAY more important to the plot of Blazblue and comes with two incredibly unique play styles that you could choose for her so Makoto would be a second wave DLC or beyond for me. I agree that Nine is a fan favorite and that her playstyle is super cool which is specifically why I think it would be better to have her as DLC. There's a ton of good picks in the base roster with some "Whoa" picks as well, so keeping Nine for DLC would 100% get people interested. Arakune and Litchi are the two major OGs not represented still and I think Arakune is a more interesting pick between the two in both design and play-style. Jubei and Terumi are the two powerhouses of the series and I think having them both be playable makes sense, especially having Terumi as another villain (I do think Susaano is a good pick as well).
My picks for Guilty Gear DLC would be: Baiken, Johnny, Jack-O, Raven, and Brigid.
Baiken and Johnny as you said are REALLY popular, which is why both of them are 100% going to be DLC in Strive which is why it also makes the most sense to have them as DLC here as well. I think Jack-O is the character that would fit Blazblue the best of any GG character, her whole gimmick is basically a Drive in the first place and she's super popular. I want another villain for GG as well and I honestly think Raven is the best pick, I like his style and character and I see them using a more recent character than someone niche like Testament or Justice who I wouldn't imagine them bringing back to the series in a crossover. Brigid is my final pick because just like Baiken and Johnny he's an insanely popular pick with a fun style that would differ just enough from the rest of the cast.
If I were to pick two additional characters that are REALLY close to being picked by me it would be Izanami and either Elphelt or Giovanna.
It's all just my thoughts though. I'm here still hoping for more BBTAG DLC or P5A so who knows what we'll get any more.
With these being two ASW titles, I also want the commentators to start cat fights in the background when characters from different games fight, and whoever wins the round has their exasperated announcer announce the next round only to devolve into something akin to her hair getting pulled and them getting pulled off the mic.
character who wins the fight has their announcer acting outrageously off cuff. Maybe has her trailing off like "Yeah, that's WTF i thought!"
Honestly you covered all my bases on the Guilty Gear side with Dizzy, Ramlethal, Jam and Giovanna. For BlazBlue alongside Noel, Hakumen, Rachel and Bullet I would've liked to see Platinum, Jubei and Litchi, but aside from that this whole roster looks amazing!
This has come up in a lot of fighter lore videos I’ve watched lately.
Sooo-sah-no-oh
Still waiting for that Microsoft crossover fighting game. Been waiting since the PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royal 2 video. I'm certain with four generations of Xbox consoles, plus all the studios they own you can get at least 40 characters for this potential crossover.
By Xbox All-stars Battle Royale you mean Nerf War the game? *laughing sound effect in bad comedy films/shows*
Now THIS is a crossover I never knew I needed.
Decided to watch this since the first time this video came out. Gotta say that you had some great choices back then here during the cusp of Strive’s release. Although personally I would have had Jubei and Kliff in there somewhere, probably as DLC. Jubei was in Cross Tag, but Kliff has been dead since after the first game, and only stayed up to the GGXX games.
I think it’s important for a crossover to bring in characters that can’t really come back normally in a series, as normal as BB or GG is anyway. XP
Also chipp is like top 3 in strive and insta’s can be pulled off in any round in gg
Please do Marvel vs DC, I beg you!
No
@Kanye Young Disney sucks and will never allow this game to happen.
@Kanye Young that was already a series before Disney bought marvel. Why would Disney make something with their competitors something they have never done how stupid are you??
@@pleaseshutup7053 These videos are about hypothetical scenarios and games. Not if its ever gonna happen.
@@unknown-iy2we wrong these are videos that have a chance to happen that’s what he states at the beginning of every video.
This is a pretty cool roster. If I could add in any new characters I would add Millia and Venom on the GG side and I’d add Taokaka and Jubei on the BB side
millia is a must
i feel that Hazama and Happy Chaos would be a better fit than I-no since HC and Hazama have pulled at the strings of the story since the beginning. also the both have a laid back style.
Awesome video!!
You should make the roster for persona 5 arena
Yes, please! That would be awesome.
Akira (Ren Mamamia whatever you wanna call him) and the Phantom Thieves, some shadow bosses, the PE Teacher and the last one (base game) are probably the best options, then some reps from P3 and P4 but now older and you have a great base roster
yes
I'd love to see your take on what would a Rumiko Takahashi crossover fighting game be like, I've seen people mess around with the concept, Basically it would be Inuyasha, Ranma, and Lum crossover game with maybe a sprinkle of some of Rumiko Takahashi's other works like Rin-ne, Mao, Mermaid Sega.
I've never seen one of your videos before & this is the first one I ever watched but I must admit it's Dope 🔥🔥🔥🔥 So I subscribed right away!!! Oh & I love fighting games too 😂😂😂
One of your best rosters so far! Probably the only thing you overlooked is the potential in a Slayer v Valkenhayn matchup
Surprised they haven't tried this yet. Maybe now that both original eras of the stories of both series are completed, they might try.
This game would be my dream. I've spent a long time working on a list between the similarities between all the characters. I really wanna see happy chaos Vs susano'o or Ky Kiske the first king Vs Jin Kisaragi the hero of the Irukagura civil war. Or even Tager and kokonoe Vs Potemkin (and Gabriel if you want a major stomp)
That man is now playable XD
I need this hahaha
Also, great as always Thor
Ok but… can we talk about the fact that Gabriel never was playable in any guilty gear ?
Testament: "How... vulgar. It's as if I'm looking into a mirror of the past. Was I that obsessed...?"
Nu: "Target identified. Biological data: inconclusive. A Black Beast... RAGNA!?"
“Blazblue has a decent amount of puppet characters, so let’s add a rushdown instead in the puppet characters place.”
Relius would’ve been a WAY better choice.
Celica is someone you make a story mcguffin.
I love these video's and it's thanks to you I started playing BlazBlue which is my entry to fighting games and I love it. Before that Guilty Gear peeked my interest but when I heard that lore video I and there was a sale last week, I just had to try it and it's really uplifting and exciting for me to listen to these. Thank you.
GG vs. BB would be RAD. But hear me out.
Under Night In-Birth vs. Melty Blood.
Fate Stay Night x Melty Blood
@@espurrseyes42 That would be a nightmare. But at the same time..Astolfo is a possibility.
@@espurrseyes42 Maybe a Type Moon fighting game. That way, you could build from all of the Fate franchise, all of Tsukihime, maybe get Fujino Asagami as well as Shiki Ryougi from Garden of Sinners, and maybe even throw Canaan in.
@@KigaiOkasu I'd main Kirei 100% if that happened
I feel like Axl would make sense in this type of story with all his time shenanigans
Great video as always. Definitely a badass cast that makes a lot of sense.
The biggest problem I have with what you said is that you claimed we couldn't have both roman cancels and overdrive. Get out of here. Those are some of the coolest mechanics in fg history and Blazblue has rapid cancels already, so it's not a stretch to have them both. What if you want to eliminate one mechanic just remove the dust button. We can do without it.
I think your cast is completely fair, but I would personally do a few changes.
1. I want to shoutout Bedman for being my favourite GG character and the character that got me into fgs, but I can't justify including him. Testament is absolutely the more iconic GG setup character. And Ram is the character that should represent Xrd.
2. Relius instead of Celica. I think his personallity would make for fun interaction and it would be great to see his Astral Finish on the GG cast. Specially on I-no.
3. Litchi instead of Hakumen. Hakumen is really cool, but he is technically another character that's already in the roster and Litchi is just as iconic. Plus, your roster has a lot of playstyle variety, but it could use a stance character and she is the perfect fit.
4. Slayer instead of Nagoriyuki. Nago is a badass character and you're right about how Strive should be represented with his inclusion. But I still qould prefer Slayer. He is very iconic and I think he would have more interesting interactions.
Here's some more fun build the roster ideas I'd love to see:
Marvel Vs. DC (the supposed Netherrealm game)
Capcom All Stars
Darkstalkers Vs. Killer Instinct
Tekken X Streer Fighter
X-Men Fighting Game
Mascot Battle Royale (Like Tony the Tiger Vs. Count Chocula or some crazy shit, not serious, but fun to see you make it)
Licensed Horror fighter
Yu-Gi-Oh fighter
Pokemon Vs Digimon
Nostalgic Cartoon smash (like ThunderCats, He-Man, TMNT)
Keep being awesome, Aaron. I look forward to all your videos.