American Reacts to Das ist das alles von der Kunstfreiheit Gedeckt by die Antelopen Gang/Danger Dan
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- Опубліковано 14 лип 2022
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In this video I react to das ist das alles von der Kunstreiheit Gedeckt by die Antelopen Gang/Danger Dan. I find that listening to German music helps me learn the language better. I hope you enjoy it!
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The song describes the line between legal defamation and "protection of art" in Germany.
In Germany it is illegal to publicly spread false and honor damaging claims about a person, or make false criminal accusations in public. It is a crime that will only be investigated if the "damaged party" is filing charges, but then the case is to be heard.
Unless you can show good evidence that your statements were true statements of facts you will then get handed an order of injunction. If you can though the filing party has to pay all legal fees your costs included.
After the Nazis Germany gave special protection to artists though. And thus in satire, music and every other art form you can express ideas and make claims that would be considered slander in other instances.
Love this song but it will be REALLY troublesome to translate
Oury Jalloh was taken into custody by the police while drunk and locked up in a cell in the Dessau police station. Later, his burnt body was found in the cell. The accused police officers were acquitted, saying that Jalloh had set himself on fire.
It took a long time to get further expert opinions, but these revealed that there was no way he could have set himself on fire. And that he had been severely abused before his death, which was probably intended to be covered up by the fire. To this day, the case has not been fully solved, no one has been held responsible. It is now assumed that there were other victims in previous years at this police station.
It is safe to say that Oury Jalloh is a victim of systemic racism and police brutality. There are many black sheep in the German police force, and unfortunately they are always protected, partly because there is no independent body to investigate against the police.
Woww ❤️😍 Antilopen Gang and Danger Dan are incredible. They have some of the most intelligent, cool lyrics ever I think.
This is one of my favourite songs. Danger Dan is already one of the best songwriters I am familiar with, but this is probably one of the best things he wrote so far. Although it's quite hard to get all the references if you don't know the people he's talking of, that's true.
He is one third of the Antilopengang and this is from his solo piano album, the other two members are Koljah and Panik Panzer. They had a fourth member, NMZS, but he died by suicide in 2013, which is something they talk about a lot in their songs, just like depression and other mental illnesses. What I like so much about them is that their lyrics aren't misogynistic and homophobic and they write great political songs. Also, they are big fans of punk rock and did a punk rock album a couple of years ago with punk rock versions of their songs together with singers from punk rock bands like Die Ärzte, Die Toten Hosen, Donots, Slime, Feine Sahne Fischfilet, The Baboon Show, Die Kassierer etc.
I've been on concerts and there you find hip-hop fans as well as punks and old metalheads in Motörhead shirts, the atmosphere was amazing. I have tickets for two more concerts I've been holding on since 2020 that they hopefully can finally play this year.
Thank you very much for your comment. I've been looking for a song by Antelope Gang for weeks and was able to remember thanks to you. It was Patientenkollektiv. It's such a good song about depression and how the best people suffer the most.
Antilopen is the perfect combo of punk and hip hop, saw them in linz this year and was blown away by the atmosphere. More like a punk / metal concert than hip hop for me with lots of moshpits, 3 wall of death and lots of movement.
I'm sure other people already explained it, but reducancy is the law of the internet, so:
"den Bogen spannen" refers to the drawing of a bow, but there is also the phrase "einen Bogen schlagen" which some people incorrectly say as "einen Bogen spannen" and it just means to make a transition from one thing/topic to another, often in speeches, books ect. , usually "einen geschickten Bogen schlagen" - to expertly make a transition. Yes, "schlagen" normally means to beat or hit, but it's just one of those words that can mean all kinds of things in certain contextes, don't worry about it. And Bogen doesn't mean the weapon in this case, it's more like curve or arch/arc.
And to make it more complicated, there are also a lot of similar sounding phrases. "den Bogen überspannen" means to overdraw the bow (in this case the weapon) with a meaning similar to "step over the mark" in English. Some people may say this as "Bogen spannen", because people aren't always exact in their phrasing. And "einen Bogen schlagen" can also mean to avoid someone or somehing, basically to walk around something, so your route isn't a straight line, it's like a half circle, a curved line.
This is one of my favourite songs.
Ein Meisterwerk durch und durch!
About freedom of speech in Germany: We don't have that here. We have a constitutionally granted freedom of opinion. Which, for example, does not grant constitutional protection for false facts.. No protection doesn't mean forbidden though!
The first amendment is, the dignity of a person is inviable. For obvious historical reasons. Freedom of speech in Germany has to respect this one thing. That's the difference to American freedom of speech.
Only that it is not an amendment, but Article 1 of our Basic Law, our Constitution. It's so firmly embedded in our constitution that the first 20 articles can never be changed or mitigated.
@@copperhead100 Amendments are pretty much the same, regardless the name.
@@connectingthedots100 they were amended?
@@colorfulgaming6596 Do you want me to repeat myself? They have the same function and weight.
@@connectingthedots100 are you confusing articles and amendments?
Amendmends were changed and they can be changed. That is their point. The Amendments are amended. Like get a grip.
Your constitution allowed slavery until it was amended. I am not trying to shit talk the american constitution, but it is a document that has been changed and might be changed in the future.
In short: Danger Dan uses the subjunctive at the beginning. So he is not making a statement, but talking about the fact that he could make a statement. So he could assert things without being prosecuted for it. E.g. "If I were mean, I would say that you are ugly", this statement is an insult without, strictly factually, being one. In the end, Danger Dan drops all protection and says what he wants to say, hoping that artistic freedom and freedom of opinion will protect him. He talks about how certain people are fascists and that violence is a solution when all other means have failed. He later emphasized in interviews that really all means must be exhausted in order to use violence.
"den bogen spannen" would be sth like "gliding into the next topic" to get the gist of it
All this is not so easy, because the song has many political references. But I will at least try to explain the names roughly.
Jürgen Elsässer is co-founder of an extreme right-wing network. Götz Kubitschek is co-founder of another far-right network and Alexander Gauland is former chairman of the far-right party AfD. Ohh and Ken Jebsen is also involved somewhere.
So basically, everything Danger Dan says in this song is true. But he says it in a way where he reaches into a grey area of German law, but not so far into it, so he can't be sued about it.
Ohh and about freedom of speech in Germany. You are allowed to say everything. BUT it needs to be true and you are not allowed to insult someone with it.
to expand this:
Oury Jalloh is an important figure. I will leave the first part of his WIKI article here: He was an asylum seeker who died in a fire in a police cell in Dessau, Germany. The hands and feet of Jalloh, who was alone in the cell, were tied to a mattress. A fire alarm went off, but was initially turned off without further action by an officer. The case caused national and international outrage at the official narrative of suicide.
And Ken Jebsen was fired from his broadcasting job after antisemitic emails of him are gone public in 2011. Since then he accuses everybody and everything to censor him because he is an ultra-conservative narcissistic asshole nobody likes apart from his delusional asshole friends.
But if you are not allowed to insult somebody, then you don't have freedom of speech
@@alansmith4748 That is not true. a right is still a right, even If it has limits. In America you have the right of freedom of movement, but you are still not allowed to go on protected personal and government property. But that doesn't mean that the right doesn't exist, just that it is not limitless.
The Freedom of speech is enshrined in article 5 of our constitution, but it has limits. The limits in Germany are basically you're right to free speech ends, when it infringes on the rights of others, for example their right to dignity or their right to be protected because they are a minor. It also ends when you are breaking a law, for example libel (like in the US). We have some things that are illegal to say in Germany, like inciting others to commit crimes, especially hate crimes and denying the holocaust. Those are in place because our history told us, that unrestricted rights to free speech leads to the weaponizing of that rights against minorities and to fascism.
@@ts3802 If you are not allowed to insult somebody, you don't have freedom of speech. Insult me as much as you want, I couldn't care less. I don't think I've ever been offended by anything anybody has ever said to me. I've been frightened many times when threatening language has been used against me, but never offended.
If I had to choose between two laws:
(1) a law which made it illegal to be offensive
or
(2) a law which made it illegal to be offended
then I'd choose the latter. Stop being offended, it's a waste of time.
Nb: I'm not saying people should use insulting language. People who go out of their way to insult others are pathetic and probably more deserving of sympathy than condemnation. I also accept that there are always grey areas in these sort of debates and people can counter what I say with; "Ahh yes, but what if..."
I know it's illegal in Germany to deny the Holocaust. I disagree with the law
By the way, to draw a bow means in german to talk about another topic that is logically connected to the first one. Something like connecting the dots.
conjunctive (grammar, of a verb) Subjunctive: inflected to indicate that an act or state of being is possible, contingent or hypothetical, and not a fact.
So he basically is saying that he isn't making a statement of fact but that it *could* be the case.
In germany, there technically is no freedom of speech, but freedom of opinion. You cannot say certain things, but noone can stop you from thinking it. 6:42
11:30 The problem here is the call to violence which would obviously be a crime and § 111 StGB (Strafgesetzbuch, German criminal code) outlaws "Public incitement to commit offences".
7:32 I don't know that guy personally either but chances are he is as he's an far right activist.
These are the Wikipedia articles of all the people he mentions in the song.
Jürgen Elsässer:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%BCrgen_Els%C3%A4sser
Götz Kubitschek:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6tz_Kubitschek
Ken Jebsen:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Jebsen
Alexander Gauland:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Gauland
17:46min
"Free Speech" in Germany vs US legislation:
Germany: Article 5 of the constitution
USA: Article 1 in the amendment of the constitution
It's a great song in my opinion and i really like that you are actually taking the time to think about the lyrics and their meaning.
If you are interested in political songs you should watch "Onkelz Poster" by Finch. It's about the lack of prospects for young people in the former GDR. It has great lyrics in my opinion and it's also very unique in it's style.
And while the US has freedom of speech/Redefreiheit we have freedom of opinions/Meinungsfreiheit. There is a legal distinction between opinions/Meinungen and statments of facts/Tatsachenbehauptungen and only opinions and true statements of facts are protected, although whether something is actually a false statement can be quite debatable. However, opinions are subjective statements about the world like "This law is unfair", in this case "unfair" is not something we can really measure empirically, it's based on subjective values. "This party has the most members of all parties in Germany" on the other hand is a statement of facts and we can objectivelly tell if it's true or false. But it can be quite messy. "I think person X has brown hair" is technically an opinion, even though it states a statement of facts; but it does it from a subjective viewpoint, it doesn't say "This is the case", it just says "I believe this is the case". And you can also have debate whether something is empircally provable or not and a lot of statements can't be proven for sure, like "Person X often insults their partner when they are alone". We could theoretically check that by constant surveillance and we can ask them and their partner, but in reality... we will never be quite sure about it, because constant surveillance isn't really an optinion. So it's actually quite difficult to really "get" someone for spreading false, harmful statements (and there has to be some kind of harm, it's not like stating a false statement itself is a crime, although it's a fun thought to just sue all kids in school who don't give the right answers to math problems... )
He basically named a few fascist names but they always fine him and the text is pretty imaginative so he is like that is all theoretically so he doesnt get in trouble.
And yeah we have the "Grundgesetz" that also includes free speech but also you can´t discriminate someone with your speech.
"Den Bogen spannen" means to connect two seperate issues that are usually not connected but can be connected from the petspective you are taking.
Like talking about the propaganda tools the oil industry uses and from there switch first to the ways how the cigarette industry made people smoke and keep on smoking, and from their to fascism.
These topics seem to be not interconnected, but you can draw a line like the bow string connectd the two most distant ends of the bow. "Den Bogen spannen" literally means to connect the bow-string two both ends and thus flex the bow itself into its useable position.
6:27 Götz Kubitschek is a far right publisher.
The third paragraph of Article 5 (freedom of opinion) of the German Constitution specifically protects the freedom of Art, Science, Research and Education, which is only restricted by the additional, statement that the Freedom of Education does not exonerate from loyalty to the constitution. The Federal Constitutional Court considers the Freedom of Art part of the basic communication rights and thus as essential for the FDGO (liberal democratic basic order), which is basically the Core of the Federal Republic of Germany. So yes, Freedom of Art enjoys a very high status.
Alexander Gauland is an influential member and was for some time the leader of the far right AfD party.
As i understand the Gauland= Reptiloid + Beating fascists thing, having this obviously bullshit statement of Gauland being a Reptiloid in there basically protects him from being sued by Gauland for inciting Violence against Gauland who obviously in this verse is closely connected to fascists who should be beaten. But the fact that this ridicoulous statement is in there leads to anything against the other statement being legally on shaky grounds as well.
To quote Wikipedia: Oury Jalloh (1968 in Kabala, Sierra Leone - 7 January 2005, in Dessau, Germany) was an asylum seeker who died in a fire in a police cell in Dessau, Germany. The hands and feet of Jalloh, who was alone in the cell, were tied to a mattress. A fire alarm went off, but was initially turned off without further action by an officer. The case caused national and international outrage at the official narrative of suicide.
Premiere so far in future are just sad as i forget about it ...
Sorry. I just set the premiere after the previous video premieres so I don’t forget to do so since I upload a lot of videos at once
@@SethinBerlin as i rly love the song i now did spend 20 minutes to find this video again xD if u premiere them so early they never show up again in a sub list so ... its super hard to find ur videos xD
Konjunktiv doesn‘t mean to conjunct something. It means that your words stay hypothetical. Instead of saying Gauland is a reptiloid you say Gauland could be a reptiloid.
It is Ant-i-lopengäng.
With an i, not an e.
6:40 Not quite. First of all we don't have freedom of speech in Germany but freedom of opinion which granted, for all intents and purposes is the same, but still has some key differences.
He is talking about the freedom of the arts which alongside freedom of opinion, freedom of the media and freedom of science is protected in Art. 5 I GG (GG = Grundgesetz, the defacto German constitution).
React to Kunz!
17:00 I would love to explain why you can generally trust the police in Germany but UA-cam keeps deleting my comment (around a dozen times despite different variations) so you'll just have to take my word for it...
I would love to hear that..
I could give minimum 5 examples, which shows, some police workers are not doing their job as it is supposed to but the opposite.