@@chipsteve Because I don’t believe in PUAs and dating coaches, as attracting vvomen is NOT a skill that can be taught. When it comes to relationships and s€x, vvomen are the CHOOSERS, and as the CHOOSERS they PRESELECT the men they find physically attractive, if you don’t pass the looks test with a vvoman, it’s game over, and no amount of smooth talking or so called “game” is going to save you. You need to take the B.lackpill, and fast.
Well he doesn’t have the method of keeping the frame once the fish is hooked he became the simp. These techniques work for hooking up but in a long relationship its different
I love seeing Mystery teach again, he's so knowledgeable on this subject and his contributions with his books have been game changing for non-alpha males like myself.
The problem with the young ones who learn this is they end up getting a strong frame when they haven’t really deserved it yet. They come off as too strong and rude because of the “feeling of absolute knowing “ when they don’t . Young Dylan doesn’t realize yet how he comes across and he doesn’t realize that life is often times a process of letting go, and and starting over
All you need now is Todd V. RSDMax, Mystery, and Todd revolutionized pickup like crazy. I remember seeing an old video of you and Todd in one of his programs back in the day.
Todd is pure external techniques, which work to some extent (I purchased his courses), but inner work is the way to becoming a "natural". Go see those old infields with Julien and Todd, you'll notice Julien gets way more girls than him effortlessly.
@@ScorpionSuerte tbf that doesn't matter if you are high level. Once you banged a 100 8/9/10s the scoring system almost doesn't matter to you, I'd say your threshold is 6.5 or 7, and from there you value other qualities. There's so many more qualities in women that matter, and as a guy you only have much time past 30, otherwise you'll end up like Owen or Mystery: disfunctional families and your kids will take the toll. You might not relate cause you are not at that level yet, I know it didn't make much sense to me at the time as well when I was sub 100 lays, but now it completely does. If I ever want to settle down, past the point of bang-able, it won't matter to me if she is a 7 or a 10.
@@RobbieOaks Mystery uses external techniques and Julien uses external techniques. There’s no point to be made. How else are you supposed to interact with somebody? The power of thought?
16 Year old!! lad 👍😊 How Old are you Michael for Giving Advice!! I Respect u for Your Public Service & Well Done!! U are Today & Alive & Sacrificed Your Life for Your Country & The World 👍😊. This Young Man is too Young to be Taking Advice from U who Has Lived!! Keep Going Michael for Your Contribution to 20 plus Men!! 👍😊
Love mystery but the book of negs and openers are all his old material ( and solid , I’m sure he still uses them ) was hoping for more updated material . He blows minds , so when it doesn’t it feels like it comes up short . It’s what you find free with the smallest of searches . He is still the greatest .
Rollo and Mike are such killjoys. They take the joy and fun out of courting women because they lack Mystery's energy andgood vibes. Mystery highlighting the laugh track as a tool to pick up women is such a positive for both the seduced and seducer.
Mike is ex-military. He's trying to help a lot of men who need a kick in the ass to start improving themselves. Notice how he was just as excited about going to the gym and improving your physical health and capability as he is about improving social skills. Rollo is an advocate. He's trying to make society more reasonable/rational, especially in it's attitudes towards men. He spends a lot of time challenging the preconceptions that society tries to drill into us. Many people can be exasperating in their reluctance to let go of what they're used to but I'm glad Rollo is there to champion the truth. Mystery has always been laid back and very generous. He has amazing insight into social dynamics for those who seek him.
😢 this is so sad. I feel like rolo needs to explain female Dynamics to Mystery. And I got the real question the kid was asking you're 52 why are you still looking for love😢
So ironic that there was such a huge backlash against PUA accusing painting it as being misogynistic and manipulative and the Godfather of it is the nicest person in the world.
With all respect to Mystery (who I'm sure is immensely skilled in what he do) The problem I have with the pick-up is the scripted "material". Though it might work well, especially for younger more insecure guys. If you own your frame, and it is strong, you can unapologetic give her a sincere compliment while showing intent and interest. No need to cover it up with fake disqualifies. The usability of Neg is fine, as long as it reflects your frame. It's totally fine to put a hot women in her place, if she shittest you. Very few men does that. But it should come from sincere integrity. My best advise is to be in shape and be capable/competent in core male virtues. If you "game" her too much, she might loose interest after she found out, you're not as "extraordinary" as she believed during attraction. It's better to "reward" her for her risky investment, when she experience your value, than disapoint her if your did too much DHV, and believed she betted on a sure winner.
Great talk but I just don't understand why Michael is always so tryhard and feels the urge to quality himself so badly, he just can't help it... you're good enough!
It’s hilarious, he literally asked me how I’m doing. We have conversations off the air about some of the women I know. He’s also coming to judge my bikini competition And you think I’m qualifying to him 😂😂😂
The only thing i dont understand is why mystery says he doesnt do infield because of discretion, when he literally uploaded an infield clip of him and his students 8 days ago 😂😂 (on beckster lifestyle)... uncensored faces, too
Although JAL is an A hole , his game is best in the world , it’s literally the funnel system form start to close “ don’t try to pull in the first hour” dude that’s wayyy off, the brain works on frequency and recency , you can import comfort on credit , you can easily pull earlier in the night.
I don't know the host of this program, but I feel like he's trying to lecture people who have spent their whole lives in their profession. He gets excited about some simple tricks as if he just discovered them. The sense of embarrassment is at its peak. He tries to be more important than his guests. He really has a huge ego and gets excited like a child. Only pity remains.
Guys. Stop cutting Mystery off when he's mid-flow. I mean fucking hell, it's incredible the lack of social skills men have today. Social media fucked them up.
Technically insightful, although Mistery is like if you took that Rasta hobo from the corner of the street you see in all these 80's action movies, always high and careless but in his case famous, not a single f*ck given at all time.
😂 watered-down version what are you talking about? Mystery teaches you how to get a girl. Rollo teaches you. Dating self-defense getting zeroed out self-defense. Learning that there's no such thing as the one. Which is something mystery still suffers from
@@freegender930 Rollo is a beta in a marriage for 20 years. He referred to having one daughter as „I am playing the the game with my hands tied behind my back.“ What game? He is not in the game, he is a weird white ivory tower voyeurist with a midlife crisis. Meanwhile Mystery has more field experience, has more children and is playing the field as he always has. Who is the one suffering from oneitis there? The one bragging how hot his post-wall 55 yo wife is and how good his „marriage game“ is, or the one who is active in the field meeting women?
@severussin This pua stuff is for young kids .... when I see an old guy like sartain placing women toxic sloots at the centre of his life, it makes him look miserable, pathetic. I understand he is selling coaching programmes to incels, but still doesn't look good at all.
The reason Mystery doesn’t get as much respect from the average layman as he does from seasoned PUA guys is that he runs game at such a high level regular guys can’t relate. Even regular direct approach PUA is too hard for most guys which created the entire manosphere stemming from puahate which transformed to redpill and then mgtow. These all stemmed from regular guys not being able to do basic pickup. Mystery Method is the highest level of pickup and was practiced on the hottest girls in elite Hollywood clubs so of course it works but it’s also way more niche. The average guy can’t hold a 3-set for 25 minutes and then merge it with another 3-set he opened earlier. The average PUA dude can hold a club girl’s attention for 2 minutes before her friend drags her away and you only get those 2 minutes if she likes you. Indirect might be the best way to game the hottest girls at the hottest clubs but it’s unnecessary and too difficult for regular dudes gaming regular-looking chicks at a bar in the Midwest. Or even just regular girls at a bar in silver lake. Mystery is like Kobe Bryant teaching a bunch of regular dudes at the park how to shoot a buzzer-beater from the three-point line when you’re being triple-teamed. Regular dudes now can’t even do basic pickup to get an HB5 which is why videos talking about how ridiculous girls are nowadays are far more popular than PUA videos teaching you how to actually pickup.
@@ted6580 Who said that I was a Cassanova?, I’m not, if I want to get laid, I have to pay a mature age lady of the night, as I’m too ugly for civilian vvomen, but that’s life and my tough luck. But my point stands, game doesn’t exist, vvomen PRESELECT the men they want based on the man’s LOOKS, not what comes out of his mouth. You need to get B.lackpilled, and fast.
What’s hilarious is that I’m not seeking validation but I’m actually trying to help him see new developments when it comes to game. Mainly social media. I’m going to show my clients this comment you made to show them what shortsightedness looks like
@@MichaelSartain I don't believe you're genuinely "friends" with all these narcissistic plastic surgery trainwrecks who shoot poison into their foreheads to mask authentic expression. I also don't believe you even want this life, which is why you committed to a woman (with a tough past). What does this type of clout do for you, anyway? Not even condescending - you're wayyy too intelligent to possibly be fulfilled by all this crap.
Nah bro. There are mentors that Michael respects and honors and looks up to. And that's great because he's been able to have many of them on the show to help educate *all* of us. But Mystery isn't the only mentor Michael has had. Michael has worked his way up, cross-pollinating and synthesizing ideas with his own experience. He has plenty of his own standing at the party and things to share that've been outside the focus of others.
1:11:21 I think what Dylan is trying to say is your dream girl is whoever you make it, if it's not then aren't you adhering to the myth of the soul mate?
One thing I will say unequivocally about Mystery is that he has overall good intent and he is absolutely a class act in how he treats others.
That’s very debatable.
@@masteryoda498 if you disagree with personal experience, then have the decency to tell me what it is & why - while you're @-ing me
@@chipsteve
Because I don’t believe in PUAs and dating coaches, as attracting vvomen is NOT a skill that can be taught.
When it comes to relationships and s€x, vvomen are the CHOOSERS, and as the CHOOSERS they PRESELECT the men they find physically attractive, if you don’t pass the looks test with a vvoman, it’s game over, and no amount of smooth talking or so called “game” is going to save you.
You need to take the B.lackpill, and fast.
Mystery is THE LEGEND : and it works… got together with a Swedish supermodel through his mystery method in the past.
That is awesome bro
Too bad it was a man, I guess
Well he doesn’t have the method of keeping the frame once the fish is hooked he became the simp. These techniques work for hooking up but in a long relationship its different
@@Thor-cq4dcnothing is different in a longterm there is nothing easier than keeping a girl after having sex
This was a great stream! Mystery has immense wisdom in the pick up and female behavior arenas. I hope he started appearing more often on podcasts
Awesome! I went on bootcamp with these guys a few months ago and I had no idea how GOOD you can actually get at game - learned tons
What top 3 things did you learn that stuck with you?
Does mystery teach his routines that he uses
@@rippedup4546yes, but he encourages you to make your own.
Everyone should own Mystery's books! The OG. The foundation of pickup was from his work solely if Im not mistaken
Well done, gents.
Love to see more concepts like this with mystery Micheal and rollo for future streams
Mystery had one of the best shows in the early 2000s. Still got game post kids!!
What show was it?
@@metalmanny666 the pick up artist.
bro if you going to get people like mystery on there more regularly I definitely need to join moa!
Thank you Mystery and thanks Mike for getting him back on UA-cam. The insights and tips were very helpful and inspiring
I love seeing Mystery teach again, he's so knowledgeable on this subject and his contributions with his books have been game changing for non-alpha males like myself.
With these times, I believe Mystery Method and or routines will make a come back in this industry
Thankyou
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Funny you mention Californication. My top 1 series without fail. Re-watched it at least 7 times all the way through. Hank Moody is an idol
yoooo what?? Mystery on the show, thats awesome.
This was amazing. Great value and input from THE Godfather of cold approach pickup
Thank you lads
The problem with the young ones who learn this is they end up getting a strong frame when they haven’t really deserved it yet. They come off as too strong and rude because of the “feeling of absolute knowing “ when they don’t . Young Dylan doesn’t realize yet how he comes across and he doesn’t realize that life is often times a process of letting go, and and starting over
They gonna learn bro but how can a guy portray strong frame without having
Dylan, he sounded suspicious
This is dope I remember watching the pickup artist on vh1 way back in I think 07
Whatever happens everyone is looking for mystery because he is the Best
All you need now is Todd V.
RSDMax, Mystery, and Todd revolutionized pickup like crazy.
I remember seeing an old video of you and Todd in one of his programs back in the day.
Todd, who's married to a 6?
Todd is pure external techniques, which work to some extent (I purchased his courses), but inner work is the way to becoming a "natural". Go see those old infields with Julien and Todd, you'll notice Julien gets way more girls than him effortlessly.
@@ScorpionSuerte tbf that doesn't matter if you are high level. Once you banged a 100 8/9/10s the scoring system almost doesn't matter to you, I'd say your threshold is 6.5 or 7, and from there you value other qualities. There's so many more qualities in women that matter, and as a guy you only have much time past 30, otherwise you'll end up like Owen or Mystery: disfunctional families and your kids will take the toll.
You might not relate cause you are not at that level yet, I know it didn't make much sense to me at the time as well when I was sub 100 lays, but now it completely does. If I ever want to settle down, past the point of bang-able, it won't matter to me if she is a 7 or a 10.
@@webdiv8406 Would it matter if she was a 5 or 6 though?
@@RobbieOaks Mystery uses external techniques and Julien uses external techniques. There’s no point to be made. How else are you supposed to interact with somebody? The power of thought?
Mystery speaks so softly I wonder if he’s noticed a difference from the women that communicate to him
Fast speech and major qualification being needed interesting
Yesssss this is guna be awesome
16 Year old!! lad 👍😊 How Old are you Michael for Giving Advice!! I Respect u for Your Public Service & Well Done!! U are Today & Alive & Sacrificed Your Life for Your Country & The World 👍😊. This Young Man is too Young to be Taking Advice from U who Has Lived!! Keep Going Michael for Your Contribution to 20 plus Men!! 👍😊
Replay gang 🔥
Love mystery but the book of negs and openers are all his old material ( and solid , I’m sure he still uses them ) was hoping for more updated material . He blows minds , so when it doesn’t it feels like it comes up short . It’s what you find free with the smallest of searches . He is still the greatest .
Rollo and Mike are such killjoys. They take the joy and fun out of courting women because they lack Mystery's energy andgood vibes. Mystery highlighting the laugh track as a tool to pick up women is such a positive for both the seduced and seducer.
Mike is ex-military. He's trying to help a lot of men who need a kick in the ass to start improving themselves. Notice how he was just as excited about going to the gym and improving your physical health and capability as he is about improving social skills.
Rollo is an advocate. He's trying to make society more reasonable/rational, especially in it's attitudes towards men. He spends a lot of time challenging the preconceptions that society tries to drill into us. Many people can be exasperating in their reluctance to let go of what they're used to but I'm glad Rollo is there to champion the truth.
Mystery has always been laid back and very generous. He has amazing insight into social dynamics for those who seek him.
Legend
W Sartain👌🏽💯🥇👍🏽💥🏆
😢 this is so sad. I feel like rolo needs to explain female Dynamics to Mystery. And I got the real question the kid was asking you're 52 why are you still looking for love😢
Rollo and mystery pleaseeee write a book together
I remember watching the show 20 years ago and thinking the same thing I'm thinking now. This dude never gets laid.
So ironic that there was such a huge backlash against PUA accusing painting it as being misogynistic and manipulative and the Godfather of it is the nicest person in the world.
PUAs and dating coaches are NOT nice people.
With all respect to Mystery (who I'm sure is immensely skilled in what he do)
The problem I have with the pick-up is the scripted "material". Though it might work well, especially for younger more insecure guys.
If you own your frame, and it is strong, you can unapologetic give her a sincere compliment while showing intent and interest. No need to cover it up with fake disqualifies. The usability of Neg is fine, as long as it reflects your frame. It's totally fine to put a hot women in her place, if she shittest you. Very few men does that. But it should come from sincere integrity.
My best advise is to be in shape and be capable/competent in core male virtues. If you "game" her too much, she might loose interest after she found out, you're not as "extraordinary" as she believed during attraction. It's better to "reward" her for her risky investment, when she experience your value, than disapoint her if your did too much DHV, and believed she betted on a sure winner.
LOOOOOL JAL IS GONNA BE PISSED 🤣🤣🤣👍🏻
Dude in the red sweatshirt big capper
100% cap
Great talk but I just don't understand why Michael is always so tryhard and feels the urge to quality himself so badly, he just can't help it... you're good enough!
It’s hilarious, he literally asked me how I’m doing. We have conversations off the air about some of the women I know. He’s also coming to judge my bikini competition And you think I’m qualifying to him 😂😂😂
I will fight him freaking TOMORROW@@MichaelSartain
@@MichaelSartainWhy did you 180 on fighting fat kid in Brazil after he accepted your challenge?
We need a The Game movie
Envy and hate is for the weak
Does anyone know if Mystery teaches his routines?
John Anthony gonna get butt hurt and start saying Mystery got no game haha
Rollo's question was very confusing.
What's up skid Marks
Look at this! Really men are wine.
Do a Q&A with Chase Amante
The only thing i dont understand is why mystery says he doesnt do infield because of discretion, when he literally uploaded an infield clip of him and his students 8 days ago 😂😂 (on beckster lifestyle)... uncensored faces, too
Although JAL is an A hole , his game is best in the world , it’s literally the funnel system form start to close “ don’t try to pull in the first hour” dude that’s wayyy off, the brain works on frequency and recency , you can import comfort on credit , you can easily pull earlier in the night.
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I think we are looking at a great Red pill PUA hybrid.PUA gives hope when you are down
Mind you do does Rp and even Bp to a degree
I don't know the host of this program, but I feel like he's trying to lecture people who have spent their whole lives in their profession. He gets excited about some simple tricks as if he just discovered them. The sense of embarrassment is at its peak. He tries to be more important than his guests. He really has a huge ego and gets excited like a child. Only pity remains.
Guys. Stop cutting Mystery off when he's mid-flow. I mean fucking hell, it's incredible the lack of social skills men have today. Social media fucked them up.
Or “You have beautiful eyes… especially the left one”.
Technically insightful, although Mistery is like if you took that Rasta hobo from the corner of the street you see in all these 80's action movies, always high and careless but in his case famous, not a single f*ck given at all time.
„Have you read the rational male?“ he asks… Why would Erik want to read a watered down version of his own intellectual property.
😂 watered-down version what are you talking about? Mystery teaches you how to get a girl. Rollo teaches you. Dating self-defense getting zeroed out self-defense. Learning that there's no such thing as the one. Which is something mystery still suffers from
@@freegender930 Rollo is a beta in a marriage for 20 years. He referred to having one daughter as „I am playing the the game with my hands tied behind my back.“ What game? He is not in the game, he is a weird white ivory tower voyeurist with a midlife crisis. Meanwhile Mystery has more field experience, has more children and is playing the field as he always has. Who is the one suffering from oneitis there? The one bragging how hot his post-wall 55 yo wife is and how good his „marriage game“ is, or the one who is active in the field meeting women?
Sartain is way too old for doing this. Looking creepy
Elaborate
@severussin This pua stuff is for young kids .... when I see an old guy like sartain placing women toxic sloots at the centre of his life, it makes him look miserable, pathetic. I understand he is selling coaching programmes to incels, but still doesn't look good at all.
@@freman75how did someone like you even stumbke across this video?
Poor Mystery. She'll of his former self.
You realize he lost his mother and brother during COVID, right? I think he's grounded considering the immense pain he's gone through recently.
The reason Mystery doesn’t get as much respect from the average layman as he does from seasoned PUA guys is that he runs game at such a high level regular guys can’t relate. Even regular direct approach PUA is too hard for most guys which created the entire manosphere stemming from puahate which transformed to redpill and then mgtow. These all stemmed from regular guys not being able to do basic pickup.
Mystery Method is the highest level of pickup and was practiced on the hottest girls in elite Hollywood clubs so of course it works but it’s also way more niche. The average guy can’t hold a 3-set for 25 minutes and then merge it with another 3-set he opened earlier. The average PUA dude can hold a club girl’s attention for 2 minutes before her friend drags her away and you only get those 2 minutes if she likes you. Indirect might be the best way to game the hottest girls at the hottest clubs but it’s unnecessary and too difficult for regular dudes gaming regular-looking chicks at a bar in the Midwest. Or even just regular girls at a bar in silver lake.
Mystery is like Kobe Bryant teaching a bunch of regular dudes at the park how to shoot a buzzer-beater from the three-point line when you’re being triple-teamed. Regular dudes now can’t even do basic pickup to get an HB5 which is why videos talking about how ridiculous girls are nowadays are far more popular than PUA videos teaching you how to actually pickup.
Game doesn’t exist, vvomen go for LOOKS.
@@masteryoda498 spoken like a dude with a single-digit lay count 😂
@@ted6580
Who said that I was a Cassanova?, I’m not, if I want to get laid, I have to pay a mature age lady of the night, as I’m too ugly for civilian vvomen, but that’s life and my tough luck.
But my point stands, game doesn’t exist, vvomen PRESELECT the men they want based on the man’s LOOKS, not what comes out of his mouth.
You need to get B.lackpilled, and fast.
John Anthony accepted your fight challenge. Why did you change your mind?
grab some people to come with you to another club... do not fucking do this. unless you don't live there. Bouncers aren't going to let you in anymore
Michael seeking validation from Mystery is so cringe
What’s hilarious is that I’m not seeking validation but I’m actually trying to help him see new developments when it comes to game. Mainly social media. I’m going to show my clients this comment you made to show them what shortsightedness looks like
@@MichaelSartain I don't believe you're genuinely "friends" with all these narcissistic plastic surgery trainwrecks who shoot poison into their foreheads to mask authentic expression. I also don't believe you even want this life, which is why you committed to a woman (with a tough past). What does this type of clout do for you, anyway? Not even condescending - you're wayyy too intelligent to possibly be fulfilled by all this crap.
Nah bro.
There are mentors that Michael respects and honors and looks up to. And that's great because he's been able to have many of them on the show to help educate *all* of us.
But Mystery isn't the only mentor Michael has had. Michael has worked his way up, cross-pollinating and synthesizing ideas with his own experience. He has plenty of his own standing at the party and things to share that've been outside the focus of others.
Sartain is a cringecell
@@MichaelSartainNah bro 😂
1:11:21 I think what Dylan is trying to say is your dream girl is whoever you make it, if it's not then aren't you adhering to the myth of the soul mate?