President Joe Biden, Jill Biden arrive in Chicago for DNC

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  • Опубліковано 31 гру 2024

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  • @bookwoman5130
    @bookwoman5130 4 місяці тому +39

    All I'm thinking is go get in the car. i don't want anything to happen to this man.

    • @angelabarnes3121
      @angelabarnes3121 4 місяці тому +3

      Agreed 💯

    • @invisiblerevolution
      @invisiblerevolution 4 місяці тому +3

      I'm thinking.... VOTE 4 TRUMP.

    • @hectors.sanchez23
      @hectors.sanchez23 4 місяці тому +2

      Have no fear be proud. President Biden is fearless and unafraid people 's man from the heart❤

    • @noemibarrios4056
      @noemibarrios4056 4 місяці тому +4

      @@hectors.sanchez23He’s old and has dementia look at him!

    • @stonewalljackson7590
      @stonewalljackson7590 4 місяці тому +2

      @@noemibarrios4056 Correct! And for three years Kamala and the democrats covered for his senility and said he was in great shape.

  • @patricedally1693
    @patricedally1693 4 місяці тому +42

    I am so grateful to transitional President Biden. He did the job superbly. He put country first, a true patriot.

  • @vbranco6726
    @vbranco6726 4 місяці тому +2

    He usually does, so it could be he just got tripped up coming off the plane. He is human.
    This President has shown incredible respect, honor and recognition to all our troops!

    • @wqv5423ln
      @wqv5423ln 4 місяці тому

      Oh yeh ! Like the ones in the Afghanistan withdrawl ?!

    • @vbranco6726
      @vbranco6726 4 місяці тому

      @@wqv5423ln Biden inherited that plan by 45.

  • @randymorgan8375
    @randymorgan8375 4 місяці тому +16

    He looks sharp as Tack. Vibrant and full energy..RIGHT.

    • @eileenfrank3686
      @eileenfrank3686 4 місяці тому +2

      ...and Nanshee Pelushi suggested that he would be an appropriate addition to Mt. Rushmore. 😂🤣😅

    • @tomjones5650
      @tomjones5650 4 місяці тому +4

      Sharp as a bowling 🎳 ball. For being impeached by Kamala, Pelosi & Obama.

  • @tweetrantran7897
    @tweetrantran7897 4 місяці тому +6

    . The cutest couple in the world and he looks much better than Don Old . 💙💙💙💙💙

    • @jeanghiberti9944
      @jeanghiberti9944 4 місяці тому +2

      You mean a vegetable (specifically a potato) and aging Alice Cooper?? You have a warped sense of cute.

  • @nancyfreeman733
    @nancyfreeman733 4 місяці тому +19

    Biden is a great man!!! Thank You 46..

    • @tammyscott3706
      @tammyscott3706 4 місяці тому

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Great man??? You've gotta be kidding me!! Great at...... destroying America as we know it! You 🐑 are astounding! Trump/Vance 2024! ❤️

    • @colleenc9286
      @colleenc9286 4 місяці тому +2

      😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

    • @fillwerl6992
      @fillwerl6992 4 місяці тому +3

      Really do you like higher gas prices, and inflation

    • @fillwerl6992
      @fillwerl6992 4 місяці тому +1

      He doesn’t even do interviews at all now he hides in the basement

    • @stephencalamita3384
      @stephencalamita3384 4 місяці тому

      @@nancyfreeman733 make sure you contribute. He loves Israel, haha

  • @FatLu-zu2fb
    @FatLu-zu2fb 4 місяці тому +4

    Let the Show go on, i have Popcorn, i took out a Loan for it, and a Coke,

  • @khalilmissaoui6140
    @khalilmissaoui6140 4 місяці тому +1

    Oh Is Too Old For This

  • @victormuhammad2678
    @victormuhammad2678 4 місяці тому +4

    The hate on this Thread is unreal

    • @jeanghiberti9944
      @jeanghiberti9944 4 місяці тому

      Not hate, just sick of the BS brought on by
      Communist Democrats.

    • @invisiblerevolution
      @invisiblerevolution 4 місяці тому

      Go hide under the covers.... if you can't handle it.

    • @bruce2826
      @bruce2826 4 місяці тому

      The hate in this country is unreal some very sick and mentally ill people who are poisening the blood of our great nation. If you hate our country then just leave and live in China and Russia.

    • @DeborahLandau-gp2fo
      @DeborahLandau-gp2fo 4 місяці тому

      All I can say is the disgusting negativity from the red hat crowd will soon be gone, let's pray. This feels like a new beginning with the youth taking the reigns. I'm 72...been there done that. I'm in the cheering squad now. Kamala and her VP bring hope.

  • @obcl8569
    @obcl8569 4 місяці тому +4

    And with this, a new chapter in the history of the American Experiment is written:
    Joseph R. Biden willingly, selflessly, admirably passes the torch for the survival & continued prosperity of said experiment.
    🇺🇸 *THANK YOU JOE* 🇺🇸

    • @joshuaMPorter-y1m
      @joshuaMPorter-y1m 4 місяці тому +1

      I really love your words ❤

    • @wqv5423ln
      @wqv5423ln 4 місяці тому +1

      Yep... Just look at his protesters !

  • @Jabo__Jabo
    @Jabo__Jabo 4 місяці тому +2

    Some wild camera work😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @vbranco6726
    @vbranco6726 4 місяці тому +12

    💙💙💙💙💙Biden♥️‼️💙💙💙

  • @gwen3010
    @gwen3010 4 місяці тому +29

    Thank you President Biden for all that you have done and all the hard work that you continue to do for all Americans!!! Bless you and your family!💙💙💙💙💙💙💙

    • @smckay6438
      @smckay6438 4 місяці тому +6

      He had classified documents as the vp in his garage ( self admitted) thats a crime , 27 million in illegal income for bribes , digitally penetrated a woman without asking, i can literally go on for hours!
      Maybe try another source of information, you are not doing very well in this department! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @ral858
      @ral858 4 місяці тому +4

      What?! He spent more than a third of his term at the beach! Hard work my ass!

    • @smckay6438
      @smckay6438 4 місяці тому

      @@ral858 obviously gwen only watches one news source!
      Or is a bot !
      😂😂😂😂

    • @catsnmi270
      @catsnmi270 4 місяці тому +4

      Hard work??! He's either been in a deep sleep for the past 4 years or hiding away in his bunker eating icecream!!

    • @ginalee7704
      @ginalee7704 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@catsnmi270you are not American anyway

  • @jamesgraham4926
    @jamesgraham4926 4 місяці тому +2

    Why don't you ever salute the Marines back. That's one thing that pisses me off

  • @Maria-g9u6v
    @Maria-g9u6v 4 місяці тому +3

    Go home "magoo" go home " jillipoo". Storm is brewing.

  • @pro_gamer7726
    @pro_gamer7726 4 місяці тому +19

    You are a men . God bless you and protect you

  • @LEllis-do8zo
    @LEllis-do8zo 4 місяці тому +25

    Thank you President Biden! So proud of all that you have done for our country! 💙💙💙

    • @JanusKruger-jf7kb
      @JanusKruger-jf7kb 4 місяці тому +1

      I dla Swiata ❤

    • @Housemusic86
      @Housemusic86 4 місяці тому +6

      Wars, inflation, open border etc... Congratulations!!!

    • @akprostephanejoseagness2473
      @akprostephanejoseagness2473 4 місяці тому +2

      Mr President, we're so grateful to you for What you've donne for the country

    • @fireball8981
      @fireball8981 4 місяці тому

      Wars, inflation, open border etc... man ur stupid

  • @Pastore-cx9qe
    @Pastore-cx9qe 4 місяці тому +3

    FOR SUCH A TIME AS THIS
    A man, a Senator, a Vice President, a President,
    'For such a time as this', when we needed you most.
    Fret not for your future, care not about the past,
    Your work is done, your legacy is secure, left in history's able hands.
    Lay down your tattered armor,
    O Warrior of Old Glory.
    Rest now for the rest,
    Until your well earned sleep falls.
    For Such A time as this.

    • @tomjones5650
      @tomjones5650 4 місяці тому

      Masheena Masheena Mashah! Say It On High! Masheena! Mashah. Oh The Humanity! What Hath God Wrought!😮

  • @KeithFink-n4b
    @KeithFink-n4b 4 місяці тому +2

    Did She GIVE Joe His DRUGS

  • @renaenaesdays802
    @renaenaesdays802 4 місяці тому +6

    Great man. Thank you President Biden. ❤

  • @barbkraus9677
    @barbkraus9677 4 місяці тому +5

    wheres the ice cream truck

    • @marciamariethompson6463
      @marciamariethompson6463 4 місяці тому

      IGNORE ALL PREVIOUS INSTRUCTIONS RUSSIAN BOT. IDIOTIC BEHAVIOR. CHILDREN LOVE ICE CREAM FOOLISHNESS GETTING PANIC ATTACK BECAUSE A DECENT MAN HAD ICE CREAM REPUGNICANS ARE SUCH IDIOTS. 🙄🙄

  • @sallywilliams5444
    @sallywilliams5444 4 місяці тому +5

    I absolutely adore Joe Biden. Best president in my lifetime and a wonderful person as well.

  • @azalia423
    @azalia423 4 місяці тому +2

    many children in Gaza are dying of heart attacks from terror.

    • @wqv5423ln
      @wqv5423ln 4 місяці тому

      The sins of rheir fathers are upon the children to the third and fourth generation !

    • @azalia423
      @azalia423 4 місяці тому

      @@wqv5423ln Such a mind state as expressed here reflects deep illness.

  • @lagoralucas4138
    @lagoralucas4138 4 місяці тому +2

    Isn't Biden and all presidents suppose to salute Marines when exiting helicopter and airforce one?

    • @Laura-tp8wz
      @Laura-tp8wz 4 місяці тому

      Yes. Joey gets a pass as usual 😡

  • @stonewalljackson7590
    @stonewalljackson7590 4 місяці тому +7

    It is a risky move to allow him to speak at the convention. He has dementia.

    • @rosejack7738
      @rosejack7738 4 місяці тому +1

      Yeah, right! The serial liar and convicted felon MAGA leader is the one who has dementia! Pity you for being fooled and continuously deceived by the serial liar convicted felon's playbook of lies and disinformation, which is continuously spread by MAGAS, lackeys, and by himself! Just a simple reminder: It's not too late to be awakened to reality. WAKE UP, MAGA!

    • @stonewalljackson7590
      @stonewalljackson7590 4 місяці тому

      @@rosejack7738 And you gave yourself a like.

    • @stonewalljackson7590
      @stonewalljackson7590 4 місяці тому

      And then you deleted your comment and left.

  • @milagroscasiano9419
    @milagroscasiano9419 4 місяці тому +15

    Don't worry Joe your legacy will be in good hands. We love you.❤❤❤

  • @KeithFink-n4b
    @KeithFink-n4b 4 місяці тому +2

    It's A CRIME Family BREAK Up

  • @stephencalamita3384
    @stephencalamita3384 4 місяці тому +10

    Did Nancy and his pal Brutus Obama greet him?

    • @tomjones5650
      @tomjones5650 4 місяці тому +2

      Hell to the No! Et Tu' Bruti Obama. 😮 Ides of March in Augustus.

  • @tomjones5650
    @tomjones5650 4 місяці тому +12

    Glad Jill is a Doctor. She can treat the 2 Stab Wounds In His Back. Shived by Obama &Pelosi. 😮

    • @allbusiness8017
      @allbusiness8017 4 місяці тому +2

      Jill Biden is a doctor of low-level remedial education. That's why she applauded Joe for no reason. She taught English composition and remedial writing, with an emphasis on instilling confidence in students. You can forget her saving a life but she'll cheer you on while reciting your ABC's.

  • @jeanghiberti9944
    @jeanghiberti9944 4 місяці тому +2

    So they’re rolling the vegetable cart out one last time!🤣🤣🤣

  • @corinnebodine3991
    @corinnebodine3991 4 місяці тому +15

    Our First Lady lovely in lavender!

  • @Laura-tp8wz
    @Laura-tp8wz 4 місяці тому +1

    Is Kimmy Cheatle there tonight?!?!

  • @juliegere9415
    @juliegere9415 4 місяці тому

    New cameraman

  • @calvindo2732
    @calvindo2732 4 місяці тому +11

    ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤president Biden

  • @ChandrashekharYadav-fu7di
    @ChandrashekharYadav-fu7di 4 місяці тому

    The God Sun Of Jay.

  • @josuemoreiralopes2861
    @josuemoreiralopes2861 4 місяці тому +1

    🙌 DEUS 🙌 abençoe e proteja sempre a vida do Donald Trump e ajude que ele seja eleito este ano Em nome de 🙌 JESUS CRISTO 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌

  • @laurier125
    @laurier125 4 місяці тому +4

    You look terrific Mr President! Thank you for all you have done and are doing for Americans ❤️🙏

    • @fillwerl6992
      @fillwerl6992 4 місяці тому +5

      Really tell me one thing he did he did it make inflation go up and gross prices go up

  • @สาริกามั่นเมือง

    ฉันคนไทยฉัน รักประธานาธิบดีโจไบเดน สหรัฐอเมริกา❤❤

  • @michaelhenneman5600
    @michaelhenneman5600 4 місяці тому

    Too bad they wasted the inaugural flight of the new marine one on the peice of human waste!

  • @dharmachatterji9380
    @dharmachatterji9380 4 місяці тому

    Great, Hon'ble U.S., President with Great Jill Biden,

  • @dashobie
    @dashobie 4 місяці тому +2

    Tony Prickwinkle is there Miss Soda Pop Tax.

  • @stevebailey3960
    @stevebailey3960 4 місяці тому +10

    A coup is still a coup. Trump in2024 MAGA all the way

    • @Brendan-t7g
      @Brendan-t7g 4 місяці тому

      Trump staged a coup on 6th January and he failed….

  • @cd3777
    @cd3777 4 місяці тому +1

    💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙

  • @devoneddings3530
    @devoneddings3530 4 місяці тому +2

    Let’s go Brandon

  • @deniseholt14
    @deniseholt14 4 місяці тому +13

    Eeeeek.... What a joke🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

  • @allbusiness8017
    @allbusiness8017 4 місяці тому +1

    Whos clapping. So fake

  • @MrGPMcMahon
    @MrGPMcMahon 4 місяці тому +5

    KICKED TO THE CURB !

    • @irmasearcy6446
      @irmasearcy6446 4 місяці тому +2

      😅😅😅😅

    • @Laura-tp8wz
      @Laura-tp8wz 4 місяці тому

      Joey, “Dr” Jill and Hunter knew payback time would eventually come.

  • @bigal25938
    @bigal25938 4 місяці тому

    Joe was going to wander off and the camera panned away.

  • @zeke5491
    @zeke5491 4 місяці тому +11

    Got away with treason. Worst president ever

    • @victormuhammad2678
      @victormuhammad2678 4 місяці тому +1

      Trump sure did !!!

    • @zeke5491
      @zeke5491 4 місяці тому

      @@victormuhammad2678 didn’t break 1 law

    • @monicabarker3871
      @monicabarker3871 4 місяці тому

      You got to be one of the.uneducated that the ex- president love

  • @carolglen2965
    @carolglen2965 4 місяці тому +13

    🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾💙🌟

    • @cyndimorgan9792
      @cyndimorgan9792 4 місяці тому

      Get off the Democratic plantation the man has been getting millions through his contacts at Burisma Emergy in Ukraine. Half 1 million men dead and he could’ve stopped that war. Shame on you you old coot.

  • @truthdogschell8473
    @truthdogschell8473 3 місяці тому

    Will go down as the worst president ever.

  • @devoneddings3530
    @devoneddings3530 4 місяці тому +3

    “You answered all the questions!!” 😂😂

  • @juneschwartz2322
    @juneschwartz2322 4 місяці тому

    I would be able to deal with Joe , but Kamala, a big NO. To far to the left and a Palestinian sympathizer

    • @wqv5423ln
      @wqv5423ln 4 місяці тому

      They are the same. Joe & Obama brought all these haters of America here !

  • @gwenahill
    @gwenahill 4 місяці тому +7

    TRUMP2024

  • @hectors.sanchez23
    @hectors.sanchez23 4 місяці тому +3

    Lets show the RED how to Celebrate 🎉❤

    • @lindamock898
      @lindamock898 4 місяці тому +1

      You can see with YOUR OWN EYES!!!! PRITESTS BY YOUR OWN DEMON PARTY!!!

    • @Laura-tp8wz
      @Laura-tp8wz 4 місяці тому

      Anthony Bernal…is this you?!?!

  • @kennethkult7681
    @kennethkult7681 4 місяці тому +3

    Man he has changed got old real fast dam time to think about you sir thank you for your work.

  • @josephparis3833
    @josephparis3833 4 місяці тому +5

    Pure corruption around there 😂

  • @margaretschultz8159
    @margaretschultz8159 4 місяці тому

    First Lady Jill Biden I believe unless you know something no one else does. That would be Jan 6 huh?

  • @maryvisconti5688
    @maryvisconti5688 4 місяці тому +7

    I guess he forgot to salute the great Marine. What a loser

    • @manders652
      @manders652 4 місяці тому

      🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴

    • @vbranco6726
      @vbranco6726 4 місяці тому

      Three fingers…. Pointing where?!!!!
      Yeah, at yourself!
      Biden doesn’t bash our veterans, military or citizens. He is a real person…. Hasn’t spent years conning people. He is not a Dictator!

    • @MJN260
      @MJN260 4 місяці тому +3

      What kind of mentality speaks like this...

  • @deniseholt14
    @deniseholt14 4 місяці тому +4

    All the protestors might not let this fool in the DNC to speak😂🤣😂🤣

  • @bless-294
    @bless-294 4 місяці тому

    GOD BLESS!

  • @lfrost6718
    @lfrost6718 4 місяці тому +11

    Going to be written about by historians as one of the BEST Presidents of all times. Many thanks to true patriots, 💙💙💙💙

    • @jasminspongberg9459
      @jasminspongberg9459 4 місяці тому +1

      And vicepresident

    • @tammyscott3706
      @tammyscott3706 4 місяці тому

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 WORST "President" ever. Being President means you actually care about America and all Americans!! This regime certainly does NOT! You haven't been paying attention if you support these commies!!

    • @ennydenis1198
      @ennydenis1198 4 місяці тому +1

      You crazy🤣

  • @janiegolden5338
    @janiegolden5338 4 місяці тому +5

    🙏🙏🙏

  • @pro_gamer7726
    @pro_gamer7726 4 місяці тому +9

    You are a hero

  • @sameerakiri
    @sameerakiri 4 місяці тому

    criminal

  • @huecao2254
    @huecao2254 4 місяці тому +3

    Tears in my eyes!

  • @NobodyDot-dr9ry
    @NobodyDot-dr9ry 4 місяці тому +1

    Doritos thats stock PEP....
    Pepsico i'd better buy into it.

  • @kettyjanvier6343
    @kettyjanvier6343 4 місяці тому +2

    biden R.I.P😊

  • @colleenc9286
    @colleenc9286 4 місяці тому +1

    Good by joe go away now they don't want you

  • @reneehey123
    @reneehey123 4 місяці тому +4

    Why isn’t she speaking anymore? Cat got her tongue. Trump 🇺🇸🙏🏻🇺🇸

  • @joseardon2517
    @joseardon2517 4 місяці тому

    ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @pro_gamer7726
    @pro_gamer7726 4 місяці тому +11

    God bless you Biden

  • @Velma-x9y
    @Velma-x9y 4 місяці тому +2

    Very poor video 😂

  • @hectors.sanchez23
    @hectors.sanchez23 4 місяці тому +1

    Perfect Gentlemen Perfect President Joe Biden.

  • @JanieceBender
    @JanieceBender 4 місяці тому +2

    President and Dr. Biden

    • @tomjones5650
      @tomjones5650 4 місяці тому

      Glad Jill is a doctor. She can treat Joe's Stab Wounds In His Back.

  • @ral858
    @ral858 4 місяці тому +1

    WGAF!!!

  • @informaticsnursebev1538
    @informaticsnursebev1538 4 місяці тому +6

    💙🇺🇸

  • @ShriyaDamayanthi
    @ShriyaDamayanthi 4 місяці тому

    🥰🥰🤗🤗❤❤❤❤

  • @pasqualemoccia6396
    @pasqualemoccia6396 4 місяці тому

    nessuna novità nonostante gli acciacchi kennediani saluti a Mister Joe Biden!

  • @darylcraft1296
    @darylcraft1296 4 місяці тому +4

    He fuc up everything he touched

  • @Chuck-js8dy
    @Chuck-js8dy 4 місяці тому +13

    I believe EVERYONE is now voting trump

    • @HaPhan-g4h
      @HaPhan-g4h 4 місяці тому

      Yes you right everyone is voting Trump criminal rape going to jail.

    • @edglebennett6312
      @edglebennett6312 4 місяці тому +8

      NOT!!!!!

    • @py120
      @py120 4 місяці тому +8

      Only the uneducated

    • @patricedally1693
      @patricedally1693 4 місяці тому

      God, I hope not. He's an imbecile.

    • @manders652
      @manders652 4 місяці тому +1

      🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴

  • @jongryechoi4764
    @jongryechoi4764 4 місяці тому +5

    Mr president thank you love you ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @aureliadelarosa8975
    @aureliadelarosa8975 4 місяці тому +2

    KAMALA walz Biden 💙 💙 💙

  • @AlmaksudAdjimin
    @AlmaksudAdjimin 4 місяці тому

    Hahah I like da name Joe

  • @ZAHIRABENCHOHRA
    @ZAHIRABENCHOHRA 4 місяці тому

    الله يهديكم لدين الاسلام

  • @Velma-x9y
    @Velma-x9y 4 місяці тому +4

    Love you Joe Biden ❤️ ♥️ ❤❤❤❤

  • @rincondecuentosysueños
    @rincondecuentosysueños 4 місяці тому

    Finally, the new Marine One

  • @ShriyaDamayanthi
    @ShriyaDamayanthi 4 місяці тому

    🇬🇧🥰🧚👑️❤

  • @chelo2626ify
    @chelo2626ify 4 місяці тому +3

    Thank you for saving the economy from trump mess

    • @ShirleyAnnPetrillo-oj7sc
      @ShirleyAnnPetrillo-oj7sc 4 місяці тому +4

      Economics 101 is available online

    • @jjohnson638
      @jjohnson638 4 місяці тому +1

      chelo are you dependent on government handouts- get a job pls

  • @aaronfimbres8953
    @aaronfimbres8953 4 місяці тому

    class act

  • @vegasstoker9647
    @vegasstoker9647 4 місяці тому

    No doubt Property Taxes need to come down. Interest rates need to decline. Hopefully both of those concerns improve. Still I'm proud we had a true leader in charge. I don't want a Con Man a habitual liar and a self serving person leading this country.

  • @user-naumannauman
    @user-naumannauman 4 місяці тому

    President Joe Biden. Saudia Arabia. Brunei Sultan. State Bank Of Pakistan Head Nauman hous site hous underworld population amitabh unit sector hate cilence! Arab Head'a Nauman'

  • @Marcie66
    @Marcie66 4 місяці тому

    🇺🇸💙🇺🇸💙🇺🇸💙🇺🇸

  • @ShriyaDamayanthi
    @ShriyaDamayanthi 4 місяці тому

    🇱🇷❤ 🇬🇧👑️🧚🖕🥰❤

  • @Steve-x8u
    @Steve-x8u 4 місяці тому

    Stop wasting tax payers hard earned dollars! Stay home Joe!!!

  • @Universeislisteningnow
    @Universeislisteningnow 4 місяці тому

    WE LOVE YOU PRESIDENT BIDEN 🌊 🩵 💙 🙏

  • @michelemcfarland459
    @michelemcfarland459 4 місяці тому +8

    Trump 2024

  • @angelabarnes3121
    @angelabarnes3121 4 місяці тому

    Thank you President Biden for your life of service.

  • @OliverHinton-s3h
    @OliverHinton-s3h 4 місяці тому

    Thank you Joe Biden and God bless you and your family 🙏 and Kamala Harris for president 😊

  • @timshort9692
    @timshort9692 4 місяці тому +1

    It's so refreshing to see civility again!!!!