I heard once that Bender reset during the lightbulb breaking scene, with evidence in the episode The Birdbot of Ice-Catraz, Bender will take the personality best suited to the environment when finishing resetting. Being in the criminal heads part of the head museum, he took on a law breaker attitude
Yes but this was later retconned/disproven in a later episode where we get to "see through the eyes of a bending unit" and we see that they're basically built to perform heinous actions, then when bender looks through them he claims that "it's like seeing double" confirming that's how he already saw the world after being built. But that adds another contradiction I wish you touch up on when it comes to robots being built in a factory and having their education programmed into them after they're made or if their born by robots having sex and go to real college with their own robot frats like Robot house on Mars University
@@rgmoses2189 Some Robots are born via conception, it's clarified in the episode that because factories couldn't keep up with the demand for robots they- the robots- were programmed with the ability to also make babies. So both are true! No contradiction. At least, not with that specific point.
That doesn't mean they're not still important. People rarely mention that they're breathing, but breathing is important. In fact, it can often be that important things are never mentioned because they're just inherently understood by everyone; there's nothing to talk about; they're already the water we swim in.
@@anthonymercuri8885 Weird tangent you went on but my point was they made a big deal how everyone has to do the job they're assigned and the only reason Fry, Leela and Bender got their new jobs is because the old crew was killed. later episodes however show character, especially fry and bender, change jobs with no issue.
@@Sceneometry *Man I’m full of them. I went to school for film, I’m a pop culture encyclopedia, and I can theorize like no other. Not sure how big your behind the scenes crew is but if you ever expand and hire writers or researchers, please let the next comment be my try out*
@@Sceneometry *I have the best fan theory. The Matrix is terminator sequel. In the matrix Morpheus says how the war started has been forgotten over time, but they do know humans blocked out the sun so the machines can’t use solar power. John Conner gets put into the matrix (forcefully or him sacrificing himself) and because he is a man out of time due to his dad being from the future, his genetic material being passed down eventually leads to neo (and possibly the “other ones”) Ths prophecy could actually be a plan by people from John Conner’s time. While decoding the Matrix so the humans could utilize it they realize that John’s brain works differently and he could bend the laws of physics. Then they theorize that if his dna getting passed down through the system would eventually allow for people to fight from the inside. So he sacrifices his freedom and allows himself to be captured and put into the matrix. But since there are so many humans, the trait is so rare, and so few people are looking, it takes forever to find someone with the gift. So long that it’s forgotten and the whole concept becomes a legend. Kind of like how the second coming of Jesus is now. most have heard about it, a lot of people have a working understanding of it, but most think it’s just a story, & the out of the ones that do believe it only a small percentage believe it will be in their lifetime.*
In "Hell is Other Robots" Bender stops drinking and switches to "good old mineral oil. Mmm. Functional." meaning that Robots don't HAVE to drink. Mineral Oil will suffice. However, this is never mentioned again, and most episodes treat robot sobriety as an inverse of human sobriety. So, make of that what you will.
@@Wendy_O._Koopa if the point was double standards, Bender would condemn the drinking of alcohol, and then chug communion wine, claiming that it's sanctified, so it's alright.
As soon as you said Phil Hartman was supposed to play Zapp Brannigan, I immediately ran his voice with zaps body through my head and oh my God it sounded perfect. Rest in peace Phil Hartman
@@SceneometryI was gonna say now that you mention he was supposed to be Zapp Brannigan, his voice is kind of reminiscent of Phil Hartman. In particular it makes me think of Troy McClure.
@@Sceneometry hey scenemonetry I'm curious also I think I might have already asked this and if I did I'm sorry are you going to overanalyze the box art for the DVD releases I think they have some amazing details especially when you take the DVD cases and put them together and get a huge picture
My headcannon as to why Nibbler used that name: It actually took several attempts to alter the timeline before Nibbler figured out how to get Fry in a position where he could inconspicuously nudge him into the cryo pod. In all other attempts he didn't sit down, he just left the Pizza and walked away. Realizing he'd been duped and there was no one to take the delivery is what actually allows Nibbler to get him in the pod without being seen.
That's an interesting theory/method of time travel: rewinding *yourself* to the point where you altered the timeline and making a different choice. Like reloading a save in a video game. I haven't seen that a lot.
@@Sceneometry It's actually the main mechanic of the Prince of Persia: Sands of Time game. I've always wondered why so few time travel plots consider the possibility that the time travel device would be built with short term do-overs in mind. Especially given how surgical something like altering the time line might need to be.
@@HaveYouTriedGuillotines I think the biggest reason is that it's really hard to write an interesting narrative where the main character just gets infinite save states to do things right with no consequences and can stop rolling time back at will. It means there's basically no stakes of any kind, especially since it leads to other "but wouldn't they" questions like "but wouldn't they have it automatically trigger if the user's lifesigns stop" and the like. There are some that have redo-type things? But usually with some sort of negative fallout if they keep doing it too much. Weirdly, I feel like the closest example to what you're talking about is the videogame Undertale? If you're unfamiliar, a lot of it revolves around making saving, loading, and resetting to the start of the narrative a canonical thing you can do as the main character; more metafiction than time travel, but it's basically the same thing in practice. And a huge part of the game is about analyzing the ethics of that sort of ability and what it means relative to the people around you and how it could impact your perception of them. The 2020 Twilight Zone episode "Try, Try" was another interesting example of that, all about a single instance of a time loop scenario from the perspective of, not the one looping, but one of the people they interact with during their "mastered the loop" phase. It might be worth giving a look too.
@@Idran The situation is honestly quite the opposite. The potential of the user of such a device to work themselves into some very exotic problems is very high... And perhaps more importantly, what makes such a plot device interesting isn't the stakes, but the intrigue. Basically, what gets revealed by using the device, _even fully successfully._ I don't remember that twilight zone episode, but it's probably an example of that. You do know about the whole conundrum of going back in time and trying to unalive a certain failed painter with a square mustache, right? It goes like this: If you did that, someone would simply replace him, and create a similar situation. Then you go back to try and unalive that person, and then someone would replace that person too. So maybe you go back in time and just start topping anyone that is responsible for creating the environment to begin with. Sure, you can do that, but you might come back to the future to discover that you made every bit as bad a mess trying to fix the original problem. There was a Star Trek episode, Voyager I believe, about an alien with a time machine that was stuck in a vicious cycle of repeatedly trying to fix the past, only to fail over and over because anything they did just created new problems. Sure, you could have infinite tries to make changes, but that in itself is what makes the story interesting. The attempts themselves. What fails, or even the details of what works. The big issue isn't the narrative, but the creativity and effort needed. I. E. the idea of Nibbler having to try many times and adjust his efforts would produce a lot of interesting failures, and a ton of potential for comedy in those failures. But that's maybe too much to think about and too much to depict without dedicating an episode or even several episodes to it. You could in theory have an entire comedy about someone trying to fix problems with time travel, and all the interesting ways their efforts fail, and all the things they learn from those failures, and that would be the point: There's enough room in the act of being able to rewind and try again to dedicate entire episodes to such a thing. It can be somewhat hard to cram all that into a single episode or arc of a show that is about so many other things as well... Which might be part of why nibbler's involvement in the pilot episode was only hinted to: Setting up a time travel plot meant to be cashed in on later in the first episode of a show is difficult. The fact they did it at all, even as an easter egg, is really cool. Just a side note: I loathe Undertale with a passion I cannot adequately describe here without triggering the website's sensor ship AI (and no that is not a typo, it sometimes triggers on the word sensor ship when spelled correctly). Part of it is the game's concentrated Tumblr culture... The other part of why I loathe it is the meta narrative. The game actively punishes the player for trying to see all the paths, which is breaking one of the most fundamental rules of good game design: Not to punish the player for playing the game.
If you do make a "Things I missed", i suggest 'If all of Old New York is buried underground, how is Fry's building on the surface? Did they relocate it and only it?
14:15 fun fact: the professor does indeed use that line again in one of the recent episodes. I would say which to be specific, but i am already in my pajamas.
Yes, Bender's zapping on Episode 1 is crucial for the whole series in how it "freed" Bender. Not sure freed is the correct word but good as any. This is the most cannon impacting zapping of all time :P
The arcade cabinet explanation made me feel so old, and I was born in 2003, so I’m well within the generation that would benefit from that explanation; for those older than me, I can imagine the feeling is much stronger.
Just watched your "WAs Nibbler in the pilot" vid. Came to your channel to check it out. I like breakdown videos. I just binged a Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul breakdown channel. Let's see what cha got!
@@TOBAPNW_ Yeah, but you'd hire someone who knew Old English (to the best of our ability) if you expected to have to interact with a bunch of speakers of it. But in this case it's at most like the difference between EmE and Modern English, so it'd just need a few rules memorized.
14:30 It's counting down in binary (11, 10, 01 instead of 3, 2, 1) as the robots can presumably innately read it, and would be included like how appliance instructions are written multilingual.
Glad I found this tonight when I did -- first I'm hearing of Futurama coming back (to Hulu) in 2023. I'll certainly give it a try -- if it's still half as funny as it was the last time it was being produced, it will still be better than almost anything else going today.
I was skeptical of the Nibbler shadow myself until I saw someone had posted the first ep WITH COMMERCIALS on UA-cam (or maybe the first 10 minutes) and there he was! Too bad Fry's shadow isn't there too. Looks like the video has been removed, or leastwise I can't find it again.
My personal nerd rating: Near Mint. The only fact mentioned in here I didn't already know is that Fry was originally called Curtis. Phil Hartman was one of my favourite actors, voice or otherwise. The very idea that I didn't know that tidbit and the meaning behind it shames me a little. Thank you for enlightening me, gonna binge what you've got so far, and I can't wait to see what you've got for us in the future.
The simultaneous countdown always bugged me too! This was the first tv show that I bought on DVD back before the "movies" and resurrection of the show. Still one of my top 5 tv shows. As a total nerd I had to go back and check for Nibbler's shadow and was blown away. Great job and I subcribed! Thank you for sharing your creativity🎖🚀🤖
Clearly Earth finally realized how dumb timezones are and adopted universal time for everything. Morning doesn't have to be 6am for everyone, we don't need multiple 6ams, morning is just whatever time it is in your part of the world when the Sun comes up. Also makes logistics and stuff alot easier between countries or especially off worlders. The big problem with that n the countdowns however is they all appear to be happening during nighttime, although perhaps that goes with Bender moving all those things to one spot!
I always play a game called "Joke or Mistake" on Futurama, like was this a reference to movies like Armageddon where it's sunset worldwide and every country can see the explosion in the sky? or was this just a run-of-the-mill mistake? Another big one I like to bring up is scenes involving the sun where you can see stars. Are we seeing the incredibly-dimmed-so-we-can-make-out-any-features textbook version of the sun, with a backdrop of stars to indicate that it's in space (which you would not be able to see if they dimmed it that much), because they think that's how space _actually looks?_ or are they just parodying every space opera ever made? It's easier in the Simpsons, because like Homer will change the channel on the radio, and his car will stop balancing precariously on the cliff's edge, and that's obviously a joke. But in a sci-fi setting... the lines between what people know and don't know, and what we're expected to accept are so blurred, it makes everything incomprehensible. So, it's a game, what are the rules? how does scoring work? Well, it's not that kind of game. Basically me and Iggy argue about it for a while, and then we do something else.
You're definitely thinking too hard. Its like a Montage, it shows someone learning martial arts in a 5 second segment, that doesnt mean they learned it in 5 seconds. Similar here....unless they started using UNIVERSAL TIME! So all of earth is on the same time zone
5:34 I had never noticed this lower robot fish. I HAD noticed the upper one, many times in fact, although the large goggle-style visor with no pupils had led me to a very different interpretation and a completely different question. Why would a fish need to be wearing an old-fashioned diving suit? It wasn't until this rewatch that I realized that the fins I had thought I saw sticking out of the suit had, in fact, been the fish directly behind it.
6:09 Since everything is recycled in the future I'm guessing the pipe probably uses it to bring waste to a recycling plant right away so it doesn't build up.
i like to think that the medieval world that pops up after new york is destroyed is the world of disenchantment... i dont know if its canon or not but its head canon at least
5:34 The space ninja video game "Warframe" has robot fish you can go cattle prod/spear fish for, and each has a decent lore reason for existing in the wild. From cleaning the water's to collecting and monitoring resources.
So the counter starting at 11 would be a reference to the movie, 'Spinal Tap'; about a fictional rock/metal band. Their volume controls go to 11, because it makes their music "louder".
i wanna mention one thing that bothered me on a recent rewatch: in the scene where leela calls for police backup, her wrist-thingy (i always find it funny it never actually gets named) is on the wrong arm
12:24 what i am personally curious about is how the cryogenics lab survived until fry's de-freeze. unless it was placed just on the border between new york and some other american city, there's no way that cryogenics lab was in any way shape or form transferred over to new new york or that it was the only building that survived.
Tomato/tomato....cop is a delivery job. Look around for your app to send you some where. Go pick up your package(criminal) and drop them off at the jail, so a cop is an expensive delivery boy
The pilot sets up a lot of things that pay off later, along with a lot of things that they quickly abandoned. A lot like most pilots. Also, listen to the audio commentary for these early episodes if you can. They're really inciteful and entertaining, IMO.
3:30 also, in the episode where Zapp joins Planet Express, Hermes compares Doop to “The Federation from your Star Trek programs.” Why wasn’t Hermes arrested then and there?
Love the concept. This is a concept I had in mind as well. However I am no expert on what you're allowed to do on UA-cam, so I did nothing with it. I'm glad someone did though. I have definitely subscribed and look forward to your future videos. Yes if you overthink the show there are going to be a lot of continuity errors as well as things that just don't make sense. In this show particularly, I feel the continuity errors are suppose to be part of the humor of the show, not an actual error. I know in the commentaries they do highlight these continuity errors and add that they sacrificed the continuity so they can make a joke or serve the plot. I'll add in the fact that in the commentaries it feels like the people who put the show together are also doing a similar thing as this video.
The professors off hand mentioning of his "intergalactic spaceship" makes sense in context. Space flight and spaceships are that common its the equivalent of us showing someone our car.
I have to believe that the Overthink Rating is out of 5, because if it were 10 ain't no way we registering just a 3.6 when talking about Fry's relatives or the inconsistency with the timeline due to Bender's Big Score... And with that I think I've just awarded myself a 4.3
I liked your theory about the time traveling president head snatcher, maybe it was the supervillain that New New York elected governor that stole all the monuments for Monument Beach
I was born when a lot of TV was shot/broadcast in black & white especially news & current events. I don't actively remember new shows being B&W but I do remember us having a black & white TV.
Bender saying he can quit drinking is like a regular human saying he doesn't have to abstain from alcohol. We even see Bender go on a binge of non-drinking when he is most vulnerable meaning it's also a vice like alcohol abuse.
Gonna be a massive nerd in this, but here goes Hubert being the last living realitve of Fry isn't off We know one of his parents are related to fry, but they are on the near-death star, and would therefore not be considered alive Hubert's son isn't probably listed as such, meaning Mom doesn't have him on the birth certificate, and yes a parent can be absent from a certificate, so even then she probably has lock and key on all her sons info so to keep it private in the end Cubert isn't probably in any system at all as the professor has him in a stasis tube of sorts, so not living in a legal sense, or at least not capable of being counted Floyd is probably 140 about, and as being homeless, is off the system. After so many years off the system and the grid, you are legally dead. Convoluted, but the Professor being Fry's only living relative actually rings true in the most legal of sense, but yeah
3:15: "Why was the building that contained Fry's cryogenics pod the only one left standing?" 2:15: "First off, we know from Bender's Big Score that *Bender* is piloting this front ship." I did a little time travel to answer your question for you :-p
the reason Bender left the Applied Cryogenics Lab standing is because he knew Fry was in there. Bender did believe he had a backup unit at this point, it should also be common knowledge that suicide prevents you from getting downloaded into a new body. Knowing the Professor, he did in fact build a dedicated nephew identifying device and was just waiting for a flimsy pretense to use it.
2:17 I have a possible explanation for this scene (sorry if it doesn't make sense) basically in the episode "Time Keeps On Slippin'" the crew starts experiencing time skips where they skip through time and their consciousness is sent into the future and the only way this could work is if there's some way their universe is meant to progress but maybe they're able to change little things as long as big events stay the same so maybe in the pilot that wasn't Bender maybe it actually was aliens but later in "Bender's Big Score" Bender changes that and instead he destroys New York but no matter what happens New York has to be destroyed by someone in a flying sorcerer so that's my attempt at finding a way this could work
In the episode where Michelle comes to the future, he calls her boyfriend by a different name rather than Constantine. Maybe she got him to change thinking it was dumb name.
I think the implication was supposed to be that Constantine was just a short-term hookup with a guy hotter than Fry, she got sick of him being not much better, and found her boyfriend/fiance person.
That's one of those global discontinuities that bugs me and makes me wonder...well, I have a theory that I discussed in the most recent live stream. I might put out a video on it. But yes, you are correct about that.
0:09 my mom does and this is not my mom is so old joke she was born in the 60's and remembers watching the moon landing and Woodstock but she was way too young to go to Woodstock (she was only 7)
The "Radio City Mutant Hall" joke is actually redubbed. In the original airing of the episode the guy asks to go to JFK, jr Airport, a joke about how the actual JFK airport was renamed, but then the real JFK, jr died in a plane crash so they redubbed the line as the joke was retroactively considered to be in poor taste.
Sceneometry when correcting "ask" as "aks" because it is archaic pronunciation, but the "ask" pronunciation is consistent with the spelling of the word: "and that's a CinemaSin"
I personally always saw the heads in the jars as clones of the long-dead historical figures. Like, I think somebody in the future found a way to clone them and restore their memories (or maybe even just install them based on what we know from historical books). And not some time travel stuff.
I heard once that Bender reset during the lightbulb breaking scene, with evidence in the episode The Birdbot of Ice-Catraz, Bender will take the personality best suited to the environment when finishing resetting. Being in the criminal heads part of the head museum, he took on a law breaker attitude
Excellent point! (Marking this for "things I missed")
Kind of like Chappie 😂
This also explains why Bender only becomes addicted to electricity after he does it in room full of addicted robots.
Yes but this was later retconned/disproven in a later episode where we get to "see through the eyes of a bending unit" and we see that they're basically built to perform heinous actions, then when bender looks through them he claims that "it's like seeing double" confirming that's how he already saw the world after being built. But that adds another contradiction I wish you touch up on when it comes to robots being built in a factory and having their education programmed into them after they're made or if their born by robots having sex and go to real college with their own robot frats like Robot house on Mars University
@@rgmoses2189 Some Robots are born via conception, it's clarified in the episode that because factories couldn't keep up with the demand for robots they- the robots- were programmed with the ability to also make babies. So both are true! No contradiction. At least, not with that specific point.
it's so funny how important the career chips are in this episode only for them to almost never get referenced again(with a couple of exceptions)
I’m suprised AI didn’t take all their jobs.
You know what else is funny?
Your weiner.
That doesn't mean they're not still important. People rarely mention that they're breathing, but breathing is important. In fact, it can often be that important things are never mentioned because they're just inherently understood by everyone; there's nothing to talk about; they're already the water we swim in.
@@anthonymercuri8885 Weird tangent you went on but my point was they made a big deal how everyone has to do the job they're assigned and the only reason Fry, Leela and Bender got their new jobs is because the old crew was killed.
later episodes however show character, especially fry and bender, change jobs with no issue.
You're right. To be fair, she didn't like the job. To Leela the just would be summed up as "You gotta do what you gotta do!".
*When bender reset among penguins he entered penguin mode. When he reset in the hall of criminals he was reset in criminal mode*
This is a fantastic observation that I'm hoping to discuss in the future!
@@Sceneometry *Man I’m full of them. I went to school for film, I’m a pop culture encyclopedia, and I can theorize like no other. Not sure how big your behind the scenes crew is but if you ever expand and hire writers or researchers, please let the next comment be my try out*
@@Sceneometry *I have the best fan theory. The Matrix is terminator sequel. In the matrix Morpheus says how the war started has been forgotten over time, but they do know humans blocked out the sun so the machines can’t use solar power. John Conner gets put into the matrix (forcefully or him sacrificing himself) and because he is a man out of time due to his dad being from the future, his genetic material being passed down eventually leads to neo (and possibly the “other ones”) Ths prophecy could actually be a plan by people from John Conner’s time. While decoding the Matrix so the humans could utilize it they realize that John’s brain works differently and he could bend the laws of physics. Then they theorize that if his dna getting passed down through the system would eventually allow for people to fight from the inside. So he sacrifices his freedom and allows himself to be captured and put into the matrix. But since there are so many humans, the trait is so rare, and so few people are looking, it takes forever to find someone with the gift. So long that it’s forgotten and the whole concept becomes a legend. Kind of like how the second coming of Jesus is now. most have heard about it, a lot of people have a working understanding of it, but most think it’s just a story, & the out of the ones that do believe it only a small percentage believe it will be in their lifetime.*
"I am already in my pajamas" was brought back in the crypto episode of the hulu run
In "Hell is Other Robots" Bender stops drinking and switches to "good old mineral oil. Mmm. Functional." meaning that Robots don't HAVE to drink. Mineral Oil will suffice. However, this is never mentioned again, and most episodes treat robot sobriety as an inverse of human sobriety. So, make of that what you will.
I definitely would've given extra points had they made a joke when he swapped back to alcohol saying "Mmm. Imperative.".
Maybe the "minerals" in the oil were alcohol, and it was just another joke about religious double standards?
@@Wendy_O._Koopa if the point was double standards, Bender would condemn the drinking of alcohol, and then chug communion wine, claiming that it's sanctified, so it's alright.
@@fandomonium3789 ... Damn, that's a good point. Well, I guess it's an official continuity error then.
There's no continuity in this series for the most part. I actually wonder if upon re-releases of the first episode if Nibbler wasn't added in.
Almost turned off the video at the axe thing due to my own hangups but remembered it's a futurama joke and chilled
As soon as you said Phil Hartman was supposed to play Zapp Brannigan, I immediately ran his voice with zaps body through my head and oh my God it sounded perfect. Rest in peace Phil Hartman
If I'm not mistaken, Billy West deliberately made the voice very Hartman-esque in tribute to Phil.
@@SceneometryI was gonna say now that you mention he was supposed to be Zapp Brannigan, his voice is kind of reminiscent of Phil Hartman. In particular it makes me think of Troy McClure.
To bad his psycho bitch wife murdered him :(
@@StarDragonJPwell his design (well his face) is almost identical to Troy McClure.
@@Sceneometry hey scenemonetry I'm curious also I think I might have already asked this and if I did I'm sorry are you going to overanalyze the box art for the DVD releases I think they have some amazing details especially when you take the DVD cases and put them together and get a huge picture
My headcannon as to why Nibbler used that name: It actually took several attempts to alter the timeline before Nibbler figured out how to get Fry in a position where he could inconspicuously nudge him into the cryo pod.
In all other attempts he didn't sit down, he just left the Pizza and walked away. Realizing he'd been duped and there was no one to take the delivery is what actually allows Nibbler to get him in the pod without being seen.
That's an interesting theory/method of time travel: rewinding *yourself* to the point where you altered the timeline and making a different choice. Like reloading a save in a video game. I haven't seen that a lot.
Nibbler would have been observing Fry for quite a while, and took note of his penchant for falling for obviously-fake names, like "Seymour Asses".
@@Sceneometry
It's actually the main mechanic of the Prince of Persia: Sands of Time game.
I've always wondered why so few time travel plots consider the possibility that the time travel device would be built with short term do-overs in mind. Especially given how surgical something like altering the time line might need to be.
@@HaveYouTriedGuillotines I think the biggest reason is that it's really hard to write an interesting narrative where the main character just gets infinite save states to do things right with no consequences and can stop rolling time back at will. It means there's basically no stakes of any kind, especially since it leads to other "but wouldn't they" questions like "but wouldn't they have it automatically trigger if the user's lifesigns stop" and the like.
There are some that have redo-type things? But usually with some sort of negative fallout if they keep doing it too much.
Weirdly, I feel like the closest example to what you're talking about is the videogame Undertale? If you're unfamiliar, a lot of it revolves around making saving, loading, and resetting to the start of the narrative a canonical thing you can do as the main character; more metafiction than time travel, but it's basically the same thing in practice. And a huge part of the game is about analyzing the ethics of that sort of ability and what it means relative to the people around you and how it could impact your perception of them.
The 2020 Twilight Zone episode "Try, Try" was another interesting example of that, all about a single instance of a time loop scenario from the perspective of, not the one looping, but one of the people they interact with during their "mastered the loop" phase. It might be worth giving a look too.
@@Idran
The situation is honestly quite the opposite. The potential of the user of such a device to work themselves into some very exotic problems is very high... And perhaps more importantly, what makes such a plot device interesting isn't the stakes, but the intrigue. Basically, what gets revealed by using the device, _even fully successfully._ I don't remember that twilight zone episode, but it's probably an example of that.
You do know about the whole conundrum of going back in time and trying to unalive a certain failed painter with a square mustache, right? It goes like this: If you did that, someone would simply replace him, and create a similar situation. Then you go back to try and unalive that person, and then someone would replace that person too. So maybe you go back in time and just start topping anyone that is responsible for creating the environment to begin with. Sure, you can do that, but you might come back to the future to discover that you made every bit as bad a mess trying to fix the original problem.
There was a Star Trek episode, Voyager I believe, about an alien with a time machine that was stuck in a vicious cycle of repeatedly trying to fix the past, only to fail over and over because anything they did just created new problems. Sure, you could have infinite tries to make changes, but that in itself is what makes the story interesting. The attempts themselves. What fails, or even the details of what works.
The big issue isn't the narrative, but the creativity and effort needed. I. E. the idea of Nibbler having to try many times and adjust his efforts would produce a lot of interesting failures, and a ton of potential for comedy in those failures. But that's maybe too much to think about and too much to depict without dedicating an episode or even several episodes to it.
You could in theory have an entire comedy about someone trying to fix problems with time travel, and all the interesting ways their efforts fail, and all the things they learn from those failures, and that would be the point: There's enough room in the act of being able to rewind and try again to dedicate entire episodes to such a thing. It can be somewhat hard to cram all that into a single episode or arc of a show that is about so many other things as well... Which might be part of why nibbler's involvement in the pilot episode was only hinted to: Setting up a time travel plot meant to be cashed in on later in the first episode of a show is difficult. The fact they did it at all, even as an easter egg, is really cool.
Just a side note: I loathe Undertale with a passion I cannot adequately describe here without triggering the website's sensor ship AI (and no that is not a typo, it sometimes triggers on the word sensor ship when spelled correctly). Part of it is the game's concentrated Tumblr culture... The other part of why I loathe it is the meta narrative. The game actively punishes the player for trying to see all the paths, which is breaking one of the most fundamental rules of good game design: Not to punish the player for playing the game.
S*icide Booths are actually from the horror short story collection "the king in yellow" by Robert W Chambers :)
If you do make a "Things I missed", i suggest 'If all of Old New York is buried underground, how is Fry's building on the surface? Did they relocate it and only it?
14:15 fun fact: the professor does indeed use that line again in one of the recent episodes. I would say which to be specific, but i am already in my pajamas.
Yes, I laughed extra hard when I saw it!
Farnsworth has brought back the pajamas line, which is incrediblly weird because he did it in the episode I watched right after I watched this video.
"Venusians Go Home" is a reference to a hilarious scene in Monty Pythons "Life of Brian"
Yes, Bender's zapping on Episode 1 is crucial for the whole series in how it "freed" Bender. Not sure freed is the correct word but good as any. This is the most cannon impacting zapping of all time :P
The arcade cabinet explanation made me feel so old, and I was born in 2003, so I’m well within the generation that would benefit from that explanation; for those older than me, I can imagine the feeling is much stronger.
Arcade cabinets still exist.
It’s about time!!! So happy to see your channel is live! 😁
This is like old CinemaSins, before every episode became the same sins. i love it im so glad my friend showed this to me
I absolutely love this! Can't wait for every single episode to come!
How is the building he was frozen in still above and the rest of his world underground?
Very good question!
the building is still being used 1000 years later so i assume they have done some kind of upkeep
Watching this after season 11 ep 3 and professor does say “I’m already in my pajamas.” Lol
06:34 The Suicide Booth may be taken from "The King in Yellow," by Robert W. Chambers, (1895.)
Just watched your "WAs Nibbler in the pilot" vid. Came to your channel to check it out. I like breakdown videos. I just binged a Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul breakdown channel. Let's see what cha got!
What’s the channel called?
@@randoapplebigcheese6169 Better Watch TV
@ thanks
This channel is a gem! Btw wouldn't it make sense for Leela to address Fry with ask instead of axe because she knows he's from the past?
You from austria?
Maybe. But if you met someone from the year 1024 would you speak to them in Old English? Most people wouldn't know where to begin
@@TOBAPNW_ Yeah, but you'd hire someone who knew Old English (to the best of our ability) if you expected to have to interact with a bunch of speakers of it. But in this case it's at most like the difference between EmE and Modern English, so it'd just need a few rules memorized.
I remember B&W TVs. We got a color TV only in 1977 and my aunt gave me a B&W portable TV which I used until 1995!
14:30 It's counting down in binary (11, 10, 01 instead of 3, 2, 1) as the robots can presumably innately read it, and would be included like how appliance instructions are written multilingual.
That intro audio edit is spectacular
Glad I found this tonight when I did -- first I'm hearing of Futurama coming back (to Hulu) in 2023. I'll certainly give it a try -- if it's still half as funny as it was the last time it was being produced, it will still be better than almost anything else going today.
Unfortunately I have yet to see any good reboot or sequel since 2019
14:21 They did it!!!!!
I was skeptical of the Nibbler shadow myself until I saw someone had posted the first ep WITH COMMERCIALS on UA-cam (or maybe the first 10 minutes) and there he was! Too bad Fry's shadow isn't there too. Looks like the video has been removed, or leastwise I can't find it again.
12:07 Actually, this really happened with seattle it burnt down, and they just built over the top of it and you can go underground and visit it.
I never would have caught Olde Fortran, good find!
Bravo. I love the commentary.Being late, I can see there is more to come and I hope it continues.
My personal nerd rating: Near Mint. The only fact mentioned in here I didn't already know is that Fry was originally called Curtis. Phil Hartman was one of my favourite actors, voice or otherwise. The very idea that I didn't know that tidbit and the meaning behind it shames me a little. Thank you for enlightening me, gonna binge what you've got so far, and I can't wait to see what you've got for us in the future.
I always kind of assumed that most of the heads were clones
Love the Homestar Runner t-shirt!
Also love the videos, well done!
The simultaneous countdown always bugged me too! This was the first tv show that I bought on DVD back before the "movies" and resurrection of the show. Still one of my top 5 tv shows. As a total nerd I had to go back and check for Nibbler's shadow and was blown away. Great job and I subcribed! Thank you for sharing your creativity🎖🚀🤖
Clearly Earth finally realized how dumb timezones are and adopted universal time for everything. Morning doesn't have to be 6am for everyone, we don't need multiple 6ams, morning is just whatever time it is in your part of the world when the Sun comes up. Also makes logistics and stuff alot easier between countries or especially off worlders. The big problem with that n the countdowns however is they all appear to be happening during nighttime, although perhaps that goes with Bender moving all those things to one spot!
I always play a game called "Joke or Mistake" on Futurama, like was this a reference to movies like Armageddon where it's sunset worldwide and every country can see the explosion in the sky? or was this just a run-of-the-mill mistake? Another big one I like to bring up is scenes involving the sun where you can see stars. Are we seeing the incredibly-dimmed-so-we-can-make-out-any-features textbook version of the sun, with a backdrop of stars to indicate that it's in space (which you would not be able to see if they dimmed it that much), because they think that's how space _actually looks?_ or are they just parodying every space opera ever made? It's easier in the Simpsons, because like Homer will change the channel on the radio, and his car will stop balancing precariously on the cliff's edge, and that's obviously a joke. But in a sci-fi setting... the lines between what people know and don't know, and what we're expected to accept are so blurred, it makes everything incomprehensible.
So, it's a game, what are the rules? how does scoring work? Well, it's not that kind of game. Basically me and Iggy argue about it for a while, and then we do something else.
@@frankgrimes7388 no it was this has been proven false
You're definitely thinking too hard. Its like a Montage, it shows someone learning martial arts in a 5 second segment, that doesnt mean they learned it in 5 seconds. Similar here....unless they started using UNIVERSAL TIME! So all of earth is on the same time zone
Bro, how do you only have 400 subs?? This was an amazing video and I can’t wait to see what you’ll so next!!
I can finally hear what my subconscious has been screaming at me all these years. Phil Hartman is Zap Brannigan
5:34 I had never noticed this lower robot fish. I HAD noticed the upper one, many times in fact, although the large goggle-style visor with no pupils had led me to a very different interpretation and a completely different question. Why would a fish need to be wearing an old-fashioned diving suit? It wasn't until this rewatch that I realized that the fins I had thought I saw sticking out of the suit had, in fact, been the fish directly behind it.
6:09 Since everything is recycled in the future I'm guessing the pipe probably uses it to bring waste to a recycling plant right away so it doesn't build up.
i like to think that the medieval world that pops up after new york is destroyed is the world of disenchantment... i dont know if its canon or not but its head canon at least
5:34
The space ninja video game "Warframe" has robot fish you can go cattle prod/spear fish for, and each has a decent lore reason for existing in the wild. From cleaning the water's to collecting and monitoring resources.
14:30 of all the random lines to bring back I’m glad Hulu brought back “I’m already in my pajamas” always loved that line and wished it had caught on.
"I have poor depth perception" "eye see what you did there" "I.C. Weiner"
It isn't the first time I've heard the Bender electricity personality change theory
yeah, they did bring back the pyjamas thing in the crypto episode 14:12
Well done, newly discovered and quickly subscribed. Thanks!
Thanks so much!
Solid video my dude!
3:30 It's amazing how even this early they are planning so many things.
So the counter starting at 11 would be a reference to the movie, 'Spinal Tap'; about a fictional rock/metal band. Their volume controls go to 11, because it makes their music "louder".
i wanna mention one thing that bothered me on a recent rewatch: in the scene where leela calls for police backup, her wrist-thingy (i always find it funny it never actually gets named) is on the wrong arm
Why is there a no parking zone when literally every car parks
12:24 what i am personally curious about is how the cryogenics lab survived until fry's de-freeze. unless it was placed just on the border between new york and some other american city, there's no way that cryogenics lab was in any way shape or form transferred over to new new york or that it was the only building that survived.
Also Fry was supposed to be a delivery boy, but was easily able to sign up to be a cop
i never thought of that, and he joined the army too now i think about it:-)
Tomato/tomato....cop is a delivery job. Look around for your app to send you some where. Go pick up your package(criminal) and drop them off at the jail, so a cop is an expensive delivery boy
The pilot sets up a lot of things that pay off later, along with a lot of things that they quickly abandoned. A lot like most pilots. Also, listen to the audio commentary for these early episodes if you can. They're really inciteful and entertaining, IMO.
1:53 S tier forshadowing of your most popular (and recent) video
15:13 is the Philip guy Lionel hutz and Troy McClure?
Yes
!!!!! im already in my pajamas made a reappearance in this weeks episode
I hope you do more of these. This is great.
"Venusians go home" has to be a Monty Python reference
3:30 also, in the episode where Zapp joins Planet Express, Hermes compares Doop to “The Federation from your Star Trek programs.” Why wasn’t Hermes arrested then and there?
Love the concept. This is a concept I had in mind as well. However I am no expert on what you're allowed to do on UA-cam, so I did nothing with it. I'm glad someone did though. I have definitely subscribed and look forward to your future videos. Yes if you overthink the show there are going to be a lot of continuity errors as well as things that just don't make sense. In this show particularly, I feel the continuity errors are suppose to be part of the humor of the show, not an actual error. I know in the commentaries they do highlight these continuity errors and add that they sacrificed the continuity so they can make a joke or serve the plot. I'll add in the fact that in the commentaries it feels like the people who put the show together are also doing a similar thing as this video.
I think some things are paradox free time travel are predestined while others that contradict the timeline risk the universe’s stability.
you missed a moment where benders mouth dissapers for a moment in the area with the convit heds only for a fram
The professors off hand mentioning of his "intergalactic spaceship" makes sense in context. Space flight and spaceships are that common its the equivalent of us showing someone our car.
14:14 he said it in the new one!
they actually brought back the farnsworth pajamas gag in s11 lmao
I have to believe that the Overthink Rating is out of 5, because if it were 10 ain't no way we registering just a 3.6 when talking about Fry's relatives or the inconsistency with the timeline due to Bender's Big Score... And with that I think I've just awarded myself a 4.3
I liked your theory about the time traveling president head snatcher, maybe it was the supervillain that New New York elected governor that stole all the monuments for Monument Beach
5:17 literally every vehicle parks and there are tons of no parking zones
I was born when a lot of TV was shot/broadcast in black & white especially news & current events. I don't actively remember new shows being B&W but I do remember us having a black & white TV.
Bender saying he can quit drinking is like a regular human saying he doesn't have to abstain from alcohol. We even see Bender go on a binge of non-drinking when he is most vulnerable meaning it's also a vice like alcohol abuse.
I think “I can quit anytime I want” could’ve been interpreted as sarcasm since he was later revealed to use alcohol as a fuel source.
@@mr.x2567Yeah, but it's been stated (at least once) within the series that robots can use mineral oil as a fuel source.
Gonna be a massive nerd in this, but here goes
Hubert being the last living realitve of Fry isn't off
We know one of his parents are related to fry, but they are on the near-death star, and would therefore not be considered alive
Hubert's son isn't probably listed as such, meaning Mom doesn't have him on the birth certificate, and yes a parent can be absent from a certificate, so even then she probably has lock and key on all her sons info so to keep it private in the end
Cubert isn't probably in any system at all as the professor has him in a stasis tube of sorts, so not living in a legal sense, or at least not capable of being counted
Floyd is probably 140 about, and as being homeless, is off the system. After so many years off the system and the grid, you are legally dead.
Convoluted, but the Professor being Fry's only living relative actually rings true in the most legal of sense, but yeah
OOOOH, this feels like a spiritual successor to overanalyzing avatar! love that guy.
3:15: "Why was the building that contained Fry's cryogenics pod the only one left standing?"
2:15: "First off, we know from Bender's Big Score that *Bender* is piloting this front ship."
I did a little time travel to answer your question for you :-p
Out of curiosity, was this serious inspired by Overanalyzing Avatar?
the reason Bender left the Applied Cryogenics Lab standing is because he knew Fry was in there.
Bender did believe he had a backup unit at this point, it should also be common knowledge that suicide prevents you from getting downloaded into a new body.
Knowing the Professor, he did in fact build a dedicated nephew identifying device and was just waiting for a flimsy pretense to use it.
I love this!! Please make more
2:17 I have a possible explanation for this scene (sorry if it doesn't make sense) basically in the episode "Time Keeps On Slippin'" the crew starts experiencing time skips where they skip through time and their consciousness is sent into the future and the only way this could work is if there's some way their universe is meant to progress but maybe they're able to change little things as long as big events stay the same so maybe in the pilot that wasn't Bender maybe it actually was aliens but later in "Bender's Big Score" Bender changes that and instead he destroys New York but no matter what happens New York has to be destroyed by someone in a flying sorcerer so that's my attempt at finding a way this could work
In the episode where Michelle comes to the future, he calls her boyfriend by a different name rather than Constantine. Maybe she got him to change thinking it was dumb name.
LOL I love her line, "That's a dumb name, ew!"
I think the implication was supposed to be that Constantine was just a short-term hookup with a guy hotter than Fry, she got sick of him being not much better, and found her boyfriend/fiance person.
@@ryanchase9332 My theory is that Constantine is a nickname based on his last name and that his full name is Charles Jean Paul Constantine
Number 9 guy actually first appears in the background of when Fry first steps out onto the streets in the future.
14:15 THEY DID
if bender believes he has a back up unit wouldn’t that make going to the suicide booth pointless?
That's one of those global discontinuities that bugs me and makes me wonder...well, I have a theory that I discussed in the most recent live stream. I might put out a video on it. But yes, you are correct about that.
The timer counting down down from 11 to 10 would have been followed by 01.... 3.. 2.. 1 in binary
That billboard....is...retro themed, yeah.....even if it floats.
Not even one minute in and I just got roasted to hell and back
Also, Fry says “you owe me one” and Leela hasn’t paid him back for it yet
maybe the payment was getting into a relationship with him
The Eiffel Tower goes back and forth on whether or not it hovers..
RIP Jimmy Carter
Leela's pronunciation of "ask" is proper for a resident of NYC.
My Grandma had a black and white TV until the 2000's
0:09 my mom does and this is not my mom is so old joke she was born in the 60's and remembers watching the moon landing and Woodstock but she was way too young to go to Woodstock (she was only 7)
2:00 Like the apostle Thomas putting his hands into the wounds of the risen Christ, I would not have believed had I not seen.
Very nice. Excited to see the whole series
The "Radio City Mutant Hall" joke is actually redubbed. In the original airing of the episode the guy asks to go to JFK, jr Airport, a joke about how the actual JFK airport was renamed, but then the real JFK, jr died in a plane crash so they redubbed the line as the joke was retroactively considered to be in poor taste.
Verified true! I went found the clip on UA-cam. The audio sounds authentic and the lip syncing matches the line perfectly. Thanks for the info!
Sceneometry when correcting "ask" as "aks" because it is archaic pronunciation, but the "ask" pronunciation is consistent with the spelling of the word: "and that's a CinemaSin"
President Jimmy Carter's head looks so sad in the scenes with Nixon's head in the head museum. But then he is inexplicably very happy. Well, RIP.
good video
Thanks!
The relatives part.... Hubert's parents weren't on Earth. This could be why no one else was mentioned, either.
I personally always saw the heads in the jars as clones of the long-dead historical figures. Like, I think somebody in the future found a way to clone them and restore their memories (or maybe even just install them based on what we know from historical books). And not some time travel stuff.
Very possible. Great theory!
@@Sceneometrythanks :)