Indeed, I watched gamers nexus and it's extremely confusing, thousands of bars everywhere, no percentage comparison. I watched linux tech tips and they go through the benchmark numbers in less than 50 microseconds, no analysis and you have to constantly pause the video, also no comparison with amd. This video here is by far the best.
And I'm here with GTX 1080, seeing how questionable the upgrade to RTX series is. Too bad they're holding the performance back to manipulate the prices.
@@stickydude8921 why we need more performance if the games are still for this gen? until new consoles you will not see any graphic improvement so why you need a better gpu?
2:13 2070S "upgraded" to TU104 which is actually the class of silicon all previous x70 class cards had. So, basically, Nvidia is trying to avoid admitting they screwed people over with the last version of the 2070. The previous 2070 should have been the 2060; The 2060 should have been the 2050... But then that insane price-hike would have been noticeable even to the normies.
Saved me time, but i totally agree. Cannot wait for not an apple fan to explain again to the kiddies what Nvidia is doing like he did day dot these were announced.
@@Tekagi502 Yep. I really hope AMD brings the price of Navi down soon after launch. NAAF is right about Navi, too. AMD had the perfect opportunity to grab disillusioned Nvidia fans but chose to push their prices up along side Nvidia. SMH
MunkeyChips And don't forget, because the 2070 Super uses TU104, that means it also supports SLI whereas the original 2070 does not. While it's a feature almost no one uses, it still means original 2070 owners go f*cked on performance AND features. Not to mention the 2060 Super now lowers the green team price barrier of an 8GB card by 20% ($400 from $500), and I'm sure this is why many people opted for the 2070 in the first place.
@@DrearierSpider1 Yep yep. Nvidia's marketing team is damn good at being tricky with the product stack, that's for sure. And Nvidia fans are like Apple fans: They see *shiny* and they buy; no questions.
Most honest summary and super super graphs along. New mid range card is still costing like hi end ones few years back. Hmm.. Maybe that's why I haven't buy single new GPU since 2012 or so.
@@NujabesFan-I6o_oI tbh 2060 is at 10X0 levels at the moment, so don't see a reason to not go for it at the moment. Doesn't seem like navi will change anything.
I bought a 2080 last black friday and while I'm not super happy about these new "Super" cards I don't really regret buying the 2080 since I wanted a new computer at that time.
the cost per frame chart in the video is misleading because he is calculating the cost per frame based on today's games. If he went back and benchmarked older cards like the 1070 or the Rx580 for the games that were around when those cards launched or even like a year after those cards launched we would see a different picture. Knowing the cost per frame of those cards in today's games is useless because it DOES NOT tell us what progress there has been. Had he compared the cost per frame those cards provided when they had launched vs the cost per frame of Super or Rtx cards in today's games, we may have even seen a regression or at least NO PROGRESSION AT ALL!!
Actually benchmarking older games like Rainbow Six with the 1070 or whatever older card today is still useless because games now get a lot of updates and they often change a lot in terms of performance over the years. The best thing to do would be to go back and pull the benchmarks from reviews done at the time of launch of these cards. I am a 100% sure there is no "progress" in cost per frame this generation if a proper comparison was done. Hell there may even be a regression...
There really nothing likeable or funny about this comment. Its obvious that EVGA will rename it something else...like Ultra or add something like a number.
2014: 60 Series is $199 2016: 60 Series is $250 2018: 60 Series is $350 2019: 60 Series (S) is $400 2020: 60 Series is $500 2030: 60 Series is $1999 Praise to NGreedia for all those very very reasonable prices.. I'd say FK NGreedia, even while am using 1080 since 2016, I still think they becoming worse than Apple
@@Hardwareunboxed I already skipped this Gen even while my GTX1080 barely keep up with games at 1440p-High ATM I'll wait for Navi 20 / RTX 3000 Series (Both expected in 2020) All in all, Hope in 2020 prices goes down considering Navi 20 will support Ray-Tracing (under-dog will compete well in next year I hope)
I had a GTX 570, I think I paid somewhere in the 300ish price back in 2011 (forgive me if that's wrong, it's been 8 years) I bought a used RX580 8GB For 140$. I can't with Nvidia. It's insanity.
All the other comments from other channels are cheering Nvidia on and laughing at AMD. Consumers don't care. Cool kids buy Intel and Nvidia alot like Appls
meanwhile at the super consumer friendly amd: Radeon VII-680$ 5700XT-450$ 5700-380$ after seeing this comment section maybe all the amd fanboys watch hwu thats why other channels have more positive comments about the super cards..
basically any card between 400$ and 700$ all have very similar performace, like within 15 fps of each other... they're really desperate to sell videocards...
I know that the rtx 2070super is what the 2070 should have been one year ago, but it still looks pretty good performance/price wise on the new market compared to everything else...
Just wanted to say that I’m happy that the Day 1 review coverage kerfuffle between HUB and Nvidia seems to be officially over. I know HUB is not particularly kind to RTX or DLSS, but it’s important for manufacturers to provide samples to reviewers who are willing to provide criticism in good faith. It’s good to see Nvidia make that reconciliation.
xx60 tier cards are priced at 400$ lol? Who the hell buys low end GPUs at 400$? Edit: This year is fucked. Both Nvidia and AMD cards are priced like anal waste.
@@EarFarce4 you don't need to look at navi for Amd fanbois. Look at Vega and Radeon Vii. That would do. The amount of justifications they did was funny. Lol.
give it 6 months for another refresh the RTX even MORE super. by 2021 there will be a "RTX ultra more than usual better than average mega super amazing".
@uP-Andre Checked out Navi's specs.It's again competing with the 2070 and 2070Super level cards with close to the same specs. If Nvidia was smart they'd lower the 2070 to 350 and murder Amd on the spot.
@@EarFarce4 atm, amd is more focused on dethroning intel. look back 5 years, it looked impossible. nvidia will getits turn also, cycles have 0 mercy on anyone
You have gained a fan with this review, everyone else doesn't seem very critical of the supers, yet your cost per frame (timestamp 14:49) at 1440p with the vega 56 leading backs up your view of this weak launch, thank you hardware unboxed for your honesty, I've liked, commented, subscribed and hit the bell, thank you :-)
I grabbed a used RX 580 yesterday for 120 Canadian dollars. I noticed that the 2070 Super performs like a 2080 at $200 less! These companies are milking us dry.
@@zer-ok9sn Ti would mean they have to keep selling the non TI variants. And this line is made to replace the lineup. I just wonder if they have increased the rt cores so fps is more stable with raytracing on.
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"Seeing that AMD needs to step it up a notch, or two, or three..." Great line. 😃
Very appreciative of the work involved in highlighting each card as you mention them in the graph. I know it's a lot more post production work, but it really helps me to follow along 😁 Please keep doing it!
AMD's fine wine with that Vega 56 on the same average FPS as the GTX 1080... My best purchase ever, I'd say. And that was on the back of getting an RX480 4GB that turned out to be a 8GB model xD
@@EvilTurkeySlices Phenomenal card. I've modded my bios, got my GPU clock at 1550MHz and my HBM at 1100MHz, and it's very low power consumption for about the same performance as a Vega 64, maybe even more.
Finally! Someone stated this. Everyons and I mean everyone on other tech channels are going fill fanboy cheerleading and are lusting to get them. They all got played
Wow got mine for 270€ bot are SUPER prices really, too bad there are so many people spreading the "Its as hot and loud as a jet engine" argument so they all spend their money on 375€ 2060 cards...
When realise the 'Super' cards are what the original rtx stacks should have been but we got the 2060 3gb version and the 2070 which is really a 2060 in disguise.
At the current price, navi is nearly dead. But navi is using the cheaper GDDR6 instead of HBM2 like the Vega so AMD can actually drop their price more easily.
@@CarbonPanther Facebook marketplace, I got really lucky because it was listed few mins ago when I saw it, otherwise people will definitely get it before me.
@@Dr.WhetFarts Shove your "AMD MUH POWER" prejudice somewhere else, My Vega rarely uses 190W i've given it and usually hovers around 50-150W in games on maximum settings. I'll send you my damn power bill once it comes end of the year just so you can see how annoying and wrong you are. Btw it's not too hard to put 100mV less on the card now is it?
Of all the review videos in my subscription feed I clicked on HardwareUnboxed review, because no one does authentic detailed benchmarks like HardwareUnboxed! Steve is the Benchmark King! Thanks again! :)
Thanks for the benchmarks! Wish you had done overclocks on each model though. Another channel did an easy overclock of the 2070 super and performance was basically equal to the 2080 base model.
BEST REVIEWER EVER! Im impressed how he is not like almost every other reviewer/influencer. Nvidia is so greedy and the worst thing is almost everyone is falling for this bs.
Super Steve with them reviews. Super quick to release the gtx super review. Ahead of other super reviews he needs to do. Don't super tire yourself bro have a super break.
Well at least the RTX 2080 is still faster than the 2070 super, I bought an RTX 2080 roughly 3 months ago for 789€ (that might sound expensive, but it's actually the cheapest one available where i live). 2070 super is probably gonna cost same as 2070 does so about 200€ (or 25%) less. It could have been worse, but it doesn't exactly make me happy either. Nice way to screw over your customers. I want my 200€ back, bastards. The 2070 super is what the original 2070 should have been. (but still too expensive)
@@LegendaryWizardPS I'm not sure if it would damage the RTX series in any way because they sold already alot of them, it would probbobly made a own spot in the market, somewhere between GTX 1660 and the RTX Series.
Its called 16xx series: 1650, 1660, and maybe 1670, 1680. With slightly slower performance compared to RTX series. 1660 TI is slightly slower than (not super) 2060. If same, will destroy RTX market in future.
I am so glad I returned my 2060 yesterday and I'm holding that money, adding some more and probably will get the 2070 Super. It will be relevant for quite sometime. Think about it; even a 980 Ti is still a contender, would be more if it had 8GB VRAM.
Awesome are you suggesting that am4 is *bad* because it stays on the same socket for upgradeability, while Intel’s socket constantly changes, forcing you to buy a new motherboard every time you want to upgrade?
@@NujabesFan-I6o_oI how does having the same socket while being able to use 3 to 5 generations of CPUs and upgradability bad? Dumb people just buy things repeatedly. Smart people buy for price to performance regardless of who makes it. And dumb people make statements like you did! The "socket" has nothing to do with it!
@@NujabesFan-I6o_oI okay I misunderstood to I have a x370 Asus crosshair 6 hero but I was planning on slapping a new ryzen CPU in but thought about purchasing the x570. I apologize.
@@NujabesFan-I6o_oI the high end boards have some of the most overkill nonsense I've ever seen. Some of the x570 boards could handle a fully maxed out 2990wx let alone some 16 core mainstream chip so ya I kinda agree that this time around amd High end boards are kinda bad for value(but they are the most overkill I've ever seen). The chipset is ageing yes but wow it is true to the fine wine meme soon to have everything from 2 cores 4 threads to 16 cores 32 threads.
Man that just showed me that my vega56 red dragon for 239€ was the best Price/Performance i could get , I even got the division 2 gold enition + World war Z on top of it. Steve should've included an undervolted vega56 result , since nearly everyone who buys a vega56 will undervolt it.
@@HammerLeeAcc undervolted it can boost higher with the 180 W limit, but at stock it will use lower clocks to keep the 180 W limit, Hardware Unboxed must have increase the power limit on it. Still undervolted Vega 56 is just as efficient as these cards
Hey, Steve! Wanted to thank you for all the hard work you do. Your videos are by far the best and helped me buy parts for my new PC. The change from Core i5 2300 and 750ti to 1660ti, MSI B450 Tomahawk and hopefully Ryzen 5 3600 should be SUPER noticeable (see what i did there?)). Anyways, thank you again and cheers from Russia!
I'm honestly just happy that more and more people are realizing what nvidia has been doing, in terms of holding back tech and products and power, for the sake of getting more sales and more market share.. Trying to falsely overhype shit products. And I'm glad Steve here judges the products without bias, points out true facts, and factors to consider and judge each product. Keep being you Steve!
To be honest 2060 is already selling pretty well, I don't think there is a better value RTX card than 2060, so people who want to get the most from their gaming at the lowest price all go for 2060. There is no point for Nvidia to cut the price. Those who don't have that much money will still buy 1660 Ti, or even 1660, since RX cards aren't discounted everywhere, and they lose in terms of performance and power consumption (basically, even if you save a few bucks buying RX 570 or RX 580, it won't sustain you for long, since it already drops below 60 FPS in certain titles, and it will increase your electricity bill by a few dollars, potentially nullifying the price difference depending on the region). So yeah, Nvidia feels very comfortable about sticking to high price at the moment. And to be honest most midrange gamers are okay with paying 350-400$ for the graphic card that will provide smooth performance at ultra settings on 1440p with 60+ FPS and Ray Tracing enabled, especially when more games like that will come out.
Buying the non-super cards was already incredibly stupid but there were honestly people that paid extra for the founders editions on top of the ridiculous prices? LOL. It's these idiots that are destroying the PC gaming markets...
re: RTX 2070 Super being "$700 of performance (MSRP of 2080) for only $500." But the 2080 SHOULD have been a $500 board! Just because they boosted the original price of the card to GREED record levels doesn't mean its replacement is a good deal because it costs an acceptable amount. Nvidia has done nothing here but released the same processors at appropriate prices. The xx70 should have been a 106 part, it's always been a 104. Like I said before. I hope we have some serious competition in price and performance when Intel enters the market and everyone is on a modern process. (7nm TSMC, or 10nm Intel). Given that the process drop will allow the companies to sell way more chips per manufactured waifer, or use the extra space for big performance gains, we should see some crazy things happen when nvidia make the jump and/or Intel comes in with the same tech. As an aside this is AMDs chance to take advantage of their process lead NOW.
It seems to be a 2070 v 2060 Super... 2060 Super gives pretty much the same performance as the 2070 and costs $80 less (going by the graphs and price info here)
Thank you for proper review, The "super" cards feel like what Nvidia should have originally released but just decided not to because of lack of competition. I will wait to see what navi has to offer before upgrading from my 1060.
Love the content as always Steve but have to take issue with the Radeon VII being dead in the water. Sure, in terms of gaming performance but in terms of compute it's a serious bit of kit. Wendell at L1 did some interesting content a while back. All the best mate!
Thanks for the comparative breakdowns, Steve! The fact that these aren't that much better means I'm still just waiting for the 5700 benchmarks to see how well they work and if they're good enough in the midrange, I'll look into that as a replacement to Vega 64 in a passthrough system. Shame the V64 just draws too much power. I'd buy another Radeon VII but it has abyssmal OpenGL emulator performance (PCSX2, Cemu) on Windows compared to it's vulkan/DirectX implementation performance. Otherwise, the VII is a nice card with plenty of VRAM for longevity if a game can make use of GCN for high performance.
Man I'm really getting tired of nvidia doing this making it more annoying for consumers on when to buy a card but also acting like a kid that pushes you back onto the ground after you get up
While watching this review for the 3rd time, it occured to me that the RTX 2070 seems to be doing a whole lot better against the GTX 1080, than the case was 8~9months ago when looking at your original RTX 2070 review, where often there was just 2~3fps difference. Now the differences between the RTX 2070 and GTX 1080 are much great and the RTX 2060 actually seems to have caught up with the GTX 1080. Perhaps this could be an "investigation"/comparison for a future video about how the RTX performance has improved in the last 6 months or so?
Radeon 7 looks a lot like the 1080ti in most of these games. They're around $600, have double the memory and it's an editing beast. Video editors should watch some benches and videos if they edit high res (4k+). It's the only one that can handle this with a ton of filters. Even the 2080ti gets choked in these tests. I don't have a link, but you could find them easily enough. After Navi drops, the prices will likely change as well. Yeah, for editing the R7 really can't be beat (for the price).
Just today i received in my post a sapphire pulse vega 56 which i ordered this weekend from Amazon for 273€. I was scared that i made a mistake for not waiting for the Super cards but as i see there is no biggie. Still, i will wait for the navi reviews to see if i refund the vega or not, tho seeing the price of the new navi cards i think i will stick with the vega card. Great job with the review Steve!
they are being discontinued. the prices will drop from 3rd party retailers but all the prices in this video were MSRP (the price it was first released at)
The Radeon Vii is overpriced for performance against this lineup but expect a price drop on that card. Also don't be shocked if there is a surprise AMD card expecting this.
Hi Steve, I love your videos, keep them coming! However, I need to point out a flaw in your price/performance comparison. Averaging frame rates between different games can lead to misleading or inaccurate results, because more emphasis is put on games with higher frame rates (which, ironically, are less demanding, and not reflective of current/future performance). Let me put it this way: let's say we have game 1 and game 2, GPU A and GPU B. Let's say both GPUs score 1000 FPS in game 1, and GPU A scores 10 FPS in game 2, while GPU B scores only 5 FPS in game 2. Therefore, on average, GPU A is 25% faster than GPU B, but they will have almost exactly the same price per frame, if both cost the same! But the logical conclusion is that GPU A is way better than B. So, a way to deal with this is what you already do with percentages. You should pick a baseline (the 1080ti, for instance) and set that to 100%. Then compare the average percentage rate (as you already do) and divide these percentages with the price. This will give you a much, much better and accurate picture of price/performance.
@@Hardwareunboxed if the 'probability' distributions were the same, I'd agree, but it's not the case. It's true that using more samples can lead to better accuracy, but not necessarily true. Let's say you have 100 games, 50 of which GPU A and B both score 1000 FPS, and in the other 50, GPU A scores 10 FPS, while GPU B scores 5 FPS. It would still be the case, that with 100 games, GPU A is 25% faster than B, but would have identical price per frame scores. You are just one step away from doing this the perfect way in any case! You already did the percentage comparisons between the different GPUs (though you did it relative between a bunch of them instead of picking a baseline, but it should be almost the same calculation), so, the right way to do this would be say, pick the 2060 as a baseline (100). The 2060 super would be 109 (according to your 9% faster on average), and the 2070 around 114 (I can't say exactly because I couldn't see a direct comparison between the 2060 and 2070). So what I would do is divide this number by the price, e.g., 100/330 = 0.303 for the 2060; 109/400 = 0.2725 for the 2060 super, and so on (higher is better in this case; if you want you can do price/percentage for lower is better). In this case, since the differences in frame rates between different games isn't that big, the values are pretty similar with what you calculated, but if you include games such as GS GO, together with Assassin's creed or much more demanding games, your results could end up pretty skewed.
"All this time". It's only 2.5 years old and was an extremely high end and expensive GPU, you'd hope it would still hold up otherwise there is no point in buying those enthusiast GPUs.
@@AVerySillySausage for people who are "high end" users 2,5 years on a GPU can be a while. Especially if you're used to selling off your GPU when a new one is released, which used to be more frequent before the 20series.
I was wondering if you couldn't maybe add an other performance slide to these tests. The slide I would like is an Index slide. So you can see at a quick glance Card X is 20% faster than card Y on your overall benchmark setup. I'm thinking you already have this calculated since you have an average to use for FPS/$ etc. Love your reviews, best in the net =)
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Oh dang I didn't realize today was the release date! Here I am just waiting for Ryzen 3000 😅
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I had a fuckin dream that I checked my sub box and the Ryzen 3000 reviews were out. I think I need to get other hobbies apart from PC hardware
I love your benchmark suite. Very easy to read and follow along. Best benchmarks on youtube I'd say.
Indeed, I watched gamers nexus and it's extremely confusing, thousands of bars everywhere, no percentage comparison. I watched linux tech tips and they go through the benchmark numbers in less than 50 microseconds, no analysis and you have to constantly pause the video, also no comparison with amd. This video here is by far the best.
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@@luisjalabert8366 Perfect recap, I agree.
I agree, it's one of the best of all tech channels on UA-cam. Mad props to Steve and Tim for all of their work!
the reason the 2070 super doesnt cost more is because thats the performance level it hsould have launched at and its already overpriced.
And I'm here with GTX 1080, seeing how questionable the upgrade to RTX series is. Too bad they're holding the performance back to manipulate the prices.
and it is still a bit too expensive.
the super lineup should have been the original Turing lineup and the prices would still have been terrible.
@@stickydude8921 why we need more performance if the games are still for this gen? until new consoles you will not see any graphic improvement so why you need a better gpu?
@@R4ZORLIGHT exactly. the 2070 should have been this but at 400. maybe if they wanted to gouge at launch then 450. by now it should be 350.
@@MrHope86 to maintain. A stable framerate on a 144hz monitor at least in 1440p. Even the overpriced 2080ti will struggle
Instead of lowering prices, we are getting mid-range for $400....
Cuz we agreed to pay for it. They listened. Now we suffer
$399 for GTX 1080 performance.
@Banana man so 2060 is highend, 2070 higher highend, 2080 ultra highend..??
Cry more about it, go buy pascal if your broke and want midrange.
its because of morons like TopShot that nvidia raises their prices with every new generation.
2:13 2070S "upgraded" to TU104 which is actually the class of silicon all previous x70 class cards had. So, basically, Nvidia is trying to avoid admitting they screwed people over with the last version of the 2070. The previous 2070 should have been the 2060; The 2060 should have been the 2050... But then that insane price-hike would have been noticeable even to the normies.
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Saved me time, but i totally agree. Cannot wait for not an apple fan to explain again to the kiddies what Nvidia is doing like he did day dot these were announced.
@@Tekagi502 Yep. I really hope AMD brings the price of Navi down soon after launch. NAAF is right about Navi, too. AMD had the perfect opportunity to grab disillusioned Nvidia fans but chose to push their prices up along side Nvidia. SMH
MunkeyChips And don't forget, because the 2070 Super uses TU104, that means it also supports SLI whereas the original 2070 does not. While it's a feature almost no one uses, it still means original 2070 owners go f*cked on performance AND features.
Not to mention the 2060 Super now lowers the green team price barrier of an 8GB card by 20% ($400 from $500), and I'm sure this is why many people opted for the 2070 in the first place.
@@DrearierSpider1 Yep yep. Nvidia's marketing team is damn good at being tricky with the product stack, that's for sure. And Nvidia fans are like Apple fans: They see *shiny* and they buy; no questions.
I like all these super puns Steve. Thanks for the great review as awlays
Cheers Oz :)
My man
Do you also like Xeon puns?
This guy is very nice and has an easily listening voice, #recomend!
Most honest summary and super super graphs along. New mid range card is still costing like hi end ones few years back. Hmm.. Maybe that's why I haven't buy single new GPU since 2012 or so.
Watched entire video and only thing SUPER in it was the quality content delivered by Steve and HU.
So what's next from Nvidia? Let me guess, 2070 Super Ti.
Who gives a fuck about the name
@@shadbud9198 nobody. it's just super annoying
I guess hyper!?
oviously the titan super, then the 2080 super TI that beats it,
so they follow it up with a titan super Xt :P
They will actually release 2070 Ti Super and 2080 Ti Super later 😃
If I bought an RTX 2080, I'd be SUPER pissed.
2070 Super is almost the same speed & $200 cheaper. Ouch...
@@NujabesFan-I6o_oI tbh 2060 is at 10X0 levels at the moment, so don't see a reason to not go for it at the moment. Doesn't seem like navi will change anything.
I bought a 2080 last black friday and while I'm not super happy about these new "Super" cards I don't really regret buying the 2080 since I wanted a new computer at that time.
Hardware is obsolete once installed. Such is the way of master race.
Ngreedia.
Pls buy more. So I can get more leather jackets and Ferraris. Ty.
Arief Dax it’s called business I would do the same thing to consumers to maximize on profit.
Love the cost per frame breakdown and analysis, good graphic!
the cost per frame chart in the video is misleading because he is calculating the cost per frame based on today's games. If he went back and benchmarked older cards like the 1070 or the Rx580 for the games that were around when those cards launched or even like a year after those cards launched we would see a different picture.
Knowing the cost per frame of those cards in today's games is useless because it DOES NOT tell us what progress there has been. Had he compared the cost per frame those cards provided when they had launched vs the cost per frame of Super or Rtx cards in today's games, we may have even seen a regression or at least NO PROGRESSION AT ALL!!
Actually benchmarking older games like Rainbow Six with the 1070 or whatever older card today is still useless because games now get a lot of updates and they often change a lot in terms of performance over the years. The best thing to do would be to go back and pull the benchmarks from reviews done at the time of launch of these cards. I am a 100% sure there is no "progress" in cost per frame this generation if a proper comparison was done. Hell there may even be a regression...
EVGA has to bring the RTX 2080 Super Super Superclocked (SSC) Kaioken x20
Rtx 2080 Super Brolli Maximum edition
Rtx 2080 Super supersuperclocked loool.
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There really nothing likeable or funny about this comment.
Its obvious that EVGA will rename it something else...like Ultra or add something like a number.
That's almost more supers than Steve said in the video
2014: 60 Series is $199
2016: 60 Series is $250
2018: 60 Series is $350
2019: 60 Series (S) is $400
2020: 60 Series is $500
2030: 60 Series is $1999
Praise to NGreedia for all those very very reasonable prices..
I'd say FK NGreedia, even while am using 1080 since 2016, I still think they becoming worse than Apple
Stop buying them then 😋
@@Hardwareunboxed
I already skipped this Gen even while my GTX1080 barely keep up with games at 1440p-High ATM
I'll wait for Navi 20 / RTX 3000 Series (Both expected in 2020)
All in all, Hope in 2020 prices goes down considering Navi 20 will support Ray-Tracing (under-dog will compete well in next year I hope)
I had a GTX 570, I think I paid somewhere in the 300ish price back in 2011 (forgive me if that's wrong, it's been 8 years) I bought a used RX580 8GB For 140$. I can't with Nvidia. It's insanity.
All the other comments from other channels are cheering Nvidia on and laughing at AMD. Consumers don't care. Cool kids buy Intel and Nvidia alot like Appls
meanwhile at the super consumer friendly amd:
Radeon VII-680$
5700XT-450$
5700-380$
after seeing this comment section maybe all the amd fanboys watch hwu thats why other channels have more positive comments about the super cards..
Thanks for squeezing in this super inconvenient, barely easy review amidst the AMD testing. 👍
I understood that reference!
Best comment ever.
You could say the timing on this is tight.
@@backupplan6058 Whoops!
You KNOW that out of all the tech channels' videos on super cards i chose to watch this one
Same here.
Eh, I'm watching mostly all of them.
@@SelecaoOfMidas Man of culture I see.
@@SelecaoOfMidas usually they all have the same opinion on new gpus but i find hardware unboxed to be the most entertaining
Thank you for including the GTX 1070 and RX 590 as they are still relevant for many people.
basically any card between 400$ and 700$ all have very similar performace, like within 15 fps of each other... they're really desperate to sell videocards...
@@riven4121 or 1080p@144 fps at ultra settings
@KarlKlaus vonS i bet youll still be fine with a 970 for cyberpunk, just dont expect ultra graphics.
@KarlKlaus vonS a used 1080 would be a great option.
@KarlKlaus vonS vega 56 seems like the best option rn tbh
KarlKlaus vonS Where?
This is by far the most underwhelming graphics card generation i've ever seen
Just wait it's going to get worse.
I know that the rtx 2070super is what the 2070 should have been one year ago, but it still looks pretty good performance/price wise on the new market compared to everything else...
@@combatantezoteric2965 Navi 5700xt is better at 50$ less.
Every launch since GTX 680 release has been underwhelming due to the lack of competition from AMD.(7970 was released in december of 2011).
Honestly the 10XX series was just amazing... Until we get 4k 144hz, all the card will be meh
Just wanted to say that I’m happy that the Day 1 review coverage kerfuffle between HUB and Nvidia seems to be officially over.
I know HUB is not particularly kind to RTX or DLSS, but it’s important for manufacturers to provide samples to reviewers who are willing to provide criticism in good faith.
It’s good to see Nvidia make that reconciliation.
xx60 tier cards are priced at 400$ lol?
Who the hell buys low end GPUs at 400$?
Edit: This year is fucked. Both Nvidia and AMD cards are priced like anal waste.
Nvidia Fanbois
@@oogaxboogaloo *looks at amd Navi prices* AMD fanbois too soon.
Low end lol
@@EarFarce4 you don't need to look at navi for Amd fanbois. Look at Vega and Radeon Vii. That would do. The amount of justifications they did was funny. Lol.
you think 2060 is a low end?
are you nuts?
Ouch, hurts to see my GTX 1070 so far at the bottom!
3 years old )
My 1060 isn't even on the list
ah for 1440p 60fps is still awesome
I know... my 1070 ti is getting there as well.....
It's still a good card.
hey hey! Awesome! I like that X570 MB back in the background during the B roll
give it 6 months for another refresh the RTX even MORE super.
by 2021 there will be a "RTX ultra more than usual better than average mega super amazing".
And with a price bump aswell, those leather jackets are expensive man.
@uP-Andre Checked out Navi's specs.It's again competing with the 2070 and 2070Super level cards with close to the same specs.
If Nvidia was smart they'd lower the 2070 to 350 and murder Amd on the spot.
@@BombaJead haha they really are, cant show up on stage without one, what would people think
@@EarFarce4 atm, amd is more focused on dethroning intel. look back 5 years, it looked impossible. nvidia will getits turn also, cycles have 0 mercy on anyone
and it would be named "RTX Super Duper"
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Same
You have gained a fan with this review, everyone else doesn't seem very critical of the supers, yet your cost per frame (timestamp 14:49) at 1440p with the vega 56 leading backs up your view of this weak launch, thank you hardware unboxed for your honesty, I've liked, commented, subscribed and hit the bell, thank you :-)
I grabbed a used RX 580 yesterday for 120 Canadian dollars.
I noticed that the 2070 Super performs like a 2080 at $200 less! These companies are milking us dry.
Wrex Nvidia controls the GPU market and it’s hurting consumers
that's the tech world for you
New tech that's cheaper will outperform the latest tech in seconds
Been waiting on this. Thank you.
This video was *super* informative Steve,you may sleep now.
Thanks mate, wish I could ;)
Please, lets just call these the S models instead of Super.
RTX 2070s is way better.
Stiekeme Henk Yeah, let's Apple those bastards.
and then we can call them "iphone 10 super max"
But EVGA would lose a great opportunity. Like Rtx 2060 super super superclocked
Or Ti
@@zer-ok9sn Ti would mean they have to keep selling the non TI variants. And this line is made to replace the lineup.
I just wonder if they have increased the rt cores so fps is more stable with raytracing on.
"Seeing that AMD needs to step it up a notch, or two, or three..." Great line. 😃
Very appreciative of the work involved in highlighting each card as you mention them in the graph. I know it's a lot more post production work, but it really helps me to follow along 😁 Please keep doing it!
AMD's fine wine with that Vega 56 on the same average FPS as the GTX 1080... My best purchase ever, I'd say. And that was on the back of getting an RX480 4GB that turned out to be a 8GB model xD
It beats the 2070 in Forza as well.
@@EvilTurkeySlices Phenomenal card. I've modded my bios, got my GPU clock at 1550MHz and my HBM at 1100MHz, and it's very low power consumption for about the same performance as a Vega 64, maybe even more.
thanks steve been waiting for you to deliver as you always do much love
Been refreshing like an absolute madman for this one! Gotta watch Steve's video first, then Gamers Nexus, then eveyrone else! Much love
Pisses me off that the new RTX cards are $400 starting now. Makes a used GTX 1080 look like a steal though at ~$300.
Finally! Someone stated this. Everyons and I mean everyone on other tech channels are going fill fanboy cheerleading and are lusting to get them. They all got played
The notifications for both your review and Gamers Nexus' came at the same time ngl.
Watch them at the same time.
@@Hardwareunboxed I like this response.
@@Hardwareunboxed
My gtx 980ti is not SUPER enough ... So i need to watch yours first.
2060S on GN has +20% perf to 2060, so let review wars begin!!!
@@Hardwareunboxed challenge accepted.
Thank you for benchmarks with old video cards - not many reviews with them included and they are SUPER helpful when figuring out if I should upgrade!
Just makes the Vega 56 more compelling, I recently got one for £215.
Wow got mine for 270€ bot are SUPER prices really, too bad there are so many people spreading the "Its as hot and loud as a jet engine" argument so they all spend their money on 375€ 2060 cards...
Great video as always.
Will be pairing Vega 56 + Ryzen 3600 in a build for a friend next week. Great value.
When realise the 'Super' cards are what the original rtx stacks should have been but we got the 2060 3gb version and the 2070 which is really a 2060 in disguise.
Love all the ways you tackle these New GPUs keep up the amazing work!
Let's wait for NAVI.
navi is DOA after this rtx 2070 super
At the current price, navi is nearly dead. But navi is using the cheaper GDDR6 instead of HBM2 like the Vega so AMD can actually drop their price more easily.
@@gb34a Let's see I mean people like us need better tech at low prices.
@@KRawatXP2003 I agree
really like the way you present your data! thanks!!
10-15~ fps difference is barely noticeable.
Still happy with my Vega 64, got it for $280 😉
Holy hell. where did you do that?
and you're using 200 bucks a year to power it
@@CarbonPanther Facebook marketplace, I got really lucky because it was listed few mins ago when I saw it, otherwise people will definitely get it before me.
@@Dr.WhetFarts Is that supposed to be a joke??
@@Dr.WhetFarts Shove your "AMD MUH POWER" prejudice somewhere else, My Vega rarely uses 190W i've given it and usually hovers around 50-150W in games on maximum settings.
I'll send you my damn power bill once it comes end of the year just so you can see how annoying and wrong you are.
Btw it's not too hard to put 100mV less on the card now is it?
Of all the review videos in my subscription feed I clicked on HardwareUnboxed review, because no one does authentic detailed benchmarks like HardwareUnboxed! Steve is the Benchmark King! Thanks again! :)
7:25 or so.
The alternative to Super is Ti.
You could just call them 2060Ti and 2070Ti.
2080Super you could call 2080MiniTi or 2080TiMini.😄
I hoped it would be return to gts series lol
Thanks for the benchmarks! Wish you had done overclocks on each model though. Another channel did an easy overclock of the 2070 super and performance was basically equal to the 2080 base model.
There is an overclocking section.
Please, do the test of Vega 56 Undervolted and OC against 2060 super. FPS and power consumption.
For real. Needs to be amd friendly games so it’s not biased because the majority of these games seem to favor Nvidia drivers heavily.
His Vega 56 won't undervolt even a little bit without crashing
@@mr.tomatohead5648 why so?
@@ABoyNamedAsTy Under-volting isn't something that is equally successful on all parts.
Great video. Pretty much the best to cover the Super series in youtube (I have seen them all).
I would shorten them to 20x0 S. It is ridiculous how all reviews mention SUPER gazillion times
BEST REVIEWER EVER! Im impressed how he is not like almost every other reviewer/influencer. Nvidia is so greedy and the worst thing is almost everyone is falling for this bs.
Thank you for the highlighted data. It makes it easier to follow the results.
Your video has priority over videos from other tech channels. Keep up the great work.
Super Steve with them reviews. Super quick to release the gtx super review. Ahead of other super reviews he needs to do. Don't super tire yourself bro have a super break.
RIP RTX non super buyers who bought the 2060, 2070 and 2080. Nvidia did yall good so soon
Besides the vram, the difference betweem 2060 and its super variant isn't that big. 2070 buyer though, RIP.
Im just waiting for Radeon Rx Navi results. Also seems there may be 5750 versions as trademarked my SAPPHIRE. Gonna be an interesting year I guess
@@oogaxboogaloo I'd have to assume that'd be a refresh series. Not unless AMD's gonna launch 6 tiers, lol.
Im not to butthurt with my 2060 given the price jump.
Well at least the RTX 2080 is still faster than the 2070 super, I bought an RTX 2080 roughly 3 months ago for 789€ (that might sound expensive, but it's actually the cheapest one available where i live). 2070 super is probably gonna cost same as 2070 does so about 200€ (or 25%) less. It could have been worse, but it doesn't exactly make me happy either. Nice way to screw over your customers. I want my 200€ back, bastards.
The 2070 super is what the original 2070 should have been. (but still too expensive)
YOUR channel make the BEST review on the web... Keep up the good job
It would make more sense if they made cheaper versions of GTX 2070, 2060 without those Tensor cores.
That would destroy their RTX cards, which they're trying to shove down everyone's throats. I was really excited for something like a GTX 1170
@@LegendaryWizardPS I'm not sure if it would damage the RTX series in any way because they sold already alot of them, it would probbobly made a own spot in the market, somewhere between GTX 1660 and the RTX Series.
Its called 16xx series: 1650, 1660, and maybe 1670, 1680. With slightly slower performance compared to RTX series.
1660 TI is slightly slower than (not super) 2060. If same, will destroy RTX market in future.
take the RT cores but keep the tensor. DLSS is pretty useful.
@@FaridRudiansyah They're not going to release a 1670 or 1680. That would render their RTX cards obsolete, because barely anyone will buy them.
I am so glad I returned my 2060 yesterday and I'm holding that money, adding some more and probably will get the 2070 Super. It will be relevant for quite sometime. Think about it; even a 980 Ti is still a contender, would be more if it had 8GB VRAM.
Well look at that x570 creation motherboard in the background woohoo!
Awesome are you suggesting that am4 is *bad* because it stays on the same socket for upgradeability, while Intel’s socket constantly changes, forcing you to buy a new motherboard every time you want to upgrade?
@@NujabesFan-I6o_oI how does having the same socket while being able to use 3 to 5 generations of CPUs and upgradability bad? Dumb people just buy things repeatedly. Smart people buy for price to performance regardless of who makes it. And dumb people make statements like you did! The "socket" has nothing to do with it!
Awesome ok i must have understood your statement incorrectly
@@NujabesFan-I6o_oI okay I misunderstood to I have a x370 Asus crosshair 6 hero but I was planning on slapping a new ryzen CPU in but thought about purchasing the x570. I apologize.
@@NujabesFan-I6o_oI the high end boards have some of the most overkill nonsense I've ever seen. Some of the x570 boards could handle a fully maxed out 2990wx let alone some 16 core mainstream chip so ya I kinda agree that this time around amd High end boards are kinda bad for value(but they are the most overkill I've ever seen). The chipset is ageing yes but wow it is true to the fine wine meme soon to have everything from 2 cores 4 threads to 16 cores 32 threads.
Man that just showed me that my vega56 red dragon for 239€ was the best Price/Performance i could get , I even got the division 2 gold enition + World war Z on top of it. Steve should've included an undervolted vega56 result , since nearly everyone who buys a vega56 will undervolt it.
Nice, what's ur under volt?
Your Vega 56 uses 237 watts? I really don't understand, at stock it never goes above the 180 watt power limit
@Shadowsky719 uv?
@@wile123456 undervolted.
@@HammerLeeAcc undervolted it can boost higher with the 180 W limit, but at stock it will use lower clocks to keep the 180 W limit, Hardware Unboxed must have increase the power limit on it.
Still undervolted Vega 56 is just as efficient as these cards
Hey, Steve! Wanted to thank you for all the hard work you do. Your videos are by far the best and helped me buy parts for my new PC. The change from Core i5 2300 and 750ti to 1660ti, MSI B450 Tomahawk and hopefully Ryzen 5 3600 should be SUPER noticeable (see what i did there?)). Anyways, thank you again and cheers from Russia!
I'm honestly just happy that more and more people are realizing what nvidia has been doing, in terms of holding back tech and products and power, for the sake of getting more sales and more market share.. Trying to falsely overhype shit products. And I'm glad Steve here judges the products without bias, points out true facts, and factors to consider and judge each product. Keep being you Steve!
Interesting to see how close vega 56 and the 1080 are now.
It's taken 2 years to not be as good as a 3 year-old card. I don't see what's interesting about that
@@spawniscariot9756 cool. It's regularly in front of the 1080 in newer titles but I guess beating it isn't matching it so you're right.
@@spawniscariot9756 sorry I meant to say cool 👍🏾
So happy with my 2080 purchase last week from the Umart sale. They must have seen these gpu’s comming and wanted to get rid of some stock
Nvidia missed a great opportunity in slotting the 2060 Super at the $350 price point. I think the 2060 would sell like hotcakes at $300 but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Nvidia missed a great opportunity in slotting the 2060 Super at the $300 price point. I think the 2060 would sell like hotcakes at $250 but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
To be honest 2060 is already selling pretty well, I don't think there is a better value RTX card than 2060, so people who want to get the most from their gaming at the lowest price all go for 2060. There is no point for Nvidia to cut the price. Those who don't have that much money will still buy 1660 Ti, or even 1660, since RX cards aren't discounted everywhere, and they lose in terms of performance and power consumption (basically, even if you save a few bucks buying RX 570 or RX 580, it won't sustain you for long, since it already drops below 60 FPS in certain titles, and it will increase your electricity bill by a few dollars, potentially nullifying the price difference depending on the region).
So yeah, Nvidia feels very comfortable about sticking to high price at the moment. And to be honest most midrange gamers are okay with paying 350-400$ for the graphic card that will provide smooth performance at ultra settings on 1440p with 60+ FPS and Ray Tracing enabled, especially when more games like that will come out.
Are these gpus even worth the upgrade from a 1070ti??
Nope ... stick to it till it drops dead ... everything else is a lie.
Only from 5 to 15 more fps than that is garbage gains with these RtX +S
Hey man love your video - Great metrics and well explained!
"Here we have another racing simulator in forza horizon 4"
*coughs in assetto corsa*
Why benchmark a game that nobody owns ? F1 already is unnecessary
Appreciate the current selling price graph. Lots of reviewers seem to shy from it for whatever reason, tending to only use MSRP
Buying the non-super cards was already incredibly stupid but there were honestly people that paid extra for the founders editions on top of the ridiculous prices? LOL.
It's these idiots that are destroying the PC gaming markets...
re: RTX 2070 Super being "$700 of performance (MSRP of 2080) for only $500."
But the 2080 SHOULD have been a $500 board! Just because they boosted the original price of the card to GREED record levels doesn't mean its replacement is a good deal because it costs an acceptable amount.
Nvidia has done nothing here but released the same processors at appropriate prices. The xx70 should have been a 106 part, it's always been a 104.
Like I said before. I hope we have some serious competition in price and performance when Intel enters the market and everyone is on a modern process. (7nm TSMC, or 10nm Intel). Given that the process drop will allow the companies to sell way more chips per manufactured waifer, or use the extra space for big performance gains, we should see some crazy things happen when nvidia make the jump and/or Intel comes in with the same tech. As an aside this is AMDs chance to take advantage of their process lead NOW.
Conclusion: 2060 Super seems shit for its price. 2070 Super seems real good for its price. Would still go for Vega 56 any day though!
It seems to be a 2070 v 2060 Super... 2060 Super gives pretty much the same performance as the 2070 and costs $80 less (going by the graphs and price info here)
Thank you for proper review, The "super" cards feel like what Nvidia should have originally released but just decided not to because of lack of competition. I will wait to see what navi has to offer before upgrading from my 1060.
Love the content as always Steve but have to take issue with the Radeon VII being dead in the water. Sure, in terms of gaming performance but in terms of compute it's a serious bit of kit. Wendell at L1 did some interesting content a while back. All the best mate!
This is a gaming focused channel.
Nice. Cant wait to see what the 2080ti super can do
Forgot to ask Steve, what did you do to get back on nVidias Reviewer List?
Probably signed another NDA to get back on it.
"Still, it does one-punch knock out the Radeon VII", no steve, no! I think the Radeon VII did that to itself :D
How stable are the new cards with heavy Ray Tracing like the one seen in Metro?
Thanks for the comparative breakdowns, Steve! The fact that these aren't that much better means I'm still just waiting for the 5700 benchmarks to see how well they work and if they're good enough in the midrange, I'll look into that as a replacement to Vega 64 in a passthrough system. Shame the V64 just draws too much power. I'd buy another Radeon VII but it has abyssmal OpenGL emulator performance (PCSX2, Cemu) on Windows compared to it's vulkan/DirectX implementation performance. Otherwise, the VII is a nice card with plenty of VRAM for longevity if a game can make use of GCN for high performance.
Man I'm really getting tired of nvidia doing this making it more annoying for consumers on when to buy a card but also acting like a kid that pushes you back onto the ground after you get up
Well done chart! You've earned yourself a subscriber!!
The 2070 super is what the standard card should have been. The 2060 super should have been named 2060 ti.
While watching this review for the 3rd time, it occured to me that the RTX 2070 seems to be doing a whole lot better against the GTX 1080, than the case was 8~9months ago when looking at your original RTX 2070 review, where often there was just 2~3fps difference. Now the differences between the RTX 2070 and GTX 1080 are much great and the RTX 2060 actually seems to have caught up with the GTX 1080. Perhaps this could be an "investigation"/comparison for a future video about how the RTX performance has improved in the last 6 months or so?
I think the real story is pickup a Vega 56 or 64 for under 300!
Where I live Vega 56 goes for over 400 and Vega 64 goes for over 500.
that little tease, ignoring navi, that we have on the test bench now, but are on nda, I love it
7:26 "I am aware that I've said super way too many times"
Just wait till they have Super Max-Qs and you're reading out _those_ benchmarks aahaahaa
Radeon 7 looks a lot like the 1080ti in most of these games. They're around $600, have double the memory and it's an editing beast. Video editors should watch some benches and videos if they edit high res (4k+). It's the only one that can handle this with a ton of filters. Even the 2080ti gets choked in these tests. I don't have a link, but you could find them easily enough. After Navi drops, the prices will likely change as well. Yeah, for editing the R7 really can't be beat (for the price).
12:25, I'm quite furious that he didn't reference Chernobyl's "not great, not terrible" meme. >.
400-500 bucks for mid range GPUs....
What a fucking disgrace. Sad times for consumers.
That's quite a breakdown, great work
I never cared about the super nvidia gpus. Im waiting for ryzen 3000
Has to be the dumbest comment ever.
I will enjoy my Ryzen 2000 that was bought marked down, who needs that 15% IPC for 100USD more. We will see the benches soon :)
Just today i received in my post a sapphire pulse vega 56 which i ordered this weekend from Amazon for 273€. I was scared that i made a mistake for not waiting for the Super cards but as i see there is no biggie. Still, i will wait for the navi reviews to see if i refund the vega or not, tho seeing the price of the new navi cards i think i will stick with the vega card. Great job with the review Steve!
How silly we were. Expecting vanilla cards to drop in price... Lolololololol
they are being discontinued. the prices will drop from 3rd party retailers but all the prices in this video were MSRP (the price it was first released at)
Thanks for the benchmark steven. great work as always (y)
I'd prefer a Radeon 7 over these. I wouldn't buy anything until Navi is out, benchmarks are known, and the prices as well. Could be wasting money.
The Radeon Vii is overpriced for performance against this lineup but expect a price drop on that card. Also don't be shocked if there is a surprise AMD card expecting this.
Hi Steve, I love your videos, keep them coming! However, I need to point out a flaw in your price/performance comparison. Averaging frame rates between different games can lead to misleading or inaccurate results, because more emphasis is put on games with higher frame rates (which, ironically, are less demanding, and not reflective of current/future performance). Let me put it this way: let's say we have game 1 and game 2, GPU A and GPU B. Let's say both GPUs score 1000 FPS in game 1, and GPU A scores 10 FPS in game 2, while GPU B scores only 5 FPS in game 2. Therefore, on average, GPU A is 25% faster than GPU B, but they will have almost exactly the same price per frame, if both cost the same! But the logical conclusion is that GPU A is way better than B.
So, a way to deal with this is what you already do with percentages. You should pick a baseline (the 1080ti, for instance) and set that to 100%. Then compare the average percentage rate (as you already do) and divide these percentages with the price. This will give you a much, much better and accurate picture of price/performance.
Isn't this why you use a dozen samples?
@@Hardwareunboxed if the 'probability' distributions were the same, I'd agree, but it's not the case. It's true that using more samples can lead to better accuracy, but not necessarily true. Let's say you have 100 games, 50 of which GPU A and B both score 1000 FPS, and in the other 50, GPU A scores 10 FPS, while GPU B scores 5 FPS. It would still be the case, that with 100 games, GPU A is 25% faster than B, but would have identical price per frame scores. You are just one step away from doing this the perfect way in any case!
You already did the percentage comparisons between the different GPUs (though you did it relative between a bunch of them instead of picking a baseline, but it should be almost the same calculation), so, the right way to do this would be say, pick the 2060 as a baseline (100). The 2060 super would be 109 (according to your 9% faster on average), and the 2070 around 114 (I can't say exactly because I couldn't see a direct comparison between the 2060 and 2070). So what I would do is divide this number by the price, e.g., 100/330 = 0.303 for the 2060; 109/400 = 0.2725 for the 2060 super, and so on (higher is better in this case; if you want you can do price/percentage for lower is better). In this case, since the differences in frame rates between different games isn't that big, the values are pretty similar with what you calculated, but if you include games such as GS GO, together with Assassin's creed or much more demanding games, your results could end up pretty skewed.
@@Hardwareunboxed TL;DR version, what you do puts more emphasis on games with higher average FPS, while I believe all games should have equal weight.
Gotta say, I'm impressed with the 1080 ti...after all this time, still holding its own.
"All this time". It's only 2.5 years old and was an extremely high end and expensive GPU, you'd hope it would still hold up otherwise there is no point in buying those enthusiast GPUs.
@@AVerySillySausage for people who are "high end" users 2,5 years on a GPU can be a while. Especially if you're used to selling off your GPU when a new one is released, which used to be more frequent before the 20series.
I was wondering if you couldn't maybe add an other performance slide to these tests. The slide I would like is an Index slide. So you can see at a quick glance Card X is 20% faster than card Y on your overall benchmark setup. I'm thinking you already have this calculated since you have an average to use for FPS/$ etc. Love your reviews, best in the net =)
*RTX 2060 SUPER*
my RTX 2060: _"Excuse me? WTF!?"_
Great analasys again, best channel yet!