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  • @pjculbertson55
    @pjculbertson55 7 років тому +50

    I am quickly coming to the realization that the old ways we turned away from were more in keeping with a calmer more peaceful lifestyle where work was the reward and we all slept better at night.

  • @GenerationX66
    @GenerationX66 9 років тому +14

    "Take time for all things: great haste makes great waste."
    A Benjamin Franklin Quote.

  • @PyroDanUK
    @PyroDanUK 9 років тому +63

    I had a feeling you were going to give the power tools a negative view in this part, especially the cordless, I use large augers in a cordless drill on a regular basis I have to say your example is bit flawed. You are using the wrong tool for the job, that 2 speed Dewalt was never intended to be abused in such a way.
    Had that been the 3 speed version set on its lowest speed it likely wouldn't have been an issue, I know for sure that my DCD985 can do it. Even my small 12V brush-less Milwaukee outperforms the cordless drill that you used in this video.
    Just as with hand tools, augers perform best used with low speed hi torque power tools. Even the Milwaukee corded drill you used isn't quite the right tool. The right tool would have been something like the Milwaukee Hole Hawg at 300rpm or the Metabo B32/3 (I love this drill, though i'm not sure if this is available in the US). I'm sure there are many more suitable drills available.
    I do agree though on the fact that the old augers are far better than the new.

    • @102819921
      @102819921 9 років тому +10

      PyroDanUK he's making a point of old vs new and i think its not a fair fight. i think he wanted old to win, and made a biased test.

    • @thatguyb3rt
      @thatguyb3rt 9 років тому +4

      GrizzlyBear Warrior He put quite a bit of his weight into it from what it looks like, If he put the drill in a lower gear and let the bit do the work it would have been a totally different story. That's why the bit has that screw head on it, to pull itself through the wood.

    • @dutchcourage7312
      @dutchcourage7312 9 років тому +8

      cjwolfer The same thing might well apply to the shoulder or belly drill, I noticed how he put his weight on it, making it actually harder, as that added pressure is added friction, which requires added power to be overcome. Let the tool do the work...
      I also somewhat think that the should have sharpened the bit he used for the power test, it didn't look all that great to begin with. And maintenance of your tools, so you start with it in top notch condition, has a great impact on the end result; that is why one should maintain them properly ...
      But all in all I do agree with the end statement. There is a trade off for speed, it is a lot of noise and a bit of added risk in having less control; you win about 20sec with that. Now sure, if your job is to drill holes all day long, I can see how that starts to pay off. If like mentioned you are in it for your own enjoyment as well on the other hand.
      And, yes, a lot of tools (make that items) these days are not made with the same quality as before. Capitalism by definition amounts to the lowest accepted quality for the highest accepted price (including actions of the competition). It is why so many Companies try to make a branded platform on which they have a monopoly, no competition means the highest possible profit margin for the lowest quality product ... and the weird thing is, people actually buy into that ... and feel they air a bit of that 'economic success' of said company when they have one of their products, always makes me giggle a little inside (until I realize that is the level of today's civilization, less funny that way) ...
      But anyways, old vintage tools, lovely quality and a joy to work with given they are well maintained and you know how to work with them :)

    • @wrightshot1
      @wrightshot1 9 років тому +1

      PyroDanUK Yes you are right. If that dewalt had a fresh battery one bought this decade it would turn the bit quite well. you can still buy good auger bits with the edge cutter.

    • @ReadandWite
      @ReadandWite 9 років тому

      PyroDanUK I also have a Metabo but the Bh E24 Contact. The best ever, includes auto cutout for water and/or electricity. Takes all drill types although designed for SBS. No material it hasn't been through including reinforced concrete. I have a Stanley brace as well but have not had a need to use it for quite some years, always was an issue with getting and keeping the bit tight in the brace. Dad's old chest/shoulder drill was much more comfortable to use but used usually in metal. The shoulder brace part broke off and I ain't no welder so it got buzzed. Shame but the Metabo has replaced everything bar for awkward small inaccessible places where I use the Bosch iXO (the torque is fantastic). Bits are the key though. You can't buy cheap bits, regardless of drill and expect quality work.

  • @DavidKirtley
    @DavidKirtley 9 років тому +3

    I use both for different reasons but unless you are working on a production line or trying to run wire or pipe, the actual time for the bit to get into the wood and cut to the bottom of the hole is a small percentage. Use in real work isn't normally sitting in one place punching holes. Much more time is spent planning, moving to new location, marking holes, and cleanup (not even counting time getting electric to a location.) Add any complication such as working on a ladder, the brace and bit can come out way ahead.

  • @wrightshot1
    @wrightshot1 9 років тому +8

    The bit you used with the electric drill the first time is a utility bit. You can buy finish auger bits for power drills. Use the right tool for job. Don't use a chainsaw to cut trim.

  • @xNELVKALEN
    @xNELVKALEN 8 років тому +12

    You even said it yourself that your drilled a fast hole for the drill. There honestly shouldn't be much of a difference if any between manual and electric as long as you use the same bit. The only change is the method of turning the bit. If you full throttle the drill and get a bad hole, but you carefully hand crank one, the difference is night and day, but if you throttle control your drill the way you would with a crank, the gap is quite narrow.

    • @DeniseSkidmore
      @DeniseSkidmore 8 років тому +1

      +Kalen Mcbride Also the electric drill had an inferior bit with no cutters.

  • @mjallenuk
    @mjallenuk 9 років тому +1

    That was an utter pleasure to watch ... not only was it educational and quite sensible but you added a healthy dash of respectable and heartfelt family ethics ... bravo chap :o)

  • @joshuawiley7200
    @joshuawiley7200 8 років тому

    Hey Cody,Another aspect of this that I feel is worth mentioning:When it is as easy as pulling a trigger and waiting for a hole you won't care about the sharpness of the bit. When you have to drill it yourself with a brace, you definitely care. a sharp bit will make a cleaner hole.There was a situation with my granddad when I was young where he was helping someone replace a starter on their car. Once the starter was replaced it came time to start the vehicle. The person who brought it to him hopped in and cranked on the starter for a good 10 seconds before it barely chugged to life. He said to them "you didn't NEED a starter, you NEED a carburetor adjustment. They looked puzzled. Of coarse I in my youth didn't get it either at the time. I asked him later about it and he took me to the tractor. And handed me the hand crank handle. After letting me wear myself out trying to start it, he adjusted the mixture and opened the petcocks. He flipped it over maybe twice and it fired right up. He said "see boy, when it's not as easy as turning a key, the things you value as important kinda change huh?" I've been able to apply that wisdom to many situations in life when I feel kinda hopeless. I wonder what we are missing with the belly drill... I bet it was fun to try, even if it was kind of unpleasant...Regards, Josh

  • @RamSkirata
    @RamSkirata 9 років тому +4

    there is a good model used in Project management that, in my opinion, also applies to this situation very well: Its a triangle wit the words Price, Quality and Time on each of the peaks. That means you can either do it 100 % cheap, fast or good. Also you can do the job cheap and fast, its never gonna be good. You can do it fast and of good quality. But thats expensive, or you can do ist cheap and with good quality, but you gonna sit there all day long.

  • @cottonmouth71
    @cottonmouth71 9 років тому

    great video ....i have a ton of tools like this passes down from my great grand father and i relish the chance i get to use them and they ALWAYS surprise me as to just how well they do work....great videos keep em comin

  • @markharris5771
    @markharris5771 5 років тому

    I’ve only recently taken up woodworking, and as I have some pretty serious upper body difficulties I went out and bought all the usual power tools. However, I’m finding that I more and more want to learn how to use hand tools. I'm not running a production line and I’m not even a weekend warrior, I can't manage a full weekend even with power tools. I’m a two mornings a week warrior, but I'm finding the more I do with hand tools the more I smile at what I’ve achieved slowly over 3 or 4 hours rather than what I've messed up in seconds. I’ll still use my power tools when it’s prudent, like ripping large pieces of timber, but I’m going to use hand tools whenever practicality allows. I want to be a creator working with my hands, not a destroyer working with electrical components. I bought myself a nice brace and three bits today, and thanks to channels like yours and especially Wood by Wright I knew what I was looking for. I can't go to evening classes because of my health, and there seems to be very few woodworking around where I live in North West England. So UA-cam has very much been my teacher and people have been extremely helpful to me both the video makers and other commenters.

  • @RKHarm24
    @RKHarm24 9 років тому +1

    Very good and thought out analogy. Great test and description on woodworking and wood craftsmanship. The old may be slow, but still some great moves. Thanks Cody

  • @erxkeel
    @erxkeel 9 років тому +1

    I love your tool collection, and your shop. I am jelly for certain!

  • @TheMrSeamus
    @TheMrSeamus 9 років тому +19

    nice comparison video but i have to say i was disappointed with the way you handled the electric tools, you can get a perfectly clean cut with any electric tool and standard bit if you take care. the way i seen you handle this was with pure ignorance, like a man who knew no better. take time starting instead of applying huge down force. there wasn't as much down force being applied to the other hand tools. and as for the flat battery i wouldn't see it as such a negative. and i was disappointed to see you not even trying to hold the drill perpendicular with the first electric/cordless drill tests. especially when you had it perpendicular during the first hand tools.
    Any ways enough off me ranting on, it was nice to see such a comparison of old v new, and i will agree the quality of things now aren't just what the used to be like, in terms of the steel bits. I respect that this is your own opinion on these tools and i honour your love for the old and traditional tools. Keep up the videos :)

    • @sergarlantyrell7847
      @sergarlantyrell7847 9 років тому +2

      TheMrSeamus I don't think that he didn't KNOW how to use them, I think he chose to give them a hard time and not to give a fair comparison. He put too much weight on the cordless and at the start and didn't control his speed/torque at the beginning which just ripped up the surface.
      In general older bits were made better but that doesn't mean you cant get equally good or better ones now (just probably not off the rack in home depot). Borrowed some fancy wood bits off a friend a few years back, proper cutting heads on the end of the augers. But they were made of something like TiN coated carbon steel; I tell you you could practically shave with those suckers! With a cordless drill, went cleanly through like a hot knife through butter.

    • @TheMrSeamus
      @TheMrSeamus 9 років тому +1

      Ser Garlan Tyrell Yes, sorry i didn't mean that he couldn't or didn't know how to use them, as he is a very skilled man and has no problem handling any tool, it was just his way towards the modern tools, as you said in better words than me he chose to give them a hard time, due to his love and passion for the old traditional tools, and i full respect this and love to see them still being used.
      I also agree that there definitely is some very high quality bits available now, especially with new materials and manufacturing methods. the only problem is as you say "fancy wood bits", most good things are nearly always too good to use in my situation haha if you get what i mean.
      And its always nice to be cutting anything with a perfectly honed sharp tool, i always find great satisfaction from it, especially if you spent time sharpening the tools yourself you really get to appreciate a sharp edge and look after your tools.

    • @sergarlantyrell7847
      @sergarlantyrell7847 9 років тому +1

      TheMrSeamus I meant "fancy" in that TiN looks like Gold, only as hard as (sapphires perhaps?), well I'm not sure what the rated hardness was but it held an edge like nothing else! (That was probably the most impressive part)

  • @Wogby
    @Wogby 9 років тому +2

    Waited a long time for these videos, thanks mate!

  • @AgentJohnSteed
    @AgentJohnSteed 9 років тому +5

    Does paring the older bits with the newer electrical drive cause issues with heat? Or is the wood soft enough that heat build up isn't an issue with the bit as it never get to that high of a temperature.

    • @RamSkirata
      @RamSkirata 9 років тому

      John Smith a good question. I'd like to know the answer also.

    • @wrightshot1
      @wrightshot1 9 років тому +1

      John Smith Most drills today come with variable speed triggers so the heat will not be an issue. And make sure the bit is sharp.

    • @andregross7420
      @andregross7420 9 років тому

      John Smith Carbon steel will probably loose it's temper at 400F or so, by then the wood will be smoking!

  • @billsutherland2128
    @billsutherland2128 8 років тому

    It occurs to me that sharpening the newer bit and giving it a different angle of cut would create a better hole cutter: trading quality for speed. Also, the newer bit your using was never meant for aesthetics, but for saving time at a modern construction site doing electrical or plumbing work. The crappy hole is hidden behind drywall or plaster, unlike holes that are exposed in furniture. You have a talent for honesty and dry humor, thank you for your videos!

  • @TheBladeSickness
    @TheBladeSickness 8 років тому

    Hey wranglerstar, or anyone with advice. I am looking for a brace currently. I have been looking at the older ones, but I want to be able to use modern day drill bits because they are widely available. Will the old style chucks hold the modern, round drill bits, or only the squared back drill bits used in this video? Thanks, Will.

  • @CleaveMountaineering
    @CleaveMountaineering 5 років тому +1

    I used to work as a ropes course and zipline tour builder, we used yellow 18v drills extensively pushing 13/16" x 24" drills through big trees. We were forever fighting with dead batteries, halfway through a hole, then having to scramble to get a new battery up to the guy in a tree, hanging there waiting for a new one. I've often wondered if using a brace would have been just as efficient.

  • @davewood406
    @davewood406 9 років тому +11

    Spur Augur bits are still common, the bit you had the tear out on was a ship augur which lacks the spur on purpose so the first nail you hit doesn't destroy the bit. A valuable thing for an electrician or plumber. Not inferior by any means, just different needs. Fast drilling and durable.

  • @Scooter110
    @Scooter110 Рік тому

    Great video! I wonder how long it took for the corded electric drill if you included the time taken to find and set-up the cord and find a power outlet. If you were only doing 1 2 or 3 holes the bit and brace might be faster, especially if you were out in the field.

  • @symetryrtemys2101
    @symetryrtemys2101 9 років тому

    Fair test or not, this video series made me smile. They are always chucking away braces at the local tip, maybe I will pick one up for a pound or two and give it a try. I have a hand drill a bit like that shoulder drill, I agree it's a bit of a handful and not that comfortable, but at least the battery never runs out!

  • @mbh8280
    @mbh8280 9 років тому +3

    I think the quality of the bit is more important than the quality of whatever is spinning it. It just has to spin, the bit does all the work. And on a side, I am no expert, but could the angle of the drill (didn't appear to be at a good 90 degree angle) have caused that tearing that you seemed to shame so much?

  • @davidk7544
    @davidk7544 2 роки тому

    Love the MIL advice. Glad to see good general advice accompanying wood-working (farmers' almanac style). Thanks for the video too! Had no idea how these tools worked.

  • @timothygreen8531
    @timothygreen8531 8 років тому

    would love to have another bit and brace set again. Loved them , my dad was old school when it came to construction, He was in the business almost sixty years. So yes would rather have a bit and brace set

  • @TheRocknRolla84
    @TheRocknRolla84 9 років тому +1

    Now that you've tested old versus new auger bits. You should try testing out old auger versus new paddle/spade bit. I think that if you want a nice clean hole using modern electric tools your best bet would be to use a paddle/spade bit instead of an auger bit. But yeah as always I love watching your videos and cant wait to see the next one! :D

  • @colemcmillan4714
    @colemcmillan4714 9 років тому

    Enjoyed this a lot, would I ever give up my cordless Milwaukee's no not ever or my 1/2 craftsman nope no way. But there is a bit and brace set in my near future. Just watching those bits cut that clean of hole with no drama yeah that's the good stuff. Thanks for the videos.

  • @michaeldougfir9807
    @michaeldougfir9807 8 років тому

    Good demo. I will increase my search for old, higher quality bits now. That side cutter makes a real difference.
    For electric drills I always get a half inch capacity chuck with variable speed and reversible. I always look for an increase in capacity of my tools.

  • @jacktumbleweed
    @jacktumbleweed 9 років тому

    I absolutely love working with high quality hand tools. Power tools are nice when you just need to "get it done" but I enjoy the work itself much more working with fine tools. Great videos. Subscribed.

  • @giottolaudo7672
    @giottolaudo7672 7 років тому

    I loved the John Henry reference...that was one of my favorite stories, growing up...with the added benefit of being (more or less) true! Amazing. I'm not ashamed to admit that I cried every time we got to the part where his mighty heart just gave out... Also, I think you hit the nail on the head (no pun intended) with the "old plus new" idea. Watching that powerful corded drill, working hand in hand with that tried and tested old bit, just driving smoothly and swiftly right through that beam...well, it was a pretty awesome sight. :-)

  • @MrDskaiser
    @MrDskaiser 8 років тому

    The bit with the one cutting side and the twisted not straight shaft is what my old electrical boss would call a nail eater bit. We would grab this if there was a chance of hitting a nail. Have personally watched as it cut then pulled out that portion of nail. I have also had them pull out the whole nail. I would be curious to see if some instruction had this information. I would not be able to pass this on if he had not owned both types and told me. I like how you always say about the lost skills. Love your channel keep up the wonderful work.

  • @marshallfairbanks2486
    @marshallfairbanks2486 9 років тому

    Do you know how to sharpen bits for a brace as mine have gotten blunt through a lot of use

  • @md_outdoors4623
    @md_outdoors4623 9 років тому

    well just looked at my post i should tell you i have been building log homes for almost 23 years but in no way saying anything bad about your videos i enjoy all of them

  • @anthonystrazhnikov2741
    @anthonystrazhnikov2741 8 років тому

    Hello wranglerstar I just recently bought a huge lot of the antique auger bits like the ones you used on your hand drills. I was wondering is there a way to chuck the old fashioned drill bits with the prism at the end of the bit onto a modern cordless/corded drill? I tried chucking it onto my hand drill, but it does not stay in the chuck it just falls out. Thanks. Please let me know if you know anything about this.
    -Anthony

  • @OfficialistDave
    @OfficialistDave 9 років тому

    I think a forstner bit would serve you quite well in situations such a this. I use them for everything, including drilling holes nobody but myself will see, and they leave beautiful holes with little fuss.
    Great to see the old bits doing what they were designed to do though.

  • @algreen1
    @algreen1 9 років тому

    Wow, your grandfathers old adjustable bit did really well, ingenious and well made. It's a pleasure to watch how the bits performed after studying the manual in the previous video. I think one mistake in your technique was applying too much pressure with your body both with the shoulder drill and electric drills. "The screw supplies the pulling power for the bit", right? :) Glad to see manly manners again. Best, al.

  • @PilchPlays
    @PilchPlays 9 років тому +1

    That new 1" bit you used for the first electric drill is only a single flute. It's designed to tear a whole through the wood to run a cable. It doesn't have to make a supper clean hole. If you need a nice clean hole for a dowel then you use a forstner bit set . You want quality with your speed you can get it with the right bits. The key is using the right tools for the job. No matter if you go old school or new school. Use the right tool for the job. You don't have to have trade offs when it comes to drilling a hole.

  • @rparnaby3843
    @rparnaby3843 9 років тому

    Well put, quality vintage bits craftsmanship at its finest. And I am blessed too Cody to have a mother in law who is charming and also a good friend in my life.

  • @oldmanSturzl
    @oldmanSturzl 9 років тому +1

    Thank you for the video!

  • @toddbolduc8000
    @toddbolduc8000 9 років тому +1

    Hi Cody.
    How sharp is that modern drill bit? Can it even be sharpened like the vintage bits? Your Irwin and Milwaukee bits look beautifully honed, especially the adjustable bit. Do you think you could put such an edge on the modern bit, or is it not made of comparable steel?

  • @Splunkzop
    @Splunkzop 8 років тому

    After twenty years making a living as a carpenter and using all the power tools I could to get the job done. 4 years in the Australian army as a Combat Engineer and, again, using all the most modern tools and equipment to get things happening quickly. Now as a coal miner driving equipment as big as a house to, yet again, get the job done quickly, I like to go out to my shed and use hand tools that one of my grandfathers used nearly a hundred years ago to build things from timber or to crank up my forge (I've done my trade course as a Blacksmith, too!) and make things without power tools. It makes me feel good and feel connected to the things I make and I love not having to work to a deadline.

  • @stevehoppe497
    @stevehoppe497 9 років тому

    Nice job, love the old tools for hand tools for accuracy and effiency as well. Time is money for todays carpenters and tradesman. But, if you want to be proud of your work, love the time and effort of old hand tools.. Thankyou

  • @rjimlad
    @rjimlad 9 років тому

    Only a few years ago I had to put up a skillion along the back of my house with a carpenter friend who volunteered. We used reclaimed Australian hardwood so hard an Abrams would struggle to put a hole through it. In order to hammer in 4in nails we had to drill pilot holes first and this destroyed two rechargeable drills and our mains-powered (240v) drill smoked up and died. Enter the brace and bit which my friend inherited from his grandfather. With quality bits we had the job done and I've been a fan ever since.

  • @Kris_at_WhiteOaksFarm
    @Kris_at_WhiteOaksFarm 9 років тому

    Very enjoyable. I tend to use hand tools unless I need to make a lot of holes or cuts or whatever. Often, by the time I get out the tool, the extension cord and all the other stuff needed for power tool use, I can have the job done with a hand tool. A bit brace in the sugar bush never runs out of power, I might, but the brace never does.

  • @willynthepoorboys2
    @willynthepoorboys2 9 років тому

    Hit the nail on the head when you said media causes people to form an attitude/idea about things and that causes a failure in giving the situation an nonopinionated oppertunity to unfold.
    Great series and I love that little book.

  • @billbutler2452
    @billbutler2452 5 років тому

    I had to run romex, maybe 40 - 50', for power to a sound booth we were creating for our store-front church, and also 2" PVC conduit for cables from mikes to the sound board, 55', for 2 cables to the dias. Bought a 3/4" Irwin 3-blade bit, way better than a standard spade bit, zipped thru 4" thick floor joists. Had to use a 2" Hole-cutter to get thru five 6x8" beams, pain in the keister cutting w/ hole cutter then clearing hole w/ hammer & chisel, doing both sides following a pilot hole because the beam was too thick for a single pass with what tools we had.. Got the job done in a morning, Church now has a sound system, and I really like the Irwin 3-blade bits. Went out and bought a small 4 piece set after that job. I do like the brace & bit, have & use my own set on occasion. This was not that occasion, God Bless a good 1/2" corded drill.

  • @1jacot
    @1jacot 9 років тому

    I absolutely love the manley manners! They seam to be so simple and truthful.

  • @gtalckmin
    @gtalckmin 8 років тому

    Your audios are great. Do you always use public domain audio? Where do you get them?
    Cheers

  • @111raybartlett
    @111raybartlett 9 років тому

    Don't forget the blowout on the underside with the higher speed drills! A real pain, I know there are lots of tricks around it but a bit and brace adds a subtle touch.

  • @214rwoz
    @214rwoz 9 років тому

    Very nicely done and said. Thank you and God Bless

  • @glduncan68
    @glduncan68 9 років тому +1

    Watching these videos... I feel I (we) are a dying breed.

  • @1marMusa
    @1marMusa 9 років тому

    using a forstner bit with your drill on low speed high torque and applying small pressure will give you a clean hole. i've done several 1" holes using my lightweight makita 18v, you just need to treat each tool different.

  • @abcarp1302
    @abcarp1302 9 років тому

    Good series. The dead battery was so true. But the best part for me was the manly manors, thanks.

  • @toddlfrank
    @toddlfrank 9 років тому

    Do you think you can sharpen one of the bits using the instructions supplied with the set?
    Quantity over Quality.

  • @live2ride73
    @live2ride73 9 років тому

    nice plug for the in-laws. hope to see a video from the wranglerstar homestead around Christmas. take care.

  • @OldDungeonMaster
    @OldDungeonMaster 9 років тому

    With power drills you will never feel the grain as you do with a auger bit or twist bit or even a spoon bit for me I enjoy to slow down and do things the old way making sure my tools are sharp and that I know how to use them. If not read a book or ask I have nothing against power tools just have found that by using all hand tools brings calm to my life that I really need being a traditional woodworker brings me great joy knowing that I was taught by my grandfather and I have the honor to still use his tools to make nice things for my family.

  • @liqnorop7999
    @liqnorop7999 9 років тому +2

    hey wranglerstar can you do another axe restoratiion vid, i really enjoy them :)

  • @stevenhardy2898
    @stevenhardy2898 9 років тому

    Your right ..they have cheapified the Milwaukee magnum drill...I have an 80's version (with old Milwaukee bits and old Irwin bits.)

  • @chrisvanweele6641
    @chrisvanweele6641 8 років тому

    I can see how dull that homedepot bit is, did you drill holes in your driveway first?

  • @Boomer8404
    @Boomer8404 9 років тому +2

    Your comment, "With speed you loose the quality," that's not true. You disproved that by using the 1.5" bit in the power drill. End quality had nothing to do with speed, it had to do with the tool you used.

  • @joncromwell3696
    @joncromwell3696 4 роки тому

    Was the DeWalt on low speed?
    If you need a clean hole with an electric drill, get a Forstner bit.

  • @easttnwoodturner1047
    @easttnwoodturner1047 9 років тому

    will you do a video on sharpening these bits?

  • @mayobushcraft
    @mayobushcraft 9 років тому

    Cody The key aspect is speed or should I say less speed. Most electric drill motors turn to fast for a auger bit and without a spur you will get breakout. Also bits with a screw tip are a danger to use with a drill motor more so when drilling in hardwoods most people cannot control the power twist at speed and the chance of injury is very high. That is why spade bits are a better choice with a drill motor.
    Love your videos and the life path you have chosen for you and your family.
    Good luck and god bless.
    James

  • @neilwalowen5182
    @neilwalowen5182 9 років тому

    So when can we see the Simonds Crosscut Saw handles? And I loved the test just goes to show how old tools r superior.

  • @blaze806
    @blaze806 9 років тому

    it was worth the wait!

  • @williams3118
    @williams3118 9 років тому

    There is a song by the Drive By Truckers called The Day John Henry Died which is a fantastic song from a talented band

  • @dstew5395
    @dstew5395 9 років тому +2

    Bit and brace, by far my favourite tool!

  • @BienenThor
    @BienenThor 5 років тому

    Did I miss the part where you explained why you drill holes into this piece of lumber? :D

  • @RamSkirata
    @RamSkirata 9 років тому +2

    I am glad that you know John Henry :) Do you also know the famous song ? I love it.

    • @RamSkirata
      @RamSkirata 9 років тому

      Ram Skirata PS: best version is from Springsteen in my opinion

  • @DictatorTuna
    @DictatorTuna 9 років тому

    My wife and I have the husband and wife matching set of those little books. Kind of interesting stuff. They were a wedding gift

  • @alexclawson4096
    @alexclawson4096 9 років тому

    What is the book that you're referencing.

  • @Falney
    @Falney 9 років тому

    Feel free to do this test again but with none bargain basement bits for the drill. You cant use two different qualities of tool attachments when comparing tools. That's like saying "Which is faster, an American car or a Japanese car" then using a Dodge Vyper vs Toyota Prius

  • @dburga1
    @dburga1 8 років тому

    what about a spade bit instead of the modern auger bit? The spade bit with drill vs the brace with auger bit.

  • @MrHANGALABANGALA
    @MrHANGALABANGALA 6 років тому

    well you have to even out speed with pressure, i use cordless tools all the time as i am a builder. making holes is also something i do alot, and i do not have an issue with having those huge horrible edges, because i dont miss use my drills.

  • @mattterrien3698
    @mattterrien3698 8 років тому

    Where else can brace/bit merits and mothers-in-law be discussed. I too am blessed with a wonderful mother-in-law! Appreciate the discussion.

  • @chadmckinney3356
    @chadmckinney3356 8 років тому

    SF 10W-A18 Cordless drill driver made specifically for this purpose. Drill through wood with auger bits.

  • @MountainNZ
    @MountainNZ 8 років тому +1

    To be fair to the bit at 3:35 it looks like its been sharpened out of factory and that poorly. That's the problem with those bits, they're quite expensive and once they're damaged they are really tough to sharpen well.

  • @Chelanwechel
    @Chelanwechel 9 років тому

    As soon as you said "do you know who John Henry was?", I immediately said "He was a steel driving man". Man, the stuff that gets stuck in your head.

    • @bluenorthnw
      @bluenorthnw 9 років тому

      Kids today, when asked, would probably think he was a reality star they forgot.

  • @samfosteriam
    @samfosteriam 9 років тому

    With the brace and bit you just know you will *always* be able to make a hole - wherever and whenever. On a roof, out in the field. No extension cords to drag around and coil up afterwards, no generator to lug with you, the batteries never run out. They are light and powerful. Also good as a driver for lag bolts and stubborn screws. You do need the clearance for the swing though, I guess that and the speed are the only downsides.

  • @timmerkel2413
    @timmerkel2413 9 років тому

    My thoughts about the tear out is that if I am making hole that won't be seen I don't mind the little tear out but if I am making a hole that will be seen by people many times over then I will go to those great lengths to make it clean.

  • @seller559
    @seller559 9 років тому

    Great points. Still relevant.

  • @Mr2heads
    @Mr2heads 9 років тому

    that auger bit has a hardened tip and is designed to keep drilling even if you hit a nail and will go through the nail or tear it out. Really just for electrical rough-in,not designed for a clean hole.

  • @13jtyler
    @13jtyler 9 років тому

    nice Milwaukee magnum hole shooter i got 3 of em best drill u can get wranglerstar

  • @mattdorsey1096
    @mattdorsey1096 9 років тому

    Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the reasoning behind the product quality gap between today and the past is because now big companies are ran by corporate people and big investors. Back in the day when products had great quality the engineers and builders ran the companies.

  • @karsonbranham3900
    @karsonbranham3900 9 років тому

    I was surprised at the poor results of the auger bit and power drill. ICS cutting tool makes wood boring bits, and they are reasonably priced, decent built, made in USA tools. Another good video!

  • @trapper23ful
    @trapper23ful 9 років тому

    Cody for my part I love my Old yes OLD brace and augers especially when I work without power source, equally I adore my hand operated Mitre Saw for the same reason. Yes power makes it easier but not always better hard graft is what makes the project something to be proud of

  • @oldproji
    @oldproji 6 років тому

    Cordless drills are great for screws and small pilot holes. Corded drills can be a pain but great for prolonged heavy use. A brace is the way to go if you want a good bespoke look but do take longer to use. It's horses for courses.

  • @cowsofsuffolk2297
    @cowsofsuffolk2297 9 років тому

    I go through this all the time. Dead batteries, running a cord, etc. etc. the old stuff is great if your doing a few precise holes.

  •  9 років тому

    I have exactly the same type of ratcheting hand drill as in this video. However mine is a bit more rusty :(
    Recently I was drilling a hole in my barn, while standing on a ladder, with a cheap crappy corded electric drill using a modern cheap auger bit. The bit was going slow, so I was going to stop drilling. However it turned out I had accidentally hit the "drill lock", so when I let go of the trigger and relaxed my arm it kept drilling, hit me in the neck with the handle.... And all this while I was standing on a ladder with no where to escape. The drill kept spinning out of control and I frantically tried to yank the cord. Eventually it wrapped around my arm and the drill stopped when the cabel got pulled out from a crappy connection at the drill end. Of course then I was standing on a ladder with a live 240V cable with exposed cables around my arm. I was quick to jank the cord.
    I had believed my cordless didn't have the power to do the job like it looked liked for you in this video. However I tried using it instead after the incident and it worked fine, as long as you keep the speed down. The type of bit you used in this video gets gummed up pretty quickly if you go too fast.
    The rest of the holes I had to do on the ladder I used the old rusty hand drill for instead, with the modern bit. It worked great! And you have so much more control.
    I have no idea why the "keep drilling forever" feature exists on corded drills, and why the button for it is right where your thumb is on most the drills I've ever seen. Crazy dangerous. At least they should put it in a place where it's impossible to trigger unintentionally.

  • @larrysherrill4097
    @larrysherrill4097 9 років тому

    I think you are spot on. The best combo is old with the new ie. MODERN HOMESTEADING.

  • @tjparnall3484
    @tjparnall3484 9 років тому

    If you are willing to buy a used brace cheap, then you can take it apart and remove the chuck and it will have a 1/2 inch round shank that you can put into an electric drill. That way, you can use all your old brace bits in an electric drill without having to cut off the tapered ends. This works well for me when I don't want to work in a traditional way.

  • @Matthew-mq6fz
    @Matthew-mq6fz 9 років тому

    Nobody who knows what they're doing would use one of those big beastly bits on a fine wood project. Those long bits are great for drilling through studs; they're long enough to drill through one and make a mark on another so you can keep your wire running fairly straight. They're best used with a corded Hole Hawg-type drill, although the newer Dewalts and Milwaukee cordless drills can handle them well.

  • @drmaudio
    @drmaudio 9 років тому

    I very much agree. Expedience may get you speed, but quality begets quality.

  • @tinyphantazma
    @tinyphantazma 9 років тому

    The mother in law bit, I just have to say this, I have never had any problems with mine either. My father used to warn me about mother-in-laws :D He had some... difficulties.

  • @ManRudBih
    @ManRudBih 9 років тому

    While I do love these old timey tools myself I have one piece of advice for you: One still needs to know how fast to drill with power tools. Especially concerning larger hole diameters. These little conical screws on top of the bits are meant to pull it into the wood so power tools on high revs are trying to pull the bit into the wood way to fast thus causing the tear out you've been experiencing. And another thing these tiny power tools you're using just don't have the torque to do that at lower revs. So why am I saying this if I love these old timey tools?
    The comparison you were trying here was done using the wrong power tool for the job at hand.

  • @Suiseiseki00Rozen
    @Suiseiseki00Rozen 8 років тому +1

    i find situations where my hand drill, cordless screwdriver and corded drill each are best suited for the situation

  • @guyjones4936
    @guyjones4936 7 років тому

    I am not sure what was wrong with your cordless drill. I did electrical work for years, drilling studs with that same drill and similar auger bits. My DeWalt never stalled like that even going through multiple stacked studs by windows and doors!

  • @wilygoutdoors
    @wilygoutdoors 9 років тому

    I dont get it
    your saying a auger thats used for rough construction, runing wire, or pipe isnt a bit for fine wood working personly it seems silly to me to compare them

  • @jobyEN
    @jobyEN 9 років тому +1

    Please, fix that power cord of that magnum power drill!

  • @thewhitedogdad
    @thewhitedogdad 9 років тому +4

    Hay Cory
    ;Another fun video, thanks. Speaking of mother-in -laws I used to be married to a woman and I liked her mother better than the woman. LOL