Of course you mixed this record.. This is my all time favorite NJ album.. I could listen to the whole album on repeat for days. So much separation, the drums hit hard when they need to and sound organic throughout. Love your work on this album.
Would love to hear your insights on the small automation moves you make! I can see kicks being boosted on the downbeats for example, but what other tips and tricks do you have regarding automation?
15:00 too much cymbal bleed? then why not gate first then do the EQ after so it only eqs the drum and doesn't affect the gating? Just confused why you say cymbals are holding you back. thx
Hi Jordan ! Thanks a lot for this walkthrough ! Just a little question but how do you exactly handle tracks like OHs, Room, Reverb and Parallel Compression in the case of a metal/modern nu metal drums ? I have watched every videos from your channel but these tracks often seem to have the same goal, I don't really know how to properly set the compressor and volume for each ones. Thanks a lot !
Hi Jordan! Once again, great stuff, thank you very much for taking the time. I got a question for you, please: why are you using aux sends to your snare bus and kick bus from the original channels, instead of setting the output of those channels to your kick and snare buses? (The output of the original channels in this project is set to your drum bus). This way, your snare sound comes both from your snare bus and also from your drum bus in a parallel way (besides your "crush" channel which is also working in parallel). Why do you choose to do this? I hope you can understand my question. That's the only thing I didn't understand about your workflow. But everything else is clear and I really appreciate this tutorial. Thank you! Edit: Nevermind, I found out those are just VCA channels. Thank you
I can tell you're from Canada by the way you say "out" which is "oat". Let's check this oat. So, where is Nick from???? Canada! I heard some of that album a few years ago. I thought it was really good but never really listened to the drums so much (being a guitarist) but this is quite interesting. I wonder how you got those samples into their own tracks. Did you somehow trigger them FROM the real tracks? Maybe you have a vid on that where you explain. Thx for the walkthrough!
I can't remember which video. I think it was one of his "best plugins" videos. He uses a plugin called Trigger 2, it triggers off of audio and you load your own samples. I think he even mentioned he shares his custom samples on his site.
@@capoman1 ah. ok. Yeah, layering sometimes lets you get more interesting sounds and more control. I always wondered about using like 7 or 8 snare sounds just to create one snare sound. Prob wouldn't be so amazing but what if you panned each one? and gave each it's own effects. hahah multitracking.....
@@TruthSurge One of his videos he shows loading a bunch of samples in Trigger, it has an inbuilt mixer. So yes he was adding top and bottom snare and room snare samples and mixing them to give the snare more body. So yes it can sound really good, and it's transparent, mixed together it sounds like a unique sample.
@@capoman1 yeah, layering is a great technique. I have done quadruple guitar tracks to make rhythm sound bigger and even 7 tracks of guitar. It really can make some amazing sounds
14:00 this happens to me. I get a lovely snare sound. And then when the room / reverb goes in, the snare top disappears and makes up like 5% of the overall snare sound! Can anyone hear a noticeable difference when the plugins are on and off in this section?
Hey! I don't know why I'm having issues (like phase cancelation or something) when I put the decapitator on my parallel drum bus compression. I think all the sends and buses are routed well, any idea on why could this be happening?
check that delay compensation is on. if it's still giving you phase problems, copy the plugin chains so they're the same on both tracks, and just bypass the ones you don't need to each one specifically. That way the plugin delay will line up.
It`s funny how all of you "mixing gurus" recommend that one should only work on a track in the context of the whole mix with all tracks going and then work on isolated tracks and busses all the time ( which makes perfect sense ) ... I have no idea why you say nopnsense like this ... of course you need to work on individual tracks before you do the whole mix ... and there`s no way around it ... there are many other tips you give that are very iffy at best. The advice I have is this: LEARN YOUR GEAR WELL, HAVE THE SOUND OF THE FINAL MIX IN YOUR HEAD, GET AS CLOSE TO IT AS POSSIBLE and PRAY THAT YOUR CLIENT LIKE IT TO. If you don`t have the ears and the resolve to do it, you don`t belong in this business. It looks like you only do these videos for some YT pennies
What work have you done professionally? I'd love to hear your portfolio as you're definitely more reputable based on your rambling in the UA-cam comment section and your schizo videos. Post your work boyo.
I did not know you mixed this record. It's been in my reference list for quite some time. It sounds absolutely great!
Discovered johnston's stuff years ago and only found out this channel recently. What a weird feeling.
dude same
billy, is that you?
Of course you mixed this record.. This is my all time favorite NJ album.. I could listen to the whole album on repeat for days. So much separation, the drums hit hard when they need to and sound organic throughout. Love your work on this album.
Let me remind you this is a very special channel.
Thank you Jordan for breaking down your process.
it's so simple that it made me realize I've been overdoing things
The room mic really makes this drum sound
Gavin Harrison on drums it's half mix already :)
A high level overview of what you put on your guitar buss or your main funnel points would be awesome.
The drums was really well recorded
I've watched this back in 2018. Great tutorial. Really worth it.
dude...how do you not name drop Gavin Harrison?! I knew immediately who it was when I first heard this record. It was a good mix though
GREAT natural drum sound! I'll try on my rock mixes, thanks A LOT!!!!
I had no idea you mixed this record! I love this record so much.
great album, nice work you did there
Sounds amazing, and of course a Gavin harrison track is going to be flawlessly played
Great sound! I thought that this is Superior Drummer 3 VST drums...
Gavin Harrison on drums??? Thanks man for this video!! Cheers, Jeroen Simons, Indepenent, ex- Epica.
This tutorial is a truly inspiring, your simple explanation with expensive knowledge hats off to you man bless ya.. Keep doin always supporting 👍🤘
Now I understand why this record sounds so good, you mixed it :)
Would love to hear your insights on the small automation moves you make! I can see kicks being boosted on the downbeats for example, but what other tips and tricks do you have regarding automation?
15:00 too much cymbal bleed? then why not gate first then do the EQ after so it only eqs the drum and doesn't affect the gating? Just confused why you say cymbals are holding you back. thx
Dudeee, i was looking for this so bad!! Thank you!
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Well done and very well explained. Great work.
Sounds sooo good
Hey man great drum video keep up the great work sounds great
I am curious to know what’s on your mix bus. Great lessons learnt in this video thanks Jordan. 🙏
Your content is gold
Great video! Love these
I haven't been able to find drums that sound similar to this, you should make drum samples for our use!
You can get some of his samples if you buy the courses. You get also a free snare sample if you attend his free webinar.
@@mrcoatsworth429 Amazing!
Otherwise check out Steven slate trigger or iwantthatsound...they have amazing drum samples
GGD modern and massive are very close to these drums especially the room and snare sounds.
Hard to believe the mix was done entirely in the box because people on Gearslutz said you can't have a good mix in the box.
They cant have good mix in the box.I do only in the box.heavyvibrationstudiopl.bandcamp.com/
Rule #1: Take stuff in from Gearslutz with a HUGE grain of salt.
You can ask Andrew Scheps what he thinks about that XD
Frankly we here in 2020 lol it's just straight up dumb at this point to make statements like that
@@noir4659 you can say that straight to their face.
I think the most important question here is: how does it feel to mix Gavin Harrison's performance?
A joy to mix these drum tracks
Hi Jordan ! Thanks a lot for this walkthrough !
Just a little question but how do you exactly handle tracks like OHs, Room, Reverb and Parallel Compression in the case of a metal/modern nu metal drums ? I have watched every videos from your channel but these tracks often seem to have the same goal, I don't really know how to properly set the compressor and volume for each ones.
Thanks a lot !
great tutorial!
This sounds so amazing man! Thank you for sharing this content.
Perfect tutorial! 👍👍
Hi Jordan! Once again, great stuff, thank you very much for taking the time. I got a question for you, please: why are you using aux sends to your snare bus and kick bus from the original channels, instead of setting the output of those channels to your kick and snare buses? (The output of the original channels in this project is set to your drum bus). This way, your snare sound comes both from your snare bus and also from your drum bus in a parallel way (besides your "crush" channel which is also working in parallel). Why do you choose to do this? I hope you can understand my question. That's the only thing I didn't understand about your workflow. But everything else is clear and I really appreciate this tutorial. Thank you! Edit: Nevermind, I found out those are just VCA channels. Thank you
Looks like there's been compression on the way in right ? At least on k and SN
I can tell you're from Canada by the way you say "out" which is "oat". Let's check this oat. So, where is Nick from???? Canada! I heard some of that album a few years ago. I thought it was really good but never really listened to the drums so much (being a guitarist) but this is quite interesting. I wonder how you got those samples into their own tracks. Did you somehow trigger them FROM the real tracks? Maybe you have a vid on that where you explain. Thx for the walkthrough!
I can't remember which video. I think it was one of his "best plugins" videos. He uses a plugin called Trigger 2, it triggers off of audio and you load your own samples. I think he even mentioned he shares his custom samples on his site.
@@capoman1 ah. ok. Yeah, layering sometimes lets you get more interesting sounds and more control. I always wondered about using like 7 or 8 snare sounds just to create one snare sound. Prob wouldn't be so amazing but what if you panned each one? and gave each it's own effects. hahah multitracking.....
@@TruthSurge One of his videos he shows loading a bunch of samples in Trigger, it has an inbuilt mixer. So yes he was adding top and bottom snare and room snare samples and mixing them to give the snare more body. So yes it can sound really good, and it's transparent, mixed together it sounds like a unique sample.
@@capoman1 yeah, layering is a great technique. I have done quadruple guitar tracks to make rhythm sound bigger and even 7 tracks of guitar. It really can make some amazing sounds
@@capoman1 yeah, the final result sounded really good. Had body, crack and ring. all that. Sounded really good.
14:00 this happens to me. I get a lovely snare sound. And then when the room / reverb goes in, the snare top disappears and makes up like 5% of the overall snare sound! Can anyone hear a noticeable difference when the plugins are on and off in this section?
Try to use the reverb only on the snare sample..
What would be a good alternative to the Lo-Fi plugin for non-avid users?
how do you handle phase issues with room mics that are not far away enough... As always a lesson learned on your videos!! Cheers
Is it common to make these same eq moves on even decent recorded instruments?
appreciate the tutorial. You got one for high hat mic?
2:51 Nice
Do you use saturation instead of clippers in the kick and the snare? Or sometimes you use clippers too?
Damn mam slow tools just looks archaic haha
soooooo helpful
Hey Jordan! Great video! Just curious, did you mix his last album as well?
No he's not. Wide Eyes in the Dark (2019) was mixed by John Douglass.
What did you do to match the Kick Sample Velocity/Level to the live Kick?
A thought for a moment you were mixing the beggininng of Blackstar from Yngwie XD
Do you normally double kick and snares on mastering?
Hey Jordan,
Just curious - do you happen to know where these drums were recorded and who the engineer was on the project? Thanks
If I remember correctly, the drums were played and recorded by Gavin Harrison in his home studio.
Hey! I don't know why I'm having issues (like phase cancelation or something) when I put the decapitator on my parallel drum bus compression. I think all the sends and buses are routed well, any idea on why could this be happening?
Same problem on my general drum bus, it's like it sounds more narrow and thin, like something is missing. What could it be?
check that delay compensation is on. if it's still giving you phase problems, copy the plugin chains so they're the same on both tracks, and just bypass the ones you don't need to each one specifically. That way the plugin delay will line up.
@@hardcoremusicstudio Thank you for investing your time in answer me and thank you for mixing this album
Wow
Renaissance EQ looks so archaic. ha
EZX
It`s funny how all of you "mixing gurus" recommend that one should only work on a track in the context of the whole mix with all tracks going and then work on isolated tracks and busses all the time ( which makes perfect sense ) ... I have no idea why you say nopnsense like this ... of course you need to work on individual tracks before you do the whole mix ... and there`s no way around it ... there are many other tips you give that are very iffy at best. The advice I have is this: LEARN YOUR GEAR WELL, HAVE THE SOUND OF THE FINAL MIX IN YOUR HEAD, GET AS CLOSE TO IT AS POSSIBLE and PRAY THAT YOUR CLIENT LIKE IT TO. If you don`t have the ears and the resolve to do it, you don`t belong in this business. It looks like you only do these videos for some YT pennies
What work have you done professionally? I'd love to hear your portfolio as you're definitely more reputable based on your rambling in the UA-cam comment section and your schizo videos. Post your work boyo.