my older brother was like this. 6'4, steroids, built like a brick shithouse, cocky, arrogant, always thought he was the toughest guy in the room. it's insecurity, you know? he had he no self-esteem, he was scared all the time, so he lifted weights to intimidate people. he loved being a bully and intimidating regular people. once, in a bar, i saw a guy refuse to fight him and back down because he said "buddy, i just feel bad for you, and i'm not going to fight you over something dumb like this." my brother was a lot bigger than him, and he went away cocky, like "yeah, who's the man?" later the bartender told us later it was Jason Reinhardt, the pro MMA fighter from Decatur (we live in Chicago). he could have mopped the floor with my brother, but he didn't. he was the bigger man. muscles don't mean anything if you aren't prepped for the front lines. fighting is scary. fighting hurts. lifting weights doesn't prepare you for the battle.
Was in the USAF and was friends with this body builder, big dude. One day he picked a fight in a bar and the guy punched him in the chin and it was lights out. All those big muscles won't do a thing when you are asleep. From then on, we nicknamed him glassjaw. He hated it but we got a good laugh out of it.
@@categoricamente1753yea larger muscles require more energy maybe if you trained you could focus all your strength into one perfectly placed power shot but that’s the only way.
That but also being able to handle punishment. As kickboxer, we fighters get hit, a lot... bodybuilders don't. Normal people go KO from hits we take during sparring sessions. I had a friend join me in kickbox training, he ended up vomiting from exhaustion, and it was only ~10 mins of the hour we train. He never talked crap after that 🤣
@@qracer5708 at all. First of all a strongman is a lot more functional than a body builder to begin with. Second of all he actually trained and took real fights. Just dumb to include him. kinna discredits the entire video
Hafthor is a dumb inclusion as well. Strong men are not body builders lol. And grappling is not a fight so the Gordon Ryan example while rolling jits is pointless. if Thor was on top of Ryan in a real fight it would be pain and death
Bradley thinks that no rules would help him in a fight when, in reality, it would be a massive advantage to UFC fighters. The reason UFC and fighters in general have rules is because they don't want to kill each other.
@@carsormyr brain damage is what practicing fighters get when facing an experienced brawler,,,,go watch kots....that's real fighting,,,,,,above your level I bet.
@@carsormyr he has a point tho. i mean, not against body builders, but people used to fight with no rules can beat these fighters. I've seen a channel put all types of martial artists and one "regular joe" in a "realistic bar fight scenario" and the regular joe did by FAR the best. it's titled 6 Martial Artists Try to Survive a Bar Fight
Who would have thought that picking up heavy things and putting them down again will only make you good at picking heavy things up and putting them down again.
I mean it still will give you the edge over people with similar fight training. Most street fights are over within a minute, it's explosive anerobic power. A strong guy throwing even a decent punch is gonna be dangerous anyway.
Brother, I saw Scott Lawton sparring Eddie Hall after Lawton lost to skinny teenager Amir Khan and Hall couldnt even throw a punch, Lawton was popping him with light punches and Hall was nearly crying, Thor almost got knocked out by a punch from.a boxer half his size while prepareing for Hall
Umm no it isn't....unless it's with a soft individual .When actual crimes and ugly fights occur it's not cool dude. These ufc fighters aren't super heroes. They ain't cut like that and many of them haven't seen true uglyness in fights where they have to fend for their lives...they are used to controlled environments.
All fighting is bad. The reason all the combat sports guys tell you to avoid every fight you possibly can isn't because street fights are extra deadly or that you have to worry about somebody's friends or Schroeder's knives. It's because they're struggling to articulate the thought to you in the first place through all of the accumulated brain trauma and they don't want anyone to have to go through that. Every punch you take takes something from you and you never quite get it back. And that's just the penalty for winning.
I'm surprised that hasn't become popular and there aren't plastic surgeons out there doing that to people that want to look that way to be tough since their tattoos aren't working anymore.
He also knows what it’s like to be the biggest guy in the room when he trains, so along with every other big dude that has trained, he knows what a skilled small guy can do from personal experience. Those small guys spend all day sparring big dudes.
@shko-mi seems that he found trainers that were able to give him the body builder big pumped up muscle look along with working on oxygen retention and development of fast twitch muscles. I know I'm not saying it correctly but hopefully you know what I mean
@@shko-mi he wasnt bodybuilder, first he was strongman and won world strongest man 5 times and then he switched career to mma. Also as strongman he was the ONLY guy who did his cardio, other guys could lift more but nobody could lift longer than Mariusz and he always did more reps
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Theres people who think that because pro fighters fight under rules that the rules benefit them. In actuality, if you give a pro fighter no rules or restrictions, that actually makes them stronger and more likely to permanently injure an opponent.
Exactly what i thought as well. Some people think that professional fighters' capabilities and skills are limited only to the rules, while in reality the rules are the only things keeping them from going all out with their skills. It's like in mma or boxing where you're not allowed to hit the back of the head. And then people think that because they follow this rule in the ring, they would also follow it in the street. That's nonesense because they would definitely not care about rules in street situation. If anything that would be an opportinuty for them to be "illegal".
Many people think they know about things they know very little about. Even just watching MMA people think they know something about it and picture themselves wrestling someone down to the ground or even kicking someone in the head 😂. They’ve probably never had someone put their hands on them out of anger since high school. They know zero about the cardio required for grappling and that arm bars and other locks are meant to break bones and joints. A 5’ 7” trained fighter is either going to make him think he took them down and then break your arm or he’s going to hit you with a snappy upper cut inside the big dudes reach that breaks his jaw or he’s going to blow his knee out with what would be an illegal kick in a sanctioned fight.
Yeah that level of stupidity is not even funny anymore. Sometimes, although I do not want to be mean or arrogant, sometimes it feels like some people are closer to a shimpanzee, then they are to me, in terms of intelect. Imagine how painful it must be for people like Einstein, to walk this earth :D
You said it perfectly, many mention a "street fight" as if a UFC fighter would freeze with no rules involved. They can beat their opponents WITH rules, imagine what they could do with no rules to follow
the thing is that the MMA fighters are unlikely to try doing stuff which are dirty and illegal unless If they have also undertaken some self defense( like krav maga) classes as well.
They actually tend to fair poorly in such contexts. UFC is a contact sport, not violence. That said, they are miles better prepared than someone with no experience with either, as contact sport has a lot more transfer than bodybuilding.
@@528grave Information from someone who has researched this exact topic. Real world violence rarely involves much pugilism in the first place, let alone gloves/wraps that protect your hands, padded mats, or a certainty of squaring off a single assailant. Most real violence involves weapons, with environmental obstructions and hazards, an uncertainty in number of assailants, and most are either ambushes or from kin or family and thus generally when either their perception, response time, or emotional state are pre-compromised. Most contact sport athletes (including UFC) are trained only in the pugilism and wrestling skills involved in real violence, which are proportionally the least used or important.
@@NevisYsbryd research? ok buddy. The rubber actually meets the road somewhere. You cant 'research' this and consider yourself an expert on the topic by reading a book ... reality is even BJJ expertise can stack up against krag magra ... i dont care how many guys you have , you dont fuck with jon jones i.e ... guns no guns, numbers no numbers ... 99/100 scenarios it will not go well for you
Marius shouldn't be here. 1. He isn't a bodybuilder but a strongman. 2. He did train martial arts. 3. He'd demolish bodybuilders even if he didn't train MMA. 4. He isn't delusional because he put in the work before stepping in there. 5. This video isn't about less trained vs more trained fighters. 6. He's had 27 fights. You say lesser opponent but all those "lesser competition" are all trained fighters who would destroy all the other guys on this video. 7. Are you implying all the other people he beat are not fighters?
That's how fighters think,,,,,they think that if you dont practice a skill like they do,YOU COULDN'T POSSIBLY BEAT THEM... Who teaches them to think that way?
@az1m8290 not entirely true,,,,your thinking is,IF I PRACTICE SHOOTING FREE THROWS DAILY,FOR WEEKS,,MONTHS,EVEN YEARS,,,SO,EVERY TIME I SHOOT A FREE THROW, ILL ALWAYS MAKE IT..EVERYTIME.....flawed thinking, delusional aswell
@h0zteri69 maybe your missing my point,,,,I'm talking about the overconfidence and delusional way of thinking that those that practice at fighting have...they have a thinking of,,,I PRACTICE HOW TO FIGHT,SO I CAN BEAT ANYBODY WHO DOESN'T PRACTICE,,,,,,NOT TRUE.........and I've been in many fights against those that practice fighting,,,BEAT EVERYONE.
Body builders have two incredible disadvantages that their egos overlook. First, they don't to much cardio, so they will gas after 30 seconds. Second, their only training is lifting weights, as opposed to MMA fighters who strike and grapple 5-6 days a week. It's pure ego that makes them write checks their asses can't cash.
They're also stupid. This is something Dr. Mike , a doctor and bodybuilder attests to and explains. The effect of muscle growth enhancing PEDs literally makes you stupider when cycling mid to high.
They can't do too much cardio because it will make them lose muscle mass. It doesn't have anything to do with ego, it's just how their competition works. Halfthor Bjornsson for instance, lost 50 kgs to fight Eddie Hall. He's a strongman instead of bodybuilder but it's the same principle - you need as much muscle as possible for lifting heavy weights and you can't achieve that by doing the amount of cardio needed for competing in a combat sports fight. You'll also get tired faster if you're too heavy and have too much muscle(muscle consumes a lot of energy and moving around with all that weight will tire you fast).
I used to do nightclub security on the jersey shore. At that time I was 6'1 285lbs. I played football. Wrestled and threw shotput. I'd have to break up fights and throw out meatheads and while they looked big I can only recall 1 time where I was overpowered. In that instance I just slipped under the guys arm and took his back. We went down and I locked him up and another bouncer came and we got him out. As I'd like to say a lot of them had popcorn muscles.
Always when the street fight happens. They say, they didn't get to train when they lose. That's what street fighting is, unexpected fights. And they brag about streetfight... Nobody trains for that, unless you train every day for a fight. Training with weights is different, than training to fight....
I'll play devil's advocate: Mariusz Pudzianowski wasnt delusional or anything. He was always humble, down to earth guy. He got into MMA in his 30's, long after his prime years. Also, he never was a body builder - he was a strongman which is something completely different.So yeah, overall he was always great and respected guy and after all those years people in Poland still love him.
Indeed, he shouldn't have been in this list. Also, "Thor" learned something, Really absurd is the Brad-shithead and the arab guy in Germany - we should deport this mad idiot!
Cardio is the most important thing in fighting. Being very bulky and muscular means your body needs more oxygen. Having a lean light strong body is more beneficial.
I'm 5ft 8 and was doing Ju Jitsu for 6 months when i invited my 6 1 friend to come to class with me. Now he never said he would kick my ass, nor did i expect to kick his ass, but just 6 months worth of training and experience on him and i was able to throw him around at will!!! And I think that surprised us both 😂
Nah, technique matters most and a small guy has way better agility and lower center of gravity to leverage Smaller guys fcked me up many times and they were barely better than me
@@fluffylittlebear Height and weight gives you the edge. If you're just tall the shorter guy is gonna mess you up. They can easily close the gap and now the height is irrelevant. Now it's a matter of weight and without that you're toast.
Agreed. Strongman competitors and bodybuilders are very different beasts. He also doesn't go around saying he would beat any fighter because of his size and strength, just that one time with McGregor. It's like they want us to forget that he actually did some training in boxing to prepare for his fight with Eddie Hall. Not the greatest fight ever, but more than the vast majority of wannabes on the internet lol
We hat hafthor sparring connor mcgregor and he needet to go Software on him while connor is one of the best and hafthor is a super casual We hat eddie hall 1 vs 2 against pro Fighter and he won with ease
I had 20 years traditional karate experience and competition fighting, boxing experience, a little jujitsu experience and I got to play with a guy who had some real wrestling skills (very unusual in the UK). He tied me up in seconds 🤣 I swear at one point he had me put myself in my own headlock.... Very humbling and VERY exhausting!
Basically this! Also been doing MA my whole life and in my late 20's met some Brazilian JiuJitsu crew. Got curious about seeing it for myself, since i never actually was on the matt with Brazilian JJ. 2 Mins later i knew why my trainer always told me, to avoid BJJ dudes. If you're not used to actually full on wrestling, a grappler will have a field day with you, no matter where you're from. Never got my sorry posterior whooped so hard in my life! :D
I was a decent wrestler through high school. I wrestled a guy who was a few years younger, a few lbs heavier, and was an internationally competitive wrestler. He twisted me up quickly. My ego was spared by being the longest to avoid tapping in our military unit, despite being the oldest and smallest.
@@joeyramnarine214 just like if that MMA fighta faces off with a marine in full equipment and armed, his MMA trooning would mean jack sh*** and he'd be shot to death in 0.01 seconds. It's all about the tools.
@@joeyramnarine214 Not true, it was mostly for Mariusz size and strenght that he managed to compete in MMA. Muscles don't matter as much as skill, but being world strongest man gives you huge advantage
@@0Turbox In bjj i've always wondered.. Like, they dont know any submissions. What's their plan to make the smaller person tap? Like get someone untrained to mount someone who has training, and what is the move the bigger person is going to gravitate towards? It's literally the safest place to be, because they are less likely to give you a spazzy knee to the face lmao.
@@0Turboxi just watched a video of mighty mouse pinning someone who was 245 and had a foot on him. idk man. and this dude was a brown belt. might mouse folds him literally
@@qracer5708 it takes a TON of energy to keep that much size functioning. This is what these guys don't understand, imo. It's why the cardio is so hard. Heck, look at Brock Lesnar's career. The longer he had to go, there was a very real dropoff after the first 8-10 minutes. He was a UFC champ.
If you're fighting against average untrained guys it helps a lot. Problem with that is you never know for sure who has training and who doesn't unless you know them personally so it's best to be diplomatic when you can.
@@islander1 I don't think Brock is a fair example, that's just how it is in the heavyweight division, they all gas out in the 2nd or 3rd round, not just Brock.
@@islander1 Good key point to bring to the table, cardio/endurance is vital in any fighting sport, the moment you gas out you are just a standing target.
When I started boxing I had to spar with a guy that was 150lbs and one fight away from going pro I was around 210-215 lbs. He was a beast and...My friend was over 300lbs laughed at me for saying that the 150lb guy was a hand full. Well they took it to the ring one day after training and the 150lb guy beat the crap out of my friend. It was so bad he had my friend spinning around the ring like a top. And both of us were in training about 3-6 months in. People don't understand a person who can box will absolutely destroy someone bigger then them that isn't a trained boxer. Unless you get a lucky shot in which is most likely not going to happen since the boxer dodges punches from other experienced boxers and can read body language. Plus a boxer can take a hit way better then most average joes
of course, they do that for living. But to say that muscles have no sway in combat at all is simply unreasonable. Put two guys who know nothing of fighting, but one of them is in a good physical condition, while the other is not. Who will have better odds of "winning"?
@misanthrophex You are correct, and strength is a factor in combat, the argument here is that training is a bigger factor than strength, ideally you'd have both though.
9:24 'he's good but I am better' .. because I blocked his punches with my face and I squeezed his elbow with my chin while he was choking me. also I have zero stamina, which makes me the clear winner after losing zero to two.
Best way I heard it described was by Bas Rutten: "It's like if I go up to an NBA player, who does that for a living, and think I'll win against him shooting hoops. Ofc I'm not! He's training that each day, every day! And it's the same with professional fighters. You're not going to win."
@@qracer5708 country boy here and yes we are. we aint got the technic but where born tuff i laugh at gym dudes and openly mock them to come hay carting
I grew up near a family friends dairy farm. Every weekend and every day off including most of the summer I worked there. I was about 8 when I started and only stopped years later when they had to sell due to bad water. My family is blue collar. My grandfather also started teaching me how to be a laborer around 7 or 8 and I also worked with him up until I left for the army at 18. I was a union laborer in my home town for 5 years too. I speak from real life experience. I'm not a braggart but at 45 I'm still in top shape and know I could work most 20 year olds into the ground.......except maybe a farm kid.... 😆
An experienced wrestler, boxer, muay thai, BJJ, or anyone who is an experienced fighter will almost always win against an untrained bodybuilder, not saying muscle or weight doesn't matter, but lets be honest
9:00 This is exactly what we’ve been telling you 😂 his excuse is the same reason we tell him he won’t win 🤦🏽♂️ the mental gymnastics you have to do in order to convince yourself that that excuse is valid is actually crazy. Idk why but this just reminds me of people mating themselves in chess
I think something people underestimate about being in a fight is the reaction you have to being hit hard, a leg kick, a shot to the rib/liver/kidney/spleen, having a kick checked or being hit in the face. these guys have trained that reaction out of themselves and you cant just "push" or "man up" through that pain.
Saw a video of Magnus Mitbo take a leg kick at 1/3 power from a trained MMA fighter and he was stunned at how much it hurt. The level of difference between pro and “I think I’m tough” is light years apart. Not sure why people don’t seem to get that despite the world of examples available to see. I’m a fairly good tennis player. I could probably beat 90% of the people on the planet in a match. But, I couldn’t even make a college team these days. Hell, most #1 high schoolers would beat me. It’s the same in any sport. Ability in one sport almost never transfers to another one.
0:19 none of that matters when facing a body builder. A fight largely comes down to physics, they tend to be top heavy and easily thrown off balance. They are slower. And more importantly, they dont physically have the flexibility or range of motion after putting on all that muscle to throw an effective strike or properly form a submition.
@ ok, I drink a lot! The last comment I posted was about him secretly wanting to be manhandled by smaller men. Personally, I think muscles can be a weapon in fighting (Sean Sherk in the UFC) in the first few minutes. Especially wrestlers. But, muscles eat oxygen so eventually they will gas and be worthless.
@@McALEERMEDIA think what you want, I know what I've done and haven't done. No skin off my ego if some random commenter doesn't understand physics or the human body.
@bobhopman4648 you have never rolled before on the mats. I remember being a 21 year old getting tapped by a 18year old female blue belt. You talk about physics do yourself a favor and pop into your local gym that has BJJ lessons and just sit as a spectator and then come tell us all about how a big person can be choked by somebody far smaller
@McALEERMEDIA actually I started boxing at 11, went on to kick boxing, grappling, and then BJJ and MMA classes throughout highschool as well as highschool wrestling. I literally have weeks worth of hours on the matts. And starting in adult classes at the age of 11 meant that almost all of my opponents were bigger than me until I was about 16. Do yourself a favor and don't speak about things you don't know about.
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@ No, I know the match you're talking about at IBJJF Worlds lol. I was there. What I'm saying is you were just referring to "high level jiu jitsu guy". Is that Gordon Ryan? Is that someone else?
1:07 when the guy says hes been in street fights, it shows that the other guy hasn't been in them. Or not, he would've said something to respond to that. Bodybuilder would have said he's been in street fights too.
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Comparing Gordon Ryan and Connor is kind of silly though. Ryan is a big guy with steroids coming out of his ears. Connor isnt nearly as big and at some point you cant deny size.
The hate is due to body builders spouting off how they can beat pro fighters in fighting, despite having no fighting training. It's dumb and obnoxious. There are a lot of videos here on YT and elsewhere, which spotlight some muscle boy getting his ass handed to them by someone much slighter. But still the BB's spout off real fighters all the time.
As a wrestler I go to the gym and see big guys, they're all really nice, there is no animosity between grapplers and body builders, of course there are numpties in all communities, but that's despite they're part of that specific community not because of it
I lift and lift heavy as a powerlifter, I could literally take you at any lift you care to try but I'm not stupid enough to think I could take you at the sport you train daily at, I'm big, I'm strong, I look big and strong but I'm under no illusion that it equates to fighting talent!!!! My mate recons i should go train bjj with him and recons I'd be an absolute monster with a few years under my belt but if I took time away from lifting to put the hours into bjj I'd also be weaker, catch 22, I have nothing but respect for the mma/wrestlers/bjj/boxers etc and no way am I going to try them at their own game!!!!
@@garybailey1602 with training I'm sure you would do well, powerlifting transfers over to grappling really well, so ur starting point would be epic, I always say keep moving and enjoy what you do, don't be an arsehole and try to help others.
@salmirza yep, I'm nearly 50 though so probably a little old to have some 21 year old hanging off my neck 😂 I don't fancy being slammed either!!!! I'm quite well known in the gym for helping everyone out, despite my size and mean look I'm actually a very helpful happy guy 😂
Every fighter is a body builder, not every bodybuilder is a fighter. I promise you that lifting weights helps you fight more than if you didn’t lift at all.
Hard disagree. They work against you. They’d help against amateurs but against the guys working out the correct muscles the correct way…If body builders had a superior body type then the best would all go for that. I’m speaking about on the pro level. Also there’s vids of tiny purple belt chix handling huge guys..lactic acid turns them into immobile morons..
The reason weight classes exist in pro and amateur matches is because, at least theoretically, they are two similarly skilled/trained fighters so the size is an advantage. Against someone with no training your size doesn’t matter much
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I train scince i am a little kid and i can say, that strength and size is a multiplier of skill. Truth is that a 60kg guy wont do much against a 100kg guy. In a street fight a 100kg guy can slam u and good luck getting up, but if a 100kg slams a 80kg fighter, then the chances are better. You will always need strength and size when you fight and that is a fact. Any of you that disagree did never fight
oh, you mean like Bas Rutten feeling proud of kicking a dog, or Conor McGregor beating up elders or Ronda Rousey still in denial about her losses to Holm and Nunez after a whole fn decade ... or maybe Royce tapping out people whom he knew well beforehand had zero grappling skill ... don't be such ann entitled hypocrite, believe it or not, far more people hate mma guys than support them, as they should and for good reason
If you watched the video, he goes on to talk about his wins in Poland and also plays a clip of Mariusz himself poking fun at the fact that Tim Sylvia welcomed him to mma fighting lol
You’re delusional to think Hafthor couldn’t just grab any fighter’s skull while in mount and slam you into the afterlife😂 400 lbs aint easy for anyone unless there’s strict rules
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you cant really boost your confidence , you either have it or you dont , confidence is basically how you think of yourself , if you are good at something or got something going on with your life you know it ,you will be confident , otherwise you`re faking it and lying to youself
@brianfp8081 like I said all optimizing your diet can do is maximize the production your gonadotropin allows, without the signal there is no production. Furthermore actual testosterone ingested orally is broken down by the liver this is why exogenous supplementation is injected to bypass the liver. Obviously good diet will get you at 100% of what your production is capable of, instead of say 60% with a poorer diet, this isn't exactly a boost it is just optimal production. The effects of phytoestrogens have been blown way out of proportion and multiple studies show the effects on the human body are not within a range that would noticeably affect your health, this was however quite a large subject of debate for quite a few years.
@brianfp8081 however upon rereading your reply we are actually in agreement about maximizing the production your body is capable of, it's just that I wouldn't call it a boost as it will not work to increase low levels due to gonadal or signaling issues.
look at it from this perspective: does a bear know any MMA? Would you fight a bear, and if not: why not? There are certain thresholds of size and power that make all the technique irrelevant. Of course on average a pro fighter will win, but to think that size has got nothing to do is silly. I mean there's a reason why there are weight classes...
@@misanthrophex not a great example because a bear has deadly weapons integrated into its body, we don't (not really anyway). Size matters but cardio fitness and skills matter more.
Let's not forget the time when the eddie "the beast" was destroyed by tom aspinall, with like 60 kg weight difference between them. And Hall its not some guy, he lifted 500 kilos in deadlift and he is learning mma. He is one of the strongest guys in the planet, and aspinall is probably the HW future goat.
I’m a big muscled up guy, also been training jiujitsu for 20 years now. I love it when I walk into a new gym and you see the ones who have a prejudice of the big dudes get keyed up. Makes them try harder.
The boxer would hit him so fast so many times , that if he took the first punch which could KO him then the next 15 he would see or remember until he watches the replay, and go oh shit until you spar then you see the speed and it gets better with levels of fighters
"This guy won because he's been training his whole life" yeah no shit... that's the point lol
"I didn't have time to train". Last time I checked, there are 24 hours in a day and it's the same for everyone no matter who you are.
Exactly, like WTF 🤣
@@heraclitus6100 No time for training if you waste your time talking :D
As if he didn't train himself his whole life to be as muscled as he is. What a poor excuse for sure
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Nate Diaz saying "ya won't" has lived rent free in my head since that clip came out
Nate diaz is a 170 lbs chicken
Hehe that had me howlin😂😂😂
Said it with a little femininity…
…”Ya won’t”😂😂😂
1,000%
Saying "rent free" has lived rent free in your rent free head for years. Have an original thought
@RustyShackleford-p3i don't be such a sour puss. Its fnny regardless of its originality.
"I needed time to train, he trained his whole life"
Yeah man, that's exactly the point.
I died laughing at that point 🤣
That guy is a tool power ranger😅
No excuses. Shouldv'e trained. 😂😂😂
He said it with such...conviction too. Are his brains made of melting ice cream?
Yes he admitted he overestimated himself that experience skill and technique beat his strength.
my older brother was like this. 6'4, steroids, built like a brick shithouse, cocky, arrogant, always thought he was the toughest guy in the room. it's insecurity, you know? he had he no self-esteem, he was scared all the time, so he lifted weights to intimidate people. he loved being a bully and intimidating regular people.
once, in a bar, i saw a guy refuse to fight him and back down because he said "buddy, i just feel bad for you, and i'm not going to fight you over something dumb like this." my brother was a lot bigger than him, and he went away cocky, like "yeah, who's the man?"
later the bartender told us later it was Jason Reinhardt, the pro MMA fighter from Decatur (we live in Chicago). he could have mopped the floor with my brother, but he didn't. he was the bigger man.
muscles don't mean anything if you aren't prepped for the front lines. fighting is scary. fighting hurts. lifting weights doesn't prepare you for the battle.
One day, your brother is going to learn the hard way that all the muscle in the world doesn't make you bulletproof.
Reinhardt was the bigger man but he may also have been subject to a lot more legal liability.
i hope your brother heals
Was in the USAF and was friends with this body builder, big dude. One day he picked a fight in a bar and the guy punched him in the chin and it was lights out. All those big muscles won't do a thing when you are asleep. From then on, we nicknamed him glassjaw. He hated it but we got a good laugh out of it.
@@tda0626 cool story bro
"If I trained I would have won." Yeah. And if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle. 🙄😃
Well ...not according to current logic. Your uncle can self identify as your Aunt.
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I dont do if but or maybe. I deal in absolutes
If my grandma had wheels, she would be a bicycle
@@cloneboy28don’t know why I found that so funny lol
It's like a 747 saying "Look at my wingspan, you could never take me down" to an F-35
Perfect example!!
lol it really is
Such a good example tbh
100%. Body builders dont have any stamina. You just jump around them and they are already heavy breathing.
@@categoricamente1753yea larger muscles require more energy maybe if you trained you could focus all your strength into one perfectly placed power shot but that’s the only way.
Cardio is also extremely important. Gassing out is death in a fight
watching him completely gasping after *seconds* of jiu jitsui
That but also being able to handle punishment. As kickboxer, we fighters get hit, a lot... bodybuilders don't. Normal people go KO from hits we take during sparring sessions. I had a friend join me in kickbox training, he ended up vomiting from exhaustion, and it was only ~10 mins of the hour we train. He never talked crap after that 🤣
@@ideamonkey. Wrestling and Jiujitsu take a ton of stamina.
@@robertt9342 oh yeah, for sure. Yet another way that thinking size alone can win a fight is just delusional.
@@robertt9342 there’s a whole different level of that kind of stamina, functionally speaking, when you’re also getting hit.
7:29 a 0-2 pro fighting record is still two more fights than 99% of all humans will ever participate in.
you mean "more pro fights"
Atleast Marius fought real fighters and got into real fights against fighters his size.. props to him
he shouldnt really be in this video if I'm being honest
And won
@@qracer5708 at all. First of all a strongman is a lot more functional than a body builder to begin with. Second of all he actually trained and took real fights. Just dumb to include him. kinna discredits the entire video
Hafthor is a dumb inclusion as well. Strong men are not body builders lol. And grappling is not a fight so the Gordon Ryan example while rolling jits is pointless. if Thor was on top of Ryan in a real fight it would be pain and death
Yeah, honestly, he ain't bad. He was humble and respects the art. And he actually gave it an honest go. I'm happy for him
"You a podcaster brother"😂
Jeez thanks for the likes guys 😂
He definitely casted that guy’s pods 😂
That is the coldest fact ever.
He was trying so hard to be nice about it lol
“Hehehehe” 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂
Bradley thinks that no rules would help him in a fight when, in reality, it would be a massive advantage to UFC fighters. The reason UFC and fighters in general have rules is because they don't want to kill each other.
Amen
@@AlbertSpice sorry,,,not true....,,their mind is trained,,conditioned to do certain things,including to NOT DO certain moves...
@@nofilter.906 you might have brain damage
@@carsormyr brain damage is what practicing fighters get when facing an experienced brawler,,,,go watch kots....that's real fighting,,,,,,above your level I bet.
@@carsormyr he has a point tho. i mean, not against body builders, but people used to fight with no rules can beat these fighters. I've seen a channel put all types of martial artists and one "regular joe" in a "realistic bar fight scenario" and the regular joe did by FAR the best. it's titled 6 Martial Artists Try to Survive a Bar Fight
Who would have thought that picking up heavy things and putting them down again will only make you good at picking heavy things up and putting them down again.
Love it 😂
I mean it still will give you the edge over people with similar fight training. Most street fights are over within a minute, it's explosive anerobic power. A strong guy throwing even a decent punch is gonna be dangerous anyway.
Brother, I saw Scott Lawton sparring Eddie Hall after Lawton lost to skinny teenager Amir Khan and Hall couldnt even throw a punch, Lawton was popping him with light punches and Hall was nearly crying, Thor almost got knocked out by a punch from.a boxer half his size while prepareing for Hall
It makes you better at everything. That is why basically all athletes in all sports does or atleast should do some weight training.
@@henrikpersson488no, they do some weight training to gain muscle , they focus much more on technique, cardio etc.
" You're a pod caster brother." - Nate Diaz
Best line
“Ya wont” 😂
Best line ever
Meanwhile he lost a fight against a youtuber.
@@Jozua86to be fair to Nate, he is out of prime and Jake Paul has been training boxing and they fought as boxers
A street fight IS actually a ufc fighters heaven
The eye pokes and groin kicks would go hard
Umm no it isn't....unless it's with a soft individual .When actual crimes and ugly fights occur it's not cool dude. These ufc fighters aren't super heroes. They ain't cut like that and many of them haven't seen true uglyness in fights where they have to fend for their lives...they are used to controlled environments.
@@Johnny.G.Bro has never taken a leg kick 😂😂😂
Not really, street fights are unfair. UFC guys could end up in a body bag thinking that their "rules" or "honor" means anything in the street..
All fighting is bad. The reason all the combat sports guys tell you to avoid every fight you possibly can isn't because street fights are extra deadly or that you have to worry about somebody's friends or Schroeder's knives. It's because they're struggling to articulate the thought to you in the first place through all of the accumulated brain trauma and they don't want anyone to have to go through that. Every punch you take takes something from you and you never quite get it back. And that's just the penalty for winning.
Cauliflower ear and crooked noses are red flags that you want to avoid fights with that person. 😂
Ye, I'm glad he went so easy on him.
There is a cop video of a fighter going into a Rage and one of the cops says look at his cauliflower ear dude we are going to need more backup
True been in alot of fights never lost, but I never fight men between 17-60
@@78mattyeah I only fight men that are 6-10
I'm surprised that hasn't become popular and there aren't plastic surgeons out there doing that to people that want to look that way to be tough since their tattoos aren't working anymore.
(11:48) Pudzianowski has no problem admitting his own mistake and lack of understanding with humor. A great guy!
That why I love polish people, best Europeans
People sleep on Schaub because he's goofy, but he would kill Bradley in a streetfight!
He would annihilate Bradley
Agreed. I don't like schaub but he would destroy Bradley. Also he's correct that mighty mouse would wreck him too
Schaub is a clown, but against Bradley it's like pennywise clown type
He also knows what it’s like to be the biggest guy in the room when he trains, so along with every other big dude that has trained, he knows what a skilled small guy can do from personal experience. Those small guys spend all day sparring big dudes.
with his bad comedy or his skill? either way you're right
Mariusz Pudzianowski actually trained hard in mma and had a pretty good record and beat some legit fighters.
He could fight as well though
Mariusz was just on another level for real
Yeah, though he was fighting profesionally for over 15 years. At that point are you a bodybuilder or a fighter first?
@shko-mi seems that he found trainers that were able to give him the body builder big pumped up muscle look along with working on oxygen retention and development of fast twitch muscles. I know I'm not saying it correctly but hopefully you know what I mean
@@shko-mi he wasnt bodybuilder, first he was strongman and won world strongest man 5 times and then he switched career to mma. Also as strongman he was the ONLY guy who did his cardio, other guys could lift more but nobody could lift longer than Mariusz and he always did more reps
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Theres people who think that because pro fighters fight under rules that the rules benefit them. In actuality, if you give a pro fighter no rules or restrictions, that actually makes them stronger and more likely to permanently injure an opponent.
Exactly what i thought as well. Some people think that professional fighters' capabilities and skills are limited only to the rules, while in reality the rules are the only things keeping them from going all out with their skills.
It's like in mma or boxing where you're not allowed to hit the back of the head. And then people think that because they follow this rule in the ring, they would also follow it in the street. That's nonesense because they would definitely not care about rules in street situation. If anything that would be an opportinuty for them to be "illegal".
Many people think they know about things they know very little about. Even just watching MMA people think they know something about it and picture themselves wrestling someone down to the ground or even kicking someone in the head 😂. They’ve probably never had someone put their hands on them out of anger since high school. They know zero about the cardio required for grappling and that arm bars and other locks are meant to break bones and joints. A 5’ 7” trained fighter is either going to make him think he took them down and then break your arm or he’s going to hit you with a snappy upper cut inside the big dudes reach that breaks his jaw or he’s going to blow his knee out with what would be an illegal kick in a sanctioned fight.
"Time to train"... yeah, dude, that's the fucking point. 🤣🤣
lol the gymbro that said that literally does nothing but "train" for his social media following and trash talking
lol that was what I said verbatim when I heard that hair brained utterance…
imagine that guy in an actual street fight .. " just wait bro, i gotta practice a bit.."
From the time you are conscious and can make decisions, you can train. Didn't have time to train... Make the time cause making excuses is pathetic.
Yeah that level of stupidity is not even funny anymore. Sometimes, although I do not want to be mean or arrogant, sometimes it feels like some people are closer to a shimpanzee, then they are to me, in terms of intelect. Imagine how painful it must be for people like Einstein, to walk this earth :D
You said it perfectly, many mention a "street fight" as if a UFC fighter would freeze with no rules involved. They can beat their opponents WITH rules, imagine what they could do with no rules to follow
the thing is that the MMA fighters are unlikely to try doing stuff which are dirty and illegal unless If they have also undertaken some self defense( like krav maga) classes as well.
They actually tend to fair poorly in such contexts. UFC is a contact sport, not violence. That said, they are miles better prepared than someone with no experience with either, as contact sport has a lot more transfer than bodybuilding.
@@NevisYsbryd buddy WTF is this drivel you're spewing???
@@528grave Information from someone who has researched this exact topic.
Real world violence rarely involves much pugilism in the first place, let alone gloves/wraps that protect your hands, padded mats, or a certainty of squaring off a single assailant. Most real violence involves weapons, with environmental obstructions and hazards, an uncertainty in number of assailants, and most are either ambushes or from kin or family and thus generally when either their perception, response time, or emotional state are pre-compromised. Most contact sport athletes (including UFC) are trained only in the pugilism and wrestling skills involved in real violence, which are proportionally the least used or important.
@@NevisYsbryd research? ok buddy.
The rubber actually meets the road somewhere. You cant 'research' this and consider yourself an expert on the topic by reading a book ... reality is even BJJ expertise can stack up against krag magra ... i dont care how many guys you have , you dont fuck with jon jones i.e ... guns no guns, numbers no numbers ... 99/100 scenarios it will not go well for you
"You a podcaster brother" followed by a Mike Tyson laugh😂
Ya won't
Hehehehehehh 🍃
Marius shouldn't be here.
1. He isn't a bodybuilder but a strongman.
2. He did train martial arts.
3. He'd demolish bodybuilders even if he didn't train MMA.
4. He isn't delusional because he put in the work before stepping in there.
5. This video isn't about less trained vs more trained fighters.
6. He's had 27 fights. You say lesser opponent but all those "lesser competition" are all trained fighters who would destroy all the other guys on this video.
7. Are you implying all the other people he beat are not fighters?
Yeah, at that point this video turned into cope and jealousy almost.
i agree, respect for him he’s the only guy to actually fight
He’s literally contradicting himself with this example.
Because Mariusz is the strongman and the fighter that looks like a pure bodybuilder. 😅
mariuzs shouldnt be here, that pissed me actualy🙋
You be actually suprised how bad a normal dude fights, they throw the same style of punch they did when they were small children.
That's how fighters think,,,,,they think that if you dont practice a skill like they do,YOU COULDN'T POSSIBLY BEAT THEM...
Who teaches them to think that way?
@@nofilter.906if youre worse at something you cant win thats life
@@nofilter.906 Bro how would they? Have you ever even fought yourself?
@az1m8290 not entirely true,,,,your thinking is,IF I PRACTICE SHOOTING FREE THROWS DAILY,FOR WEEKS,,MONTHS,EVEN YEARS,,,SO,EVERY TIME I SHOOT A FREE THROW, ILL ALWAYS MAKE IT..EVERYTIME.....flawed thinking, delusional aswell
@h0zteri69 maybe your missing my point,,,,I'm talking about the overconfidence and delusional way of thinking that those that practice at fighting have...they have a thinking of,,,I PRACTICE HOW TO FIGHT,SO I CAN BEAT ANYBODY WHO DOESN'T PRACTICE,,,,,,NOT TRUE.........and I've been in many fights against those that practice fighting,,,BEAT EVERYONE.
Body builders have two incredible disadvantages that their egos overlook. First, they don't to much cardio, so they will gas after 30 seconds. Second, their only training is lifting weights, as opposed to MMA fighters who strike and grapple 5-6 days a week. It's pure ego that makes them write checks their asses can't cash.
They're also stupid. This is something Dr. Mike , a doctor and bodybuilder attests to and explains. The effect of muscle growth enhancing PEDs literally makes you stupider when cycling mid to high.
They can't do too much cardio because it will make them lose muscle mass. It doesn't have anything to do with ego, it's just how their competition works.
Halfthor Bjornsson for instance, lost 50 kgs to fight Eddie Hall. He's a strongman instead of bodybuilder but it's the same principle - you need as much muscle as possible for lifting heavy weights and you can't achieve that by doing the amount of cardio needed for competing in a combat sports fight. You'll also get tired faster if you're too heavy and have too much muscle(muscle consumes a lot of energy and moving around with all that weight will tire you fast).
I used to do nightclub security on the jersey shore. At that time I was 6'1 285lbs. I played football. Wrestled and threw shotput. I'd have to break up fights and throw out meatheads and while they looked big I can only recall 1 time where I was overpowered. In that instance I just slipped under the guys arm and took his back. We went down and I locked him up and another bouncer came and we got him out. As I'd like to say a lot of them had popcorn muscles.
Also a lack of flexibility
too*
“ I think I might be able to get ya”. “Ya won’t”. 😂😂😂
7:07 He said if he had time to train he would have won. He's been training his whole life, he just always skips brain-day.
9:10 yeah you need to train like 15 years
I love how he says he needs training as if that isn't the whole reason for the fighter vs body builder debate
Always when the street fight happens. They say, they didn't get to train when they lose.
That's what street fighting is, unexpected fights. And they brag about streetfight...
Nobody trains for that, unless you train every day for a fight.
Training with weights is different, than training to fight....
Thor and Gordon is like comparing someone who is 7'7 but never played basketball to LeBron James.
Agreed. Also after, Thor trained in boxing and did some exhibition boxing events
basketball is a game, fighting isn't, lame ass comparison
@@SINdaBlock411 Completely missed the point of the comparison. Sit down and listen when adults speak, kiddo.
@@dg1431 no, that is a lame ass comparison. These things don't compare like that, at all.
@dg1431 aight boomer lol
2:30 "at the peak of Mount Stupid" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🙌🏻🙌🏻
"See, what I had said was..." 🤣 Mike Tyson said it best, "Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face."
Wow so wise I’ve never heard that before
@@DrOrrLol 🤣 Tyson Didn't actually pen that saying 💯🕊️
I'll play devil's advocate: Mariusz Pudzianowski wasnt delusional or anything. He was always humble, down to earth guy. He got into MMA in his 30's, long after his prime years. Also, he never was a body builder - he was a strongman which is something completely different.So yeah, overall he was always great and respected guy and after all those years people in Poland still love him.
Indeed, he shouldn't have been in this list. Also, "Thor" learned something, Really absurd is the Brad-shithead and the arab guy in Germany - we should deport this mad idiot!
yep
Also a legitimate fighter (no not the greatest of all time, but good, and he would easily beat 99.9999% of all humans ever
Cardio is the most important thing in fighting. Being very bulky and muscular means your body needs more oxygen. Having a lean light strong body is more beneficial.
if you got weak lungs
@@MrArgman No
@@toysoldier7541 knowing how to fight is the most important thing about fighting.
@ uhh yeah I’m assuming both fighter can fight.
@@toysoldier7541nah most people
Can’t really fight if you are fighting a trained fighter they know how and where to hit you size means zip
“i didnt have time to train” THATS THE WHOLE POINT, being 2x bigger than someone who is trained, you lose
I'm 5ft 8 and was doing Ju Jitsu for 6 months when i invited my 6 1 friend to come to class with me. Now he never said he would kick my ass, nor did i expect to kick his ass, but just 6 months worth of training and experience on him and i was able to throw him around at will!!! And I think that surprised us both 😂
Height isn't an advantage within itself. What were both your weights and body types? If you were 50lbs lighter then that would also be impressive
@DevZuelo It actually is though. Height = reach and leverage. It's almost always an advantage in a fight.
Nah, technique matters most and a small guy has way better agility and lower center of gravity to leverage
Smaller guys fcked me up many times and they were barely better than me
Nice made up story
@@fluffylittlebear
Height and weight gives you the edge. If you're just tall the shorter guy is gonna mess you up. They can easily close the gap and now the height is irrelevant. Now it's a matter of weight and without that you're toast.
putting Thor Bjornsson in the intro so many times as a "body builder" is crazy
Exactly haha - also a bit disrespectful to say that all bodybuilders have ego
Agreed. Strongman competitors and bodybuilders are very different beasts. He also doesn't go around saying he would beat any fighter because of his size and strength, just that one time with McGregor. It's like they want us to forget that he actually did some training in boxing to prepare for his fight with Eddie Hall. Not the greatest fight ever, but more than the vast majority of wannabes on the internet lol
We hat hafthor sparring connor mcgregor and he needet to go Software on him while connor is one of the best and hafthor is a super casual
We hat eddie hall 1 vs 2 against pro Fighter and he won with ease
The reality is that hafthor could literally squash a good portion of
Strongmen are bodybuilders who like to drink beer and eat whatever they want.
I had 20 years traditional karate experience and competition fighting, boxing experience, a little jujitsu experience and I got to play with a guy who had some real wrestling skills (very unusual in the UK). He tied me up in seconds 🤣 I swear at one point he had me put myself in my own headlock.... Very humbling and VERY exhausting!
Basically this! Also been doing MA my whole life and in my late 20's met some Brazilian JiuJitsu crew. Got curious about seeing it for myself, since i never actually was on the matt with Brazilian JJ. 2 Mins later i knew why my trainer always told me, to avoid BJJ dudes. If you're not used to actually full on wrestling, a grappler will have a field day with you, no matter where you're from. Never got my sorry posterior whooped so hard in my life! :D
Karate just like aikido is dancing. I am not putting exercise down.
I was a decent wrestler through high school. I wrestled a guy who was a few years younger, a few lbs heavier, and was an internationally competitive wrestler.
He twisted me up quickly. My ego was spared by being the longest to avoid tapping in our military unit, despite being the oldest and smallest.
💩and i had 125571 years to💩 and wrestling is so FAKEEEEEEEEEEE
10:29 Mariusz is no joke. He's not just "some bodybuilder." He is multiple time World Strongest Man.
He literally mentioned that
But as u can see in MMA that matters this 🤏 much
@@joeyramnarine214 just like if that MMA fighta faces off with a marine in full equipment and armed, his MMA trooning would mean jack sh*** and he'd be shot to death in 0.01 seconds. It's all about the tools.
@@joeyramnarine214 Not true, it was mostly for Mariusz size and strenght that he managed to compete in MMA. Muscles don't matter as much as skill, but being world strongest man gives you huge advantage
@@joeyramnarine214 Yeah, his 17 wins in proffesional MMA fights also mean nothing....
I'd love to see Mighty Mouse shred Martin's ego.
And I believe, Martin would have a chance. I think, he would struggle and possible lose against a 150 pdr and above.
mighty mouse would get popped like a zit
It wouldn’t be close it would get so bad that you would feel bad for Martin getting the shit beat of him by a guy 200lbs less
@@0Turbox In bjj i've always wondered.. Like, they dont know any submissions.
What's their plan to make the smaller person tap?
Like get someone untrained to mount someone who has training, and what is the move the bigger person is going to gravitate towards?
It's literally the safest place to be, because they are less likely to give you a spazzy knee to the face lmao.
@@0Turboxi just watched a video of mighty mouse pinning someone who was 245 and had a foot on him. idk man. and this dude was a brown belt. might mouse folds him literally
I know many bodybuilders and I can say most of them don’t think muscle equals winning a fight but it definitely helps
to a point i would say like once you have so much mass you start waddling to walk that's where it goes downhill
@@qracer5708 it takes a TON of energy to keep that much size functioning. This is what these guys don't understand, imo.
It's why the cardio is so hard. Heck, look at Brock Lesnar's career. The longer he had to go, there was a very real dropoff after the first 8-10 minutes. He was a UFC champ.
If you're fighting against average untrained guys it helps a lot. Problem with that is you never know for sure who has training and who doesn't unless you know them personally so it's best to be diplomatic when you can.
@@islander1 I don't think Brock is a fair example, that's just how it is in the heavyweight division, they all gas out in the 2nd or 3rd round, not just Brock.
@@islander1 Good key point to bring to the table, cardio/endurance is vital in any fighting sport, the moment you gas out you are just a standing target.
“This guy has trained his whole life”… yeah.. isn’t that the entire point? lol Proved the entire point
What nuts is how many people out there try to fight UFC guys in the streets. People are so delusional. 😂
The polish guy deserves respect.
1:42 I mean who´s he tryin to fool, its Diaz, ya won´t!
Right?! 😂
Yeah he don’t want that Diaz smoke 😂
Bradley Martin isn't serious. He knows he would lose bad.
No he doesn’t. He’s delusional and only ever tries to fight small guys with no experience. We all know Logan beat his ass though lol.
Yeah I was gonna say he has a good sense of humour about the whole affair
@@TheDannydddnah,I think he's 100% he'd win.
Specific bodybuilders think muscle wins fights. The vast majority do not
"The Peak of Mount Stupid" was amazing LOL!!!
It's an actual scientific term. Taken directly from the Dunning/Kruger curve.
At the very least, the Thor guy was willing to learn.
”the Thor guy” he’s one of, if not the strongest man of all time
@@forsenstunlocked5967 That doesn't necessarily make him a fighter.
@@ministryoftruth8523 I never said that. Just saying that he isn’t just ”some guy”
When I started boxing I had to spar with a guy that was 150lbs and one fight away from going pro I was around 210-215 lbs. He was a beast and...My friend was over 300lbs laughed at me for saying that the 150lb guy was a hand full. Well they took it to the ring one day after training and the 150lb guy beat the crap out of my friend. It was so bad he had my friend spinning around the ring like a top. And both of us were in training about 3-6 months in. People don't understand a person who can box will absolutely destroy someone bigger then them that isn't a trained boxer. Unless you get a lucky shot in which is most likely not going to happen since the boxer dodges punches from other experienced boxers and can read body language. Plus a boxer can take a hit way better then most average joes
Yeah, but you could probably beat that guy without reaching his skill level. Size isn't everything, but it's definitely an advantage.
of course, they do that for living. But to say that muscles have no sway in combat at all is simply unreasonable. Put two guys who know nothing of fighting, but one of them is in a good physical condition, while the other is not. Who will have better odds of "winning"?
Brain injury is key
@misanthrophex You are correct, and strength is a factor in combat, the argument here is that training is a bigger factor than strength, ideally you'd have both though.
@@a123b123c123d123c123 size its an advantage only when you fight someone with a similar skill level
1:30 Nate Diaz "you're a cun- you're a podcaster brother" gets me every time😂
9:24 'he's good but I am better' .. because I blocked his punches with my face and I squeezed his elbow with my chin while he was choking me. also I have zero stamina, which makes me the clear winner after losing zero to two.
Mariusz is a real beast. He transitioned from his sport to ufc and step into the cage even tho he is not young. He did decent against all odds.
Gordon isn’t some small guy he’s 6’2 240lbs. He also is an elite wrestler & BJJ.
I can't believe how tiny he looked rolling with Thor...
Hes a very good wrestler. But he's not elite, elite guys don't get 10-0ed in less than 45 seconds by pat Downey.
@@higharchbishopofteatasting6217ya he’s good at wrestling but not elite that’s for sure
Elite at bjj not so much wrestling
He isnt even remotely elite when it comes to wrestling
People forget the “art” of mixed martial arts. It’s not just strength.
Best way I heard it described was by Bas Rutten: "It's like if I go up to an NBA player, who does that for a living, and think I'll win against him shooting hoops. Ofc I'm not! He's training that each day, every day! And it's the same with professional fighters. You're not going to win."
Ha,ha,ha,ha,,not true,,,,MOST PEOPLE DONT FIGHT FAIR...I sure dont,why would I..
That's not same thing. In fighting size and weight matter a lot. Skill matters a lot too. So it depends.
At this point, people won’t even take it from a professional fighter who has been in street fights.
@masonmorgan6998 PROFESSIONAL FIGHTER???? how many " professional " fighters do you think are out there?.and what makes a person a PROFESSIONAL??
@@nofilter.906 Bas Rutten is definitely a professional, idk what you’re on.
A bodybuilder couldn't beat a farm boy.
farm boys are built different if im being real
@@qracer5708 They are, that's still a bad example
@@qracer5708 country boy here and yes we are. we aint got the technic but where born tuff i laugh at gym dudes and openly mock them to come hay carting
Farm Boys are Strong AF...
I grew up near a family friends dairy farm. Every weekend and every day off including most of the summer I worked there. I was about 8 when I started and only stopped years later when they had to sell due to bad water. My family is blue collar. My grandfather also started teaching me how to be a laborer around 7 or 8 and I also worked with him up until I left for the army at 18. I was a union laborer in my home town for 5 years too. I speak from real life experience. I'm not a braggart but at 45 I'm still in top shape and know I could work most 20 year olds into the ground.......except maybe a farm kid.... 😆
Nah Mariusz Pudzianowski was chill wit it tho like after the fight wit Silva he was like "ok i understand that fighting isn't strength"
Bradley Martin saying he can take down top fighters is like a clapped out civic pulling up to supercars saying he can beat em in a race
Body builders think about how to fight. Fighters plan on how to end it.
An experienced wrestler, boxer, muay thai, BJJ, or anyone who is an experienced fighter will almost always win against an untrained bodybuilder, not saying muscle or weight doesn't matter, but lets be honest
Almost nobody argues this though. The debate is really about amateur mma practioners who think they can destroy guys with 40 lbs of muscle on them.
No it isnt, its about a bodybuilder thinking he can fight better than fighters
"But if you can't fight, you can't fight." No truer words have ever been spoken!
9:00 This is exactly what we’ve been telling you 😂 his excuse is the same reason we tell him he won’t win 🤦🏽♂️ the mental gymnastics you have to do in order to convince yourself that that excuse is valid is actually crazy. Idk why but this just reminds me of people mating themselves in chess
guy says stuff for attention and you act like he really believes it, you're a mark
I think something people underestimate about being in a fight is the reaction you have to being hit hard, a leg kick, a shot to the rib/liver/kidney/spleen, having a kick checked or being hit in the face. these guys have trained that reaction out of themselves and you cant just "push" or "man up" through that pain.
Saw a video of Magnus Mitbo take a leg kick at 1/3 power from a trained MMA fighter and he was stunned at how much it hurt. The level of difference between pro and “I think I’m tough” is light years apart. Not sure why people don’t seem to get that despite the world of examples available to see. I’m a fairly good tennis player. I could probably beat 90% of the people on the planet in a match. But, I couldn’t even make a college team these days. Hell, most #1 high schoolers would beat me. It’s the same in any sport. Ability in one sport almost never transfers to another one.
0:19 none of that matters when facing a body builder. A fight largely comes down to physics, they tend to be top heavy and easily thrown off balance. They are slower. And more importantly, they dont physically have the flexibility or range of motion after putting on all that muscle to throw an effective strike or properly form a submition.
@ ok, I drink a lot! The last comment I posted was about him secretly wanting to be manhandled by smaller men. Personally, I think muscles can be a weapon in fighting (Sean Sherk in the UFC) in the first few minutes. Especially wrestlers. But, muscles eat oxygen so eventually they will gas and be worthless.
Tell me you have never been in a fight your entire life without telling me you have never been in a fight in your entire life
@@McALEERMEDIA think what you want, I know what I've done and haven't done. No skin off my ego if some random commenter doesn't understand physics or the human body.
@bobhopman4648 you have never rolled before on the mats. I remember being a 21 year old getting tapped by a 18year old female blue belt. You talk about physics do yourself a favor and pop into your local gym that has BJJ lessons and just sit as a spectator and then come tell us all about how a big person can be choked by somebody far smaller
@McALEERMEDIA actually I started boxing at 11, went on to kick boxing, grappling, and then BJJ and MMA classes throughout highschool as well as highschool wrestling. I literally have weeks worth of hours on the matts. And starting in adult classes at the age of 11 meant that almost all of my opponents were bigger than me until I was about 16. Do yourself a favor and don't speak about things you don't know about.
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Funny thing is that high level jui jitsu guy is that he would probably get cooked by mighty mouse.
What high level jiu jitsu guy are you referring to? I love Mighty Mouse, but you gotta be realistic...
@ryanholman5794 he beats black belts that are bigger than him. There's footage.
@ No, I know the match you're talking about at IBJJF Worlds lol. I was there. What I'm saying is you were just referring to "high level jiu jitsu guy". Is that Gordon Ryan? Is that someone else?
@ryanholman5794 the guy that cooked Bradley, he was a brown belt.
@ryanholman5794 gordan Ryan wins in jui jitsu but loses in a real fight
If you see a person with an ear like that, you walk away. LOL
Fighting and lifting 500lbs of weights are completely different things.
Weights don't have soft spots.
1:07 when the guy says hes been in street fights, it shows that the other guy hasn't been in them. Or not, he would've said something to respond to that. Bodybuilder would have said he's been in street fights too.
The guy is undisputed champion Devin Haney btw
Respect for Mariusz pudzianowski he walked that walk
You realize most bodybuilders don’t think this right
Well most professional bodybuilders yes, average steroided out gym bro thinks they can take down a shark in the ocean,
When I started mma, I was 6'4 225lbs. My first sparring session was against a woman who was maybe 5'8 145lbs. I thought it was a joke and that i would take it easy on her. She beat the fuck out of me, and I was just surviving in there. Turns out she was a pro bareknuckle fighter. Great woman, great experience for me.
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[13:50] Thor literally looks like a turtle on his back
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when I saw, I saw 👀 🐢
Comparing Gordon Ryan and Connor is kind of silly though. Ryan is a big guy with steroids coming out of his ears. Connor isnt nearly as big and at some point you cant deny size.
Mariusz Pudzianowski took that loss very well haha
I do both Natural Bodybuilding & Combat Sport. I love them both equally. No need to hate each other like that.
The hate only goes one way. You never hear an MMA say to a body builder or strongman that he could beat them at bodybuilding or powerlifting lol.
The hate is due to body builders spouting off how they can beat pro fighters in fighting, despite having no fighting training. It's dumb and obnoxious. There are a lot of videos here on YT and elsewhere, which spotlight some muscle boy getting his ass handed to them by someone much slighter. But still the BB's spout off real fighters all the time.
I wonder how natties would do - I guess your muscles - like those of the boys doing calisthenics - are much more functional than that of 'roid-BBs...
I'll hate anyone I want.🙃
I'll hate anyone I want.🙃
As a wrestler I go to the gym and see big guys, they're all really nice, there is no animosity between grapplers and body builders, of course there are numpties in all communities, but that's despite they're part of that specific community not because of it
I lift and lift heavy as a powerlifter, I could literally take you at any lift you care to try but I'm not stupid enough to think I could take you at the sport you train daily at, I'm big, I'm strong, I look big and strong but I'm under no illusion that it equates to fighting talent!!!! My mate recons i should go train bjj with him and recons I'd be an absolute monster with a few years under my belt but if I took time away from lifting to put the hours into bjj I'd also be weaker, catch 22, I have nothing but respect for the mma/wrestlers/bjj/boxers etc and no way am I going to try them at their own game!!!!
@@garybailey1602 with training I'm sure you would do well, powerlifting transfers over to grappling really well, so ur starting point would be epic, I always say keep moving and enjoy what you do, don't be an arsehole and try to help others.
@salmirza yep, I'm nearly 50 though so probably a little old to have some 21 year old hanging off my neck 😂 I don't fancy being slammed either!!!! I'm quite well known in the gym for helping everyone out, despite my size and mean look I'm actually a very helpful happy guy 😂
That clip of Nate is gold.
It's not just about muscle, it's about strength, endurance and knowing when to rest during the fight.
Every fighter is a body builder, not every bodybuilder is a fighter. I promise you that lifting weights helps you fight more than if you didn’t lift at all.
Bodybuilding doesn't just mean lifting weights...
Hard disagree. They work against you. They’d help against amateurs but against the guys working out the correct muscles the correct way…If body builders had a superior body type then the best would all go for that. I’m speaking about on the pro level. Also there’s vids of tiny purple belt chix handling huge guys..lactic acid turns them into immobile morons..
The reason weight classes exist in pro and amateur matches is because, at least theoretically, they are two similarly skilled/trained fighters so the size is an advantage. Against someone with no training your size doesn’t matter much
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Yeah and then fighter is gonna immediately submit bradly and put him asleep. 😂
I train scince i am a little kid and i can say, that strength and size is a multiplier of skill. Truth is that a 60kg guy wont do much against a 100kg guy. In a street fight a 100kg guy can slam u and good luck getting up, but if a 100kg slams a 80kg fighter, then the chances are better. You will always need strength and size when you fight and that is a fact. Any of you that disagree did never fight
Where are you from? Kazakhstan?
100% true
Did you not watch this video? It just proved you wrong.
@@SM-McKraken no it didnt
So basically you are saying that Ronnie beats rodtang in a fight, correct?
Dude is proud of himself that he is tougher than someone half his size
oh, you mean like Bas Rutten feeling proud of kicking a dog, or Conor McGregor beating up elders or Ronda Rousey still in denial about her losses to Holm and Nunez after a whole fn decade ... or maybe Royce tapping out people whom he knew well beforehand had zero grappling skill ... don't be such ann entitled hypocrite, believe it or not, far more people hate mma guys than support them, as they should and for good reason
@SINdaBlock411 but MMA fighters step in the ring and fight people there own size or bigger. I like the humble UFC/Pride fighters
@@SINdaBlock411 Sit down and listen when adults speak, kiddo.
@dg1431 take your pill gramps lol
@AmericaFirst865 lol no such thing
5:34... Remember when Royce Gracie did that and broke Jason deluca's arm AFTER he tapped like 17 times?
Man I would love to see Demitrius Johnson turn Bradly Martin into a Pretzel. 😂
You put Mariusz Pudzianowski in this vid? This shows that you didn't research anything and just copy paste other videos in the subject.
If you watched the video, he goes on to talk about his wins in Poland and also plays a clip of Mariusz himself poking fun at the fact that Tim Sylvia welcomed him to mma fighting lol
You’re delusional to think Hafthor couldn’t just grab any fighter’s skull while in mount and slam you into the afterlife😂 400 lbs aint easy for anyone unless there’s strict rules
Him in mount? or someone on top of him in mount? You arent getting mount on a black belt if youre untrained no matter how big you are.
You're the delusional one, there's a video of Gordon Ryan, a jiu jitsu world champion, fucking Hafthor up even though Ryan is half his weight.
another thing is that the clip of him sparring is when he lost like 60kg to do boxing
It’s crazy how nobody talks about the book You Are Stronger Than You Think from Cryptic Lore. It’s the only book I’ve found that explains how to naturally boost testosterone and confidence
There are 0 foods that naturally boost testosterone to a level that makes a physiological difference, adequate sleep and diet optimises existing testosterone production according to your level of gonadotropin.
This book sounds like it promotes your capacity for self deception. Which I'm sure will boost your confidence although it might not be worth much if you look at the results in this video.
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This is demonstrably false.
Grass fed red meat will ABSOLUTELY boost testosterone levels, as it contains high levels of zinc, which is VITAL for testosterone production. (not too mention actually containing AT LEAST trace levels of testosterone directly...)
Also, eating refined sugars, starches, simple-chain carbohydrates, and anything phyto-estrogenic will decrease testosterone levels measurably. This includes soy, (especially soy protein isolate), but also wheat grains and dairy.
So this idea that nutrition isn't a factor to be utilized to maximize testosterone production is an unfounded myth, and one that is remarkably easy to disprove...
you cant really boost your confidence , you either have it or you dont , confidence is basically how you think of yourself , if you are good at something or got something going on with your life you know it ,you will be confident , otherwise you`re faking it and lying to youself
@brianfp8081 like I said all optimizing your diet can do is maximize the production your gonadotropin allows, without the signal there is no production. Furthermore actual testosterone ingested orally is broken down by the liver this is why exogenous supplementation is injected to bypass the liver. Obviously good diet will get you at 100% of what your production is capable of, instead of say 60% with a poorer diet, this isn't exactly a boost it is just optimal production. The effects of phytoestrogens have been blown way out of proportion and multiple studies show the effects on the human body are not within a range that would noticeably affect your health, this was however quite a large subject of debate for quite a few years.
@brianfp8081 however upon rereading your reply we are actually in agreement about maximizing the production your body is capable of, it's just that I wouldn't call it a boost as it will not work to increase low levels due to gonadal or signaling issues.
The first thing non-fighters discover is how difficult it is to get punched or kicked and keep fighting through the pain.
The cocky bodybuilders make me laugh. It's like an ego thing. If you have no MMA or fighting skills your done!
Not true,,not true at all..
@@nofilter.906do you have an example?
You are another one of those insecure bodybuilders @@nofilter.906
look at it from this perspective: does a bear know any MMA? Would you fight a bear, and if not: why not?
There are certain thresholds of size and power that make all the technique irrelevant.
Of course on average a pro fighter will win, but to think that size has got nothing to do is silly. I mean there's a reason why there are weight classes...
@@misanthrophex not a great example because a bear has deadly weapons integrated into its body, we don't (not really anyway). Size matters but cardio fitness and skills matter more.
Let's not forget the time when the eddie "the beast" was destroyed by tom aspinall, with like 60 kg weight difference between them. And Hall its not some guy, he lifted 500 kilos in deadlift and he is learning mma. He is one of the strongest guys in the planet, and aspinall is probably the HW future goat.
another cocky over rated brit
Lol this gets recommended at the time I just witnessed ts happening live😂
Oh, I see, he thinks he's The Mountain from Game of Thrones!
😂😂😂😂😂
Dude said hes good im better???? U TAPPED 2X IN LESS THAN 5 MINUTES
And the skinny guy was pulling his punches the whole time... and still that muscle boy tapped out quick.
I’m a big muscled up guy, also been training jiujitsu for 20 years now. I love it when I walk into a new gym and you see the ones who have a prejudice of the big dudes get keyed up. Makes them try harder.
The boxer would hit him so fast so many times , that if he took the first punch which could KO him then the next 15 he would see or remember until he watches the replay, and go oh shit until you spar then you see the speed and it gets better with levels of fighters
He would have a hard time tracking it
De Lo Hoya lost a boxing match to Shaq
I’m not fighting someone whose nose is permanently shifted to one side of their face