A lifetime of study to understand these wonderful people (Maya)... And Dr. Coe succeeded brilliantly! In a sense, his brilliant mind helped to create a miraculous time machine that allows us to hear the thoughts and ideas of an ancient culture through their own language. A remarkable achievement!
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I live in Guatemala, was born here, speak mayan, and other languages, and this has been a wonderful lecture. Classic maya disappeared, gone forever, but mayan people compose up to nearly 30 different groups, each with their own language and dialects. What unites them is religion, mayan religion. And mayan languages are taught at all schools here. Present mayan are becoming literate on their own languages, and will surely understand this great collapse.
@@rustydogrustydog9191 I take that back, they actually found ceramics and a very ancient ceremonial place near Cerros Belize that dates back earlier than El Mirador In Guatemala.
The Maya has long been established as the best, most bla bla-not equivalent to American Native. The fully revised and expanded 8th edition incorporates the latest archaeological and epigraphic research, which continues to proceed at a fast pace. Cool!
Absolutely brilliant lecture. The only thing that just didn’t ring true to me was his belief they defended from Olmec. Does any Olmec nose look anything like a Mayan nose?
Yes they do. I am part mayan I have a fat nose with huge nostrils. My mayan friends are all very short with square heads lol I'm not lkeing they have a Goomba head like square jawline it's different it'd unique its maya its not african ...the people of olmec decent have more tropical and jungle phenotypes so they mightvw been exposed to the jungle more than other groups....just like in the Amazon groups within the Amazon tend to have wider nostrils and darker skin
Didn't Michael Allan Coe, (from the post-high-classic-country-rockian-northeastern-higher-upper-lowland-basin citadel of "Na'ax-Bíl", if I remember correctly) write that epic warrior-poet-song that has the refrain: "If that ain't Mayan... you can Quiche Maya Ya'ax!"?
RIP Prof Coe, a truly learned scholar who knows what he is talking about, they don't make them like him anymore, look at all those "archaeologists" today, lol
Does he speak about how we are called negro and Black because we have dark copper colored skin and wooly hair? Bonampak murals make it very obvious. If you're too sense to get it when I say it.
The Afrocentric thirst never stops. He didn’t mention negros or copper whatever because it has nothing to do with mesoamerican studies. I think you’re looking for African studies.
They have found the Egyptian Ankh in Temples in Mexico and Guatemala, these may well have been Phoenicians/Hebrews from Egypt and Babylon. The death and resurrection of the serpent is precisely what is taught by Egyptian tradition. In fact the Bible is an adaption of the Babylonian zodiac written backwards, theres a recurring theme of duality and inversion, which would be consistent with an understanding of maritime navigation. I just cant figure out who came first. Baalam sure sounds alot like the Lord of the Bible, Baal,the Lion of Judah. They seem to have adapted local iconography to their root horoscope, starting with Osiris, which was the sign of the Spring Equinox in India 6000 years ago, hence the Bull worship, being Taurus, and Abraham being a Brahim, from Batman, in Turkey. And why Alexander the Great is portrayed with Horns in Aries, and why Osiris is pictured with the crook and flail of a Shepard. Jesus marks the fishermen of Pisces, also represented in Maui, and Trump is the unfortunate avatar of Aquarius, opposed by the fire sign and 13th sunsign of the Babylonian Zodiac Serpentis, the Serpent Bearer, symbol of healing and Resurrection.
@@mgvegam oh, the gag where I'm supposed to win your approval, how original, and what makes you so special again? The cross is the Phoenician Sun God symbol, representing Melqart, Scion of Baal, King of Tyre, it's an Equinox Calender, the constellation of Orion is the God of every religion. The Temple of Solomon, is the Temple of Melqart in Tyre, which is Troy, just offshore from Urshu, or Ur Shalom, Jerusalem. The Tower of Babel is the Pyramids, built by Hiram Abiff, King of Babylon, and the Hanging Gardens are Vinyards. The Holy Grail is the Philosopher's Stone which the Phoenix ignites upon, and the phoenix is Venus, which resurrects every 584 years at Easter. Sanchoniathon states: "Chronus, whom the Phoenicians name ISRAEL [JACOB] and who was, after his death, consecrated into the star SATURN, when HE WAS KING OF THE COUNTRY, and had by a nymph of that country, named Anobret, an only begotten son, whom, on that account, they called Jeud. www.britam.org/salverda.html Pan is used to varying degrees in a number of countries - Poland, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Ukraine, Belarus and Lithuania (Ponas). Historically, Pan was equivalent to "Lord" or "Master" (ruler, suzerain). Pan is most common in Poland. The feminine form is Pani and the collective is Państwo. Slavic honorifics - Wikipedia thegoddesshouse.blogspot.com/2011/05/tanit-great-goddess-of-carthage.html?m=1 phillipkay.wordpress.com/2015/07/23/the-golden-ass/amp/ apollonius-iesuschristus.blogspot.com/2016/04/the-apollonius-jesus-question.html?m=1 constable.blog/2008/05/07/about-pleiades-or-how-a-fool-destroyed-paradise/ www.ancient-origins.net/myths-legends/tracing-origins-serpent-cult-002393 www.johnpratt.com/items/docs/lds/meridian/2001/venus.html latterdaysaintmag.com/article-1-14769/ sites.google.com/site/investigatingchristianity/home/numerology/easter-fun--jesus-3-days-in-the-tomb www.souledout.org/festivals/ariesfestival03/eastermythology.html www.ancient-origins.net/artifacts-other-artifacts/mystery-four-golden-hats-bronze-age-002630 www.northernarchitecture.us/ancient-egyptian/mediaeval-astronomy-in-the-old-testament-book-of-ezekiel.html www.keyofsolomon.org/eightPointedCross.php www.history.com/news/ancient-greeks-may-have-used-worlds-first-computer-to-predict-the-future www.academia.edu/8845712/One_Day_every_216_Years_Three_Days_each_Decan_Rebirth_Cycle_of_Pythagoras_Phoenix_Hazon_Gabriel_and_Christian_Dogma_of_Resurrection_can_be_Explained_by_the_Metonic_Cycle?auto=download listverse.com/2017/08/16/10-reasons-the-story-of-jesus-might-be-an-allegory-for-the-sun/ www.solarmythology.com/ nehandaradio.com/2016/06/30/jesus-christ-mythical-allegorical-figure-never-lived-earth/ www.antikythera-mechanism.gr/faq/astronomical-questions/what-are-the-metonic-and-callipic-cycles www.recoveredscience.com/Phaistosebook04.htm www.mesoamericancalendarstudies.com/mayan-count.html www.mythicalireland.com/astronomy/metonic-cycle-the-19-year-cycle-of-the-moon/ www.webexhibits.org/calendars/calendar-mayan.html www.academia.edu/16144530/The_Mesoamerican_6_940_Day_Cycle_Reconsidered atlan.org/articles/the-great-pyramid-and-the-origin-of-the-egyptian-calendar/ www.goldennumber.net/phi-pi-great-pyramid-egypt/ www.patheos.com/blogs/tippling/2016/07/13/samson-as-a-solar-myth/ www.deseret.com/1992/12/24/19023237/was-star-of-bethlehem-a-conjunction-of-planets adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1937JRASC..31..417B uofgts.com/Magi.html The upcoming great conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn will be December 21, 2020 www.astrologyuniversity.com/resources-for-jupiter-saturn/ www.bbvaopenmind.com/en/science/physics/ophiuchus-the-13th-sign-of-the-zodiac/ medium.com/illumination/why-i-am-inspired-by-thoth-the-ancient-egypian-god-of-the-moon-and-of-writing-d2ec6029b2e2 www.irishoriginsofcivilization.com/serpent-symbolism.html www.ancient-symbols.com/symbols-directory/serpent mythology.net/others/concepts/serpent/ link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00268-010-0686-y?shared-article-renderer www.hubert-herald.nl/SerpentNaga.htm orderoftheserpent.org/forum/index.php?topic=1581.0 luciferschurch.wordpress.com/abraxas/ www.ancient-origins.net/news-archaeology/30000-year-old-phallic-decorations-give-insights-ancient-ancestors-00360 cosmology.com/CavemanCosmology.html sservi.nasa.gov/articles/oldest-lunar-calendars/
It was great fun listening to this expert. We have a fine group of plates and drinking cups for chocolate in Boston at the MFA. Lots of blood and beheadings but no genital blood letting. It may be a bit too gross for Boston sensibilities. I especially enjoyed the ball game with dead heads. It does not seem to be a particularly pleasant existence for the average person. At least trump can not avail himself of beheading and blood letting
The problem with the anthropologist and historians it's that the can't admit that the indigenous people of the Anáhuac aka america had a civilization thousand years before the european and just divide different cultures of one civilization in different civilizations when it's only one :the anawak,mayas weren't one civilization ,was a culture different from let's say zapoteca o even mexica but they were and are part of the Anáhuac.
Rest in peace, Doctor Coe ... a man consistently brilliant and kind.
I did not know...my condolences.
They often are !! Top scientists are often exceeding kind people !!
A lifetime of study to understand these wonderful people (Maya)...
And Dr. Coe succeeded brilliantly!
In a sense, his brilliant mind helped to create a miraculous time machine that allows us to hear the thoughts and ideas of an ancient culture through their own language.
A remarkable achievement!
I live in Guatemala, was born here, speak mayan, and other languages, and this has been a wonderful lecture. Classic maya disappeared, gone forever, but mayan people compose up to nearly 30 different groups, each with their own language and dialects. What unites them is religion, mayan religion. And mayan languages are taught at all schools here. Present mayan are becoming literate on their own languages, and will surely understand this great collapse.
It is good to know that you are positive about the preservation of the Mayan language, traditions and people.
Beautiful time for them. A time of self discovery. Origins.
can I learn some Maya words from you
I watch this video to reignite my passion for Mayan archeology
I-had the honor to hear Dr Coe speak in 2009
Thank you for a lifetime of curiosity.
Hearing Coe talk about the Mayan collapse (starting around 31:54) is rather sobering given today's multiple situations.
😕
Remember that it's only a theory of many and besides Mayas still exist
The features on the Olmec masks and figures give an indication to their origin.
How so?
@@patavinity1262 Local people have the same features.
Great lecture
Guatemala is truly the birthplace of the Maya civilization.
Not at all.
@@rustydogrustydog9191 I take that back, they actually found ceramics and a very ancient ceremonial place near Cerros Belize that dates back earlier than El Mirador In Guatemala.
The Maya has long been established as the best, most bla bla-not equivalent to American Native. The fully revised and expanded 8th edition incorporates the latest archaeological and epigraphic research, which continues to proceed at a fast pace. Cool!
Good images!!!
Wonderful! Thanks!
Absolutely brilliant lecture. The only thing that just didn’t ring true to me was his belief they defended from Olmec. Does any Olmec nose look anything like a Mayan nose?
Yes they do. I am part mayan I have a fat nose with huge nostrils. My mayan friends are all very short with square heads lol I'm not lkeing they have a Goomba head like square jawline it's different it'd unique its maya its not african ...the people of olmec decent have more tropical and jungle phenotypes so they mightvw been exposed to the jungle more than other groups....just like in the Amazon groups within the Amazon tend to have wider nostrils and darker skin
Didn't Michael Allan Coe, (from the post-high-classic-country-rockian-northeastern-higher-upper-lowland-basin citadel of "Na'ax-Bíl", if I remember correctly) write that epic warrior-poet-song that has the refrain:
"If that ain't Mayan... you can Quiche Maya Ya'ax!"?
We are living in a Vast ocean!
RIP Prof Coe, a truly learned scholar who knows what he is talking about, they don't make them like him anymore, look at all those "archaeologists" today, lol
Maya is way before Mexico.
Not 2000years. But 10000 years
Awesome knowledge, Thank you. REGADS
Does he speak about how we are called negro and Black because we have dark copper colored skin and wooly hair? Bonampak murals make it very obvious. If you're too sense to get it when I say it.
The Afrocentric thirst never stops. He didn’t mention negros or copper whatever because it has nothing to do with mesoamerican studies. I think you’re looking for African studies.
He's talking about real native Americans not African slaves pinche huipa.
@@davidmendoza.2928we are the real people of the land fool
You are not being truthful, you know more than you are telling.
there are known mysteries, and there are unknown mysteries. but the biggest mystery is why he went to portland. yeegawd.
El-Choctaw-lord-De-CalifasMexicoAztlan Antz-that-walks-in-sky i Cali 🐜🐜
MAYANS = Yucatan peninsula 🤐
MAYAN CIVILISATION IN MY DNA NOT AFRIKAAN😉 CLUB A.O.K KNOWLEDGE
The Olmec face carvings certainly had an oriental or Polynesian look to them.
Lmao not what scientists say
This guy is def better than the Mayans, 56:08 he said not in 2012 but it could happen someday then in 2013 the meteor hit Russia lol
Yawn.
They have found the Egyptian Ankh in Temples in Mexico and Guatemala, these may well have been Phoenicians/Hebrews from Egypt and Babylon. The death and resurrection of the serpent is precisely what is taught by Egyptian tradition. In fact the Bible is an adaption of the Babylonian zodiac written backwards, theres a recurring theme of duality and inversion, which would be consistent with an understanding of maritime navigation. I just cant figure out who came first. Baalam sure sounds alot like the Lord of the Bible, Baal,the Lion of Judah. They seem to have adapted local iconography to their root horoscope, starting with Osiris, which was the sign of the Spring Equinox in India 6000 years ago, hence the Bull worship, being Taurus, and Abraham being a Brahim, from Batman, in Turkey. And why Alexander the Great is portrayed with Horns in Aries, and why Osiris is pictured with the crook and flail of a Shepard. Jesus marks the fishermen of Pisces, also represented in Maui, and Trump is the unfortunate avatar of Aquarius, opposed by the fire sign and 13th sunsign of the Babylonian Zodiac Serpentis, the Serpent Bearer, symbol of healing and Resurrection.
Good God! What do you smoke?!?!?!?!
@@mgvegam oh, the gag where I'm supposed to win your approval, how original, and what makes you so special again?
The cross is the Phoenician Sun God symbol, representing Melqart, Scion of Baal, King of Tyre, it's an Equinox Calender, the constellation of Orion is the God of every religion. The Temple of Solomon, is the Temple of Melqart in Tyre, which is Troy, just offshore from Urshu, or Ur Shalom, Jerusalem. The Tower of Babel is the Pyramids, built by Hiram Abiff, King of Babylon, and the Hanging Gardens are Vinyards. The Holy Grail is the Philosopher's Stone which the Phoenix ignites upon, and the phoenix is Venus, which resurrects every 584 years at Easter.
Sanchoniathon states: "Chronus, whom the Phoenicians name ISRAEL [JACOB] and who was, after his death, consecrated into the star SATURN, when HE WAS KING OF THE COUNTRY, and had by a nymph of that country, named Anobret, an only begotten son, whom, on that account, they called Jeud.
www.britam.org/salverda.html
Pan is used to varying degrees in a number of countries - Poland, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Ukraine, Belarus and Lithuania (Ponas). Historically, Pan was equivalent to "Lord" or "Master" (ruler, suzerain). Pan is most common in Poland. The feminine form is Pani and the collective is Państwo.
Slavic honorifics - Wikipedia
thegoddesshouse.blogspot.com/2011/05/tanit-great-goddess-of-carthage.html?m=1
phillipkay.wordpress.com/2015/07/23/the-golden-ass/amp/
apollonius-iesuschristus.blogspot.com/2016/04/the-apollonius-jesus-question.html?m=1
constable.blog/2008/05/07/about-pleiades-or-how-a-fool-destroyed-paradise/
www.ancient-origins.net/myths-legends/tracing-origins-serpent-cult-002393
www.johnpratt.com/items/docs/lds/meridian/2001/venus.html
latterdaysaintmag.com/article-1-14769/
sites.google.com/site/investigatingchristianity/home/numerology/easter-fun--jesus-3-days-in-the-tomb
www.souledout.org/festivals/ariesfestival03/eastermythology.html
www.ancient-origins.net/artifacts-other-artifacts/mystery-four-golden-hats-bronze-age-002630
www.northernarchitecture.us/ancient-egyptian/mediaeval-astronomy-in-the-old-testament-book-of-ezekiel.html
www.keyofsolomon.org/eightPointedCross.php
www.history.com/news/ancient-greeks-may-have-used-worlds-first-computer-to-predict-the-future
www.academia.edu/8845712/One_Day_every_216_Years_Three_Days_each_Decan_Rebirth_Cycle_of_Pythagoras_Phoenix_Hazon_Gabriel_and_Christian_Dogma_of_Resurrection_can_be_Explained_by_the_Metonic_Cycle?auto=download
listverse.com/2017/08/16/10-reasons-the-story-of-jesus-might-be-an-allegory-for-the-sun/
www.solarmythology.com/
nehandaradio.com/2016/06/30/jesus-christ-mythical-allegorical-figure-never-lived-earth/
www.antikythera-mechanism.gr/faq/astronomical-questions/what-are-the-metonic-and-callipic-cycles
www.recoveredscience.com/Phaistosebook04.htm
www.mesoamericancalendarstudies.com/mayan-count.html
www.mythicalireland.com/astronomy/metonic-cycle-the-19-year-cycle-of-the-moon/
www.webexhibits.org/calendars/calendar-mayan.html
www.academia.edu/16144530/The_Mesoamerican_6_940_Day_Cycle_Reconsidered
atlan.org/articles/the-great-pyramid-and-the-origin-of-the-egyptian-calendar/
www.goldennumber.net/phi-pi-great-pyramid-egypt/
www.patheos.com/blogs/tippling/2016/07/13/samson-as-a-solar-myth/
www.deseret.com/1992/12/24/19023237/was-star-of-bethlehem-a-conjunction-of-planets
adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1937JRASC..31..417B
uofgts.com/Magi.html
The upcoming great conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn will be December 21, 2020
www.astrologyuniversity.com/resources-for-jupiter-saturn/
www.bbvaopenmind.com/en/science/physics/ophiuchus-the-13th-sign-of-the-zodiac/
medium.com/illumination/why-i-am-inspired-by-thoth-the-ancient-egypian-god-of-the-moon-and-of-writing-d2ec6029b2e2
www.irishoriginsofcivilization.com/serpent-symbolism.html
www.ancient-symbols.com/symbols-directory/serpent
mythology.net/others/concepts/serpent/
link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00268-010-0686-y?shared-article-renderer
www.hubert-herald.nl/SerpentNaga.htm
orderoftheserpent.org/forum/index.php?topic=1581.0
luciferschurch.wordpress.com/abraxas/
www.ancient-origins.net/news-archaeology/30000-year-old-phallic-decorations-give-insights-ancient-ancestors-00360
cosmology.com/CavemanCosmology.html
sservi.nasa.gov/articles/oldest-lunar-calendars/
@Pecker Dúnling San Patricio Space Dolphin Brigada l know nothing about this but l do get what you are saying. Where can l look this stuff up pls
It was great fun listening to this expert. We have a fine group of plates and drinking cups for chocolate in Boston at the MFA. Lots of blood and beheadings but no genital blood letting. It may be a bit too gross for Boston sensibilities. I especially enjoyed the ball game with dead heads. It does not seem to be a particularly pleasant existence for the average person. At least trump can not avail himself of beheading and blood letting
270k dead by the time he officially leaves office. That's a human sacrifice to his greed and ego, pretty horrendous.😷🤒😭😢😥💔💔💔
Oh them Mysteries and how a few can milk a living out of there chimerical divining of the past.
The maya didn't invent their civilisation, more than likely its the same situation in Egypt and most if not all megalithic cultures.
Aliens did it or ancient powerful white ppl right?
The problem with the anthropologist and historians it's that the can't admit that the indigenous people of the Anáhuac aka america had a civilization thousand years before the european and just divide different cultures of one civilization in different civilizations when it's only one :the anawak,mayas weren't one civilization ,was a culture different from let's say zapoteca o even mexica but they were and are part of the Anáhuac.