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  • Опубліковано 7 лис 2024

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  • @SandyHoffman-v4p
    @SandyHoffman-v4p 2 дні тому

    After listening to our pastors share from scripture and their hearts, it’s a beautiful thing to see them, allowing all of us the grace to trust in ourvotes. But if our candidate or candidates do not win, we are called to pray for those who the Lord has allowed to assume those positions. Thank you pastors! It was very freeing. It is good that we are not being told who to vote for.

  • @michaelmiles7957
    @michaelmiles7957 5 днів тому

    GREAT DISCUSSION

  • @nicrogers8232
    @nicrogers8232 7 днів тому +1

    I appreciate that comments were kept open. I appreciate that the church is willing to have this discussion.
    One of the pastors mentioned voting based on the character of the candidate, and I'll admit that threw me off. Indirectly, I feel as though our church leaders are in favor of one candidate over another. I don't feel it's fair to make that assessment, but here we are.
    To that point I would suggest that it's better to judge one by their fruits, rather than what we are led to believe. I'm not sure it's our place to judge anyone really, and so I just follow my best instincts when voting for a candidates. I attempt to look at their record and what they've advocated for and if that lines up with God's plan in scripture.
    The whole topic is polarizing, and I don't feel church can adequately discuss this without alienating someone. Especially in our church that is unique and diverse.
    At the end of the day it's God's plan, and we have to learn to accept earthly outcomes, and keep our eyes fixed on heaven. Prayer for our brothers and sisters of all backgrounds is most important. Sharing God's love without manipulating or distorting His truths is my mindset.
    Trump 2024 😂

    • @WheatonBible
      @WheatonBible  7 днів тому

      As you said, it is a difficult discussion especially within the church and we're glad that you shared your thoughts!
      "At the end of the day it's God's plan, and we have to learn to accept earthly outcomes, and keep our eyes fixed on heaven. Prayer for our brothers and sisters of all backgrounds is most important. Sharing God's love without manipulating or distorting His truths is my mindset."
      Amen and amen to this☝️. As earthly kingdoms rise and fall, let's keep our eyes fixed on the King of Kings and His kingdom.

  • @rickparker5440
    @rickparker5440 8 днів тому +2

    Are we to vote with our feelings, or biblical principles. It seems like you are beating around bush with this.

    • @WheatonBible
      @WheatonBible  8 днів тому

      What are your thoughts? We felt we could all agree that a good practice is to examine our feelings and consider them through the lens of scripture. We also agreed that every Christian should take caution and ask themselves the question, "Am I making a choice based on personal benefit, or a decision with the Kingdom of Heaven in mind?" As it is, no earthly choice can substitute the ultimate choice of Christ as King of kings.

    • @ProSnocorp
      @ProSnocorp 8 днів тому +2

      If we are to look at our feelings through the lens of Scripture wouldn’t we realize that we are not called to live by our feelings at all?
      Doesn’t the Bible teach us to learn to love what God loves and hate what he hates.
      It’s pretty clear from Scripture the things that he hates and the things that he loves.
      Don’t we become complicit in supporting people that want to further what God hates?
      Since there is no perfect sinless candidate, shouldn’t we be supporting those that most closely align with what God loves?
      Maybe the problem is that we are not really clear on what God loves?

    • @WheatonBible
      @WheatonBible  7 днів тому

      If we are to look at our feelings through the lens of Scripture wouldn’t we realize that we are not called to live by our feelings at all? - Correct! Feelings, a powerful source of motive, are a futile source of wisdom. Christians are exhorted to take our mind's thoughts and our heart's desires into captivity and examine them through the lens of scripture and ultimately Jesus.
      Since there is no perfect sinless candidate, shouldn’t we be supporting those that most closely align with what God loves? - This is the consensus our pastors came to as well. As simple as we may wish it were however, many political parties hold certain policies that can arguably align with God's precepts. This still leaves Christian voters with a decision to make. Our hope in all of this dialogue is simply that we as Christians would work through our decision with the Lord.
      At the end of the day, take heart because God's ultimate redemption plan remains unchanged.