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It is a bit ironic that the same motorists that think it is too dangerous for a motorcycle to overtake in slow or stalled traffic have no problem with overtaking a bicycle that is in the same lane of traffic as they. The laws are skewed toward the majority that do not ride motorcycles.
@@justauserfiltering is travelling through stopped traffic and and splitting is switching lanes to progress through moving traffic neither of which is illegal in the UK as long as it's done safely the old bill can grab you for dangerous driving/overtaking if you lane split or filter like a twat but as long as you don't do that both are perfectly legal
Americans rightly mock us in the UK for not having gun rights, and we can't believe that most US states don't allow you to take advantage of the maneuverability and width advantage of your motorcycles!
in the first minute this video was already reminding me of our One True Queen, Natalie. Fantastic job offering contra-points (😉😉) to the commonly held beliefs on this topic. Love every bit of your content.
Well done. Only x factor unaccounted for is the plain ole cussedness of people; their tendency to try to block or obstruct a rider, increasing the danger and unpredictability of splitting. That said, I support free choice, but personally don't trust cagers enough to try it myself.
Recently found this channel and wanted to just say so far I enjoy the content. Specifically the crash analysis content it's great. I only been riding for a few years and a bit of the content added things I either didn't think about or know. Thanks for the good content
I'm from Europe and here every one does lane splitting without a problem. Car drivers even open for motorcycles to pass. I don't really understand why in US so many people complain about that. If a car driver can't deal with motorcycles lane splitting they shouldn't even be driving because it's evident they're driving skills must completely suck.
It’s one of those weird things here. Of course, Americans are so America centric, and often don’t know everyone else does it, or if they do, don’t care because if we do it differently then we must know something everyone else doesn’t. We are pretty silly over here about some things.
I use to ride 50 miles one way so in an average work week 500 miles, in sunny Southern California. I lane share the whole way except on surface streets. Freeways are safer in my opinion. Everyone is going in the same direction at relatively the same speed. That being said. Lane sharing at 80 when everyone is doing 70 to 75 no big deal. It’s when there is a traffic jam you continue that speed between cars. Which is bad because everyone is trying to find that lane that is less effected by the jam. I’ve had people at least once every quarter, (3months) show their dislike of the advantage motorcyclists have in lane sharing. That’s why I go slow enough to scan head movements and mirror scans of the 4 wheeled folk. They sometimes broadcast their intentions like a poker tell. For example a guy mouthed watched this to all his buddies in the car, as he noticed me coming. Gripped the top of his steering wheel at the 12 o’clock with both hands, stared into his side mirror, and waited. He wasn’t really paying attention to the traffic in front, he closed that gap and had no room to come out far enough to effect me. I rode out far enough to avoid his attempt. This was on an on-ramp to a different freeway, so they have wide shoulders.
As long as I’m going over 20 MPH, I’m good. The high-speed flying between cars is what people who think that lane splitting/lane sharing is a dangerous behavior, when it’s really just for working through slow or stopped traffic.
Tbh, I've been lane splitting and filtering up here in canada since i started riding and even tho its illegal here cagers dont care and even make a space for me if they realize what im trying to do. Cops dont really care unless you do it aggressively. The main issue is that with it being illegal cagers usually have no idea that im intending to do it. Usually i have to use lane positioning to condition them to leave me room
Hye dude - I have a question. In the video here - 2:26 - The white van crosses the path of the bike. My question is, is that correct? As in with the rules of the road in the US, is that an illegal or legal move?
I can’t speak for all states, but in mine, that would be an illegal lane change because it was done within ~100 feet of the intersection. Demonstrates what most car drivers are afraid of (Even though lots of the time it’s gonna be the car drivers fault for being oblivious).
Well aren’t you kind. It probobly has to do with the fact I don’t make millions of videos to get keyword search (Because I try to do a good job), my videos are longer form (People for the most part don’t have the attention span to stick around past a few minutes), I only ask for likes/subs after delivering something valuable (Instead if asking right up front or multiple times in a video), and I give a nuanced take (Instead of simple validation of peoples opinions).... so I basically forfeit popularity for quality and sincerity. But hey, you can help fight that by watching, liking and most of all sharing my videos. 🍻
Lane filtering reduces traffic congestion and helps prevent stupid drivers from rear ending bikes. As for lane splitting, I think its pretty stupid to try and make it between two vehicles because inevitably one of them will try and change lanes without looking or try and squeeze you out. That being said, from an environmental viewpoint its dumb to have a vehicle that can make the gap sitting in traffic taking up space that a car needs to reduce congestion. Personally I think both should be legal. Motorcycles are more dangerous mostly because of stupid car and truck drivers not paying attention. The bike itself isn't really inherently more dangerous if by itself.
I have always split lanes in California. They made it legal here and all of a sudden people started using their rear view mirrors. Now we still get some tourist who drive here and don't turn right at a red light and get jealous of motorcycles that get to cheat. Just or not the reason we do it ,,,,,,,,, Motorcycles are air cooled for the most part. So you have to keep moving to keep from over heating. That is what started it. Blame the CHP because they actually look at it that way or did way back in the day and when off duty they still split lanes and felt it unjust to write tickets for something they do all day long. Then the benefit of motorcycles over cars must have some reward over the danger of riding one around cars.
Lane splitting when done safely obv will reduce traffic, car drivers seeing this will also encourage others to get motorcycles further reducing traffic, and with more motorcyclists around makes the average driver subconsciously more aware of motorcyclists. Making motorcycles a bit safer as well. Its a win win for everyone involved
Imo the blade of knowledge would be balanced if it required UU to equip. You still need a sacrifice outlet to properly make use of it and that restricts the colors by a lot
In Europe and UK this is called 'filtering' and it is totally legal. Motorbikes take up less space and therefore there is no need to restrict them to car width lanes.
You said that motorcycle shouldn't be allowed to lane split between two lanes going opposite directions when its not really dangerous as long as you don't go a insane speed and have common sense. I considered it just like overtaking and it didn't slow anyone else down.
I acknowledge it's not impossible to do safely, but my argument against it is due to the disparity in speed between opposite direction traffic. Even if we are talking arterial streets that are 25MPH, if each vehicle is going only the speed limit this would be a 50 MPH difference which increases the mobility of an accident and severity. However, if traffic is dense and moving very slowly (We can imagine a large city like New York or London) so that the speed differential is within the 15-25 mph zone, and the road is wide enough to allow it, then I don't have many arguments against it
Yes, Drugs should be legalized, regulated, quality controlled, and therefore made safer....and, I think we all could agree it'd be better for the revenues of a $500 Billion dollar a year black market go legal, tax paying businesses that settle their disputes in court rather than with weapons.
I think lane filtering (while traffic is going less then 30km/h) is okay but splitting between cars at highway speeds is the issue since you don't have time to react enough. People will go 140km/h doing a wheelie in bumper to bumper traffic, meanwhile people are slowing trying to change lanes and don't use their signals, it's just not always great
Germany also has lane splitting ban, but Police don't enforce this for simple reason: they realise that you are frying in the sun or soaking wet in the rain which cause more dnger to rider health or life.
I really don't understand all the bills specifying roads that you can cannot split on by speed limit. That seems completely irrelevant if you already have a speed differential limit and a surrounding traffic speed limit in place (not more than 15 mph of surrounding traffic when surrounding traffic is doing 20mph or less, etc). Being able to split on a grid-locked highway is probably one of the most important times to be able to split when it comes to rider safety.
Nice job, as usual. Had to keep pausing the video to read all the notes, but worth it. I'm in CA, so I feel spoiled ... One of the factors that keeps me from moving back home is that I can legally split lanes. Question: I think of lane splitting as splitting one lane into two (shoulder riding is an example). Some think it means splitting between two lanes. Thoughts?
Same. I categorize it all under ‘Using available road’. Shoulder riding is probobly more a thing where splitting isn’t legal, so people use the shoulder instead because it seems more comfortable having vehicles on only one side.
Someday lane splitting may be safer. For now drivers have not become accustom to motorcycles riding on the lines. If it is legal, over time drivers will learn and remember a bike could come by at anytime. However, if you look at speeding cars do it all the time with minimal risk compared to speeding while lane splitting. If all obeyed traffic laws then no problem, even with lane splitting or filtering. Until then , ... then may never arrive 💀
4:10 I have a problem with all of those things, actually. But I think that of those that you mentioned only those that cause harm to others should be illegal
Lane splitting IS inherently dangerous. Just because moving slowly in between stopped traffic isn't dangerous doesn't mean that the act itself usually isn't dangerous. Most applications of lane splitting ARE dangerous both to you and the people around you. Like you talk about how there are ways to lane split safely while showing a bunch of videos where the lane-splitting motorcyclist gets into an accident despite being very safe and attentive, because there was simply nothing they could have done. There was no space for them to maneuver and they had no time to react because they have practically no visibility in that tiny gap.
Actions should not be illegal, it should be up to the individual to judge the dangers to themselves / others of their actions and make their own choice, however the consequences of performing a dangerous action should be severe if they cause harm to others, e.g riding at 150+ mph if nobody is harmed then the rider has judged the situation correctly and should face no punishment because nobody was harmed, if the same rider is doing 150mph but hits someone causing them harm then they should be punished not just for crashing but for the dangerous action they have performed
The argument you hear to this is that ‘Some people have bad judgement, so the law disincentives reckless behavior’, which I understand on its face. I don’t agree that a persons judgement can be based entirely on the results, and we do need to take other situational context into consideration to make a value statement on ‘Jusgement’. The person driving 150 though traffic without crashing can’t say that it’s entirely their judgement to thank, they have relied on other drivers awareness of the situation and plain luck to avoid that crash, as they could not have reacted to an unexpected driver behavior at that speed. Instead of reducing freedom though, I would rather focus on improving people’s judgement and skills.
@@SquidTips I agree it's not just judgment that determines the result of a action as you say, I'm deffinatley in the camp of if it doesn't cause harm to anyone it shouldn't be a crime though but anyone could argue these points forever and people do, anyway great content as usual Matt from the workshop sent me here and I've binge watched all your content and I'm hooked
Here's another question for those who oppose special privilege for motorcycles: should big trailer trucks be allowed in left lanes on highways, and all local streets?
I like the way you break down 'fair'. Here in the UK it is legal but also not encouraged in your riding test. It's kind of a grey area because it is not mentioned in our Highway code, meaning it's not a practise they endorse but on the other hand, the Highway code doesn't say you can't do it. Many people pull over to the side to give you more room or to create a space for you to get by. However the other view on fair comes in and people do everything they can to cut your space down or block you in so you cannot get past, sometimes going to lengths of what would be considered dangerous driving just to stop you from making progress they can't. We also have obligatory no mirror users or texting drivers as I am sure you do in the States. The rule for a biker filtering in the UK from a law perspective is that it must be done with "due care and attention" that can be quite a subjective topic for opinion but it generally works and whilst you do get the odd fool riding like an idiot the same is true for car drivers as well. I split between ongoing traffic, but I make sure I've always got somewhere to get safe at all times, should the need arise with large vehicles coming the opposite way. That being said, if I feel the risk is quite high or feel as though my actions will impact someone else (causing them to swerve) I'll just sit and wait, I'm not in a rush to go to hospital or the grave.
I did find that ‘Do it safely’ clause in the U.K. rule to be irritating, I wonder how many people feel unfairly targeted by that? It seems culturally the law enforcement in the U.K. is less... aggressively authoritarian? So maybe less abuse happens there. Lots of people confuse ‘Legalize’ with ‘Require’ and you’ve given a perfect example of how you can opt-in and out with your comfort level in each situation.
@@SquidTips Hmm interesting point. I've filtered past lots of Police and none have cared. That being said, in the UK you can be pulled over for literally any reason, including no reason at all and you are required to stop and produce your licence if asked. You get the usual mix of Police from Firm and Fair to Power hungry bully. Most of us on sportbikes are mostly targets because of noisy exhausts more than anything, but 120db v-twin Harley riders never seem to be pulled at all. Police usually don't have sound testing equipment so it usually boils down to having a massive amount of your time wasted lol
Yo. Been riding for awhile off and on but first time riding legit licensed. Fact checking, can motorcycles ride the left shoulder legally but not lane split in Seattle?
Wow! You really let your inner nerd out with this vid. I hope you can write off that outfit. You do a great job of thoroughly stating this case. Maybe even a little too thorough for the general public. Perhaps you should seek out some law makers and present them with this argument.
That’s actually how this video began; As a tool people could use to send to lawmakers to try to persuade them to vote for lane splitting legislation. But then I realized that most lawmakers probobly wouldn’t watch a video unless it was insanely boring and bereft of entertainment value, or specifically designed to target them. On top of that, elected officials are just delegates for the population, and so the real solution is to educate a broader audience so that they can make their own case. In the end, I’m one person, but somehow likeminded people find themselves watching my videos. I believe that if I can arm people with the information and arguments that’s are strong and logically consistent, then they will better be able to push for legislation than I can as one person.
13:30 people like this give me a headache. How about you use a damn turn signal? Lane splitting doesn't mean we just wanna fly down the road in between cars without paying attention. If a motorcyclist notices someone signaling, they can take them into account and slow down accordingly.
"should we allow dangerous things in society" I think a lot of people would legitimately say no, that the government should outlaw dangerous things. Fireworks, guns, motorcycles, etc are all hot topics
I don’t have a problem assessing each one by one on their merits, but many people struggle to even have the language to begin discussing risk and danger.
@@SquidTips Agreed, unfortunately it's frustrating that people can't even begin to discuss things before they completely shut down. Especially when their point of view isn't "Educate the population to make better decisions" but "force the government to take away freedom until nobody can hurt themselves"
I'd like to add to the video though just a thought. I live in rural Wisconsin and the weathered roads even the dual lane ones would be dangerous due to middle of roads and in between lanes have ruts and holes often. But it's not the norm but would be a reason to limit the legality in my area.
If that stuff exists I think you could either improve road conditions, or maybe put up a sign of some form like ‘Caution Motorcycles: Poor road conditions for X miles’. As long as you are driving slowly, even gravel and metal can be fine if you are taking precautions. But I’m guessing traffic is less of an issue in your area, so it’s less likely to even be something a rider would want to do.
Yep like I said it's definitely outside norm but it could be something (assuming politicians even have that much logical forethought) that average road conditions of the state could be taken into account when deciding that. I won't lie never paid attention to the subject much. Also yeah on poor roads it would still allow rider to decide for themselves if they think they can. But just thought it may be another reason they haven't yet. I fully agree with all the points you made though don't get me wrong. I also always been a fan of not having laws to protect err umm stupid (but I'm harsh about that I guess).
Okay. I’m new to your channel. I just found this video... So, here in California where everything is illegal but “LANE SHARING”! Lane splitting is illegal because, splitting a lane is basically riding the yellow line(s)down the middle of two lanes going in the opposite directions! So yes it should not be done! I’ve had to share this with a CHP (California Highway Patrol) at work. Maybe I’m being literal but let’s be clear. Splitting is bad and sharing is caring. Otherwise what else do they call going between two vehicles when one of them is going in the opposite direction than you? Dangerous and illegal! If someone has the answer I sincerely would like to know. And I’ll shit down and shut up. So, far I’m enjoying your channel! PEACE!
That is called overtaking and not lane splitting since you are lane splitting if you are riding between two lanes that are going in the same direction. What you said is very common in Europe and Asia check out the royal Jordanian if you want to see what I mean.
Great vid alex. You should do some more vids going after that cyclecruza guy. I'm in a couple fb moto groups and his vids would get poster there sometimes. They are so hilariously bad, I think you would really enjoy countering some of his half a brain cell takes. Check out the one he did on milennial ruining motorcycles for one.
I started a big project, and burned a couple of weeks on it before tabling it. He’s done some really dumb stuff recent that’s made me want to pick that project back up....
@@SquidTips oh please do it! It always amazes me how this dude can spew pure fucking nonsense for a whole video and get away with it without having anyone contest any of his "points".
Agree to disagree. I stand by my comments on your first lane splitting video. Further I am disappointed with what you said about the Motorcycle Safety Foundation, the ONLY cyclist group that does all they do for the safety of all motorcyclists. Take care.
I appreciated your arguments previously, and they really formed the backbone for how I came at this argument. I also like the MSF, they do great work, I simply don’t believe in not educating people on tactics and strategies is because of mixed legality. They do have several statements supporting lane splitting, I just think they should take the next logical step in an effort to encourage sage splitting.
Ironically I just completed an MSF course and they covered the topic of lane splitting and acknowledged how it's controversial, yet legal in CA, yet not "officially sanctioned". They also covered how and when to safely lane split and how and when not to and that it had the potential to actually improve rider safety in cases where the rider has the skill level and confidence to execute properly and judiciously. The fact is, I plan to lane split when I acquire that comfort level and I only plan to do it during standstill traffic… or if highway traffic is moving at less than 10 mph. As a cautious, aware, and conscientious CAR driver, I'm dismayed by how many close calls I've nonetheless had as well as witnessed among my fellow car drivers during stop and go traffic. Drivers get worn out and tired after driving in slow highway traffic for a whole hour. They think everyone is moving along at 5mph only to suddenly realize that the car in front of them has come to a full stop and they have to slam on their brakes. I refuse to be a part of any such sandwiches. Cars are too big and heavy and hard to maneuver to put my safety into the hands of tired commuters, distracted soccer moms in giant SUVs, and tractor-trailer truckers trying to save on brakes and fuel and make good time. People tailgate (around here at least), in a very, very bad way. I'm not going to play that game. If I were to allow myself to become a victim to other people's bad driving, regardless of whether my behavior is illegal, legal, or otherwise… I would say "shame on me". I value my life over fairness, convenience, ettiequte, or law. Lane splitting, for me, is not just about making better time and wasting less fuel, thereby benefitting the planet… it's also about me ALWAYS maintaining an active escape route from the constantly expanding and compressing traffic at slow speeds. The fact is, if you're stopped, it's much harder to make an escape than if you're already in motion. If you're stopped, you're also likely getting worn down and lulled into being less attentive to driving and start thinking about other stuff or looking at billboards or the lady doing her eyes next to you. At the opposite extreme… if you're always moving slightly faster than everyone else, it's easier to control your own fate; you always have options to you available to maneuver; your brain is warmed up and paying attention; modest momentum is always in your favor vs the inertia of standing still -or having to micro-manage constantly changing speeds which are all slow enough that you could find yourself alternating between walking your bike and driving it. Because even at just 10mph, a 2500 lb car is gonna hurt really bad. Especially if there's another one stopped in front of you or trying to change lanes just as the one behind you is not keeping a healthy distance and the one in front of you has stopped. Better to already be in a "lane" where you can proactively act as well as react quickly to accelerate or slow down without fear (or sometimes ditch into one of the real lanes if need be). Even as a car driver, I've always endeavored to avoid being without escape routes. I always try to position myself and drive in such a way as to avoid being locked in by surrounding drivers… most of whom are totally not even mentally present. Let me ask you this, for the sake of the thought experiment: imagine you're a pedestrian walking on the highway during bumper to bumper traffic that's barely moving. Pretend this is the reality you live in… where cars and pedestrians intermingle, and cars are always stuck in traffic not moving more than 10mph, and they're coming to near and full stops frequently such that you can basically walk at the same speed as them. Would you dutifully stay within the confines of a car lane and hope they see you? Hope for the best? Would you feel that you would be safer moving in their lanes but spending orders of magnitude more time sharing the road with them than by walking a path between them and avoiding them as much as possible and also shortening the time you spend sharing the road with them drastically? Wouldn't you allow yourself the freedom of jumping off to the side and walking between and around them as needed? Which do you feel is the safer option?
So if you change lanes and kill a biker when he is lain splitting how the hell is that the car's fault. You cant SEE THEM. And yes, I will change lanes at 15mph.
I'm fine with lane splitting as long as it's understood that the biker is going be at fault 90% of the time. Bikers are entitled to a full lane width, but so are the cars on the road. If you invade my lane, or lane split while I'm changing lanes (while using my indicators of course) and we collide, then I'm not paying for any of your property or personal damage and your probably gonna be paying for damage to my car. You are the one accepting the danger, not me.
What’s the training look like? On the US it’s basically just a skills test, and there are some short periods where people have ‘beginners’ licenses with restrictions (Can only have family as passengers, no driving at night, etc). Maybe you’ve got the framework, but the bar for each is too low.
@@SquidTips you start with A (just motorcycles) or B (just small cars) after a year of B driving license you can be upgraded to C for bigger cars and you can drive small trucks, then, after 2 years of C you can upgrade to D for bigger trucks and small buses, and after 2 years of D you need to take another driving test and and you can upgrade to E so you can drive semis and buses.
My football coach had the philosophy of ‘Play offense on defense’, AKA an aggressive defense looking to make shit happen. That’s how I’d deserve my riding style
You lane split at your own risk. I don't trust car and truck drivers enough to put myself at needless risk. The fact that it's only "legal" in CA, supports my stance, since the other 99% of the country just watches what CA does, then does the opposite and remains normal. As far as I know, there is no mandated distance that cars and trucks are required to leave between them while remaining within their lanes, so what makes motorcyclists so sure they will leave enough distance between them for a lane splitting squid on a farkled-out Hayabusa with 6" frame sliders? It just pisses off the car and truck drivers around them and who wants that (see any car vs bike road rage video)? Stay in your lane, wait your turn and shut up. If Californians can't get to work on time, either move to a normal state or leave your home earlier. Not rocket science.
Your totally right, it is a risk, and the rider is the one that will pay the price if it doesn’t work out. There is no mandated distance between cars because roads are varying widths based on age, location, and purpose, so riders choosing to split must develop a sense for when it is safe and when it is not. Most people looking to lane split aren’t looking to do it at 25+ MPH; It’s for when traffic is at a crawl due to the various inefficiencies of the many highway systems across the nation. The more locations that allow splitting/filtering behaviors the more proper we can get operating smaller, more fuel efficient vehicles that reduce overall traffic. It’s a win/win for cars and bikes for anyone who can take a moment to consider the higher level implications, and overcome their initial misplaced anger at the ‘Unfairness’ of the act. It may not be the majority of states in the US, but most countries in the world allow Lane Splitting. We are the outlier.
@@SquidTips Yup, I get it and I travel all over the world on business. The riders are on the losing end in all of them. Most of Europe is okay, as their drivers are more respectful of bikes and conscious of how they drive, but you should see some of the third-world mayhem...I've seen many a dead motorcyclist/scooter rider in those countries, so just because they can do it, doesn't mean they'll live to brag about the 10 minutes they saved riding to work and doesn't mean that we should follow suit.
It's unsafe because the least little debris in the street will knock you into the vehicles your passing, not to mention people that don't ride aren't looking for a bike that's riding on the dividing line. For me it isn't worth being laid up or laid to rest.
Yeah, sometimes when you put an idea out there, especially a philosophical one that doesn’t exist anywhere else, it takes a bit longer to build the case up because I can’t assume any of my baseline beliefs are justified to the viewer.
I know this is an older video but does anyone know how I can help legalize lane splitting? At least in a city or county. I live where the rod run is and it can take hours to go a couple miles
Gotta find local political leaders who are interested in introducing legislation. I talk about it a bit in this video: ua-cam.com/video/DuDqLsZC12c/v-deo.html
Just take the initiative and do it and other motorcyclists who didn't want to be the only ones will as well. Precedent, normalization and enforcement/non-enforcement are all that rule us anyway
If you got the joke at 15:45 you are a degenerate. Also if you like this stuff you should hit that goddamn thumbs up button, subscribe, and then checkout my playlists like the Accident Analysis series ua-cam.com/play/PLBbh8r16dm-0ifNvtEj-dJ3uXpBa6L3UM.html
I noticed immediately lol.
I'm not a degenerate I guess
It is a bit ironic that the same motorists that think it is too dangerous for a motorcycle to overtake in slow or stalled traffic have no problem with overtaking a bicycle that is in the same lane of traffic as they. The laws are skewed toward the majority that do not ride motorcycles.
I would be devastated if lane splitting was not legal in the UK. makes such a difference to my commute time when I have to go into a city.
I don't think splitting and filtering are the same thing
@@justauserfiltering is travelling through stopped traffic and and splitting is switching lanes to progress through moving traffic neither of which is illegal in the UK as long as it's done safely the old bill can grab you for dangerous driving/overtaking if you lane split or filter like a twat but as long as you don't do that both are perfectly legal
I must admit. I found it slightly unnerving when I was on a bike trip to California but your very articulate comments are noted.
Nicely presented.
Americans rightly mock us in the UK for not having gun rights, and we can't believe that most US states don't allow you to take advantage of the maneuverability and width advantage of your motorcycles!
Thank goodness lane splitting is legal in CA. I can't imagine how much longer it would take me to get to work if it wasn't.
in the first minute this video was already reminding me of our One True Queen, Natalie. Fantastic job offering contra-points (😉😉) to the commonly held beliefs on this topic. Love every bit of your content.
Well done. Only x factor unaccounted for is the plain ole cussedness of people; their tendency to try to block or obstruct a rider, increasing the danger and unpredictability of splitting. That said, I support free choice, but personally don't trust cagers enough to try it myself.
Glad it's legal in the UK, can't stand being stuck behind ***that can't even do the speed limit - especially when I'm in a rush.
It’s such a funny thing for a Country like America that brags about its ‘Freedom’ and yet becomes incredibly conservative about stuff like this.
Recently found this channel and wanted to just say so far I enjoy the content. Specifically the crash analysis content it's great. I only been riding for a few years and a bit of the content added things I either didn't think about or know. Thanks for the good content
Razgriz Demon My man! 👍🏻
I'm from Europe and here every one does lane splitting without a problem. Car drivers even open for motorcycles to pass. I don't really understand why in US so many people complain about that. If a car driver can't deal with motorcycles lane splitting they shouldn't even be driving because it's evident they're driving skills must completely suck.
It’s one of those weird things here. Of course, Americans are so America centric, and often don’t know everyone else does it, or if they do, don’t care because if we do it differently then we must know something everyone else doesn’t.
We are pretty silly over here about some things.
I attribute most of it to selfishness. They dont get to so why should anyone else?
Honestly, you probably have one of the best motorcycle channels there is.
It’s too bad UA-cam doesn’t support ‘Good’ content.
Just found your channel. Love how much thought you put into them. Keep it up!
I use to ride 50 miles one way so in an average work week 500 miles, in sunny Southern California. I lane share the whole way except on surface streets. Freeways are safer in my opinion. Everyone is going in the same direction at relatively the same speed. That being said. Lane sharing at 80 when everyone is doing 70 to 75 no big deal. It’s when there is a traffic jam you continue that speed between cars. Which is bad because everyone is trying to find that lane that is less effected by the jam. I’ve had people at least once every quarter, (3months) show their dislike of the advantage motorcyclists have in lane sharing. That’s why I go slow enough to scan head movements and mirror scans of the 4 wheeled folk. They sometimes broadcast their intentions like a poker tell. For example a guy mouthed watched this to all his buddies in the car, as he noticed me coming. Gripped the top of his steering wheel at the 12 o’clock with both hands, stared into his side mirror, and waited. He wasn’t really paying attention to the traffic in front, he closed that gap and had no room to come out far enough to effect me. I rode out far enough to avoid his attempt. This was on an on-ramp to a different freeway, so they have wide shoulders.
As long as I’m going over 20 MPH, I’m good. The high-speed flying between cars is what people who think that lane splitting/lane sharing is a dangerous behavior, when it’s really just for working through slow or stopped traffic.
Tbh, I've been lane splitting and filtering up here in canada since i started riding and even tho its illegal here cagers dont care and even make a space for me if they realize what im trying to do. Cops dont really care unless you do it aggressively.
The main issue is that with it being illegal cagers usually have no idea that im intending to do it. Usually i have to use lane positioning to condition them to leave me room
Hye dude - I have a question. In the video here - 2:26 - The white van crosses the path of the bike. My question is, is that correct? As in with the rules of the road in the US, is that an illegal or legal move?
I can’t speak for all states, but in mine, that would be an illegal lane change because it was done within ~100 feet of the intersection. Demonstrates what most car drivers are afraid of (Even though lots of the time it’s gonna be the car drivers fault for being oblivious).
it seemed like that lane was intended to go straight and the lane to the motorcyclists' left is the left turn lane.
Love the oblivion clip thrown in there lmao
ST releases a new video: today was a good day
Why do you have so few subscribers?
Your content is entertaining yet instructive.
Greetings from Germany. ✌🏼
Well aren’t you kind. It probobly has to do with the fact I don’t make millions of videos to get keyword search (Because I try to do a good job), my videos are longer form (People for the most part don’t have the attention span to stick around past a few minutes), I only ask for likes/subs after delivering something valuable (Instead if asking right up front or multiple times in a video), and I give a nuanced take (Instead of simple validation of peoples opinions).... so I basically forfeit popularity for quality and sincerity.
But hey, you can help fight that by watching, liking and most of all sharing my videos. 🍻
I just started riding in December, and I love your videos. Very informative, please keep it up!
Oh man, and you even watched one of the long weird ones, good on you.
I've been advocating for a tiered license system for years...
Being from California I thought that it was done everywhere. Well, no. I agree with your points. Great Vid. Stay safe.
Lane filtering reduces traffic congestion and helps prevent stupid drivers from rear ending bikes. As for lane splitting, I think its pretty stupid to try and make it between two vehicles because inevitably one of them will try and change lanes without looking or try and squeeze you out. That being said, from an environmental viewpoint its dumb to have a vehicle that can make the gap sitting in traffic taking up space that a car needs to reduce congestion. Personally I think both should be legal. Motorcycles are more dangerous mostly because of stupid car and truck drivers not paying attention. The bike itself isn't really inherently more dangerous if by itself.
I have always split lanes in California. They made it legal here and all of a sudden people started using their rear view mirrors. Now we still get some tourist who drive here and don't turn right at a red light and get jealous of motorcycles that get to cheat. Just or not the reason we do it ,,,,,,,,, Motorcycles are air cooled for the most part. So you have to keep moving to keep from over heating. That is what started it. Blame the CHP because they actually look at it that way or did way back in the day and when off duty they still split lanes and felt it unjust to write tickets for something they do all day long. Then the benefit of motorcycles over cars must have some reward over the danger of riding one around cars.
Lane splitting when done safely obv will reduce traffic, car drivers seeing this will also encourage others to get motorcycles further reducing traffic, and with more motorcyclists around makes the average driver subconsciously more aware of motorcyclists. Making motorcycles a bit safer as well. Its a win win for everyone involved
Imo the blade of knowledge would be balanced if it required UU to equip. You still need a sacrifice outlet to properly make use of it and that restricts the colors by a lot
I just wish this was even a concept in Canada
You could be the person to start that conversation with your legislators.
In Europe and UK this is called 'filtering' and it is totally legal. Motorbikes take up less space and therefore there is no need to restrict them to car width lanes.
It is legal in Australia so good esp on shitty highway traffic. In saying that I wouldn't give 2 fucks, I'd still lane split
You said that motorcycle shouldn't be allowed to lane split between two lanes going opposite directions when its not really dangerous as long as you don't go a insane speed and have common sense. I considered it just like overtaking and it didn't slow anyone else down.
I acknowledge it's not impossible to do safely, but my argument against it is due to the disparity in speed between opposite direction traffic. Even if we are talking arterial streets that are 25MPH, if each vehicle is going only the speed limit this would be a 50 MPH difference which increases the mobility of an accident and severity.
However, if traffic is dense and moving very slowly (We can imagine a large city like New York or London) so that the speed differential is within the 15-25 mph zone, and the road is wide enough to allow it, then I don't have many arguments against it
The real reason car drivers etc get shitty about filtering is because they have to wait...... Tuff shit what's stopping them taking a bike test
Yes, Drugs should be legalized, regulated, quality controlled, and therefore made safer....and, I think we all could agree it'd be better for the revenues of a $500 Billion dollar a year black market go legal, tax paying businesses that settle their disputes in court rather than with weapons.
Cali has all kinds of bullshit restrictions but at least we can be proud that lane splitting is legal here.
Funny how that is. I think it’s a testament to just how bad the traffic is there.
I wish lane splitting was legal in Canada. 😭
I think lane filtering (while traffic is going less then 30km/h) is okay but splitting between cars at highway speeds is the issue since you don't have time to react enough. People will go 140km/h doing a wheelie in bumper to bumper traffic, meanwhile people are slowing trying to change lanes and don't use their signals, it's just not always great
Germany also has lane splitting ban, but Police don't enforce this for simple reason: they realise that you are frying in the sun or soaking wet in the rain which cause more dnger to rider health or life.
I really don't understand all the bills specifying roads that you can cannot split on by speed limit. That seems completely irrelevant if you already have a speed differential limit and a surrounding traffic speed limit in place (not more than 15 mph of surrounding traffic when surrounding traffic is doing 20mph or less, etc). Being able to split on a grid-locked highway is probably one of the most important times to be able to split when it comes to rider safety.
Nice job, as usual. Had to keep pausing the video to read all the notes, but worth it. I'm in CA, so I feel spoiled ... One of the factors that keeps me from moving back home is that I can legally split lanes.
Question:
I think of lane splitting as splitting one lane into two (shoulder riding is an example). Some think it means splitting between two lanes. Thoughts?
Same. I categorize it all under ‘Using available road’. Shoulder riding is probobly more a thing where splitting isn’t legal, so people use the shoulder instead because it seems more comfortable having vehicles on only one side.
Someday lane splitting may be safer. For now drivers have not become accustom to motorcycles riding on the lines. If it is legal, over time drivers will learn and remember a bike could come by at anytime. However, if you look at speeding cars do it all the time with minimal risk compared to speeding while lane splitting. If all obeyed traffic laws then no problem, even with lane splitting or filtering. Until then , ... then may never arrive 💀
4:10 I have a problem with all of those things, actually. But I think that of those that you mentioned only those that cause harm to others should be illegal
Lane splitting IS inherently dangerous. Just because moving slowly in between stopped traffic isn't dangerous doesn't mean that the act itself usually isn't dangerous. Most applications of lane splitting ARE dangerous both to you and the people around you. Like you talk about how there are ways to lane split safely while showing a bunch of videos where the lane-splitting motorcyclist gets into an accident despite being very safe and attentive, because there was simply nothing they could have done. There was no space for them to maneuver and they had no time to react because they have practically no visibility in that tiny gap.
thanks for this! I enjoyed this with my breakfast haha!
Actions should not be illegal, it should be up to the individual to judge the dangers to themselves / others of their actions and make their own choice, however the consequences of performing a dangerous action should be severe if they cause harm to others, e.g riding at 150+ mph if nobody is harmed then the rider has judged the situation correctly and should face no punishment because nobody was harmed, if the same rider is doing 150mph but hits someone causing them harm then they should be punished not just for crashing but for the dangerous action they have performed
The argument you hear to this is that ‘Some people have bad judgement, so the law disincentives reckless behavior’, which I understand on its face.
I don’t agree that a persons judgement can be based entirely on the results, and we do need to take other situational context into consideration to make a value statement on ‘Jusgement’. The person driving 150 though traffic without crashing can’t say that it’s entirely their judgement to thank, they have relied on other drivers awareness of the situation and plain luck to avoid that crash, as they could not have reacted to an unexpected driver behavior at that speed.
Instead of reducing freedom though, I would rather focus on improving people’s judgement and skills.
@@SquidTips I agree it's not just judgment that determines the result of a action as you say, I'm deffinatley in the camp of if it doesn't cause harm to anyone it shouldn't be a crime though but anyone could argue these points forever and people do, anyway great content as usual Matt from the workshop sent me here and I've binge watched all your content and I'm hooked
Here's another question for those who oppose special privilege for motorcycles: should big trailer trucks be allowed in left lanes on highways, and all local streets?
That squid font tho! fire
If you ride a bike in a free state, you should absolutely stay strapped lest yee get clapped. People are crazy out of their minds on the roads.
A fellow destiny viewer and motorcyclist... Welcome to the club I guess...
There are literally dozens of us.
Squid Tips oh shit I had no idea
I like the way you break down 'fair'. Here in the UK it is legal but also not encouraged in your riding test. It's kind of a grey area because it is not mentioned in our Highway code, meaning it's not a practise they endorse but on the other hand, the Highway code doesn't say you can't do it. Many people pull over to the side to give you more room or to create a space for you to get by. However the other view on fair comes in and people do everything they can to cut your space down or block you in so you cannot get past, sometimes going to lengths of what would be considered dangerous driving just to stop you from making progress they can't. We also have obligatory no mirror users or texting drivers as I am sure you do in the States. The rule for a biker filtering in the UK from a law perspective is that it must be done with "due care and attention" that can be quite a subjective topic for opinion but it generally works and whilst you do get the odd fool riding like an idiot the same is true for car drivers as well. I split between ongoing traffic, but I make sure I've always got somewhere to get safe at all times, should the need arise with large vehicles coming the opposite way. That being said, if I feel the risk is quite high or feel as though my actions will impact someone else (causing them to swerve) I'll just sit and wait, I'm not in a rush to go to hospital or the grave.
I did find that ‘Do it safely’ clause in the U.K. rule to be irritating, I wonder how many people feel unfairly targeted by that? It seems culturally the law enforcement in the U.K. is less... aggressively authoritarian? So maybe less abuse happens there.
Lots of people confuse ‘Legalize’ with ‘Require’ and you’ve given a perfect example of how you can opt-in and out with your comfort level in each situation.
@@SquidTips Hmm interesting point. I've filtered past lots of Police and none have cared. That being said, in the UK you can be pulled over for literally any reason, including no reason at all and you are required to stop and produce your licence if asked. You get the usual mix of Police from Firm and Fair to Power hungry bully. Most of us on sportbikes are mostly targets because of noisy exhausts more than anything, but 120db v-twin Harley riders never seem to be pulled at all. Police usually don't have sound testing equipment so it usually boils down to having a massive amount of your time wasted lol
Yo. Been riding for awhile off and on but first time riding legit licensed. Fact checking, can motorcycles ride the left shoulder legally but not lane split in Seattle?
Not yet.
I mean yeah the card you showed at 8:55 isn’t real, but we do have skullclamp…
Wow! You really let your inner nerd out with this vid. I hope you can write off that outfit. You do a great job of thoroughly stating this case. Maybe even a little too thorough for the general public. Perhaps you should seek out some law makers and present them with this argument.
That’s actually how this video began; As a tool people could use to send to lawmakers to try to persuade them to vote for lane splitting legislation.
But then I realized that most lawmakers probobly wouldn’t watch a video unless it was insanely boring and bereft of entertainment value, or specifically designed to target them. On top of that, elected officials are just delegates for the population, and so the real solution is to educate a broader audience so that they can make their own case.
In the end, I’m one person, but somehow likeminded people find themselves watching my videos. I believe that if I can arm people with the information and arguments that’s are strong and logically consistent, then they will better be able to push for legislation than I can as one person.
13:30 people like this give me a headache. How about you use a damn turn signal? Lane splitting doesn't mean we just wanna fly down the road in between cars without paying attention. If a motorcyclist notices someone signaling, they can take them into account and slow down accordingly.
Made it t the end of the video.
"should we allow dangerous things in society"
I think a lot of people would legitimately say no, that the government should outlaw dangerous things. Fireworks, guns, motorcycles, etc are all hot topics
I don’t have a problem assessing each one by one on their merits, but many people struggle to even have the language to begin discussing risk and danger.
@@SquidTips Agreed, unfortunately it's frustrating that people can't even begin to discuss things before they completely shut down. Especially when their point of view isn't "Educate the population to make better decisions" but "force the government to take away freedom until nobody can hurt themselves"
what a great video
And someday people who need to see it in order to change the laws in this country might see it
It is legal here in South Australia but only for the last year.
Does it seem like people have ‘Gotten used to it’?
Yes the cars are becoming used to it now be it did take time.
I'd like to add to the video though just a thought. I live in rural Wisconsin and the weathered roads even the dual lane ones would be dangerous due to middle of roads and in between lanes have ruts and holes often. But it's not the norm but would be a reason to limit the legality in my area.
If that stuff exists I think you could either improve road conditions, or maybe put up a sign of some form like ‘Caution Motorcycles: Poor road conditions for X miles’. As long as you are driving slowly, even gravel and metal can be fine if you are taking precautions. But I’m guessing traffic is less of an issue in your area, so it’s less likely to even be something a rider would want to do.
Yep like I said it's definitely outside norm but it could be something (assuming politicians even have that much logical forethought) that average road conditions of the state could be taken into account when deciding that. I won't lie never paid attention to the subject much. Also yeah on poor roads it would still allow rider to decide for themselves if they think they can. But just thought it may be another reason they haven't yet. I fully agree with all the points you made though don't get me wrong. I also always been a fan of not having laws to protect err umm stupid (but I'm harsh about that I guess).
Okay. I’m new to your channel. I just found this video... So, here in California where everything is illegal but “LANE SHARING”! Lane splitting is illegal because, splitting a lane is basically riding the yellow line(s)down the middle of two lanes going in the opposite directions! So yes it should not be done! I’ve had to share this with a CHP (California Highway Patrol) at work. Maybe I’m being literal but let’s be clear. Splitting is bad and sharing is caring. Otherwise what else do they call going between two vehicles when one of them is going in the opposite direction than you? Dangerous and illegal! If someone has the answer I sincerely would like to know. And I’ll shit down and shut up. So, far I’m enjoying your channel! PEACE!
ah oops.... sit down ....
That is called overtaking and not lane splitting since you are lane splitting if you are riding between two lanes that are going in the same direction. What you said is very common in Europe and Asia check out the royal Jordanian if you want to see what I mean.
Great vid alex. You should do some more vids going after that cyclecruza guy. I'm in a couple fb moto groups and his vids would get poster there sometimes. They are so hilariously bad, I think you would really enjoy countering some of his half a brain cell takes. Check out the one he did on milennial ruining motorcycles for one.
I started a big project, and burned a couple of weeks on it before tabling it. He’s done some really dumb stuff recent that’s made me want to pick that project back up....
@@SquidTips oh please do it! It always amazes me how this dude can spew pure fucking nonsense for a whole video and get away with it without having anyone contest any of his "points".
@@cds8974 people realize he won't change his mind so no point arguing with him.
Long live the order of the sacred squid! :)
It's legal here in Holland aswell. :)
It was actually harder for me to find places it was illegal than legal.... it’s basically only illegal in the US and Canada.
I think everyone needs to drive a 2 wheel vehicle for at least a year. I think that alone would make drivers better when they get to cars.
It seems like thats basically what Europe does.
Nailed it!
Agree to disagree. I stand by my comments on your first lane splitting video. Further I am disappointed with what you said about the Motorcycle Safety Foundation, the ONLY cyclist group that does all they do for the safety of all motorcyclists. Take care.
I appreciated your arguments previously, and they really formed the backbone for how I came at this argument. I also like the MSF, they do great work, I simply don’t believe in not educating people on tactics and strategies is because of mixed legality. They do have several statements supporting lane splitting, I just think they should take the next logical step in an effort to encourage sage splitting.
Ironically I just completed an MSF course and they covered the topic of lane splitting and acknowledged how it's controversial, yet legal in CA, yet not "officially sanctioned". They also covered how and when to safely lane split and how and when not to and that it had the potential to actually improve rider safety in cases where the rider has the skill level and confidence to execute properly and judiciously.
The fact is, I plan to lane split when I acquire that comfort level and I only plan to do it during standstill traffic… or if highway traffic is moving at less than 10 mph. As a cautious, aware, and conscientious CAR driver, I'm dismayed by how many close calls I've nonetheless had as well as witnessed among my fellow car drivers during stop and go traffic. Drivers get worn out and tired after driving in slow highway traffic for a whole hour. They think everyone is moving along at 5mph only to suddenly realize that the car in front of them has come to a full stop and they have to slam on their brakes.
I refuse to be a part of any such sandwiches.
Cars are too big and heavy and hard to maneuver to put my safety into the hands of tired commuters, distracted soccer moms in giant SUVs, and tractor-trailer truckers trying to save on brakes and fuel and make good time. People tailgate (around here at least), in a very, very bad way. I'm not going to play that game. If I were to allow myself to become a victim to other people's bad driving, regardless of whether my behavior is illegal, legal, or otherwise… I would say "shame on me". I value my life over fairness, convenience, ettiequte, or law. Lane splitting, for me, is not just about making better time and wasting less fuel, thereby benefitting the planet… it's also about me ALWAYS maintaining an active escape route from the constantly expanding and compressing traffic at slow speeds.
The fact is, if you're stopped, it's much harder to make an escape than if you're already in motion. If you're stopped, you're also likely getting worn down and lulled into being less attentive to driving and start thinking about other stuff or looking at billboards or the lady doing her eyes next to you. At the opposite extreme… if you're always moving slightly faster than everyone else, it's easier to control your own fate; you always have options to you available to maneuver; your brain is warmed up and paying attention; modest momentum is always in your favor vs the inertia of standing still -or having to micro-manage constantly changing speeds which are all slow enough that you could find yourself alternating between walking your bike and driving it.
Because even at just 10mph, a 2500 lb car is gonna hurt really bad. Especially if there's another one stopped in front of you or trying to change lanes just as the one behind you is not keeping a healthy distance and the one in front of you has stopped. Better to already be in a "lane" where you can proactively act as well as react quickly to accelerate or slow down without fear (or sometimes ditch into one of the real lanes if need be). Even as a car driver, I've always endeavored to avoid being without escape routes. I always try to position myself and drive in such a way as to avoid being locked in by surrounding drivers… most of whom are totally not even mentally present.
Let me ask you this, for the sake of the thought experiment: imagine you're a pedestrian walking on the highway during bumper to bumper traffic that's barely moving. Pretend this is the reality you live in… where cars and pedestrians intermingle, and cars are always stuck in traffic not moving more than 10mph, and they're coming to near and full stops frequently such that you can basically walk at the same speed as them. Would you dutifully stay within the confines of a car lane and hope they see you? Hope for the best? Would you feel that you would be safer moving in their lanes but spending orders of magnitude more time sharing the road with them than by walking a path between them and avoiding them as much as possible and also shortening the time you spend sharing the road with them drastically? Wouldn't you allow yourself the freedom of jumping off to the side and walking between and around them as needed? Which do you feel is the safer option?
Thats good to hear they acknowledged it in CA at least.
well it only took me 5 days, but here I am
You just wanted to be the 69'th like.
i honestly should have realized this
I love living in Cali. Lane spliting all day!
Rub it in 😤
So if you change lanes and kill a biker when he is lain splitting how the hell is that the car's fault. You cant SEE THEM. And yes, I will change lanes at 15mph.
Seems reasonable to me.
I agree. Now to convince 250 million people that don’t ride....
The "fairness" debate is childish... like guess what?... life isn't fair
I'm fine with lane splitting as long as it's understood that the biker is going be at fault 90% of the time. Bikers are entitled to a full lane width, but so are the cars on the road. If you invade my lane, or lane split while I'm changing lanes (while using my indicators of course) and we collide, then I'm not paying for any of your property or personal damage and your probably gonna be paying for damage to my car. You are the one accepting the danger, not me.
I can agree to this fully.
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🤣😂 lmfao great information
12:36 here in Brazil the license works like that and still they are bad drivers
What’s the training look like? On the US it’s basically just a skills test, and there are some short periods where people have ‘beginners’ licenses with restrictions (Can only have family as passengers, no driving at night, etc).
Maybe you’ve got the framework, but the bar for each is too low.
@@SquidTips there ain't no training, you just need to not be ticketed for a year and you are fine
@@SquidTips and you can't get a license without going to a driving school, even if you know how to drive
@@SquidTips you start with A (just motorcycles) or B (just small cars) after a year of B driving license you can be upgraded to C for bigger cars and you can drive small trucks, then, after 2 years of C you can upgrade to D for bigger trucks and small buses, and after 2 years of D you need to take another driving test and and you can upgrade to E so you can drive semis and buses.
For each upgrade you take 3 months of driving lessons
5:04 🤣🤣🤣🤣
that font gave me cancer
You get used to it, just like cancer.
I ride offensively.
My football coach had the philosophy of ‘Play offense on defense’, AKA an aggressive defense looking to make shit happen. That’s how I’d deserve my riding style
You lane split at your own risk. I don't trust car and truck drivers enough to put myself at needless risk. The fact that it's only "legal" in CA, supports my stance, since the other 99% of the country just watches what CA does, then does the opposite and remains normal. As far as I know, there is no mandated distance that cars and trucks are required to leave between them while remaining within their lanes, so what makes motorcyclists so sure they will leave enough distance between them for a lane splitting squid on a farkled-out Hayabusa with 6" frame sliders? It just pisses off the car and truck drivers around them and who wants that (see any car vs bike road rage video)? Stay in your lane, wait your turn and shut up. If Californians can't get to work on time, either move to a normal state or leave your home earlier. Not rocket science.
Your totally right, it is a risk, and the rider is the one that will pay the price if it doesn’t work out. There is no mandated distance between cars because roads are varying widths based on age, location, and purpose, so riders choosing to split must develop a sense for when it is safe and when it is not.
Most people looking to lane split aren’t looking to do it at 25+ MPH; It’s for when traffic is at a crawl due to the various inefficiencies of the many highway systems across the nation. The more locations that allow splitting/filtering behaviors the more proper we can get operating smaller, more fuel efficient vehicles that reduce overall traffic. It’s a win/win for cars and bikes for anyone who can take a moment to consider the higher level implications, and overcome their initial misplaced anger at the ‘Unfairness’ of the act.
It may not be the majority of states in the US, but most countries in the world allow Lane Splitting. We are the outlier.
@@SquidTips Yup, I get it and I travel all over the world on business. The riders are on the losing end in all of them. Most of Europe is okay, as their drivers are more respectful of bikes and conscious of how they drive, but you should see some of the third-world mayhem...I've seen many a dead motorcyclist/scooter rider in those countries, so just because they can do it, doesn't mean they'll live to brag about the 10 minutes they saved riding to work and doesn't mean that we should follow suit.
It's unsafe because the least little debris in the street will knock you into the vehicles your passing, not to mention people that don't ride aren't looking for a bike that's riding on the dividing line. For me it isn't worth being laid up or laid to rest.
Ya this video is too long
Yeah, sometimes when you put an idea out there, especially a philosophical one that doesn’t exist anywhere else, it takes a bit longer to build the case up because I can’t assume any of my baseline beliefs are justified to the viewer.
Squid Tips for sure. I gotta respect the effort in the vid. Subbed and liked
Help pass Texas Senate Bill 288
I know this is an older video but does anyone know how I can help legalize lane splitting? At least in a city or county. I live where the rod run is and it can take hours to go a couple miles
Gotta find local political leaders who are interested in introducing legislation. I talk about it a bit in this video:
ua-cam.com/video/DuDqLsZC12c/v-deo.html
Just take the initiative and do it and other motorcyclists who didn't want to be the only ones will as well. Precedent, normalization and enforcement/non-enforcement are all that rule us anyway