I think it's worth noting that in the MCU trilogy they've called it the "tingle" or the "Peter tingle" but when Green Goblin talks about it as a character from a universe where it's probably been called the "Spider sense" he refers to it by saying "that's some neat trick that sense of yours." Just another fun multiverse thing.
IRONICALLY the only person to ever call it "spider-sense" in ANY SPIDER-MAN MOVIE if you think about it was Raimi's Venom when he sarcastically said "my spider-sense is tingling" when he had MJ in spider-man 3.....
Fun fact, that was ad-libbed. The script didn't have a specific line for DaFoe and they told him to do what came naturally. It ended up actually kind of scaring the other people in the room.
I still think that slap was the reason Norman wanted to kill May. Not because Spidey, but because May was policing him for table manners. (Suddenly, I'd like to see what he would have tried to pull on Cap over language.)
Just like May did in the original Spiderman. When he tried to pick at the sweet potatoes she was carrying to the table. She slapped his hand and then told them to say grace.
Something I noticed: Peter’s reaction to Strange saying “their sacrifice means infinitely more than their lives” is a big character moment for him. Up until this Film Peter has held all of the older mcu heroes on a pedestal, he looked up to them in the way that a kid tends to look up to his childhood heroes and he looked to heroes like Strange and even Tony for guidance. But at that moment Peter realizes how flawed heroes like strange can really be in their thinking and you can 100% see it in his face when he decides he can’t rely on them to make the calls he thought they were best at making.
Yeah, I hate how the MCU has stripped Strange of all his appeal from his first movie (a literal doctor sworn to the hippocratic oath) and slowly made him a souless arbiter who sits on his hands and lets people die at every other turn because "balance." Really glad Peter stuck it to him and helped cure the villains, even when it was at his own expense to do so. Now THAT'S true hero stuff from our friendly neighborhood spider guy.
@@RacingSnails64 I mean, that's kind of Strange's arc in this movie. He ends up joining with Peter in the end, realizing he was right. In part it could be a generational/area of stem divide they have. Strange is a Gen X doctor, used to dealing with incurable diseases and the reality that the world is far from perfect and many suffer, he's at times disillusioned. But Peter brings the at times maybe naive optimism of a "lets figure out how to save the world through the power of exponentially better technology and figuring out solutions previous generations could never have thought of". This is seen through the mirror dimension, a place Strange brought Peter to because he thought magic reigns supreme there and he could control the situation. But Peter found a way to look beyond that and use his math skills to figure it out. Steven is used to reading about cures and procedures in books and carrying them out flawlessly, albeit, to use them in creative ways (such as by creating the time loop for Dormammu), while Peter is the one who has to create new technology and sciency stuff by himself to solve his problems (creating his spider-fluid, designing the new suits in Far From Home, and creating the cures in this movie). Similarly, Strange is rigid about certain lines because of the hero-perspective he has, that of protecting the Earth from the mystic dangers, ensuring timelines don't get messed up, ensuring the Multiverse doesn't rip apart. His learned skill brings with it the rules that don't allow for the creative problem solving that Peter uses, such as suggesting a spell that makes everyone forget Peter. It's not that he has forgotten his hippocratic oath, but Peter wanted him to risk the Multiverse to save people who have already died and are a threat to currently living people. It goes against everything Strange has learned. In this movie, Peter learns about the risks with such an approach, like death, such as with Aunt May's death, but in the end (thanks to Tobey-Peter) he gets past it. The difficult part here is that it has been a while since Strange has had a him-movie, mostly appearing in ensemble films or those where he's not the main character, which doesn't help see his development, but going forwards to Multiverse of Madness, I suspect that learning from his mistakes in Far From Home will be an important part of the movie.
@@RacingSnails64 I think you’re looking too deep in the wrong places, it’s not that strange was “soulless”, it’s more about the fact that his view was warped by his grand knowledge of the wider universe and that’s ALWAYS been present in Strange’s character throughout comics and the mcu. I mean this is a character who at one point forcefully sent Bruce Banner to live on a secluded planet because he thought he was a danger to society.
@@RacingSnails64 Yeah. While I like the role that Strange plays in NWH, going from DOCTOR Strange to this cold a calculator felt a little incongruous. Hopefully they tackle this more in Doctor Strange 2: I think that what Strange had to do in Infinity War (i.e. sacrificing half the universe and Stark for the greater good) could be framed as the event that affects his view of the calculus.
I love Norman being a "good guy" at first so much because it just adds so much tension to everything. _We_ know he's a villain, _we_ know his goodness won't last, but Peter doesn't. He's a ticking bomb and we have no idea when it'll go off. It itches at the back of your mind, it doesn't let you relax even when stuff is going right, I love it.
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I'd also say that it's more terrifying because we want him to be good (but also we want and love him as a villain). It felt so nice seeing him as nice ol' Norman that I almost fully believed it like Peter did. I am so glad I was tricked though because every Green Goblin scene in this film is wonderful❤❤❤
20:07 This was the moment that freaked me out in theatres. As Peter keeps punching him, Goblin doesn't ignore the pain. He embraces it, because now he knows he can break this Spider Man.
Saw another comment earlier that said that the reason Goblin is smiling isn’t because he’s batshit insane (I mean he is) but it’s because he is noticing how much Peter is pulling his punches. Goblins smile is him realizing he can exploit Peters mercy
I love how when Peter fixes Otto, they specifically kept it a secret from us fans who knew where to look by cleverly not showing the lights on the claws, since that’s the give away as to who is in control. Red = Claws are in control. White = Otto is in control. Blue = Peter/Iron Spider is in control. So when us keen eyed fans were drastically searching for a hint of the lights, they kept them hidden so we wouldn’t know if it worked or not until they wanted to reveal it. Pretty clever… clever and devious!
A detail that not a lot of people have pointed out is that Strange’s spell initially had two rings, meaning that Strange wanted to remember who Peter was and that’s adorable ok bye
And you see, I read that completely differently. I see it as more of Strange's ego, that it's knowledge that he won't let himself lose. I mean ego, and the fact that it could be knowledge he may need someday in the future.
“Leave me out of this(the spell?)” -Wong I’ve heard some people say that Wong still knows who Peter is, and I’d be curious to see the conclusion in whatever Spider-Man movie comes next. Not sure if it’s true but it would be cool nonetheless.
In fairness, in that movie I don’t think he did. He said it with such an uncaring voice, it’s like when your uncle gives you your first beer at 15. “Yeah I’m technically not supposed to do this but I don’t care”
I really appreciate the balance the movie struck with the other Peters and villains. My biggest fear was that they would either barely show up or steal the movie away from the main characters, but no. They all have plenty of screen time, but it’s very much still MCU Peter’s movie.
This! Honestly, while I'm hyped for Multiverse of Madness, I'm a TOUCH concerned that they won't have the same balance that this film had. However, having said that, I'm not TOO worried, as No Way Home and Civil War have both shown us that they know how to do fanservice, but only in service of the main character and their stories. I'm pretty sure it'll be the same for Multiverse :)
I feel like it's not even the balance of screentime, cause I'd still be happy with more of it, it's the way the characters feel like they're there FOR MCU Peter, that their role in the story is to help give him a new perspective on his role as Spiderman, and show him the paths his life could take. There was plenty of fan service and goofs, but ultimately their time was centred around MCU Peter, and that really helped maintain the balance.
19:18 "Norman's on sabbatical, honey" I really appreciate the idea/detail that even his Goblin self takes care to avoid using the phrase "out" when referring to his better half not being present since it was "You're out, Norman" that pushed him to taking the serum in the first place (which was then further rubbed in when he made the poor choice of using the same phrasing in his bid to tempt Spiderman into an alliance and got rejected.) It's such a subtle thing, wouldn't surprise me if Dafoe himself remembered after all this time since he enjoys this role so much.
I love how Happy just takes in peter as soon as the crisis with his identity being leaked hits. He does actually care for Peter, may just dumped him but he still immediately offers his apartment for Peter to have genuine shelter from the press and people out to get him. I think outside of may dying, Peter losing Happy as a confidant and ally sucks the most, I loved their relationship in this trilogy. Especially when you consider that when Tony was still alive Happy couldn’t give less of a shit what Peter was doing lol, but now he’s really come to love him and wants to help him grow as a hero.
Honestly the Spider-Sense scene in the apartment is a masterclass in suspense film-making because I was butt-clenched and cold-sweating the whole shot. It's so perfectly done, it's flawlessly timed. For the first time *ever*, you get to feel what the Spider-Sense feels like; fear. Fear by the pricking of your thumbs, the knife-edge on a standing hair. Absolutely stellar shit.
That moment when Peter's spider sense is going haywire in the condo, with all the effects surrounding that scene, gave me chills. Looking back, I love the idea that Peter sensed the moment Norman switched to the Green Goblin, and the Goblin is such a threat to Peter on a scale he's never felt before that it nearly overloaded his spidey sense and he couldn't tell where it was coming from. Willem Dafoe's amazing performance when he's found out as Goblin also really sold the whole thing. I love MCU Spidey so nothing against him, but as a big fan that grew up on the Raimi movies, its a nice nod to how Tobey's Spider-Man and his villains are almost in a different league to what Holland's Spidey has had to face.
@@iankincaid7630 I assume in the case of Thanos, Peter was briefed by Tony and Stephen on the ship over to Titan, and he didn't have to fight him solo. In NWH Peter is running the show and is surrounded by supervillains that could turn on him and Aunt May if he isn't careful, and when Goblin came out Peter's sense went nuts but it doesn't tell him exactly what the threat is hence his confusion and needing to look around, before he trusts his instincts.
Sorry to be the nay-sayer here, but when Peter's Spider sense was going haywire, Norman had already been taken over by the Goblin for a while. Green Goblin took over Norman right after Otto made the comment about no more darker half. Green Goblin was the one setting off the Spider sense, but it wasn't because of the switch, it was because that was the moment he was about to cut the act and get violent.
@@TomoInAMask Whether or not you're right, I'm still mainly talking about Norman's threat level on Peter's radar was overwhelming coming from a vaguely 'unknown' source.
Also a huge thing about Doctor Strange!!! The fact that Strange can control the mirror dimensions on that MASSIVE! of a level without using power from the Dark Dimensions shows how absurdly powerful he has become. There a theory going around that when Strange faced off against Dormamu he was there for years and years perfecting his spells. Hence why he held his own against Thanos
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One moment I'll never forget is that, in the cinema, when Goblin said "That's some neat trick, that sense of yours." There was a collective gasp. I've never heard an audience be so collectively shocked.
A detail you forgot that you probably wont notice when it happens again: Peter's spidey sense did not go off when the brick came through the window becasue Matt was sure to catch it. This happens again later when Otto grabs all three Spidermen at once and none of them dodge it because they were not in danger, just part of Otto's trick against Max.
I think the cackle when Tom hitting Dafoe deserves another win because, hell, based on the interview, it was a unscripted and Dafoe just channels his inner Goblin
Finally someone else noticed the spidey sense lines, I haven't seen anyone else talk about those anywhere. Wavy lines around his head is traditionally how the spidey sense was depicted in the comics, except usually in solid bold colors. It's basically a direct callback to the classic Ditko artstyle. I had a feeling CinemaWins would catch that, very nice.
Thanks for logically dissecting and analyzing this movie without over the top fanboying. Can't stand those goofy videos that only says this movie is good because it's good. Can't wait for part 2.
while i find the video really hard to watch just because its unfunny, the point of the channel isn't to logically dissect and analyse movies. Like how Cinemasins doesn't point out valid flaws.
@@MegaWolfGaming comparing this channel to cinema sins is a pretty big insult considering this one acknowledges a lot of fair points in films, and is self aware, when cinema sins is just trying to crack jokes and piss people off. They feign ignorance so they can criticise more.
@@DanielLovesArt I will never understand why people always cry so hard about CinemaSins. The entire point of that channel is to say stupid things that don't make sense. They literally tell you that they aren't trying to be critics, they're just dicking around. I don't like watching CinemaSins either but I honestly don't understand why people treat a joke channel so seriously
What I enjoy about Dr. Strange’s point of view is that it actually closely mimics an omniscient, objective rationalist - which is precisely the audience’s perspective. “They’re sacrifice means more than their lives” is something that the pure humanist Peter Parker can’t stomach, but it’s exactly what the audience believes because we’ve seen each character’s villainy before. Strange also clearly cares for Peter specifically, from being willing to cast the forgetfulness spell in the first place to intentionally including himself in those who will not forget Peter’s identity. Bottom line, I love that Strange’s beliefs and reactions not only are reflective of the audience’s (creating greater contrast for quiet tension as well as euphoria for their redemptions), but also staying consistent with his character as well - one who only obeys the rules when he doesn’t have a dog in the fight.
William Dafoe is by far the star of the middle third of this movie and a large part of the final fight. He seems like such a genuinely broken man as Norman, and him smashing the mask was extremely satisfying. And the way Green Goblin takes over is beautiful. The fact that he's only caught because of Peter's spidey sense is terrifying in its own right, but that entire sequence leading up to the reveal he was back was beautiful. "Norman's on sabbatical honey" is one of the best lines in the whole film.
This movie is such a love letter to Spider-Man!!!! I loved how all the characters were treated, my biggest fear was that Tobey, Andrew and the villains were just going to be treated as fan service. But they all had their own little arcs in this movie. Andrew was able to save MJ after failing to save Gwen. And Tobey stopped Peter from taking a life, something Tobey failed to do with Uncle Ben's killer. Each villain had their own moment to shine. Sorry for how long this will be, but Spider-Man is my favorite Hero ever!!! And I can't believed how well Marvel was able to pull this off. They brought back all these characters from different Spider-Man movies and was still able to tell it's own story for Tom's Peter/Spider-Man. Willem Dafoe will never stop scaring me with his Green Goblin. Alfred Molina was just as threating and Complex as he was in Spider-Man 2. Jamie Foxx wasn't blue and had some of the best lines and jokes in the movie. I'm so excited to see where they take Tom's Peter next, I LOVE THE MCU!!!! P.S. was not expecting Charlie Coxx to be in this movie "I'm a really good Lawyer" Still gets me.
The interesting thing about NWH to me is the more I watch it the more the moments you’d expect to get the biggest reactions in theatres become less hype and in a normal scenario that would cause my perception of the film to change and think it wasn’t as good as I thought it was but it’s actually allowed me to appreciate the small moments even more making it even better
I also love that in the OG Spider-Man movie, you can tell that right as Peter lets the glider hit Norman and he passes away, it just crushes him. He immediately hangs his head in shame, and you feel like in NWH he finally gets redemption for that moment, in a way.
Yeah the stakes for this movie were HIGH . They could've messed up bad bad . But they didn't . The movie was quite good . Not as good as Infinity War or Endgame for me , but it was great. Also , Jamie Fox not being blue being used as a plus point to the movie is literally the best thing I've read in a while lol 😂😂
William Dafoe's performance of Green Goblin is so incredible that I'm sad he's stuck to the multiverse one-off. I'd love to see him get more time like Loki got. Also, someone pointed out to me a great moment in the GG/Spidey hallway fight. When Peter is punching Norman in the face, after a few hits Norman shows a big smile and at first I thought it was just cause he's crazy, BUT we know how strong Peter is and that's when Norman realized how much he's pulling his punches. Norman knows he can exploit Peter's mercy, make him suffer, punish his morality.
The reason they snicker at Doc Ock's name isn't the alliteration. It's because they are smart (nerds) and a guy with 8 arms whose last name is octavius (literally "of eight") is hilarious (and the alliteration is the cherry on top)
It just occured to me, how Tom's Spiderman Great responsibility speech has quite a different implication. In all three cases he hears it as a last thing from the respective aunt/uncle before they die. But where Tobey's uncle dies after he lets a criminal go (despite being very easily able to stop him) And Andrew's uncle dies, because Andrew is too busy being sassy with the criminal a police and bailing on his uncle despite making a promise. Tom does nothing wrong. He did the right thing. He went far beyond trying to do the right thing and still, this course of action leads to May dying. Could this be the reason why he is got so close to killing the Goblin? Because, he could blame only him and not himself like Tom and Andrew? Cool detail, it has not occured to me untill now.
I interpret it slightly differently. With the first two it's clearly their call to action. Telling them "If you stand by and don't do anything, bad things will happen". But Holland's Spider-Man has known that since before Civil War. For him it's a reminder that great responsibility sometimes means great cost. Aunt May is making a heroic sacrifice, and this is Peter's call to do the same, which he does at the end of the film
Those smiles William Defoe delivers in between each punch Peter is throwing at his face at full strength,is haunting. But it’s more brilliant than anything.
20:07 This is such a great part of the fight. Holland's Peter stopping, and just looking so confused because.. that's the first time he actually had to deal with a proper crazy evil villain. Obviously, the others were all evil, but they always had a proper plan, were more "reasonable", or were people who just went down some wrong paths. Goblin? Just straight-up evil and crazy.
When I watched it in theatres, we cheered when Charlie Cox appeared. I like this new green goblin outfit. It allows Willem Dafoe to go all in with the facial expressions.
I wholeheartedly agree with the facial expressions. The goblin mask honestly robbed of true sinister nature and psyco that Green Goblin is. Being able to see his face adds a whole new layer to it all.
I just realized at 10:31 when the pumpkin grenade is thrown by Green Goblin, it actually changes course while rolling because of a pebble! I never realized this and I've seen this movie a dozen times at least! Great attention to detail!
Was crying for pretty much the entire movie, the entire cinema went insane when Daredevil showed up and it just didn't stop, this movie has all the wins. As soon as Dafoe started talking about May i began crying again i knew she would die within the next few minutes 😭
I love how the marvel logo Constantly evolves with each project they do it’s truly unnecessary but totally Awesome and shows that the team behind the mcu really cares about the universe they built
Something I think deserves an extra win is that in homecoming the Death Star was destroyed and in nwh another Death Star was destroyed. The darth star was destroyed in the 1st and 3rd film just like the Star Wars originals
There’s this really fun theory I found about why other characters from the Tobey-verse and the Amazing films don’t show up. We know Gwen & Harry knew Peter 3 was Spider-Man. We also know MJ & Harry knew Peter 2 was Spider-Man (and it’s heavily implied Aunt May knew as well). Do you know what they all have in common? They were all exceptions in the spell (Aunt May, Peter’s girlfriend and his best friend). Combine that with the apparent multiverse consciousness of Venom, and you’ve got a perfectly good explanation of why only those people from those universes (other universes not withstanding) showed up and no one else. I don’t remember who said it, but it was a really cool idea
That is a really cool idea! I think the symbiote developing a sort of hive mind makes sense too and explains why Tom Hardy’s venom would show up and not SM3’s.
@@소준호-f9s I'm gonna guess here and say that it's because a version of the "best friend", "love interest", and Aunt May already exist (and know about Peter) in the MCU universe?
@@aionicthunder that is a good response! Far too few would not take the credit on the internet and I have seen the same theory as well but is in the same situation of not remembering from where :D
I realize that "With great power..." is iconic and has to be included, it's just... he's been living that philosophy since before Tony recruited him. "When you can do the things that I can, but you don't, and then the bad things happen, they happen because of you."
Well yeah but you don’t just learn a lesson once and then automatically always follow through with it the rest of your life without struggling or having doubts. It’s about fighting the temptation to not go against your core values, even if it feels more convenient. Peter 2 goes through this in his own movies. First movie, he learns “With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility” and he sticks with it till the end of the film. In the sequel he struggles with his new responsibility and even gets to the point where he briefly quits being Spider-Man and has a dream with uncle Ben and says “I’m Spider-Man no more” and rejects Ben’s message. It isn’t until he sees the consequences of not having those principles does he Redon the mask. With NWH (and really the Home trilogy in general) it’s something that echoes that, but doesn’t let Peter 1 reject the mask. Before Civil War, he’s already learned that lesson and his doing his best to stick to it. In Homecoming he sacrifices a date with his crush and a chance of popularity at a party to stop the Vulture and his goons. In Infinity War, he jumps out a bus to fight aliens that he has never experienced before and goes to frickin space to help fight them. He even dies on an alien plant (granted given that the snap was random it’s likely that still would’ve happened even if he never intervened) but luckily comes back after being gone for 5 years in Endgame. It’s not as prevalent in Far From Home, as it deals more with him building his confidence and shedding the weight of expectations after the death of Iron Man (his mentor and father figure) but there are still aspects of it scattered throughout like when Peter 1 abandons MJ and almost ruins his reputation in class to go fight the Elementals. But by the end, he’s in a place that’s almost too good. He feels secure in his identity, he’s got a girlfriend who knows his identity along with the 3 other people who he’s closest with (Ned, Happy, and May), and he’s got access to a lot of what Tony left behind for him. I’m not complaining about Far From Home’s ending, I actually really like it (partly because of its wholesomeness), primarily because it makes what comes next even more devastating. His identity gets outed, the people he cares most for are paying for it, his reputation is pretty much ruined, nearly all of his tech is taken away (minus two of his suits), and now there are 5 super villains, all of whom know his identity and his loved ones that end up causing him more problems. Throughout the movie, Strange was trying to get him to abandon his principles and just let them die because it’d be more convenient. Peter 1 is so dedicated to upholding his values that May (and presumably MCU Ben as well) taught him that even tries to fight Strange in the mirror dimension (and wins!) to uphold them. It isn’t until Goblin goes rogue and pretty ruins everything for Peter 1, AGAIN, that he nearly reaches his breaking point. After all the things Peter 1 has experienced in his 6 MCU appearances (as well as prior to Civil War) it’s honestly kinda amazing he hadn’t broken yet and quit or break his morals. But that set him off, which led to May, right before her death, reminding him of the code and moral principles he has to abide by: “With great power, there must come great responsibility." It’s kinda why I take issue with the claim that the Home trilogy is Peter 1’s origin story. No it isn’t, his story before Civil War was his origin. He learned the lesson “When you can do the things I can, but you don’t, and then the bad things happen... they happen because of you”, got his costume and general persona and was off fighting crime. Origin stories don’t end when the hero stops learning things, because we’re always learning and growing. Otherwise our origins would end when we die. Origin stories explain how our main character(s) got to be the main character(s) of this story. To me, No Way Home is about upholding your core values and principles, and not abandoning them even when times get tough. He doesn’t really learn anything new in this one, as it just reaffirms and cements his ideas, making them stronger, and thus developing him more as a hero. That’s what his trilogy was about, starting after the origin story (because we already know the broad strokes of it) and showing what the hero does and learns after it. He learns about who he should be fighting for and the scale of his heroism (HC) as well as being able to step up to the challenge and not worry about the expectations of following in someone else’s footsteps and just do it your way. Again, NWH almost has him break his values, but through his struggles and Mays reaffirmation of his principles, he comes out a better hero. Sorry I made this so long 😅. This started out as a simple justification for reusing the Great Power line, but then I started indulging myself and started righting about the whole damn character lmao. What can I say? I’ve got a lot of love and thoughts and appreciation for this movie and this version of Spider-Man.
May: “With great power comes greater responsibility.” * “Another One Bites the Dust” starts playing in the sarcastic part of my head as the rest of me tries not to cry
Willem Dafoe saying “just me” gives me chills, you know just from the voice that its the goblin before you even see his face and its honestly incredible acting. That was the moment I thought he deserves an oscar for his role as the goblin. He was phenomenal throughout the whole movie
The great thing about No way home is that is satisfies both lovers and haters of the Tom Holland spiderman If you like him, then this is probably his best movie yet. If you hate him (And have a high possibility of having called him iron boy jr), this movie is good in completing his origin story and making him Spiderman.
Yep. I like Tom as a person/actor, but I’ve really not been a fan of his Peter. Whiny little zoomer hung up on Tony - a guy who, despite Marvel’s best attempts to make him seem fatherly - didn’t _actually_ interact with Peter all that much. The relationship always felt forced to me, and mopey “I miss Tony” Peter felt like it was supposed to resonate with Iron Man fans more than Peter’s character. No Way Home finally feels like it brings Peter up to the caliber of the other Spideys, and I’m here for it. The tragic loss of someone who really was close to him, the “great responsibility” speech, sacrificing personal happiness to protect the ones he loves… welcome home, Peter.
Dafoe's cackling while being punched immediately convinced me that he should be the next Joker. The face, the sound, the eyes...so brutally crazy and evil
i agree but also hella disagree - i think Dafoe playing the joker almost feels like??? idek how to explain it other than fan/casting laziness? Everyone loves joker and yeah my first thought at this scene was the same as your own but honestly I lean more towards no - like, Green Goblin shouldve been just as big and adored as joker is and Dafoe deserves to have his own character become that? not just settle for an (IMO) equally great villain just because the one is more popular.
"You decided to change the fabric of reality BEFORE trying to appeal to the university's decision ?!?" I love the fact that, for these few seconds, we are reminded that Strange has an academic background ;7 Also, later being reminded that Peter IS also a smart guy, defeating magic with geometry !
I hadn't seen Goblin in a movie since I was a kid, so I completely forgot how formidable he was until I watched this in theaters. Dafoe has never been scarier than he was here.
10:16 a small detail, Doc Ock stole Peter's chest part of the suit for his tentacles. He then used said tentacles to try to stab Peter. Peter uses his mask nanotech to reconstruct his chest panel, giving him protection from the spike, and luckily, revealing which Peter he is. Neat detail I noticed on my second watch, makes these movies so much more fun to revisit
The one thing I noticed upon re-watching was that you do see how May gets injured by the glider. It comes so quick that you don't have time to process what happened.
During the scene when May tells Peter "With great power, there must come a great responsibility", everyone in my theater started gasping and saying "Oh no", and I didn't get why at first, but then I remembered what always happens right after he's told that line.
Missed Win: When Otto makes his entrance, his theme is heard playing in the background before, during, and after he appears. In fact, Tobey and Andrew's themes play when they make their entrances as well as later on the Statue of Liberty. Jon Watts and Michael Giacchino are gosh-darn geniuses!
heres kind of another in some trailers for the new doctor strange it has a sort of sanctum santorium vibe the background of when wong opens his sling ring thing is infact the exact same place
Honestly one of the most unexpected moment for me personally is where spidey vs golbin starts and it hits me "oh right! This guy has superstrength!", since goblin spends so much time using gadgets like glider and the bombs so I forgot he can stand up to peter physically as well. Them having this brutal beatdown slamming each other through walls and floors made me go from some confidence that even still peter has this because golbin really doesn't have any of his tricks to the horrifying realization this will be quite a struggle.
One small detail I really loved in NWH has to be a subtle callback to the very first Avengers movie, where Electro comments on how "different" this universe feels to him, which is likely due to him being so in tune with the electrical grid that he can straight up sense the arc reactor energy being used in the grid, since Tony hooked New York (and likely most of the country after some time?) to run off arc reactors.
@@OgGuak420 Literally the very first scene of Iron Man in the first Avengers movie, where he's in the river replacing power lines with arc reactor tech.
A win that was missed here was during the scene where Strange first brings out the box This is the first time of a couple where Peter calls him Strange instead of Sir When he's trying to be nice, he calls him sir When it's serious he calls him by his last name Subtle, but great
The thing I loved about this movie when it came out was the absolute frustration at the beginning and how relatable it was. It felt so true to how the media wasn’t really putting out the facts or you wondered if it was fact. People will really believe anything. They conveyed that so well that it made you genuinely frustrated and overwhelmed and just… flabbergasted!
20:20 Little wrestling factoid! The slam that Goblin hits peter with there isn't a body slam, it's a spinebuster. Body slams usually don't involve you going down with the other guy.
This movie made me fall in love with Spider-Man again. This was the perfect fan service comic book movie that clues in the fans that have stayed with each Peter but never leaves anyone out!
This version of Parker and MJ have such good chemisty becuase they're actually a couple. But also, yes. After the Spidey films and Dune, Zendaya is fast approching "always a win" status. Girl has been killing it lately, imo.
I was excited for this film period but when I realized that it was going to focus on helping the villains, I was pretty much squealing with excitement. I love villains, I love redemption stories, I love the concept of helping others even when they don't deserve it. Willem Dafoe is- of course- amazing in this (the face he makes while getting punched is terrifying) but I was so happy that Alfred Molina got his chance to shine in that apartment scene.
To me the home trilogy has shown just how much tony stark interference has screwed up peters early superhero development. Homecoming showed how it overinflated his his ego, far from home was entirely tonys fault and no way home are the consequences of that. Only at the end is peter making his own suit, standing on his own without stark tech or happy and is able to become the friendly neighborhood Spiderman Edit: i may have also meant dependance/independence, peters reliance on tony or his tech has done little to actually help peter sometimes making things worse, only at the end does peter gain independence as a superhero and as a person and saves the day by relying on himself (buh dum tiss). These were my thought after seeing the movie for the first time in theaters which was a while ago so its a bit hazy
@@exceedcharge1 Tony can't be blamed for Mysterio's actions, the man was clearly a narcissist who didn't care at all about the destruction his actions caused. Yes he screwed him over but that doesn't justify everything else Mysterio did. Honestly, this line of thinking has been used for so many of Tony's villains and villains in general, when maybe, just maybe, they could've let it go? Like a normal, well-adjusted person? Most people do not turn to violent criminal activity when snubbed or screwed over, so that is still no justification for what they did, nor is it reasonable to place all of or even close to a majority of the blame on the hero or person that initially screwed them over.
@@exceedcharge1 They were setting it all up for Peter to lose it all. Sometimes it's more important for character growth when you have it all handed to you and then reality hits you vs the other way around. Also I don't know how to you he's only JUST becoming the friendly neighborhood spiderman. I wasn't aware the core of spiderman's personality revolved around his self made equipment.
Re: Sandman, It wasn't actually confirmed that the villains only came here at their points of death. Remember, Lizard survived as well. Or, in other words, as I learned today, "Everybody who confuses Correlation with Causation ends up dead".
I remember the spider sense scene, and throughout that whole fight, I was clenching my everything. Honestly don’t think I stopped until we got back home. I knew about the quote and what it signified, but I had forgotten, and in the moment it rang no bells. I’m actually kind of glad I forgot. Just like why I don’t watch trailers, it would have spoiled the result, and so I was kept on edge throughout the whole scene..
I didn’t even notice this but my dad found out that the Night Monkey suit in this movie was literally just Peter’s suit flipped inside out! He even realises he could do that after trying to wash the suit. Really fun detail!
The night monkey suit from far from home was just a modified shield tactical suit made for Spider-Man to use the inverted suit we see here is the one he made for the climax of far from home
WIN YOU MISSED: When the brick flies through the window and Matt Murdock catches it, Peter also reacts at the exact same time due to his Peter Tingle. Matt was simply the one who managed to catch it first!
Wag the Director: -To make up for the fact that his character was now bald, J. K. Simmons insisted on keeping J. Jonah Jameson's cigar and mustache for this film, due to wanting to have some aspects from his portrayal in Sam Raimi's trilogy to carry over in the MCU. -Both Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield gave input on their characters' respective journeys after their previous onscreen appearances, with Maguire specifically requesting that "very minimal" backstory be given on what happened to his Peter Parker after Spider-Man 3. -While details weren't elaborated, it is reported that Tom Holland fought for elements in the ending to be included in the final product.
@@i.d.9754 Goddamn how'd you know I commented here Mr. InPlainSight? Was that just an accident or something, cuz I see you on everything I post - which makes sense because that shows up in your feed - but a random comment I made on another video?? That's interesting 😂
@@artloverivy The video just appeared on my feed, I began to scroll through the comments, and then I noticed you and wanted to reply to your comment Simple as that (also sorry if I spooked you or something)
Fun Fact - Willem Dafoe said that he would return as the Green Goblin, if they let him do nearly all his own stunts and acts. This man deserves an Oscar
I honestly find that I enjoy watching these happy recaps almost as much as I enjoy watching the movie itself. I love talking about a movie over some boneless wings or a burger with whoever I went to the movie with, and your videos almost always hold that same energy. Such a blessing. Can't wait for Sonic 2 to come out on DVD so I can see how much you (hopefully) loved it!
I'm surprised but also extremely happy this movie came close to the insanity that was Endgame on release. I didn't think we'd reach that level of excitement (and loud) at least not for a while. As a die hard Spider-man fan I'm glad this movie was the one that gave our reactions to Endgame a run for its money.
Im surprised you didn't win Dr Strange's reaction to finding out Peter didn't try anything before going to him for a magic fix. Other than that, loved this movie and looking forward to part 2 here.
My interpretation of the spider sense against goblin in happy’s house, is that he knew exactly who the spider sense was warning him about, but he didn’t want to believe it, but he just let it go and trusted it
i knew from the get go that i’d love this video, and even so i’m feeling emotional over the portal references (spidey and the portal series have gotten me through some really rough times). “thinking with portals” not once, but twice so you’d cover both games and then following the second up with cave johnson’s lemon rant from 2 (J. K. Simmons is a treasure in every role he plays), my god the script on this video is just so good. y’all put in so much work and attention to detail into your content and it shows. couldn’t think of a more enjoyable way to spend 22 minutes
So, the spell didn’t bring them in when they died. It brings them in at the moment the learn Peter Parker is Spider-man. Sandman saw his face but didn’t know who that was until some years later for whatever reason. Electro got plugged into the mainframe “absorbing data” and probably learned subconsciously. Goblin, Lizard, & Otto all came the moment they found out in their movies. And Venom came over when the symbiote connected to the multiverse and learned what SM3’s venom knew.
I read an articleake a theory.....I think it kinda interesting.....the theory suggests that Andrew and Tobey were also been pulled before they untimely death...Andrew might be fighting a villain while Tobey might got ambushed by them and they both got killed...🤷
Honestly the whole venom fiasco is a mess (along with the vulture in morbius) and I've just tried to think about and hope that a later movie clears that up since no theory's Ive seen have been logical
"Sandman saw his face but didn’t know who that was until some years later for whatever reason." No, Sandman definitely knew that Spider-Man was Peter Parker once he unmasked himself. He apologizes to Tobey about killing Uncle Ben, remember? He knew. Honestly, I just take it that all the villains were brought in from random points in time. For most of them, this happened to be either right before they found out Spider-Man's identity or right before they died.
Willem Dafoe really said "Oh you thought my first time playing this character was iconic? Just watch me" and then took acting steroids and delivered the absolute best version of that character. Though the best character in the film is that guy in the beginning who thinks he can catch Peter and so he just jumps straight off the front of the Taxi, that guy is going somewhere... that somewhere being hospital
I know it sounds cliché and the movie hasn't been out long enough to justify this, but: this is my all-time favourite movie. It blends my most beloved fiction topics (parallel universes/altered timelines, and comic books) so beautifully, and it far exceeds any previous favourites I have had.
This whole movie is Peter being an immature idiot and taking off his mask while complaining that people know who he is... Not my favourite Marvel movie at all.
@@OranRobinson that made no sense that's not even what it is it's the fact his identity is known by the whole world and the people he loves are suffering because of it did you actually watch the movie and know why he went to strange
@@elishawilson5342 i watched it and i know why he went to strange... My issue is him being his whiny immature goofy awkward self and messing up multiverses. I wanted to like the movie...i really did. I just ended up annoyed. Def my least favourite Spider-Man movie.
@@OranRobinson not to mention that's literally Peter Parker he can be whiny sometimes and what did you expect when he's trying to make sure the ones he cares about are the only ones that don't forget about him
19:00 When it cuts to Norman walking away during this scene, I noticed the camera lingered on Octavius for a moment longer. I got the subtle idea that Octavius had heard "Norman's" weird response and he was smart enough to start working out something was wrong
A little disappointed you didn't give more wins to Charlie Cox's Matt Murdock cameo. His performance as Daredevil and the show in general is by far the best thing Marvel has ever created and having him back and officially in the MCU is worth more wins.
I am just so grateful for your channel. My life has felt so negative lately, and it’s so nice to come watch something that’s so articulately developed on just the positive aspects of something. Really trying to be grateful for the little things and these videos are one of them.
There's so many things I love about this movie but thing I love the most is that it completes Spider-Man's MCU origin story. I'll admit, I didn't really like Homecoming mainly because it didn't feel like a Spider-Man movie to me but I did love Far From Home because I felt Peter was growing as a character. Now after watching No Way Home, I now realize why Homecoming was the way it was and, once I get No Way Home, I'm going to rewatch the whole trilogy to get a better understanding of it and it's origin. Maybe I'll like Homecoming more
A few of my unmentioned favorites: The tips of Ock's tentacles being "locked off," steady and not moving while the nanobots have control of them, but the arms supporting them still wavering around a little bit. Of course the crowd is made up of adults: it's school time. If a kid goes to Midtown, they could just see Peter inside, and if they don't go to Midtown, they need to be at their own schools right then, not standing outside his. The first time Peter punches Norman in that closeup shot, Normie looks confused and afraid, but every punch after has him grinning and confident. So like a cartoon case of amnesia, a bonk on the head really did fix him, bringing Norman back and sending Goblin away. If Pete had just stopped before that second punch, the rest of the fight wouldn't have happened - after all, if the kid who's supposed to be helping you is (to your mind) suddenly attacking you for no reason, you'd retreat into hiding and let "the other guy" take the abuse instead too.
16:58 in fact food is high level acting statement. Whenever things are normal in a movie, nobody is actually eating, they pick nothing from it and pretend to eat and anybody can tell the difference. But think of any scene where the characters are actually eating or drinking something, it's a great scene with awesome acting skills from the cast And being honest I mostly recall villains actually eating or at least morally ambigous characters so...
15:55 Finally!! I never see anyone talk about this dialogue here. It’s so nice and important for our mcu Spider-Man to finally speak up for himself for once. I feel like normally he’s talking to some “higher” hero or person.
I really liked Charlie Cox's Daredevil cameo appearance in this movie, and I'm even more excited to see him in the "Echo" Disney Plus series and Vincent D'Onofrio's Kingpin after his appearance in the "Hawkeye" Disney Plus series
I would've liked you to comment on the scene in which Peter decides to steal the box from Strange. For me, it's the emotional backbone of the movie in many ways, and I like that it has little to do with nostalgia. I think the music and even the camera frame that moment as pretty significant for the overall story.
Fun fact about Norman’s changing teeth. His “goblin” teeth are Willem Dafoe’s real teeth, while his “Norman” teeth are capped
Dang you beat me to it, I just commented almost the same thing, except that if I'm not mistaken it was Dafoe's idea
I fucking love fun facts
@@charlottejones3678 Fun fact: cant spell fun without U :)
@@pvic6959 fun fact #2 : you can't spell therapist without "the rapist"
@@darthkek1953 thank you, Mr. Connery
I think it's worth noting that in the MCU trilogy they've called it the "tingle" or the "Peter tingle" but when Green Goblin talks about it as a character from a universe where it's probably been called the "Spider sense" he refers to it by saying "that's some neat trick that sense of yours." Just another fun multiverse thing.
IRONICALLY the only person to ever call it "spider-sense" in ANY SPIDER-MAN MOVIE if you think about it was Raimi's Venom when he sarcastically said "my spider-sense is tingling" when he had MJ in spider-man 3.....
@@ianr.navahuber2195 and the funny thing is even raimi's peter seemed to focus on the tingle part of that phrase rather than the sense bit
@@ianr.navahuber2195 can you tell me what YOU THINK irony means, please
@@-MrFozzy- something that subverts expectations idk
@@-MrFozzy-Here's mine: something annoying people love to bitch about.
Love Dafoe's delivery on the line "Norman's on sabbatical, honey."
Probably my favorite line from the whole film
Just read that as the line was being said in the video.
My favorite line was “strong enough to have it all, too weak to take it”
Fun fact, that was ad-libbed. The script didn't have a specific line for DaFoe and they told him to do what came naturally. It ended up actually kind of scaring the other people in the room.
@@Pikatwig16 Thats amazing. 😁
Loved his sass in that 😂😂😂
14:07
"Just throw all the Oscars at this man will ya?"
Jokes aside though, Willem Dafoe is a legendary actor
Here before this blows up.
Does 5-6 guys use this account? Like how can you be everywhere
That wasn’t a joke. He literally deserves all the Oscar’s in the world
Willem Dripfoe
Honestly, he stole the show in no way home, it was just a blast watching him do his thing
14:26 The reason Osborne hides the donuts is because last time he tried to go for food in front of auntay, his hand was slapped.
I still think that slap was the reason Norman wanted to kill May. Not because Spidey, but because May was policing him for table manners. (Suddenly, I'd like to see what he would have tried to pull on Cap over language.)
Just like May did in the original Spiderman. When he tried to pick at the sweet potatoes she was carrying to the table. She slapped his hand and then told them to say grace.
Something I noticed:
Peter’s reaction to Strange saying “their sacrifice means infinitely more than their lives” is a big character moment for him. Up until this Film Peter has held all of the older mcu heroes on a pedestal, he looked up to them in the way that a kid tends to look up to his childhood heroes and he looked to heroes like Strange and even Tony for guidance. But at that moment Peter realizes how flawed heroes like strange can really be in their thinking and you can 100% see it in his face when he decides he can’t rely on them to make the calls he thought they were best at making.
Yeah, I hate how the MCU has stripped Strange of all his appeal from his first movie (a literal doctor sworn to the hippocratic oath) and slowly made him a souless arbiter who sits on his hands and lets people die at every other turn because "balance." Really glad Peter stuck it to him and helped cure the villains, even when it was at his own expense to do so. Now THAT'S true hero stuff from our friendly neighborhood spider guy.
Strange is definitely going to have to think outside of the box when Multiverse of Madness releases
@@RacingSnails64 I mean, that's kind of Strange's arc in this movie. He ends up joining with Peter in the end, realizing he was right. In part it could be a generational/area of stem divide they have. Strange is a Gen X doctor, used to dealing with incurable diseases and the reality that the world is far from perfect and many suffer, he's at times disillusioned. But Peter brings the at times maybe naive optimism of a "lets figure out how to save the world through the power of exponentially better technology and figuring out solutions previous generations could never have thought of". This is seen through the mirror dimension, a place Strange brought Peter to because he thought magic reigns supreme there and he could control the situation. But Peter found a way to look beyond that and use his math skills to figure it out.
Steven is used to reading about cures and procedures in books and carrying them out flawlessly, albeit, to use them in creative ways (such as by creating the time loop for Dormammu), while Peter is the one who has to create new technology and sciency stuff by himself to solve his problems (creating his spider-fluid, designing the new suits in Far From Home, and creating the cures in this movie). Similarly, Strange is rigid about certain lines because of the hero-perspective he has, that of protecting the Earth from the mystic dangers, ensuring timelines don't get messed up, ensuring the Multiverse doesn't rip apart. His learned skill brings with it the rules that don't allow for the creative problem solving that Peter uses, such as suggesting a spell that makes everyone forget Peter. It's not that he has forgotten his hippocratic oath, but Peter wanted him to risk the Multiverse to save people who have already died and are a threat to currently living people. It goes against everything Strange has learned. In this movie, Peter learns about the risks with such an approach, like death, such as with Aunt May's death, but in the end (thanks to Tobey-Peter) he gets past it.
The difficult part here is that it has been a while since Strange has had a him-movie, mostly appearing in ensemble films or those where he's not the main character, which doesn't help see his development, but going forwards to Multiverse of Madness, I suspect that learning from his mistakes in Far From Home will be an important part of the movie.
@@RacingSnails64 I think you’re looking too deep in the wrong places, it’s not that strange was “soulless”, it’s more about the fact that his view was warped by his grand knowledge of the wider universe and that’s ALWAYS been present in Strange’s character throughout comics and the mcu. I mean this is a character who at one point forcefully sent Bruce Banner to live on a secluded planet because he thought he was a danger to society.
@@RacingSnails64 Yeah. While I like the role that Strange plays in NWH, going from DOCTOR Strange to this cold a calculator felt a little incongruous. Hopefully they tackle this more in Doctor Strange 2: I think that what Strange had to do in Infinity War (i.e. sacrificing half the universe and Stark for the greater good) could be framed as the event that affects his view of the calculus.
I love Norman being a "good guy" at first so much because it just adds so much tension to everything. _We_ know he's a villain, _we_ know his goodness won't last, but Peter doesn't. He's a ticking bomb and we have no idea when it'll go off. It itches at the back of your mind, it doesn't let you relax even when stuff is going right, I love it.
“There is no terror in the bang, only in the anticipation of it.”
-Alfred Hitchcock.
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I'd also say that it's more terrifying because we want him to be good (but also we want and love him as a villain). It felt so nice seeing him as nice ol' Norman that I almost fully believed it like Peter did. I am so glad I was tricked though because every Green Goblin scene in this film is wonderful❤❤❤
Especially with how close was to May. The moment we see Norman with May we know he could snap her neck at any second, but she kept trying to help him
@Jesus is LORD shut up
20:07 This was the moment that freaked me out in theatres. As Peter keeps punching him, Goblin doesn't ignore the pain. He embraces it, because now he knows he can break this Spider Man.
Saw another comment earlier that said that the reason Goblin is smiling isn’t because he’s batshit insane (I mean he is) but it’s because he is noticing how much Peter is pulling his punches. Goblins smile is him realizing he can exploit Peters mercy
Reminds me a lot of the joker interrogation scene by Heath Ledger.
I love how when Peter fixes Otto, they specifically kept it a secret from us fans who knew where to look by cleverly not showing the lights on the claws, since that’s the give away as to who is in control.
Red = Claws are in control.
White = Otto is in control.
Blue = Peter/Iron Spider is in control.
So when us keen eyed fans were drastically searching for a hint of the lights, they kept them hidden so we wouldn’t know if it worked or not until they wanted to reveal it.
Pretty clever… clever and devious!
Great catch!
I am the 500th like. Also rlly interesting
A detail that not a lot of people have pointed out is that Strange’s spell initially had two rings, meaning that Strange wanted to remember who Peter was and that’s adorable ok bye
And you see, I read that completely differently. I see it as more of Strange's ego, that it's knowledge that he won't let himself lose. I mean ego, and the fact that it could be knowledge he may need someday in the future.
“Leave me out of this(the spell?)”
-Wong
I’ve heard some people say that Wong still knows who Peter is, and I’d be curious to see the conclusion in whatever Spider-Man movie comes next. Not sure if it’s true but it would be cool nonetheless.
It makes sense that coach Wilson was a Mysterio truther, since in Homecoming, he also believed that Captain America was a war criminal.
Nice catch
In fairness, in that movie I don’t think he did. He said it with such an uncaring voice, it’s like when your uncle gives you your first beer at 15. “Yeah I’m technically not supposed to do this but I don’t care”
I mean, he wasn't entirely wrong.
ok point taken but cap is literally the definition of a war criminal. we just like him because he committed crimes for the us instead of against it
"We know what you did"
Fun fact: dr Strange slipping on the snow was actually a blooper but it happened so many times they just gave up
Haha what no way? That’s pretty funny lol
I really appreciate the balance the movie struck with the other Peters and villains. My biggest fear was that they would either barely show up or steal the movie away from the main characters, but no. They all have plenty of screen time, but it’s very much still MCU Peter’s movie.
This! Honestly, while I'm hyped for Multiverse of Madness, I'm a TOUCH concerned that they won't have the same balance that this film had. However, having said that, I'm not TOO worried, as No Way Home and Civil War have both shown us that they know how to do fanservice, but only in service of the main character and their stories. I'm pretty sure it'll be the same for Multiverse :)
Lmao
@@lukeerative, What's funny?
I feel like it's not even the balance of screentime, cause I'd still be happy with more of it, it's the way the characters feel like they're there FOR MCU Peter, that their role in the story is to help give him a new perspective on his role as Spiderman, and show him the paths his life could take. There was plenty of fan service and goofs, but ultimately their time was centred around MCU Peter, and that really helped maintain the balance.
@@charliefielding2297, Good way of putting it. Let’s hope that Multiverse of Madness can pull off the same thing :)
19:18 "Norman's on sabbatical, honey" I really appreciate the idea/detail that even his Goblin self takes care to avoid using the phrase "out" when referring to his better half not being present since it was "You're out, Norman" that pushed him to taking the serum in the first place (which was then further rubbed in when he made the poor choice of using the same phrasing in his bid to tempt Spiderman into an alliance and got rejected.) It's such a subtle thing, wouldn't surprise me if Dafoe himself remembered after all this time since he enjoys this role so much.
I love how Happy just takes in peter as soon as the crisis with his identity being leaked hits. He does actually care for Peter, may just dumped him but he still immediately offers his apartment for Peter to have genuine shelter from the press and people out to get him. I think outside of may dying, Peter losing Happy as a confidant and ally sucks the most, I loved their relationship in this trilogy. Especially when you consider that when Tony was still alive Happy couldn’t give less of a shit what Peter was doing lol, but now he’s really come to love him and wants to help him grow as a hero.
20:07 FunFact, the maniacal laugh while being punched was adlibbed on the spot by Defoe and it genuinely freaked out Tom Holland.
Honestly didn’t expect this EGA this soon, but I’m not going to complain. This was definitely a video we were all waiting for!
a surprise but a welcome one
This soon? It’s been almost 5 months😂
Shut the fuck up with your corny ass comment
@@elieastridge5895 it'd probably coming up now since it released outside of theaters on streaming services and Blu-Ray in the past month or two
"I can't wait for Lee's video on this" was my first thought walking out of the theater opening night
Honestly the Spider-Sense scene in the apartment is a masterclass in suspense film-making because I was butt-clenched and cold-sweating the whole shot. It's so perfectly done, it's flawlessly timed. For the first time *ever*, you get to feel what the Spider-Sense feels like; fear. Fear by the pricking of your thumbs, the knife-edge on a standing hair. Absolutely stellar shit.
Absolutely! The dolly shots were such a genius move, and in theaters you really did finally get to experience the spidey sense.
Still not cinema
@@DunkIeosteus ugh, shut the fuck up, you contrarian downer.
@@DunkIeosteus Martin Scorsese, is that you?
Beautifully worded
Flint’s “I am.” After Electro’s “Y’all just gonna stand around and act like I’m not butt ass naked?” Slayed me in theatres
That moment when Peter's spider sense is going haywire in the condo, with all the effects surrounding that scene, gave me chills. Looking back, I love the idea that Peter sensed the moment Norman switched to the Green Goblin, and the Goblin is such a threat to Peter on a scale he's never felt before that it nearly overloaded his spidey sense and he couldn't tell where it was coming from. Willem Dafoe's amazing performance when he's found out as Goblin also really sold the whole thing.
I love MCU Spidey so nothing against him, but as a big fan that grew up on the Raimi movies, its a nice nod to how Tobey's Spider-Man and his villains are almost in a different league to what Holland's Spidey has had to face.
It's so powerful.
Are you comparing the green goblin and thanos? Because that’s a different league in itself
@@iankincaid7630 I assume in the case of Thanos, Peter was briefed by Tony and Stephen on the ship over to Titan, and he didn't have to fight him solo.
In NWH Peter is running the show and is surrounded by supervillains that could turn on him and Aunt May if he isn't careful, and when Goblin came out Peter's sense went nuts but it doesn't tell him exactly what the threat is hence his confusion and needing to look around, before he trusts his instincts.
Sorry to be the nay-sayer here, but when Peter's Spider sense was going haywire, Norman had already been taken over by the Goblin for a while. Green Goblin took over Norman right after Otto made the comment about no more darker half. Green Goblin was the one setting off the Spider sense, but it wasn't because of the switch, it was because that was the moment he was about to cut the act and get violent.
@@TomoInAMask Whether or not you're right, I'm still mainly talking about Norman's threat level on Peter's radar was overwhelming coming from a vaguely 'unknown' source.
Also a huge thing about Doctor Strange!!! The fact that Strange can control the mirror dimensions on that MASSIVE! of a level without using power from the Dark Dimensions shows how absurdly powerful he has become. There a theory going around that when Strange faced off against Dormamu he was there for years and years perfecting his spells. Hence why he held his own against Thanos
Dr. Strange taking actual years to finally piss Dormamu off enough makes way too much sense-
"We truly live in good times. For movies. Everything else is going to crap" couldn't have said it better
Most of the movies are crap to.
Yes, but when you hear it from the main optimist of the internet... It's like there's no hope left
I mean, life now compared to anytime in history is actually not all that bad
@@captainpep3 not from Ukraine, r u
@@katearcher8514 as bad as it is for the Ukrainians, at least they have hope, which other parts in history can’t say they had. There are a lot of problems today and I won’t deny them, but it could be worst. It HAS been worst
One moment I'll never forget is that, in the cinema, when Goblin said "That's some neat trick, that sense of yours." There was a collective gasp. I've never heard an audience be so collectively shocked.
A detail you forgot that you probably wont notice when it happens again: Peter's spidey sense did not go off when the brick came through the window becasue Matt was sure to catch it.
This happens again later when Otto grabs all three Spidermen at once and none of them dodge it because they were not in danger, just part of Otto's trick against Max.
His hand goes up in the exact spot the brick would come in before the window breaks, it went off
@@newodavies4324 pretty sure that’s just his reflexes
7:53 Missed win: that was not scripted, Benedict Cumberbatch actually did slip on the ice right there while the wires were lowering him.
It was actual ice? Lol
I think the cackle when Tom hitting Dafoe deserves another win because, hell, based on the interview, it was a unscripted and Dafoe just channels his inner Goblin
Fun fact: Willem Dafoe did all of his own stunts in this movie. The man is 66 years old. What a fucking legend.
@@halfmettlealchemist8076 Yeah! That too! Didn't he mentioned it in the interview he pushed for it as a condition for his return in the movie?
@@kaitosasaki4262 Pretty sure he did, yeah
Finally someone else noticed the spidey sense lines, I haven't seen anyone else talk about those anywhere. Wavy lines around his head is traditionally how the spidey sense was depicted in the comics, except usually in solid bold colors. It's basically a direct callback to the classic Ditko artstyle. I had a feeling CinemaWins would catch that, very nice.
NR caught it, so did mr sunday
@@teamrohver who is NR?
But literally the whole marvelstudios subreddit was talking about that
@@mikejohnson3338 New Rockstars
You haven’t been looking hard enough then, I saw then when I watched the movies and instantly knew what was happening p
Thanks for logically dissecting and analyzing this movie without over the top fanboying. Can't stand those goofy videos that only says this movie is good because it's good. Can't wait for part 2.
while i find the video really hard to watch just because its unfunny, the point of the channel isn't to logically dissect and analyse movies. Like how Cinemasins doesn't point out valid flaws.
@@MegaWolfGaming comparing this channel to cinema sins is a pretty big insult considering this one acknowledges a lot of fair points in films, and is self aware, when cinema sins is just trying to crack jokes and piss people off. They feign ignorance so they can criticise more.
This movie is powered a lot by nostalgia, but I still feel it's fair to say it's a good movie because it's a good movie.
@@DanielLovesArt cinema sins is literally joke channel, they love that they piss people off, I personally love both of these channels.
@@DanielLovesArt I will never understand why people always cry so hard about CinemaSins. The entire point of that channel is to say stupid things that don't make sense. They literally tell you that they aren't trying to be critics, they're just dicking around.
I don't like watching CinemaSins either but I honestly don't understand why people treat a joke channel so seriously
What I enjoy about Dr. Strange’s point of view is that it actually closely mimics an omniscient, objective rationalist - which is precisely the audience’s perspective. “They’re sacrifice means more than their lives” is something that the pure humanist Peter Parker can’t stomach, but it’s exactly what the audience believes because we’ve seen each character’s villainy before. Strange also clearly cares for Peter specifically, from being willing to cast the forgetfulness spell in the first place to intentionally including himself in those who will not forget Peter’s identity. Bottom line, I love that Strange’s beliefs and reactions not only are reflective of the audience’s (creating greater contrast for quiet tension as well as euphoria for their redemptions), but also staying consistent with his character as well - one who only obeys the rules when he doesn’t have a dog in the fight.
William Dafoe is by far the star of the middle third of this movie and a large part of the final fight. He seems like such a genuinely broken man as Norman, and him smashing the mask was extremely satisfying. And the way Green Goblin takes over is beautiful. The fact that he's only caught because of Peter's spidey sense is terrifying in its own right, but that entire sequence leading up to the reveal he was back was beautiful. "Norman's on sabbatical honey" is one of the best lines in the whole film.
This movie is such a love letter to Spider-Man!!!! I loved how all the characters were treated, my biggest fear was that Tobey, Andrew and the villains were just going to be treated as fan service. But they all had their own little arcs in this movie.
Andrew was able to save MJ after failing to save Gwen. And Tobey stopped Peter from taking a life, something Tobey failed to do with Uncle Ben's killer. Each villain had their own moment to shine. Sorry for how long this will be, but Spider-Man is my favorite Hero ever!!!
And I can't believed how well Marvel was able to pull this off. They brought back all these characters from different Spider-Man movies and was still able to tell it's own story for Tom's Peter/Spider-Man. Willem Dafoe will never stop scaring me with his Green Goblin. Alfred Molina was just as threating and Complex as he was in Spider-Man 2. Jamie Foxx wasn't blue and had some of the best lines and jokes in the movie.
I'm so excited to see where they take Tom's Peter next, I LOVE THE MCU!!!!
P.S. was not expecting Charlie Coxx to be in this movie "I'm a really good Lawyer" Still gets me.
The interesting thing about NWH to me is the more I watch it the more the moments you’d expect to get the biggest reactions in theatres become less hype and in a normal scenario that would cause my perception of the film to change and think it wasn’t as good as I thought it was but it’s actually allowed me to appreciate the small moments even more making it even better
Agreed, the movie was so much fun!
I also love that in the OG Spider-Man movie, you can tell that right as Peter lets the glider hit Norman and he passes away, it just crushes him. He immediately hangs his head in shame, and you feel like in NWH he finally gets redemption for that moment, in a way.
Yeah the stakes for this movie were HIGH . They could've messed up bad bad . But they didn't . The movie was quite good . Not as good as Infinity War or Endgame for me , but it was great.
Also , Jamie Fox not being blue being used as a plus point to the movie is literally the best thing I've read in a while lol 😂😂
I mean other then the lizard he kinda had nothing in the story.
William Dafoe's performance of Green Goblin is so incredible that I'm sad he's stuck to the multiverse one-off. I'd love to see him get more time like Loki got.
Also, someone pointed out to me a great moment in the GG/Spidey hallway fight. When Peter is punching Norman in the face, after a few hits Norman shows a big smile and at first I thought it was just cause he's crazy, BUT we know how strong Peter is and that's when Norman realized how much he's pulling his punches. Norman knows he can exploit Peter's mercy, make him suffer, punish his morality.
True, we need more what ifs
The reason they snicker at Doc Ock's name isn't the alliteration. It's because they are smart (nerds) and a guy with 8 arms whose last name is octavius (literally "of eight") is hilarious (and the alliteration is the cherry on top)
no it's just a shit joke
Otto means 'eight' in some romanic languages too--his name is Eight of Eight and he has octopus powers 😶
Indeed it was like he was destined to become Doc Ock, just like the name FLINT MARKO was meant to be Sandman
It just occured to me, how Tom's Spiderman Great responsibility speech has quite a different implication.
In all three cases he hears it as a last thing from the respective aunt/uncle before they die.
But where Tobey's uncle dies after he lets a criminal go (despite being very easily able to stop him)
And Andrew's uncle dies, because Andrew is too busy being sassy with the criminal a police and bailing on his uncle despite making a promise.
Tom does nothing wrong. He did the right thing. He went far beyond trying to do the right thing and still, this course of action leads to May dying.
Could this be the reason why he is got so close to killing the Goblin? Because, he could blame only him and not himself like Tom and Andrew?
Cool detail, it has not occured to me untill now.
I interpret it slightly differently. With the first two it's clearly their call to action. Telling them "If you stand by and don't do anything, bad things will happen". But Holland's Spider-Man has known that since before Civil War. For him it's a reminder that great responsibility sometimes means great cost. Aunt May is making a heroic sacrifice, and this is Peter's call to do the same, which he does at the end of the film
Those smiles William Defoe delivers in between each punch Peter is throwing at his face at full strength,is haunting. But it’s more brilliant than anything.
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This is such a great part of the fight. Holland's Peter stopping, and just looking so confused because.. that's the first time he actually had to deal with a proper crazy evil villain. Obviously, the others were all evil, but they always had a proper plan, were more "reasonable", or were people who just went down some wrong paths. Goblin? Just straight-up evil and crazy.
I hope we get another truly evil with no real motive villain like Scorpion in the next trilogy
There is something utterly viceral about Green Goblin and Dafoe delivers it perfectly.
Some people just want to watch the world burn.
When I watched it in theatres, we cheered when Charlie Cox appeared. I like this new green goblin outfit. It allows Willem Dafoe to go all in with the facial expressions.
And he did all his own stunts
@@monsterking1973 well, most
The mask in og was because the directer didnt think dafoe could pull it off with the facial animations
Seeing Charlie again made me instantly relive "I BEAT YOU!" from Daredevil, and I was so happy to see him again
I wholeheartedly agree with the facial expressions. The goblin mask honestly robbed of true sinister nature and psyco that Green Goblin is. Being able to see his face adds a whole new layer to it all.
I just realized at 10:31 when the pumpkin grenade is thrown by Green Goblin, it actually changes course while rolling because of a pebble! I never realized this and I've seen this movie a dozen times at least! Great attention to detail!
Was crying for pretty much the entire movie, the entire cinema went insane when Daredevil showed up and it just didn't stop, this movie has all the wins. As soon as Dafoe started talking about May i began crying again i knew she would die within the next few minutes 😭
I love how the marvel logo Constantly evolves with each project they do it’s truly unnecessary but totally Awesome and shows that the team behind the mcu really cares about the universe they built
Something I think deserves an extra win is that in homecoming the Death Star was destroyed and in nwh another Death Star was destroyed. The darth star was destroyed in the 1st and 3rd film just like the Star Wars originals
Darth Star?
@@NitroDiscord ever heard of auto correct?
@@finn2201 Ratio
@@NitroDiscord what
and the one in NWH was only half built, meanwhile in Homecoming Ned had finished it.
There’s this really fun theory I found about why other characters from the Tobey-verse and the Amazing films don’t show up. We know Gwen & Harry knew Peter 3 was Spider-Man. We also know MJ & Harry knew Peter 2 was Spider-Man (and it’s heavily implied Aunt May knew as well). Do you know what they all have in common? They were all exceptions in the spell (Aunt May, Peter’s girlfriend and his best friend). Combine that with the apparent multiverse consciousness of Venom, and you’ve got a perfectly good explanation of why only those people from those universes (other universes not withstanding) showed up and no one else. I don’t remember who said it, but it was a really cool idea
That is a really cool idea! I think the symbiote developing a sort of hive mind makes sense too and explains why Tom Hardy’s venom would show up and not SM3’s.
Whats the idea?
@@소준호-f9s I'm gonna guess here and say that it's because a version of the "best friend", "love interest", and Aunt May already exist (and know about Peter) in the MCU universe?
@mother school Hey, it wasn’t my idea. It was somebody else’s. Shame I do not remember where I found out so I could give proper credit
@@aionicthunder that is a good response! Far too few would not take the credit on the internet and I have seen the same theory as well but is in the same situation of not remembering from where :D
I realize that "With great power..." is iconic and has to be included, it's just... he's been living that philosophy since before Tony recruited him. "When you can do the things that I can, but you don't, and then the bad things happen, they happen because of you."
Well yeah but you don’t just learn a lesson once and then automatically always follow through with it the rest of your life without struggling or having doubts. It’s about fighting the temptation to not go against your core values, even if it feels more convenient. Peter 2 goes through this in his own movies. First movie, he learns “With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility” and he sticks with it till the end of the film. In the sequel he struggles with his new responsibility and even gets to the point where he briefly quits being Spider-Man and has a dream with uncle Ben and says “I’m Spider-Man no more” and rejects Ben’s message. It isn’t until he sees the consequences of not having those principles does he Redon the mask. With NWH (and really the Home trilogy in general) it’s something that echoes that, but doesn’t let Peter 1 reject the mask. Before Civil War, he’s already learned that lesson and his doing his best to stick to it. In Homecoming he sacrifices a date with his crush and a chance of popularity at a party to stop the Vulture and his goons. In Infinity War, he jumps out a bus to fight aliens that he has never experienced before and goes to frickin space to help fight them. He even dies on an alien plant (granted given that the snap was random it’s likely that still would’ve happened even if he never intervened) but luckily comes back after being gone for 5 years in Endgame. It’s not as prevalent in Far From Home, as it deals more with him building his confidence and shedding the weight of expectations after the death of Iron Man (his mentor and father figure) but there are still aspects of it scattered throughout like when Peter 1 abandons MJ and almost ruins his reputation in class to go fight the Elementals. But by the end, he’s in a place that’s almost too good. He feels secure in his identity, he’s got a girlfriend who knows his identity along with the 3 other people who he’s closest with (Ned, Happy, and May), and he’s got access to a lot of what Tony left behind for him. I’m not complaining about Far From Home’s ending, I actually really like it (partly because of its wholesomeness), primarily because it makes what comes next even more devastating. His identity gets outed, the people he cares most for are paying for it, his reputation is pretty much ruined, nearly all of his tech is taken away (minus two of his suits), and now there are 5 super villains, all of whom know his identity and his loved ones that end up causing him more problems. Throughout the movie, Strange was trying to get him to abandon his principles and just let them die because it’d be more convenient. Peter 1 is so dedicated to upholding his values that May (and presumably MCU Ben as well) taught him that even tries to fight Strange in the mirror dimension (and wins!) to uphold them. It isn’t until Goblin goes rogue and pretty ruins everything for Peter 1, AGAIN, that he nearly reaches his breaking point. After all the things Peter 1 has experienced in his 6 MCU appearances (as well as prior to Civil War) it’s honestly kinda amazing he hadn’t broken yet and quit or break his morals. But that set him off, which led to May, right before her death, reminding him of the code and moral principles he has to abide by: “With great power, there must come great responsibility." It’s kinda why I take issue with the claim that the Home trilogy is Peter 1’s origin story. No it isn’t, his story before Civil War was his origin. He learned the lesson “When you can do the things I can, but you don’t, and then the bad things happen... they happen because of you”, got his costume and general persona and was off fighting crime. Origin stories don’t end when the hero stops learning things, because we’re always learning and growing. Otherwise our origins would end when we die. Origin stories explain how our main character(s) got to be the main character(s) of this story. To me, No Way Home is about upholding your core values and principles, and not abandoning them even when times get tough. He doesn’t really learn anything new in this one, as it just reaffirms and cements his ideas, making them stronger, and thus developing him more as a hero. That’s what his trilogy was about, starting after the origin story (because we already know the broad strokes of it) and showing what the hero does and learns after it. He learns about who he should be fighting for and the scale of his heroism (HC) as well as being able to step up to the challenge and not worry about the expectations of following in someone else’s footsteps and just do it your way. Again, NWH almost has him break his values, but through his struggles and Mays reaffirmation of his principles, he comes out a better hero.
Sorry I made this so long 😅. This started out as a simple justification for reusing the Great Power line, but then I started indulging myself and started righting about the whole damn character lmao. What can I say? I’ve got a lot of love and thoughts and appreciation for this movie and this version of Spider-Man.
And if you pay close attention after she says the line, he says “ I know” which implies it’s still something uncle Ben said to him
@@directorforplastic7929 Great comment my guy 👏👏
yes but sadly that first line in civil war wasn't good enough for the marvel bros who whined about mcu peter so here they essentially re-hashed it.
May: “With great power comes greater responsibility.”
* “Another One Bites the Dust” starts playing in the sarcastic part of my head as the rest of me tries not to cry
Willem Dafoe saying “just me” gives me chills, you know just from the voice that its the goblin before you even see his face and its honestly incredible acting. That was the moment I thought he deserves an oscar for his role as the goblin. He was phenomenal throughout the whole movie
The great thing about No way home is that is satisfies both lovers and haters of the Tom Holland spiderman
If you like him, then this is probably his best movie yet.
If you hate him (And have a high possibility of having called him iron boy jr), this movie is good in completing his origin story and making him Spiderman.
And if you just plain don't like Tom Holland, you have Andrew Garfield and Toby McGuire!
@@davidrosenberg9615 yeah that part
Yep. I like Tom as a person/actor, but I’ve really not been a fan of his Peter. Whiny little zoomer hung up on Tony - a guy who, despite Marvel’s best attempts to make him seem fatherly - didn’t _actually_ interact with Peter all that much. The relationship always felt forced to me, and mopey “I miss Tony” Peter felt like it was supposed to resonate with Iron Man fans more than Peter’s character.
No Way Home finally feels like it brings Peter up to the caliber of the other Spideys, and I’m here for it. The tragic loss of someone who really was close to him, the “great responsibility” speech, sacrificing personal happiness to protect the ones he loves… welcome home, Peter.
@@davidrosenberg9615 Maguire
@@Scuuurbs I feel like this next trilogy will show a better tom Holland Spidey.
Dafoe's cackling while being punched immediately convinced me that he should be the next Joker. The face, the sound, the eyes...so brutally crazy and evil
I was reminded of that scene from The Dark Knight seeing that moment in theaters
i agree but also hella disagree - i think Dafoe playing the joker almost feels like??? idek how to explain it other than fan/casting laziness? Everyone loves joker and yeah my first thought at this scene was the same as your own but honestly I lean more towards no - like, Green Goblin shouldve been just as big and adored as joker is and Dafoe deserves to have his own character become that? not just settle for an (IMO) equally great villain just because the one is more popular.
@@an-animal-lover do i looked like a guy with a plan? Best villain and best joker no one can replaced.
Why be the best Joker when he's already the best Green Goblin?
"You decided to change the fabric of reality BEFORE trying to appeal to the university's decision ?!?" I love the fact that, for these few seconds, we are reminded that Strange has an academic background ;7
Also, later being reminded that Peter IS also a smart guy, defeating magic with geometry !
I hadn't seen Goblin in a movie since I was a kid, so I completely forgot how formidable he was until I watched this in theaters. Dafoe has never been scarier than he was here.
10:16 a small detail, Doc Ock stole Peter's chest part of the suit for his tentacles. He then used said tentacles to try to stab Peter. Peter uses his mask nanotech to reconstruct his chest panel, giving him protection from the spike, and luckily, revealing which Peter he is. Neat detail I noticed on my second watch, makes these movies so much more fun to revisit
The one thing I noticed upon re-watching was that you do see how May gets injured by the glider. It comes so quick that you don't have time to process what happened.
During the scene when May tells Peter "With great power, there must come a great responsibility", everyone in my theater started gasping and saying "Oh no", and I didn't get why at first, but then I remembered what always happens right after he's told that line.
Noob
Missed Win: When Otto makes his entrance, his theme is heard playing in the background before, during, and after he appears. In fact, Tobey and Andrew's themes play when they make their entrances as well as later on the Statue of Liberty.
Jon Watts and Michael Giacchino are gosh-darn geniuses!
I actually didn't notice Tobey's and Andrew's themes, the movie theatre I was at was applauding so loud the movie needed subtitles.
Since it's a part 1, all the nerding out might go in the second part
@@maneoj46 Truuue.
heres kind of another in some trailers for the new doctor strange it has a sort of sanctum santorium vibe the background of when wong opens his sling ring thing is infact the exact same place
That scene where Goblin just slowly begins to smile through Peter's punches secured in my mind that this movie was amazing.
17:33 got me laughing and crying at the same time - "Glad aunt may is gonna be here for the long run"
Also aunt may dies after this scene
Honestly one of the most unexpected moment for me personally is where spidey vs golbin starts and it hits me "oh right! This guy has superstrength!", since goblin spends so much time using gadgets like glider and the bombs so I forgot he can stand up to peter physically as well. Them having this brutal beatdown slamming each other through walls and floors made me go from some confidence that even still peter has this because golbin really doesn't have any of his tricks to the horrifying realization this will be quite a struggle.
One small detail I really loved in NWH has to be a subtle callback to the very first Avengers movie, where Electro comments on how "different" this universe feels to him, which is likely due to him being so in tune with the electrical grid that he can straight up sense the arc reactor energy being used in the grid, since Tony hooked New York (and likely most of the country after some time?) to run off arc reactors.
Proof
@@OgGuak420 Literally the very first scene of Iron Man in the first Avengers movie, where he's in the river replacing power lines with arc reactor tech.
@@OgGuak420 literally watch the movies lmao there's your proof. arc reactor tech has been a big deal in the mcu movies since the very first one.
I interpreted it as in the frenquency of the world is diferent, my mind just went to the "The Flash" multiverse explanation.
But this is way cooler
A win that was missed here was during the scene where Strange first brings out the box
This is the first time of a couple where Peter calls him Strange instead of Sir
When he's trying to be nice, he calls him sir
When it's serious he calls him by his last name
Subtle, but great
Strange tells him to call him sir too thougj
The thing I loved about this movie when it came out was the absolute frustration at the beginning and how relatable it was. It felt so true to how the media wasn’t really putting out the facts or you wondered if it was fact. People will really believe anything. They conveyed that so well that it made you genuinely frustrated and overwhelmed and just… flabbergasted!
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Little wrestling factoid! The slam that Goblin hits peter with there isn't a body slam, it's a spinebuster. Body slams usually don't involve you going down with the other guy.
This movie made me fall in love with Spider-Man again. This was the perfect fan service comic book movie that clues in the fans that have stayed with each Peter but never leaves anyone out!
This version of Parker and MJ have such good chemisty becuase they're actually a couple.
But also, yes. After the Spidey films and Dune, Zendaya is fast approching "always a win" status. Girl has been killing it lately, imo.
I was excited for this film period but when I realized that it was going to focus on helping the villains, I was pretty much squealing with excitement. I love villains, I love redemption stories, I love the concept of helping others even when they don't deserve it. Willem Dafoe is- of course- amazing in this (the face he makes while getting punched is terrifying) but I was so happy that Alfred Molina got his chance to shine in that apartment scene.
I also love how they use the clip of Peter unmasking in endgame, which fits with the plot point of peter being unmasked
17:12 The old school Formula 1 sticker, that Tony Stark probably got when he raced in monaco in iron man 2
finally someone who has seen it too
This whole “Home” trilogy being the “origin” for our MCU Spider-Man is an excellent touch from Marvel Studios and sets us up perfectly for Spidey 4!
To me the home trilogy has shown just how much tony stark interference has screwed up peters early superhero development. Homecoming showed how it overinflated his his ego, far from home was entirely tonys fault and no way home are the consequences of that. Only at the end is peter making his own suit, standing on his own without stark tech or happy and is able to become the friendly neighborhood Spiderman
Edit: i may have also meant dependance/independence, peters reliance on tony or his tech has done little to actually help peter sometimes making things worse, only at the end does peter gain independence as a superhero and as a person and saves the day by relying on himself (buh dum tiss).
These were my thought after seeing the movie for the first time in theaters which was a while ago so its a bit hazy
Agreed. They had a plan the WHOLE time
@@HaydrogenBomb No, they didn't. Tom Holland had to fight for this story.
@@exceedcharge1 Tony can't be blamed for Mysterio's actions, the man was clearly a narcissist who didn't care at all about the destruction his actions caused. Yes he screwed him over but that doesn't justify everything else Mysterio did. Honestly, this line of thinking has been used for so many of Tony's villains and villains in general, when maybe, just maybe, they could've let it go? Like a normal, well-adjusted person? Most people do not turn to violent criminal activity when snubbed or screwed over, so that is still no justification for what they did, nor is it reasonable to place all of or even close to a majority of the blame on the hero or person that initially screwed them over.
@@exceedcharge1 They were setting it all up for Peter to lose it all. Sometimes it's more important for character growth when you have it all handed to you and then reality hits you vs the other way around. Also I don't know how to you he's only JUST becoming the friendly neighborhood spiderman. I wasn't aware the core of spiderman's personality revolved around his self made equipment.
Re: Sandman, It wasn't actually confirmed that the villains only came here at their points of death. Remember, Lizard survived as well. Or, in other words, as I learned today, "Everybody who confuses Correlation with Causation ends up dead".
I remember the spider sense scene, and throughout that whole fight, I was clenching my everything. Honestly don’t think I stopped until we got back home. I knew about the quote and what it signified, but I had forgotten, and in the moment it rang no bells. I’m actually kind of glad I forgot. Just like why I don’t watch trailers, it would have spoiled the result, and so I was kept on edge throughout the whole scene..
19:25 Holy shit that is possibly the coolest detail in every SM movie to date
I didn’t even notice this but my dad found out that the Night Monkey suit in this movie was literally just Peter’s suit flipped inside out! He even realises he could do that after trying to wash the suit. Really fun detail!
The night monkey suit from far from home was just a modified shield tactical suit made for Spider-Man to use the inverted suit we see here is the one he made for the climax of far from home
WIN YOU MISSED: When the brick flies through the window and Matt Murdock catches it, Peter also reacts at the exact same time due to his Peter Tingle. Matt was simply the one who managed to catch it first!
Wag the Director:
-To make up for the fact that his character was now bald, J. K. Simmons insisted on keeping J. Jonah Jameson's cigar and mustache for this film, due to wanting to have some aspects from his portrayal in Sam Raimi's trilogy to carry over in the MCU.
-Both Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield gave input on their characters' respective journeys after their previous onscreen appearances, with Maguire specifically requesting that "very minimal" backstory be given on what happened to his Peter Parker after Spider-Man 3.
-While details weren't elaborated, it is reported that Tom Holland fought for elements in the ending to be included in the final product.
10:43 I appreciate that Goblin’s laugh is a win all on its own 😊
It never fails to give chills
@@i.d.9754 Goddamn how'd you know I commented here Mr. InPlainSight? Was that just an accident or something, cuz I see you on everything I post - which makes sense because that shows up in your feed - but a random comment I made on another video?? That's interesting 😂
@@artloverivy The video just appeared on my feed, I began to scroll through the comments, and then I noticed you and wanted to reply to your comment
Simple as that (also sorry if I spooked you or something)
@@i.d.9754 Nah it's totally fine. Just got me curious as to how that's possible lmao
Fun Fact - Willem Dafoe said that he would return as the Green Goblin, if they let him do nearly all his own stunts and acts. This man deserves an Oscar
11:10 his shirts wrinkled because he doesn’t have an iron, man
I honestly find that I enjoy watching these happy recaps almost as much as I enjoy watching the movie itself. I love talking about a movie over some boneless wings or a burger with whoever I went to the movie with, and your videos almost always hold that same energy. Such a blessing. Can't wait for Sonic 2 to come out on DVD so I can see how much you (hopefully) loved it!
I'm surprised but also extremely happy this movie came close to the insanity that was Endgame on release. I didn't think we'd reach that level of excitement (and loud) at least not for a while. As a die hard Spider-man fan I'm glad this movie was the one that gave our reactions to Endgame a run for its money.
Im surprised you didn't win Dr Strange's reaction to finding out Peter didn't try anything before going to him for a magic fix.
Other than that, loved this movie and looking forward to part 2 here.
My interpretation of the spider sense against goblin in happy’s house, is that he knew exactly who the spider sense was warning him about, but he didn’t want to believe it, but he just let it go and trusted it
i knew from the get go that i’d love this video, and even so i’m feeling emotional over the portal references (spidey and the portal series have gotten me through some really rough times). “thinking with portals” not once, but twice so you’d cover both games and then following the second up with cave johnson’s lemon rant from 2 (J. K. Simmons is a treasure in every role he plays), my god the script on this video is just so good.
y’all put in so much work and attention to detail into your content and it shows. couldn’t think of a more enjoyable way to spend 22 minutes
20:16 I mean it's technically more of a "pop-up spinebuster" than a "body slam", but either way I need to see more villains bust out wrestling moves.
It's whatever dude
So, the spell didn’t bring them in when they died. It brings them in at the moment the learn Peter Parker is Spider-man.
Sandman saw his face but didn’t know who that was until some years later for whatever reason.
Electro got plugged into the mainframe “absorbing data” and probably learned subconsciously.
Goblin, Lizard, & Otto all came the moment they found out in their movies. And Venom came over when the symbiote connected to the multiverse and learned what SM3’s venom knew.
@MrNmassengale1 no, theyre taken from around the moment that they learn Peters identity. The Lizard never died.
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They specifically call out that the Lizard doesn’t die.
I read an articleake a theory.....I think it kinda interesting.....the theory suggests that Andrew and Tobey were also been pulled before they untimely death...Andrew might be fighting a villain while Tobey might got ambushed by them and they both got killed...🤷
Honestly the whole venom fiasco is a mess (along with the vulture in morbius) and I've just tried to think about and hope that a later movie clears that up since no theory's Ive seen have been logical
"Sandman saw his face but didn’t know who that was until some years later for whatever reason."
No, Sandman definitely knew that Spider-Man was Peter Parker once he unmasked himself. He apologizes to Tobey about killing Uncle Ben, remember? He knew.
Honestly, I just take it that all the villains were brought in from random points in time. For most of them, this happened to be either right before they found out Spider-Man's identity or right before they died.
Willem Dafoe really said "Oh you thought my first time playing this character was iconic? Just watch me" and then took acting steroids and delivered the absolute best version of that character.
Though the best character in the film is that guy in the beginning who thinks he can catch Peter and so he just jumps straight off the front of the Taxi, that guy is going somewhere... that somewhere being hospital
I know it sounds cliché and the movie hasn't been out long enough to justify this, but: this is my all-time favourite movie. It blends my most beloved fiction topics (parallel universes/altered timelines, and comic books) so beautifully, and it far exceeds any previous favourites I have had.
This whole movie is Peter being an immature idiot and taking off his mask while complaining that people know who he is... Not my favourite Marvel movie at all.
@@OranRobinson that made no sense that's not even what it is it's the fact his identity is known by the whole world and the people he loves are suffering because of it did you actually watch the movie and know why he went to strange
@@elishawilson5342 i watched it and i know why he went to strange... My issue is him being his whiny immature goofy awkward self and messing up multiverses. I wanted to like the movie...i really did. I just ended up annoyed. Def my least favourite Spider-Man movie.
@@OranRobinson he's a kid lol you're complaining about him being a kid that's just hilarious
@@OranRobinson not to mention that's literally Peter Parker he can be whiny sometimes and what did you expect when he's trying to make sure the ones he cares about are the only ones that don't forget about him
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The fact that cinema wins made a portal 2 reference makes my inner gamer happy
19:00 When it cuts to Norman walking away during this scene, I noticed the camera lingered on Octavius for a moment longer. I got the subtle idea that Octavius had heard "Norman's" weird response and he was smart enough to start working out something was wrong
On win number 70, that really makes a LOT of sense. OG Peter was definitely tough because it was all on him, and no tech
A little disappointed you didn't give more wins to Charlie Cox's Matt Murdock cameo. His performance as Daredevil and the show in general is by far the best thing Marvel has ever created and having him back and officially in the MCU is worth more wins.
please take my 'win' (like) for this comment!
I am just so grateful for your channel. My life has felt so negative lately, and it’s so nice to come watch something that’s so articulately developed on just the positive aspects of something. Really trying to be grateful for the little things and these videos are one of them.
What I love most about the Goblin fight is that Willem DaFoe insisted on doing as many of the physical scenes himself as he could.
There's so many things I love about this movie but thing I love the most is that it completes Spider-Man's MCU origin story. I'll admit, I didn't really like Homecoming mainly because it didn't feel like a Spider-Man movie to me but I did love Far From Home because I felt Peter was growing as a character. Now after watching No Way Home, I now realize why Homecoming was the way it was and, once I get No Way Home, I'm going to rewatch the whole trilogy to get a better understanding of it and it's origin. Maybe I'll like Homecoming more
A few of my unmentioned favorites:
The tips of Ock's tentacles being "locked off," steady and not moving while the nanobots have control of them, but the arms supporting them still wavering around a little bit.
Of course the crowd is made up of adults: it's school time. If a kid goes to Midtown, they could just see Peter inside, and if they don't go to Midtown, they need to be at their own schools right then, not standing outside his.
The first time Peter punches Norman in that closeup shot, Normie looks confused and afraid, but every punch after has him grinning and confident. So like a cartoon case of amnesia, a bonk on the head really did fix him, bringing Norman back and sending Goblin away. If Pete had just stopped before that second punch, the rest of the fight wouldn't have happened - after all, if the kid who's supposed to be helping you is (to your mind) suddenly attacking you for no reason, you'd retreat into hiding and let "the other guy" take the abuse instead too.
7:46 the best part is that Cumberbatch was just slipping over and over, so they just kept it in
16:58 in fact food is high level acting statement. Whenever things are normal in a movie, nobody is actually eating, they pick nothing from it and pretend to eat and anybody can tell the difference. But think of any scene where the characters are actually eating or drinking something, it's a great scene with awesome acting skills from the cast
And being honest I mostly recall villains actually eating or at least morally ambigous characters so...
13:46 something that you didn't mention about that shot is that it's a reference to when Peter threw away his spider mask in Spider Man 2 (ramai)
This movie’s script was like a fanfiction and in the best way. I can’t wait to hear your thoughts on Sonic the Hedgehog 2 when it comes into digital.
15:55 Finally!! I never see anyone talk about this dialogue here. It’s so nice and important for our mcu Spider-Man to finally speak up for himself for once. I feel like normally he’s talking to some “higher” hero or person.
I really liked Charlie Cox's Daredevil cameo appearance in this movie, and I'm even more excited to see him in the "Echo" Disney Plus series and Vincent D'Onofrio's Kingpin after his appearance in the "Hawkeye" Disney Plus series
Is it a fact that he will appear in Echo? When was that announced?
@@GreatBuckeyeGamer yes indeed it was
I would've liked you to comment on the scene in which Peter decides to steal the box from Strange. For me, it's the emotional backbone of the movie in many ways, and I like that it has little to do with nostalgia. I think the music and even the camera frame that moment as pretty significant for the overall story.
I love how MJ and Peter’s chemistry reflect those of the actors. Aww, now I’m sad.