I think normal mode could be the enemy spawning at the same wave as molten/fallen, just with less waves (speedy boss would be the last threat besides grave digger, and perhaps nerf the boss's hp a bit) so it makes up for the difficulty name
It's funny how that's the only map in the game with a "Very Easy" difficulty. The rewards are like a joke but the map itself is very fun for challenges since it's basically Polluted Wasteland lite edition.
What I like about the necro is that there's a chance one of the skeletons(including at max level) will be moving in an idle position and it reminds me of that one meme where a guy would be floating and t-posing while the other guy is running. It's still funny.
The necromancer here seems to be inspired by the necromancer from Diablo 2. They have very similar designs and the attack of the TDS one is similar to Diablo 2's bone spike spell, which also pierces through enemies and is similarly colored. Edit: Sorry guys I haven't ever played Bloons TD, but looking at the necromancer design from there the TDS tower looks drastically different and more like the D2 necromancer, both having really pale skin and dark grey clothing.
I was more-so thinking they ripped it from Bedwars’ Necromancer who uses kills to collect souls, which in turn spawns graves that can be used to make your own army of skeletons
I really think it would be cool if, starting at the level that the swordsman is introduced, a ranged archer skeleton would be cool and fitting. He would at the tier 2 graves have a compound bow and at tier 3, a musket. Giving the swordsman the same type of hit as the Glad would make a huge difference as well (I would assume).
Instead of redoing normal mode they should tweak it to be harder and change it to a "rush mode" which would be harder than fallen and would give 1000 coins upon beating it. This would be the best grinding method since it would be shorter than molten and give more money which would heavily encourage players to try to beat the harder mode.
That’s a bad idea, if you do that beginners who just started will play molten mode, get destroyed because they only have scout and sniper, then never play the game again because of how badly they got destroyed, which will lower the amount of new players
also commander dialogue is for older models of zombies where there was no breakers, and they haven't updated it for newer models of zombies, so that why it does not say breakers
I think tds need add smth like sandbox mode, when u can give yourself cash, spawn enemys, getting skins that u nit have (ofc only for this mode, to see how they look) and some more, ofc for this mode u not gonna get money or xp, but its gonna be really good for type of content like that, cuz u can just spawnmax necro and watch
Normal mode balancing (in my le opinion): less enemies per wave, more cash per skip to prepare, slow bosses normal boss speddy boss: should have half of their hp down make the grave digger bit slower
i think only some waves in normal mode should be nerfed (esp wave 20 and the later waves) and just an increase in rewards (250 coins maybe). Molten mode is the one that needs the buff; the enemies in that mode literally get melted
@@Prussia.1815 But that’s how it should be. The amount of time (or money) you need to invest to unlock Engineer should be well worth it. You shouldn’t have to grind for over a day straight or spend $50+ for a tower that is literally worse than Gold Minigunner.
Elite think about this now. there is a new gamemode coming and my theory is that the awakened fallen king would be the boss kinda thing, imagine if the name of it was : revenge of the fallen, or Unded difficultty
TBH the event could be more original, they only added the old osts, and the new ones are remixed versions of the older ones, the enemies are all inspired from older ones and are quite weird,
its still fun the enemies mostly gained new abilities also the OSTS are not jsut remixes for example with hunting and reignited are brand new the only one that was completly reused is harvesting season (lord sinester's theme) in act 2
@@thefreezers enemies are not just reskins they needed to get remodeled and even completly reworked delays are needed cus they don't want more bugs bugs are not their fault they needed to realese update during halloween
@@piotrm5635 however they have announced the event a long time ago, had time to work on it, and it still had looots of bugs, unoriginal enemîes, which are just simple remodels which take 2 seconds to make, the same osts, maybe 1 new one, and the others are remixes that anyone can make in 1 sec
I realized that elite didn't upgrade necro to the dark hold when he had the money too, and in the beginning the even mentioned that it is best at last level as well
Now for everybody watching now I know this is an old video but I just wanted to point out the reason why normal mode is hard is probably (I think so) is probably because it’s a beginner mode that means you won’t have a farm until very long like by the time you’ll get a farm you’ll be playing molten mode probably and so easy mode was just not intended to be like farmed on only defending that’s why the strong enemies are coming earlier like in molten mode and fallen you get time to farm and stuff and in easy mode nah you don’t
the thing of ability killing your skeletons is actually fine, like... in max level it would've op as hell if it didnt kill your skeletons, since the bar fills really fast and it's like 5 seconds for them to upgrade, you could get lots of executioners skeletons in seconds, which would be really, like REALLY op.
yeah but that's the point is a hardcore tower it's supposed to be op and even like that i doubt it would be better than accel so why not give him that?
@@Berlinh2 accel costs 2500 gems and necromancer 1800... Also if ya gonna talk about necromancer being a event tower... Is gladiator better than engineer? Toxic gunner better than minigunner? Nope.
Normal Mode is like normal life, so that’s why it’s so difficult
Im going to melt myself so i get an easier molten life
@@Pether_Nortalmfw i fall (fallen mode)
my life is a frickin hardcore
@@IndexMessenger im going too eat some pizza (pizza party)
i am going to jump in a pit of nuclear waste
I think normal mode could be the enemy spawning at the same wave as molten/fallen, just with less waves (speedy boss would be the last threat besides grave digger, and perhaps nerf the boss's hp a bit) so it makes up for the difficulty name
Yea same think
Grave digger health is fine, that’s the only easy part of normal mode surprisingly
Normal mode doesnt need a nerf cuz if u got militant and commander its beatable
Better if its ace pilot
@@Finnn69thing is molten is easier and gives more rewards
@@Fireinthewateryep since more time to prepare
The hardest wave on normal is wave 20. You get 3 slow bosses plus a hidden boss, and if you try skipping, you also get a speedy boss and more.
I beat my first normal mode on level 185 💀
Mine was lv 18 since i played in the time when normal mode is really the easiest mode
Level 1 gyat💀💀💀
bro got hard carryed@@UA-camCodmGerandFan
It's so ez you only need minigunner and commander to solo it also soldier for Early
@@fchhchchchcbro is using minigun for normal mode
yo elite, ive been loving the very frequent videos from you, i hope this keeps up
i liked my own- … sorry guys, i earned a braincell
Now you have 2 braincells :D
*gives 5 braincells
I need sanity guys pls
Hey is that crazy daves pot -._.^
Here is 100 brain cells
It's funny how that's the only map in the game with a "Very Easy" difficulty. The rewards are like a joke but the map itself is very fun for challenges since it's basically Polluted Wasteland lite edition.
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Skeleton: Hell nah, i'll go other way.
What I like about the necro is that there's a chance one of the skeletons(including at max level) will be moving in an idle position and it reminds me of that one meme where a guy would be floating and t-posing while the other guy is running. It's still funny.
Wow thats so funny
elite chill with the uploads
on fallen mode tank comes out at wave 30, on normal mode a boss with 40K hp and the ability to spawn enemies and stun towers.
Watching Elite ranting about how hard Normal Mode is is more entertaining that what i've seen all day 😂
The necromancer here seems to be inspired by the necromancer from Diablo 2.
They have very similar designs and the attack of the TDS one is similar to Diablo 2's bone spike spell, which also pierces through enemies and is similarly colored.
Edit: Sorry guys I haven't ever played Bloons TD, but looking at the necromancer design from there the TDS tower looks drastically different and more like the D2 necromancer, both having really pale skin and dark grey clothing.
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He doesnt sit ona thrown guys i played diablo 2 a bit and yes very similar
He also looks like Merasmus from TF2
I was more-so thinking they ripped it from Bedwars’ Necromancer who uses kills to collect souls, which in turn spawns graves that can be used to make your own army of skeletons
I really think it would be cool if, starting at the level that the swordsman is introduced, a ranged archer skeleton would be cool and fitting. He would at the tier 2 graves have a compound bow and at tier 3, a musket. Giving the swordsman the same type of hit as the Glad would make a huge difference as well (I would assume).
uploading twice in one day, gg
He starter uploading more since the actual update
Instead of redoing normal mode they should tweak it to be harder and change it to a "rush mode" which would be harder than fallen and would give 1000 coins upon beating it. This would be the best grinding method since it would be shorter than molten and give more money which would heavily encourage players to try to beat the harder mode.
Well if they do that it's now unbalanced
That’s a bad idea, if you do that beginners who just started will play molten mode, get destroyed because they only have scout and sniper, then never play the game again because of how badly they got destroyed, which will lower the amount of new players
@@YourAverageSpeedrunner the mode gets changed they make a new easy mode
@@YourAverageSpeedrunnerthey already go molten though
@@flameknight7680 ok fair
also commander dialogue is for older models of zombies where there was no breakers, and they haven't updated it for newer models of zombies, so that why it does not say breakers
What they should do if make the summoning not ability based, kinda like in btd6
Damn you really like this tower lol
I think tds need add smth like sandbox mode, when u can give yourself cash, spawn enemys, getting skins that u nit have (ofc only for this mode, to see how they look) and some more, ofc for this mode u not gonna get money or xp, but its gonna be really good for type of content like that, cuz u can just spawnmax necro and watch
I remember watching you when you still made tds memes
Man i remeber when elite was raging at the christmas 2022 event "put a little more heart into your event" and i think they did just that.
necromancer can solo normal mode but cant on molten it only put him to 25-30k hp
Idk i played on molten and 3 maxed necromancers are beated him, played on toy board and didnt replaced necromancers
I like Elite’s new posting schedule
Guys he’s making tds vids again WOOO
Normal mode balancing (in my le opinion): less enemies per wave, more cash per skip to prepare, slow bosses normal boss speddy boss: should have half of their hp down make the grave digger bit slower
i recommend you to check out new dj skin, music is really cool XD
Normal mode structuring is meant to be like tower battles since at the time they weren’t that different from eachother
I watch your videos while waiting for my van
The fact that it did a little bit better than acceletator and engineer is concerning
Yessir epic
elite: "normal mode is the hardest mode"
me: *soloes it* im not sure about that
no no, hes right lmfao. no arguing bout it
Are you sped?
5:24 I'm pretty sure the reason they die is they're trying to prevent players from just spamming the ability.
That makes sense but wouldn’t the Skeltons be weaker?(like less sword skeletons for example)
do u need the priv server to do those community maps like that super easy one
hey elite can you make tds memes i miss this :(
Epic video
normal mode is so hard because its molten before they became melted and weak and fallen before they fell down the stairs and broke their legs
facts
elite : "lets see what he summons!" (necromancer summoned fallens)
Elite try this challenge with reworked necromancer and reworked normal.
Can you make pls normal mode vs 1 accel
This is the first time I’m actually seeing this like six hours ago. I have never like seen a video just like it released right now.
i think only some waves in normal mode should be nerfed (esp wave 20 and the later waves) and just an increase in rewards (250 coins maybe). Molten mode is the one that needs the buff; the enemies in that mode literally get melted
Well I guess you found the reason for molten mode’s name
It makes sense the normal mode is the hardest: molten mode means the enemies weak bc they just got melted and on fallen they are literally dead
Normal mode is basically just tower battles wave layout but a bit different
Necromancer vs necromancer is crazy
btw necromancers dps alone is 48 but the executinor skeleton dps was like 132 or 142
Do gperk mini next
The engineer should be able to spawn 4 sentries. 2 sentries at level 0, 3 sentries at level 4, and 4 sentries at max. Change my mind.
The funny thing about that is that’s literally how it started out. Then they nerfed engineer into the ground and turned my favorite tower into trash.
@@thembigstonks7016 Fr that tower used to be worth 4500 gems, now its pretty mid..
I kind of disagree cus if they did that it would just be a bit too op
@@Prussia.1815 But that’s how it should be. The amount of time (or money) you need to invest to unlock Engineer should be well worth it. You shouldn’t have to grind for over a day straight or spend $50+ for a tower that is literally worse than Gold Minigunner.
@@Prussia.1815 Not really, i mean it costs 4500 gems! thats 2000 more then accel. you can place 8 ccelraters, and 6 engineer
Crazy A necromancer or a big necromancer with a cool name
Should give more wave reward
In act two if two people bring elf camp on the final wave the boss gets stuck still.
The boss is the last threat in act 2, no one will waste a slot just to freeze the boss
So many great updates, so many great towers all unable for me to unlock because my memory can't handle it.
Necromancer feels like crook boss but the skeletons has swords instead of guns
Elite think about this now. there is a new gamemode coming and my theory is that the awakened fallen king would be the boss kinda thing, imagine if the name of it was : revenge of the fallen, or Unded difficultty
TBH the event could be more original, they only added the old osts, and the new ones are remixed versions of the older ones, the enemies are all inspired from older ones and are quite weird,
Well better than Xmas 2022 atleast
its still fun
the enemies mostly gained new abilities
also the OSTS are not jsut remixes
for example with hunting and reignited are brand new
the only one that was completly reused is harvesting season (lord sinester's theme) in act 2
@@piotrm5635 all the other ones are re used, they took a long time for the update, delayed each act MANY times, with lots of bugs
@@thefreezers enemies are not just reskins
they needed to get remodeled and even completly reworked
delays are needed cus they don't want more bugs
bugs are not their fault they needed to realese update during halloween
@@piotrm5635 however they have announced the event a long time ago, had time to work on it, and it still had looots of bugs, unoriginal enemîes, which are just simple remodels which take 2 seconds to make, the same osts, maybe 1 new one, and the others are remixes that anyone can make in 1 sec
Necromancer meets Necromancer what we all wanted
Ur voice and avatar is very cute ❤
me when somebody vote for normal "alright time to find their address now where is my Deagle XIX
necro may not be the best tower for solos, but it's really good against slow hordes
And breakers too
@@SF_NoobVNyeah essentially when the 3k health executioner gets one shot by the 25 health breaker super good
lmao i think it only affects breaker and not mystery zombie@@femurbreaker0
@@SF_NoobVNkeep in mind that these breakers have like 25 hp
fallen breakers have 65
Every time you see him pause and not shooting think of it as engineer building a torrent but he is just upgrading the graves
They currently have no animation for that I do believe it's a rushed Tower
Can you try this but on molten?
Epok
The speedy boss gets me when I'm solo
Necromancer is better in a group of 3 so if you max the grave number and spam the spawn key you get a military of skeletons in a matter of seconds
we need a remake
The easiest mode in the game is also the hardest mode in the game I like when they use undertale logic
Also tip skeletons aren't RNG you can actually see them based on their graves each level has a different model added to them
They only add a little bit of detail into the final level
I realized that elite didn't upgrade necro to the dark hold when he had the money too, and in the beginning the even mentioned that it is best at last level as well
he didn't have enough. Darkhold costs 30k and he only had 25k
Now for everybody watching now I know this is an old video but I just wanted to point out the reason why normal mode is hard is probably (I think so) is probably because it’s a beginner mode that means you won’t have a farm until very long like by the time you’ll get a farm you’ll be playing molten mode probably and so easy mode was just not intended to be like farmed on only defending that’s why the strong enemies are coming earlier like in molten mode and fallen you get time to farm and stuff and in easy mode nah you don’t
Ahh necromancer my very first gems tower
I wonder what would happened if you use all 3
Definition of when you get the boss as an playable character:
necromancer said "let's see who's a better summoner"
Does necromancer stay forever in the shop or it will gone anytime?
Next video: one minigunner Vs normal mode
They should make normal mode gives more income cuz why not, it gives us horrible amount of coins
I think u misunderstood there are no 5 hidden bosses its just 1 and that was 4 hidden zombies
how did u get in server in first seconds of video
New video title
Elite complaining about normal mode
when is 1 mini/g mini vs normal
the thing of ability killing your skeletons is actually fine, like... in max level it would've op as hell if it didnt kill your skeletons, since the bar fills really fast and it's like 5 seconds for them to upgrade, you could get lots of executioners skeletons in seconds, which would be really, like REALLY op.
Ye but it's a hardcore tower, and very expensive, it should be op
yeah but that's the point is a hardcore tower it's supposed to be op and even like that i doubt it would be better than accel so why not give him that?
@@Berlinh2 accel costs 2500 gems and necromancer 1800... Also if ya gonna talk about necromancer being a event tower... Is gladiator better than engineer? Toxic gunner better than minigunner? Nope.
necro is more of an event tower since its in the exclusive category
Awsome
the fact fallen mode has abnormals but normal mode has just buff zombies that come in earlier
fallen gets way harder past wave 30. What do you want
Even below confirm that normal mode is the hardest
I hasn't seen that map before, but does it have a similar layout to the original nuclear wasteland map?
Pretty sure you need to override the map
Yea this tower needs a buff
I beat my first normal mode on like around level 5-8 or something
"No wonder this is the hardest mode in the game" still winning with 1 tower
Yo I beat molten on this with necromancers only! But i had supports, glad, and farm
Normal mode became easier because of the update and now it’s actually called easy mode
Make a new 1 Necromancer vs Normal mode because Necromancer got buffed
Awesome
LETS GOOOO
ah yes wave 21 you get a speedy boss 3 s;low bosses and hidden spam when on fallen you get 1 slow boss
how 2 plat tds: watch elite
this thing needs a buff
WHAT THE HECK ELITE IS SHOWING HIS VOICE!? HOW LONG HAVE I NOT BEEN WATCHING HIM!?
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glad Necromancer got buffed now unlike before it was terrible before
Plz try it on molten da true easy mode