MkLeo vs Armada - Singles Pools: Round Robin - Ultimate Summit 2 | Marth vs Inkling
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- FOX MkLeo (Marth) vs [A] Armada (Inkling) - Singles Pools: Pool A - Smash Ultimate Summit 2
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Armada still has a little bit of hesitation in his play, but holy hell is he terrifying when he actually starts flowing
He's my favorite player in this entire tournament I think. He's clearly very intelligent and cerebral, he just hasn't quite made teh transition from Melee to Ultimate yet so there a piece or two missing, but man, I bet in a few months he could easily be taking top spots in tournaments. All the fundamental skills and stuff are there, now he just needs more time with the game to get teh fine tuning process going more.
I love when Marth lands his tippers. That sound is so satisfying.
The sound FX team in this game really deserve a raise imo
It's just Ike's, they took away his tipper sounds from Melee.
It gets bigger when I pivot
Zero_OR 5 whatever, they still sound juicy af
@@TheDriver458 they don't sound unique anymore and it saddens me.
For real though Armada is getting sooooo good. I know he grinds regularly, but considering how much competitive Ultimate experience he has, this is so impressive. To play so well against the best player in the world compared to how he was losing in pools at tournaments just a few months ago. Amazing come up. Give it another 6 months, he'll be placing much higher and outperforming Cosmos(No hate). But I have to be fair here, he does need better Ink management, and he was giving Leo way too much respect off stage considering Marth's predictable recovery. His timing for ledge guarding was also a little off, but I'm sure he'll work to tighten that all up.
Well said
I believe armada is improving and will be a very good competitive pro. Now I’m disappointed I wanted to see Leo’s Joker. That would have been the true measuring stick.
@@GoatOmega Armada was streaming gameplay with him all night. The highlights are on his channel👌🏻
I don't think it'll take 6 months. Unless he decided not to attend any tournaments until 6 months. But armada mention it took him a year or so to become the GOAT he was in melee. So seeing his growth here definitely is a strong indication of what he can become in the future for ultimate.
I don't see him outplacing cosmos
So close! Armada could have literally won any of those games he lost.
But Armada didn't because he couldn't. Don't sleep on Leo, he has been the world's best Ultimate player since nearly the beginning and for good reason. He won using Marth, his secondary, who has been nerfed quite a bit in Ultimate. If Leo was using Joker Amada probably would have gotten 3-0d.
Lol marth is so bad and leo would have destroyed armada on stream
Mhmmm nah. Leo was using only 50% of his power
@@rebekahmackenzie What does his Joker have to do with those first 2 games? They were literally last stock last hit. Stop downplaying on Armada, literally no one is sleeping on MKLeo. Hes considered the best for a reason
@@alexyanez8033 Marth is amazing, the hell you mean?
Nothing but respect for armada that’s impressive as hell
I wonder what kind of monster armada will be the next few days. When he streamed last time he was keeping up with leo. Like dude. Leo was the key for armada's growth and Adam being the legend he is adapted so well.
When I saw how long the set was 😳
I didn’t think armada was that nice
Ayoade Armada was actually going pretty back and forth with Leo’s Marth and Joker on stream, with a bit in Leo’s favour obviously. Armadas definitely getting way better :)
KingIntox yeah I was just watching that video, he’s nuts
When I saw the time I was like so I’m guessing he didn’t use joker
KingIntox Leo is known for sandbagging during friendlies
I've been psyched for the return of MkLeo's Marth, but it's kinda hard to cheer for it here.
Waiiiit aren’t you from Ikechi’s discord?
Know what you feel
P
Why?
@@xNulgIt's just because I'll typically cheer for the underdog...and I want that to be in MKLeo's Marth, but in this situation, it's Armada. I'm also a huge fan of both players, for all the games they've played.
MK Leo's spacing is immaculate the man is pixel perfect. He's always getting tippers and he's always as safe as possible when throwing out a move
Armada has improved tremendously.
Marth is a million times more entertaining than Lucina.
Ados his tippers just add so much more to think about during a game
lol true but i keep thinking back to that protobanham v light match
6:31 It looks like Marth's sword is still covered in Inkling's ink. Haha
Is that Android's brudder?
He loves his brudder
I think he loves his brudder
Armada just gets better & better everytime I see him
He may of lost but dang it was close armada looking clean!
May have
@@Chinpou_ it's getting worse and worse... first it was 'would of', now 'may of'.. what's next?
'Excuse me, do you "of" the time?'
'Sorry I don't "of" any change'
I am straight up not of-ing a good time with this trend
Aleph Bot 😂😂 the last sentence
Melee goat vs Ultimate goat. You love to see it.
Armada’s comeback factor is absurdly high
Is MKLeo confirming Viewtiful Joe with his pose?
My hopes say yes
He belongs in the roster.
Nope, is kpop reference
@@carlostv6 twice fancy?
@@MrOmega555 yeap
Who’s joe?
lmfao "Armada always driving on E"
EE really said "my careers older than you boy"
Imagine if Armada plays Peach in this game.
you might as well imagine him playing roy koopa because she's undergone such a dramatic transformation from melee to ultimate that she's practically a different character now
he never will, he find it boring to play the same characters in different games. he never considered peach or fox or any characters he played extensively in melee for ultimate but mewtwo.
part of why he is still playing ultimate is inkling feel fresh
Im so happy to see marth make a comeback in smash. Thanks mkleo
Anyone else think a weakness of Inkling is that when they throw a bomb on ledge that if the opponent pick and option right when it explodes then it’s kind of hard to see what option they picked. Not an Inkling player tho
It's crazy how on the cusp Armada is in everything regarding ultimate. His comebacks, his talent, his adaptability is all so close to making him a top player. Really exciting stuff
I give him a month or 2 of good polish and he will be contending top spots in tournaments.
@@DekkarJr sure seems like it
Great set! Impressive showing from Armada, and Leo with the top tier skill as always!
Watching these 2 play neutral is beautiful
The only reason Armada isn’t doing better is because he came from Melee and instead of Smash 4.
Diego Cifuentes not really but okay
no excuses. you coud also say he stopped playing competitively for a few months or complain about the swedish scene etc...but armada can surpass such odds
"GOOD BYE "at the end Lool
When Armada lands a crazy comeback, us Melee players just say "Yup, that's Armada".
Hahahah yes sir!!
Ive been playing marth since melee, right? And Im no professional marth player or anything crazy like that - but MAN - for a while it was hard to keep him as my main. Its real good to see him getting some love in the top tiers :) even if its just for labbing or whatever, I love seeing my boy do well
When mk Leo sees everything the opponent does in the battle, he wakes up!
I wonder if Armada experiences PTSD from facing Marth?
Armada's Inklink looking clean 👌
The Hero King back in top form.
Saw no joker in the thumbnail, knew the result before even clicking on the video
Nice to see the Prince of Smash finally go head to head with the Swedish Sniper.
Interesting take though, since Leo believes Marth does better against Inkling than Joker. From a theory craft perspective that matchup would seem like hell for Marth because low profiling. However, theory craft is certainly not everything
low profilings a WAY bigger deal for Joker though. Inkling can get under fair 1 and rising bair pretty easily which are both really key joker moves
Plus, Leo's primary approach as Marth is spaced landing fairs and ftilts. Those aint gettin low profiled!
Armada has been going even with Leo's Joker in a lot of friendlies, so he probably made the comfort pick and chose a better matchup. Inkling seems like they get walled out by disjoints; despite the low profiling, Marth can place landing hitboxes close to the ground
I love Armada’s Inkling. His movement is so thoughtful.
Lucina and Joker are cool. But the stuff MkLeo does with Marth is really impressive.
every comments section on an armada set in ultimate even if he got 3-0d: "armada is sooooo good at adapting give it a year and he can be top 10"
Lmao kinda true
I mean do you think he hasn’t been improving? He kept up with Leo’s Marth pretty well, even if it’s not his Joker.
@@williamvazquez9467 don't forget leo tried going Marth vs glutony and was literally forced to go back to joker. Imo his Marth is not even half as good as his joker
He (mostly) steamrolled through squad strike without Joker and always using Marth... we’ve seen it take out other top players ranked much higher than Armada more easily than it defeated Armada... just saying
its true though. armada HAS been improving each time we see him
I bet leo was like aight I'm facing armada time to just practice my marth for fun
Armada has gotten much better. Tbh his biggest weakness that I see is that he plays like a Melee player still. Obviously, he has been playing it the longest and thus it's hard to "unlearn" those habits in a game from the same series. But it's nothing like how he was playing even a few months ago, and being able to keep up with Leo's gameplay is a huge feat itself. I can see him being a much bigger contender in Ultimate if he keeps this pace up.
Armada is pickin it up! Looking forward to seeing how good he can get.
Holy fuck Armada playing insane. So improved
Love the cobo extensions!
now this is a clash of two titans holy shit
One of the casters sounds like Papasmithy
Anyone know if Round Robin sets count for PGR?
I assume so.
Kyleish as they are still best of 5, I would imagine so. Although, I know melee doesnt weigh Summit heavily as other Majors due to it being a partially fan vote in event (Meaning you can't have a SUPER competitive roster all the time). I will say this Summit does look stacked
@@ethanmcroy Yeah, I think this ult summit counts as a high A tier towards PGR, pretty stacked lineup this time around.
Is this normal solos? What is round robin?
Armada should mix up his landing options. He does a few double jump panic options and MKLEO just moves under him and juggles him.
Barbazboub what are you talking about? Mix up landings is all I said.
That second game dude! Fuck I wish Armada was able to get the third stock
Armada is bringing that clutch.
I know he likes Marth, but man, the amount of times he would have killed with Lucina makes me wonder if it’s really worth it
And what about those times when he killed at like 57% because he landed a side B?
Works both ways man
@@Fruitman1997 Yeah, but those cases are so rare and don't even come close to balancing things out. During the entire set, MKLeo got...
-2 sub 100% kills (after hit cause that's how the game calculates knockback). One was at 70% and genuinely would've killed sooner than Lucina; and the other Lucina would still gotten the kill and it was barely sub 100%.
-there was one other kill he got that was sooner than what Lucina could get and it at 111%.
-5 of the kills were at regular %s that Lucina would've also gotten the kill.
-3 kills at 180%+
-8 times that an attack didn't kill cause it wasn't tipped in which Lucina would've gotten the kill. Those 3 180%+ kill mentioned prior, 2 were because we could seal the kill cause the tips didn't land.
Instead of focusing on the literal one kill that was stupid early, look at the kill %s and missed kill opportunities as a whole.
@@mrkisukes I agree with you but asides from the killing part, I think the combo potential of Marth is very underestimated. You could say that some of the combos that he managed to get in this set, wouldn't have worked with Lucina and by default there would have been less ledge trap opportunities which are deadly with Marth
yeah i also liked his Lucina more than his Marth. With Marth he is playing so passive and instead of forcing the opponent to take bad choices with aggression and conering, he just capitalize bad approches.
You can see it numerous times how he gave up stage control and punished instead Armadas approach. I don´t think this playstyle is more effective against pgr top 10 players
Honestly the best example of why he’s playing Marth is 9:17-9:21 that stuff just isn’t really possible with Lucina, even if you can get a similar string it won’t add up to those numbers
Who won summit last time??
MKLeo
@@lordoshman6258 thanks
It was in March......this game hasn’t been out a year yet......
@@biffyguybiffy6292 lol my bad I meant LAST TIME
Last year 😂
Mkleo taking a hand off his controller @13:54, and its not even to push up his glasses, but to...think? What?!
No disrespect to armada but I can’t believe that armada was a better choice to invite than cosmos
Why doesn't Armada go for more dair spikes?
Duke inconsistent hitbox
Duke it gives up stage control for a slight chance of killing
it also gives up stage position, inkling is much better ledge trapping and even going for two frames with dtilt
Armada played out of his mind! Kudos to Leo keeping Marth all the way through though, he would've probably destroyed him with Joker.
Salem fd up by disrespecting Armada
yeah can't wait for the rematch
I start watching the video and includes my favorite character in the beginning when he was playing as kind of like oh he's like good but not great second match he pops off I'm like oh Armada I underestimated you
What is the point of delaying the final hit of dancing blade with Marth?
Clayborne Chavers to get the tipper
@@ElusiveTactician thanks bro, I realized after I made this comment I was like "duh"
Clayborne Chavers haha yeah np
Wait ... What is a round robin?
everyone plays each other, and the players with the most wins advance
That means that in the pool round everybody plays against everybody and the number of wins determines if you make it into bracket or not
@@victortan25 Seconded, everyone is in the bracket.
Armada driving on E lol
Armada's Ink meter makes me sad.
His A game is on ledge trapping and most of his conversions and damage was off of those. It was worth the management
I think I saw like 1 combo this entire game match...lmao
Armada might just fuck around and take a few tournaments.
That last dancing blade was stupid.
stupidly good
MARTHA
No estaba retired armada? O algo así? O sólo de Melee? Xd
Yeah, Only melee
@@dsyy90210oh, i see, ty
If people took the time to learn how to space like a God and get like 10 Tippers in a row Marth is to tier
The thing that I notice is Melee players can take stocks off ultimate players but these boys would get 4 stocked in Melee.
17:00
Armada is so good 🤯
At 2:40 it sounds like when you kill wolf.
LETS GO ARMADA
Inkling should he demolishing this Marth, but mkleo is amazing
Mkleo got a wig on 1:03
What's the difference between round robin and singles?
Round robin - Everyone plays everyone, in the style of a league.
Like GetBn said, round robin everyone plays everyone, it's usually done when there is a very low amount of entrants. Most of the time, round robins are used to determine the winner of the tournament. But in this case, it is being used to determine the seeding for singles on sunday. Those with a winning round robin record will be put on winners side and those with a losing round robin record will be placed on the losers side.
@@Nico-ur2po single are saturday & sunday.
@@firefatesgaming1855 so these round Robin's aren't the actual tournament? Thank God I didn't want armada out yet. Dude gained xp fast.
Armada jumps at ledge so often
Ayee Armada got better!
Armada is getting good fast tho dam
Sakurai did Marth dirty in Ultimate, tips were poorly design (literally, his attacks have the tipper hit placed at the sword differently), and his damage game got massively worse with the removal of jab setups and DB dealing less damage, being slower in startup (making it worse as a punish tool now that landing lag is much lower) and somehow being less consistent that it was in Sm4sh.
After today people gotta think of Armada as a real threat. Took some of the best players to the brink today
Now I'd love to see mkleo take armada to a last stock situation in melee lmao
@Diego Cifuentes Shhhh let's forget Smash Masters for a sec Shhhh
Armada still has trouble letting peeps ledge trap him
In melee the ledge is almost a safe place due to the fact there's so many options to get up whereas in ultimate due to there being no ledgedash, invincibility reset and a general lack of way to get off the edge quickly it'll probably be very hard to adjust to the way the ledge is played after having those options for so long.
Also Leo’s known for his excellent ledgetrapping
Armada with the vegeta hairline
Yeee mkleo marth
lets go armadaaaa
Is not inconsistent. It’s consistent. The problem is that you are not good to play Marth 💁🏻♂️
That's strange because he win, and won vs nairo, glutony and zarkray with marth
Yeah, MKLeo, best player in the world, not good enough to play Marth.
@@idon896 he's talking about the commentators you dufus
I'd people took the time to play Marth and space then he be low top tier
Reminder that you can’t DI db
And Leo managed to win again doing the good old UNGA BUNGA... Better luck next time, Armada
god when mkleo starts actually trying its a completely different game
First ink main here
Damn armada is losing his hair
Look at mew2king
No we don't respect him as Joker. Or at least I don't for the character is broken/unfair overall. He's said this himself until told to speak himself up by HBox on Hot Jauns which normally would be nice advice but idk if HBox knows how ridiculous the character can be. It's not overly absurd but it's enough and I respect his choice to play other characters and still be very good. I just wish he could switch his main and still retain his #1 spot.
EE fresh
Whats Round Robin?
You have 4 people in a pool and basically its sorted out so they each play against each other at least once
@@thegamingguy1 Do round robin sets count for PGR? Do you know?
@@ky4you No, they just decide who is in winners and losers for main stage
I have no idea but i dont see why not, its the same thing as a normal bracket pools match round robin is just the format.
Juna, no.
This game is fun to watch but wtf...way too easy to recover on stage.
Almost entirely due to the two of these character’s recoveries being among the best
Marth’s is frame one, invincible, easily stage spikes. Inkling’s is crazy long, safest two frame animation, and gimps on accident all the time.
Go watch the esam light game lol
@@pultofcat8615 Even with other characters, I see them get ko'd after recovering around 6-12 time each. In 64 and Melee, try about half or less. The intense last hit moments and waiting to see if Leo loses or not are what I watch for, not a recovery contest. Maybe SmashCon could start one for each game.
Oh of course, if you’re comparing to other games. There’s a reason melee runs with 4 stocks and still has shorter games lol. Disregarding things in melee like shine spikes killing at 30, ledge hogging would do that to ultimate too. It’s somewhat offset by meteor canceling though
Different strokes. I no longer enjoy melee edgegaurds. Feels too simple
@@pultofcat8615 Yeah I get that. On the bright side only 3 moves can spike like that in Melee. In 64 it's pretty absurd how dead you are if you're being edgeguarded lol. Brawl had a funny mix where recoveries were better than Melee overall but the ledge was still limited to 1 grabber. I'm just a fan of volatile recoveries I guess. But not 64's style. Kirby dair Kirby dair Kirby dair.
mkleo got bodied at rps
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Damn, the MU almost impossible!
Poor Marth :'(
Fucking yuck at these melee players taking up summit slots