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  • @ricardoludwig4787
    @ricardoludwig4787 5 років тому +299

    Armada still has a little bit of hesitation in his play, but holy hell is he terrifying when he actually starts flowing

    • @DekkarJr
      @DekkarJr 5 років тому +13

      He's my favorite player in this entire tournament I think. He's clearly very intelligent and cerebral, he just hasn't quite made teh transition from Melee to Ultimate yet so there a piece or two missing, but man, I bet in a few months he could easily be taking top spots in tournaments. All the fundamental skills and stuff are there, now he just needs more time with the game to get teh fine tuning process going more.

  • @ShallBePurified
    @ShallBePurified 5 років тому +219

    I love when Marth lands his tippers. That sound is so satisfying.

    • @TheDriver458
      @TheDriver458 5 років тому +25

      The sound FX team in this game really deserve a raise imo

    • @mandalorianhunter1
      @mandalorianhunter1 5 років тому +6

      It's just Ike's, they took away his tipper sounds from Melee.

    • @waterboiledpizza
      @waterboiledpizza 5 років тому +1

      It gets bigger when I pivot

    • @TheDriver458
      @TheDriver458 5 років тому +3

      Zero_OR 5 whatever, they still sound juicy af

    • @mandalorianhunter1
      @mandalorianhunter1 5 років тому +2

      @@TheDriver458 they don't sound unique anymore and it saddens me.

  • @shoegazed_400
    @shoegazed_400 5 років тому +220

    For real though Armada is getting sooooo good. I know he grinds regularly, but considering how much competitive Ultimate experience he has, this is so impressive. To play so well against the best player in the world compared to how he was losing in pools at tournaments just a few months ago. Amazing come up. Give it another 6 months, he'll be placing much higher and outperforming Cosmos(No hate). But I have to be fair here, he does need better Ink management, and he was giving Leo way too much respect off stage considering Marth's predictable recovery. His timing for ledge guarding was also a little off, but I'm sure he'll work to tighten that all up.

    • @monkey2698
      @monkey2698 5 років тому +1

      Well said

    • @GoatOmega
      @GoatOmega 5 років тому +1

      I believe armada is improving and will be a very good competitive pro. Now I’m disappointed I wanted to see Leo’s Joker. That would have been the true measuring stick.

    • @shoegazed_400
      @shoegazed_400 5 років тому +2

      @@GoatOmega Armada was streaming gameplay with him all night. The highlights are on his channel👌🏻

    • @thelordoftheweebs9501
      @thelordoftheweebs9501 5 років тому +1

      I don't think it'll take 6 months. Unless he decided not to attend any tournaments until 6 months. But armada mention it took him a year or so to become the GOAT he was in melee. So seeing his growth here definitely is a strong indication of what he can become in the future for ultimate.

    • @jcmm99
      @jcmm99 5 років тому +8

      I don't see him outplacing cosmos

  • @sharsasuke01
    @sharsasuke01 5 років тому +292

    So close! Armada could have literally won any of those games he lost.

    • @rebekahmackenzie
      @rebekahmackenzie 5 років тому +23

      But Armada didn't because he couldn't. Don't sleep on Leo, he has been the world's best Ultimate player since nearly the beginning and for good reason. He won using Marth, his secondary, who has been nerfed quite a bit in Ultimate. If Leo was using Joker Amada probably would have gotten 3-0d.

    • @alexyanez8033
      @alexyanez8033 5 років тому +5

      Lol marth is so bad and leo would have destroyed armada on stream

    • @El_Andru
      @El_Andru 5 років тому +6

      Mhmmm nah. Leo was using only 50% of his power

    • @wlt3585
      @wlt3585 5 років тому +38

      @@rebekahmackenzie What does his Joker have to do with those first 2 games? They were literally last stock last hit. Stop downplaying on Armada, literally no one is sleeping on MKLeo. Hes considered the best for a reason

    • @wlt3585
      @wlt3585 5 років тому +7

      @@alexyanez8033 Marth is amazing, the hell you mean?

  • @WhiteDoorProduction1
    @WhiteDoorProduction1 5 років тому +84

    Nothing but respect for armada that’s impressive as hell

  • @thelordoftheweebs9501
    @thelordoftheweebs9501 5 років тому +47

    I wonder what kind of monster armada will be the next few days. When he streamed last time he was keeping up with leo. Like dude. Leo was the key for armada's growth and Adam being the legend he is adapted so well.

  • @anonwalkerr
    @anonwalkerr 5 років тому +184

    When I saw how long the set was 😳

    • @anonwalkerr
      @anonwalkerr 5 років тому +10

      I didn’t think armada was that nice

    • @kingintox5743
      @kingintox5743 5 років тому +50

      Ayoade Armada was actually going pretty back and forth with Leo’s Marth and Joker on stream, with a bit in Leo’s favour obviously. Armadas definitely getting way better :)

    • @anonwalkerr
      @anonwalkerr 5 років тому +8

      KingIntox yeah I was just watching that video, he’s nuts

    • @BaggerFood101
      @BaggerFood101 5 років тому +1

      When I saw the time I was like so I’m guessing he didn’t use joker

    • @hibernate44
      @hibernate44 5 років тому

      KingIntox Leo is known for sandbagging during friendlies

  • @Pslamist
    @Pslamist 5 років тому +113

    I've been psyched for the return of MkLeo's Marth, but it's kinda hard to cheer for it here.

    • @fabianrangel0422
      @fabianrangel0422 5 років тому +2

      Waiiiit aren’t you from Ikechi’s discord?

    • @saiko2917
      @saiko2917 5 років тому +1

      Know what you feel

    • @chapa_is_the_best1986
      @chapa_is_the_best1986 5 років тому +1

      P

    • @xNulg
      @xNulg 5 років тому +2

      Why?

    • @Pslamist
      @Pslamist 5 років тому +9

      @@xNulgIt's just because I'll typically cheer for the underdog...and I want that to be in MKLeo's Marth, but in this situation, it's Armada. I'm also a huge fan of both players, for all the games they've played.

  • @Bacchus325
    @Bacchus325 5 років тому +14

    MK Leo's spacing is immaculate the man is pixel perfect. He's always getting tippers and he's always as safe as possible when throwing out a move

  • @nftbot4906
    @nftbot4906 5 років тому +35

    Armada has improved tremendously.

  • @ados1280
    @ados1280 5 років тому +97

    Marth is a million times more entertaining than Lucina.

    • @TheDriver458
      @TheDriver458 5 років тому +16

      Ados his tippers just add so much more to think about during a game

    • @sockman5030
      @sockman5030 5 років тому +2

      lol true but i keep thinking back to that protobanham v light match

  • @pastykake897
    @pastykake897 5 років тому +12

    6:31 It looks like Marth's sword is still covered in Inkling's ink. Haha

  • @sharsasuke01
    @sharsasuke01 5 років тому +121

    Is that Android's brudder?

  • @donovandalton2006
    @donovandalton2006 5 років тому +22

    Armada just gets better & better everytime I see him

  • @mattgamer1240
    @mattgamer1240 5 років тому +40

    He may of lost but dang it was close armada looking clean!

    • @Chinpou_
      @Chinpou_ 5 років тому +6

      May have

    • @alephbunchofnumbers
      @alephbunchofnumbers 5 років тому +8

      @@Chinpou_ it's getting worse and worse... first it was 'would of', now 'may of'.. what's next?
      'Excuse me, do you "of" the time?'
      'Sorry I don't "of" any change'
      I am straight up not of-ing a good time with this trend

    • @Htiy
      @Htiy 5 років тому

      Aleph Bot 😂😂 the last sentence

  • @fupalover
    @fupalover 4 роки тому +2

    Melee goat vs Ultimate goat. You love to see it.

  • @ReconNarwhal
    @ReconNarwhal 5 років тому +7

    Armada’s comeback factor is absurdly high

  • @MrJestrada2
    @MrJestrada2 5 років тому +30

    Is MKLeo confirming Viewtiful Joe with his pose?
    My hopes say yes

    • @RedlineRevenant
      @RedlineRevenant 5 років тому +4

      He belongs in the roster.

    • @carlostv6
      @carlostv6 5 років тому +3

      Nope, is kpop reference

    • @MrOmega555
      @MrOmega555 5 років тому +2

      @@carlostv6 twice fancy?

    • @carlostv6
      @carlostv6 5 років тому +4

      @@MrOmega555 yeap

    • @Confluxi
      @Confluxi 5 років тому +3

      Who’s joe?

  • @TheUnicornslayer
    @TheUnicornslayer 5 років тому +11

    lmfao "Armada always driving on E"

  • @digify12
    @digify12 5 років тому +9

    EE really said "my careers older than you boy"

  • @belgrado7208
    @belgrado7208 5 років тому +10

    Imagine if Armada plays Peach in this game.

    • @sizzle9000
      @sizzle9000 5 років тому +4

      you might as well imagine him playing roy koopa because she's undergone such a dramatic transformation from melee to ultimate that she's practically a different character now

    • @vertsang5424
      @vertsang5424 5 років тому +1

      he never will, he find it boring to play the same characters in different games. he never considered peach or fox or any characters he played extensively in melee for ultimate but mewtwo.
      part of why he is still playing ultimate is inkling feel fresh

  • @RielXeno
    @RielXeno 5 років тому +2

    Im so happy to see marth make a comeback in smash. Thanks mkleo

  • @elite463
    @elite463 5 років тому +3

    Anyone else think a weakness of Inkling is that when they throw a bomb on ledge that if the opponent pick and option right when it explodes then it’s kind of hard to see what option they picked. Not an Inkling player tho

  • @DaChongster
    @DaChongster 5 років тому +1

    It's crazy how on the cusp Armada is in everything regarding ultimate. His comebacks, his talent, his adaptability is all so close to making him a top player. Really exciting stuff

    • @DekkarJr
      @DekkarJr 5 років тому +2

      I give him a month or 2 of good polish and he will be contending top spots in tournaments.

    • @DaChongster
      @DaChongster 5 років тому +1

      @@DekkarJr sure seems like it

  • @samuelvibritannia4831
    @samuelvibritannia4831 5 років тому +1

    Great set! Impressive showing from Armada, and Leo with the top tier skill as always!

  • @helloworld2899
    @helloworld2899 5 років тому +6

    Watching these 2 play neutral is beautiful

  • @botanicalabe
    @botanicalabe 5 років тому +8

    The only reason Armada isn’t doing better is because he came from Melee and instead of Smash 4.

    • @botanicalabe
      @botanicalabe 5 років тому +2

      Diego Cifuentes not really but okay

    • @vertsang5424
      @vertsang5424 5 років тому +1

      no excuses. you coud also say he stopped playing competitively for a few months or complain about the swedish scene etc...but armada can surpass such odds

  • @croyfox
    @croyfox 5 років тому +7

    "GOOD BYE "at the end Lool

  • @the34zydc.64
    @the34zydc.64 5 років тому +6

    When Armada lands a crazy comeback, us Melee players just say "Yup, that's Armada".

  • @tylerpearson9754
    @tylerpearson9754 4 роки тому

    Ive been playing marth since melee, right? And Im no professional marth player or anything crazy like that - but MAN - for a while it was hard to keep him as my main. Its real good to see him getting some love in the top tiers :) even if its just for labbing or whatever, I love seeing my boy do well

  • @timtaylor1999
    @timtaylor1999 5 років тому +2

    When mk Leo sees everything the opponent does in the battle, he wakes up!

  • @mandalorianhunter1
    @mandalorianhunter1 5 років тому +2

    I wonder if Armada experiences PTSD from facing Marth?

  • @amonakuma615
    @amonakuma615 5 років тому +6

    Armada's Inklink looking clean 👌

  • @TheThugnificant
    @TheThugnificant 5 років тому +1

    The Hero King back in top form.

  • @danielkim1349
    @danielkim1349 5 років тому

    Saw no joker in the thumbnail, knew the result before even clicking on the video

  • @theimpersonator7086
    @theimpersonator7086 5 років тому +13

    Nice to see the Prince of Smash finally go head to head with the Swedish Sniper.
    Interesting take though, since Leo believes Marth does better against Inkling than Joker. From a theory craft perspective that matchup would seem like hell for Marth because low profiling. However, theory craft is certainly not everything

    • @williamw8590
      @williamw8590 5 років тому +5

      low profilings a WAY bigger deal for Joker though. Inkling can get under fair 1 and rising bair pretty easily which are both really key joker moves

    • @kylebivens3681
      @kylebivens3681 5 років тому +6

      Plus, Leo's primary approach as Marth is spaced landing fairs and ftilts. Those aint gettin low profiled!

    • @bmsoundtrack
      @bmsoundtrack 5 років тому

      Armada has been going even with Leo's Joker in a lot of friendlies, so he probably made the comfort pick and chose a better matchup. Inkling seems like they get walled out by disjoints; despite the low profiling, Marth can place landing hitboxes close to the ground

  • @GGFlypower
    @GGFlypower 4 роки тому

    I love Armada’s Inkling. His movement is so thoughtful.

  • @ManateeMentality
    @ManateeMentality 5 років тому

    Lucina and Joker are cool. But the stuff MkLeo does with Marth is really impressive.

  • @sizzle9000
    @sizzle9000 5 років тому +12

    every comments section on an armada set in ultimate even if he got 3-0d: "armada is sooooo good at adapting give it a year and he can be top 10"

    • @jinyboi
      @jinyboi 5 років тому

      Lmao kinda true

    • @williamvazquez9467
      @williamvazquez9467 5 років тому +5

      I mean do you think he hasn’t been improving? He kept up with Leo’s Marth pretty well, even if it’s not his Joker.

    • @jinyboi
      @jinyboi 5 років тому

      @@williamvazquez9467 don't forget leo tried going Marth vs glutony and was literally forced to go back to joker. Imo his Marth is not even half as good as his joker

    • @JoeSmith-db4rq
      @JoeSmith-db4rq 5 років тому

      He (mostly) steamrolled through squad strike without Joker and always using Marth... we’ve seen it take out other top players ranked much higher than Armada more easily than it defeated Armada... just saying

    • @cattya4406
      @cattya4406 5 років тому

      its true though. armada HAS been improving each time we see him

  • @alexyanez8033
    @alexyanez8033 5 років тому +3

    I bet leo was like aight I'm facing armada time to just practice my marth for fun

  • @glitchyglitchy3925
    @glitchyglitchy3925 5 років тому

    Armada has gotten much better. Tbh his biggest weakness that I see is that he plays like a Melee player still. Obviously, he has been playing it the longest and thus it's hard to "unlearn" those habits in a game from the same series. But it's nothing like how he was playing even a few months ago, and being able to keep up with Leo's gameplay is a huge feat itself. I can see him being a much bigger contender in Ultimate if he keeps this pace up.

  • @dustinseth1
    @dustinseth1 5 років тому

    Armada is pickin it up! Looking forward to seeing how good he can get.

  • @ArchesBro
    @ArchesBro 5 років тому

    Holy fuck Armada playing insane. So improved

  • @ES-ob4lp
    @ES-ob4lp 5 років тому

    Love the cobo extensions!

  • @benvanderwell7700
    @benvanderwell7700 3 роки тому

    now this is a clash of two titans holy shit

  • @aircatcher6891
    @aircatcher6891 5 років тому +2

    One of the casters sounds like Papasmithy

  • @ky4you
    @ky4you 5 років тому +3

    Anyone know if Round Robin sets count for PGR?

    • @biffyguybiffy6292
      @biffyguybiffy6292 5 років тому +3

      I assume so.

    • @ethanmcroy
      @ethanmcroy 5 років тому +1

      Kyleish as they are still best of 5, I would imagine so. Although, I know melee doesnt weigh Summit heavily as other Majors due to it being a partially fan vote in event (Meaning you can't have a SUPER competitive roster all the time). I will say this Summit does look stacked

    • @ky4you
      @ky4you 5 років тому +1

      @@ethanmcroy Yeah, I think this ult summit counts as a high A tier towards PGR, pretty stacked lineup this time around.

  • @ChrisPC1
    @ChrisPC1 5 років тому +1

    Is this normal solos? What is round robin?

  • @VoltageCowboy
    @VoltageCowboy 5 років тому

    Armada should mix up his landing options. He does a few double jump panic options and MKLEO just moves under him and juggles him.

    • @VoltageCowboy
      @VoltageCowboy 5 років тому

      Barbazboub what are you talking about? Mix up landings is all I said.

  • @xPandaaaah
    @xPandaaaah 5 років тому

    That second game dude! Fuck I wish Armada was able to get the third stock

  • @jakfosarn9257
    @jakfosarn9257 5 років тому +5

    Armada is bringing that clutch.

  • @H.R.A.D.
    @H.R.A.D. 5 років тому +9

    I know he likes Marth, but man, the amount of times he would have killed with Lucina makes me wonder if it’s really worth it

    • @Fruitman1997
      @Fruitman1997 5 років тому +16

      And what about those times when he killed at like 57% because he landed a side B?
      Works both ways man

    • @mrkisukes
      @mrkisukes 5 років тому +6

      @@Fruitman1997 Yeah, but those cases are so rare and don't even come close to balancing things out. During the entire set, MKLeo got...
      -2 sub 100% kills (after hit cause that's how the game calculates knockback). One was at 70% and genuinely would've killed sooner than Lucina; and the other Lucina would still gotten the kill and it was barely sub 100%.
      -there was one other kill he got that was sooner than what Lucina could get and it at 111%.
      -5 of the kills were at regular %s that Lucina would've also gotten the kill.
      -3 kills at 180%+
      -8 times that an attack didn't kill cause it wasn't tipped in which Lucina would've gotten the kill. Those 3 180%+ kill mentioned prior, 2 were because we could seal the kill cause the tips didn't land.
      Instead of focusing on the literal one kill that was stupid early, look at the kill %s and missed kill opportunities as a whole.

    • @Flay10
      @Flay10 5 років тому +5

      @@mrkisukes I agree with you but asides from the killing part, I think the combo potential of Marth is very underestimated. You could say that some of the combos that he managed to get in this set, wouldn't have worked with Lucina and by default there would have been less ledge trap opportunities which are deadly with Marth

    • @danielsnoopeh1807
      @danielsnoopeh1807 5 років тому

      yeah i also liked his Lucina more than his Marth. With Marth he is playing so passive and instead of forcing the opponent to take bad choices with aggression and conering, he just capitalize bad approches.
      You can see it numerous times how he gave up stage control and punished instead Armadas approach. I don´t think this playstyle is more effective against pgr top 10 players

    • @CartwheelJoe
      @CartwheelJoe 5 років тому +1

      Honestly the best example of why he’s playing Marth is 9:17-9:21 that stuff just isn’t really possible with Lucina, even if you can get a similar string it won’t add up to those numbers

  • @crazychicken5521
    @crazychicken5521 5 років тому +5

    Who won summit last time??

  • @jasonli1787
    @jasonli1787 5 років тому

    Mkleo taking a hand off his controller @13:54, and its not even to push up his glasses, but to...think? What?!

  • @leffenfanaccount4257
    @leffenfanaccount4257 3 роки тому +1

    No disrespect to armada but I can’t believe that armada was a better choice to invite than cosmos

  • @sharsasuke01
    @sharsasuke01 5 років тому +3

    Why doesn't Armada go for more dair spikes?

    • @solomonmiddleton8436
      @solomonmiddleton8436 5 років тому +1

      Duke inconsistent hitbox

    • @nathnate123
      @nathnate123 5 років тому +5

      Duke it gives up stage control for a slight chance of killing

    • @e4Nf3Bc4b4
      @e4Nf3Bc4b4 5 років тому +3

      it also gives up stage position, inkling is much better ledge trapping and even going for two frames with dtilt

  • @dvaccaro96
    @dvaccaro96 5 років тому

    Armada played out of his mind! Kudos to Leo keeping Marth all the way through though, he would've probably destroyed him with Joker.

  • @monkey2698
    @monkey2698 5 років тому +14

    Salem fd up by disrespecting Armada

    • @mateobea7801
      @mateobea7801 5 років тому

      yeah can't wait for the rematch

  • @heartlessshadow9217
    @heartlessshadow9217 4 роки тому

    I start watching the video and includes my favorite character in the beginning when he was playing as kind of like oh he's like good but not great second match he pops off I'm like oh Armada I underestimated you

  • @Claybornechavers
    @Claybornechavers 5 років тому

    What is the point of delaying the final hit of dancing blade with Marth?

    • @ElusiveTactician
      @ElusiveTactician 4 роки тому +1

      Clayborne Chavers to get the tipper

    • @Claybornechavers
      @Claybornechavers 4 роки тому +1

      @@ElusiveTactician thanks bro, I realized after I made this comment I was like "duh"

    • @ElusiveTactician
      @ElusiveTactician 4 роки тому

      Clayborne Chavers haha yeah np

  • @Gaben420
    @Gaben420 5 років тому +3

    Wait ... What is a round robin?

    • @Jramir118
      @Jramir118 5 років тому +8

      everyone plays each other, and the players with the most wins advance

    • @victortan25
      @victortan25 5 років тому +5

      That means that in the pool round everybody plays against everybody and the number of wins determines if you make it into bracket or not

    • @bmsoundtrack
      @bmsoundtrack 5 років тому +1

      @@victortan25 Seconded, everyone is in the bracket.

  • @irium_pls
    @irium_pls 5 років тому +4

    Armada driving on E lol

  • @SlayerJuan
    @SlayerJuan 5 років тому +2

    Armada's Ink meter makes me sad.

    • @Athorment
      @Athorment 5 років тому +1

      His A game is on ledge trapping and most of his conversions and damage was off of those. It was worth the management

  • @hamiltonnewhart3053
    @hamiltonnewhart3053 4 роки тому

    I think I saw like 1 combo this entire game match...lmao

  • @julioarcaiko
    @julioarcaiko 5 років тому

    Armada might just fuck around and take a few tournaments.

  • @Drumz_of_Liberation
    @Drumz_of_Liberation 5 років тому +1

    That last dancing blade was stupid.

  • @isaacmorenodominguez239
    @isaacmorenodominguez239 5 років тому +3

    MARTHA

  • @Andrzejkl94
    @Andrzejkl94 5 років тому

    No estaba retired armada? O algo así? O sólo de Melee? Xd

    • @dsyy90210
      @dsyy90210 5 років тому +3

      Yeah, Only melee

    • @Andrzejkl94
      @Andrzejkl94 5 років тому +1

      @@dsyy90210oh, i see, ty

  • @michaeljames6737
    @michaeljames6737 4 роки тому

    If people took the time to learn how to space like a God and get like 10 Tippers in a row Marth is to tier

  • @codymeridith9526
    @codymeridith9526 4 роки тому

    The thing that I notice is Melee players can take stocks off ultimate players but these boys would get 4 stocked in Melee.

  • @pierremlili4481
    @pierremlili4481 4 роки тому +1

    Armada is so good 🤯

  • @timtaylor1999
    @timtaylor1999 5 років тому

    At 2:40 it sounds like when you kill wolf.

  • @attspace
    @attspace 5 років тому

    LETS GO ARMADA

  • @CharleswoodSpudzyofficial
    @CharleswoodSpudzyofficial 5 років тому

    Inkling should he demolishing this Marth, but mkleo is amazing

  • @pt4958
    @pt4958 5 років тому

    Mkleo got a wig on 1:03

  • @abreika
    @abreika 5 років тому +1

    What's the difference between round robin and singles?

    • @getbn6547
      @getbn6547 5 років тому +2

      Round robin - Everyone plays everyone, in the style of a league.

    • @Nico-ur2po
      @Nico-ur2po 5 років тому +1

      Like GetBn said, round robin everyone plays everyone, it's usually done when there is a very low amount of entrants. Most of the time, round robins are used to determine the winner of the tournament. But in this case, it is being used to determine the seeding for singles on sunday. Those with a winning round robin record will be put on winners side and those with a losing round robin record will be placed on the losers side.

    • @firefatesgaming1855
      @firefatesgaming1855 5 років тому

      @@Nico-ur2po single are saturday & sunday.

    • @thelordoftheweebs9501
      @thelordoftheweebs9501 5 років тому

      @@firefatesgaming1855 so these round Robin's aren't the actual tournament? Thank God I didn't want armada out yet. Dude gained xp fast.

  • @andrew3606
    @andrew3606 5 років тому

    Armada jumps at ledge so often

  • @jonnyuzumaki777
    @jonnyuzumaki777 5 років тому

    Ayee Armada got better!

  • @shrek3747
    @shrek3747 5 років тому

    Armada is getting good fast tho dam

  • @mrkisukes
    @mrkisukes 5 років тому +2

    Sakurai did Marth dirty in Ultimate, tips were poorly design (literally, his attacks have the tipper hit placed at the sword differently), and his damage game got massively worse with the removal of jab setups and DB dealing less damage, being slower in startup (making it worse as a punish tool now that landing lag is much lower) and somehow being less consistent that it was in Sm4sh.

  • @instrumentalist1294
    @instrumentalist1294 5 років тому

    After today people gotta think of Armada as a real threat. Took some of the best players to the brink today

  • @Leo98pm
    @Leo98pm 5 років тому +1

    Now I'd love to see mkleo take armada to a last stock situation in melee lmao

    • @PresTsukasa
      @PresTsukasa 5 років тому

      @Diego Cifuentes Shhhh let's forget Smash Masters for a sec Shhhh

  • @marksaenz3836
    @marksaenz3836 5 років тому

    Armada still has trouble letting peeps ledge trap him

    • @TheHurricane127
      @TheHurricane127 5 років тому +7

      In melee the ledge is almost a safe place due to the fact there's so many options to get up whereas in ultimate due to there being no ledgedash, invincibility reset and a general lack of way to get off the edge quickly it'll probably be very hard to adjust to the way the ledge is played after having those options for so long.

    • @nathan6280
      @nathan6280 5 років тому +7

      Also Leo’s known for his excellent ledgetrapping

  • @darkpikabuu8903
    @darkpikabuu8903 5 років тому

    Armada with the vegeta hairline

  • @Kilbiiii
    @Kilbiiii 5 років тому +1

    Yeee mkleo marth

  • @hugo-g5r
    @hugo-g5r 5 років тому

    lets go armadaaaa

  • @MrLasensacion
    @MrLasensacion 5 років тому +2

    Is not inconsistent. It’s consistent. The problem is that you are not good to play Marth 💁🏻‍♂️

    • @darkyu3229
      @darkyu3229 5 років тому

      That's strange because he win, and won vs nairo, glutony and zarkray with marth

    • @idon896
      @idon896 5 років тому +2

      Yeah, MKLeo, best player in the world, not good enough to play Marth.

    • @bmsoundtrack
      @bmsoundtrack 5 років тому

      @@idon896 he's talking about the commentators you dufus

    • @michaeljames6737
      @michaeljames6737 4 роки тому

      I'd people took the time to play Marth and space then he be low top tier

  • @tiny3360
    @tiny3360 5 років тому

    Reminder that you can’t DI db

  • @FaustoDeLunaOficial
    @FaustoDeLunaOficial 5 років тому

    And Leo managed to win again doing the good old UNGA BUNGA... Better luck next time, Armada

  • @nofatchxplzthx
    @nofatchxplzthx 5 років тому

    god when mkleo starts actually trying its a completely different game

  • @ezrihernandez2287
    @ezrihernandez2287 5 років тому

    First ink main here

  • @ClassicCult
    @ClassicCult 5 років тому

    Damn armada is losing his hair

  • @bireon878
    @bireon878 5 років тому

    No we don't respect him as Joker. Or at least I don't for the character is broken/unfair overall. He's said this himself until told to speak himself up by HBox on Hot Jauns which normally would be nice advice but idk if HBox knows how ridiculous the character can be. It's not overly absurd but it's enough and I respect his choice to play other characters and still be very good. I just wish he could switch his main and still retain his #1 spot.

  • @Marvin-zf1fi
    @Marvin-zf1fi 5 років тому

    EE fresh

  • @fupalover
    @fupalover 5 років тому

    Whats Round Robin?

    • @thegamingguy1
      @thegamingguy1 5 років тому +6

      You have 4 people in a pool and basically its sorted out so they each play against each other at least once

    • @ky4you
      @ky4you 5 років тому

      @@thegamingguy1 Do round robin sets count for PGR? Do you know?

    • @elzilcho222
      @elzilcho222 5 років тому

      @@ky4you No, they just decide who is in winners and losers for main stage

    • @thegamingguy1
      @thegamingguy1 5 років тому

      I have no idea but i dont see why not, its the same thing as a normal bracket pools match round robin is just the format.

    • @biffyguybiffy6292
      @biffyguybiffy6292 5 років тому +2

      Juna, no.

  • @Dunkiep8
    @Dunkiep8 5 років тому +3

    This game is fun to watch but wtf...way too easy to recover on stage.

    • @pultofcat8615
      @pultofcat8615 5 років тому +1

      Almost entirely due to the two of these character’s recoveries being among the best
      Marth’s is frame one, invincible, easily stage spikes. Inkling’s is crazy long, safest two frame animation, and gimps on accident all the time.
      Go watch the esam light game lol

    • @Dunkiep8
      @Dunkiep8 5 років тому

      @@pultofcat8615 Even with other characters, I see them get ko'd after recovering around 6-12 time each. In 64 and Melee, try about half or less. The intense last hit moments and waiting to see if Leo loses or not are what I watch for, not a recovery contest. Maybe SmashCon could start one for each game.

    • @pultofcat8615
      @pultofcat8615 5 років тому +1

      Oh of course, if you’re comparing to other games. There’s a reason melee runs with 4 stocks and still has shorter games lol. Disregarding things in melee like shine spikes killing at 30, ledge hogging would do that to ultimate too. It’s somewhat offset by meteor canceling though
      Different strokes. I no longer enjoy melee edgegaurds. Feels too simple

    • @Dunkiep8
      @Dunkiep8 5 років тому

      @@pultofcat8615 Yeah I get that. On the bright side only 3 moves can spike like that in Melee. In 64 it's pretty absurd how dead you are if you're being edgeguarded lol. Brawl had a funny mix where recoveries were better than Melee overall but the ledge was still limited to 1 grabber. I'm just a fan of volatile recoveries I guess. But not 64's style. Kirby dair Kirby dair Kirby dair.

  • @Hakusheri
    @Hakusheri 5 років тому

    mkleo got bodied at rps

  • @xiovannidonciano3682
    @xiovannidonciano3682 5 років тому

    303

  • @calemjewell2067
    @calemjewell2067 5 років тому +1

    Damn, the MU almost impossible!
    Poor Marth :'(

  • @ZakkZace
    @ZakkZace 5 років тому

    Fucking yuck at these melee players taking up summit slots