Why is skin colour considered a culture? I understand that in America segregation led to cultural divides, but unless you're raised in a specific place, skin colour is just... well melanin. I'm black and I'm from England, I don't act "black" I act Yorkshire.
Skin colour isn't a culture, they call it black culture because it was popularised and perpetuated by black americans. it's a simple system of classification i don't know where you're getting lost....
I agree with both of your comments. I get stereotyped within the confines of black culture because some people consider skin colour to affect my identity. I've legitimately been questioned with sincerity why I like Indie music more than Hip-Hop. I'm taking issue with the idea of black skin and black culture being synonymous.
Deborah A I put "black" in quotation as if to say other people believe you can act "black". Just listen to virtually any Chris Rock sketch and you'll get what I mean.
jhunt5578 That's because black culture and black skin was synonymous up until around 57 years ago (which historically speaking is like yesterday, I literally had a grand parent twice that age lol). And not even taking that in to account the overwhelming majority of different racial groups live with and interact with people that are predominantly of the same racial group so they pick up things that are similar like behavioral traits and artistic preferences. While stereotyping is wrong people perceive those that are different from the group as "outliers" so it's only natural for them to question why you don't conform. Like asking a woodpecker why it doesn't peck at bark like the rest of it's family when it spends all day trying to catch shinny shit with the magpies.
Seriously, in most countries I've been to people identify as the citizen of that country rather than a particular race. If you're born in Turkey, and your parents were born in Turkey, you're a Turk. You could be super dark or pasty white. Same goes for Iran, Greece, Italy, Spain, Great Britain. Arabs call themselves Arabs all over the world and they could be stemming from entirely different countries with widely different skin colors. This obsession with someone being black, white, Hispanic, or mixed race is very much an American thing IMO.
lacountess No it's not really. Other countries do it as well. When I went to Egypt a few years ago the first day I was there I got called a racial slur. I can't speak for other races. But black people worldwide get a lot of hate. So we are always aware. We don't have the luxury of being colour blind.
The King of Zamunda I wasn't saying other countries aren't racist. I was saying they aren't as obsessed with labeling their citizens with their race. I'm also not implying it's all roses and rainbows there. Most old world countries have tribal divisions, or religious segregation, like Shiite and Suuni in the Middle East, or Sikhs and Hindus in India.
Every single country you have mentioned - people identify as their own separate ethnic groups. stop talking out of your ass. try call a kurd a turk, he will kick your ass; try call a catalonian a spaniard... try call a scotsman english... try call an azeri in iran an iranian. before opening your mouth, do some research.
The King of Zamunda completely agreed on that, even in India where most ppl r brown, discriminate against blacks as most of them r students , but bec of sterotype they r drugs peddler, hatez to be live in a century where still racism exist
Still think it's weird Americans call themselves like african-american, american, native american and w/e. Over here we'd just call people like that: Dutch, Dutch or Dutch. Or in Germany: German, German or German.
The King of Zamunda Usually not. I mean, if you're asked to describe a person's looks or something then you would also describe their skin colour probably, but normally, skin colour just doesn't matter.
'Statistics Netherlands does not keep track of ethnicity or race.' (in Dutch known as the CBS) is a government agency. It's not found on a passport either nor have I ever had to fill in information about my racial background for a government agency (only ever for surveys I think, which are anonymous). Whilst not racial it is however recorded where you were born and where your parents were born (afaik). This doesn't say anything about race though. This does however indicate if you're autochtoon or allochtoon. Which they use to see how people with a non Dutch background adapt to the Dutch culture, norms and values.
I am from South America and we have no idea how to understand the American's way to segregate people by their color... we are so mixed is completely absurd to separate people between black and white, or calling yourself black because you have 1 drop of black blood, if you have a mixture of race you should be able to tribute both not only the black one, i.e.: Trevor Noah, Barack Obama, Drake, they have one white parent, sometimes that white parent has much more importance in their lives than the black parent and yet society as a whole doesn't allow them to tribute their white family as they should because they must define themselves as black or else they are insulting black community (wtf!?), crazy stupid thing, Slavery is the worst thing the USA got as a nation and these racial divisions are perverse, the more mixed the country becomes, the better for people to overcome this cultural madness... people should be able to acknowledge their heritage if you are mixed, all parts black and white or aboriginal... and by the way "Latinos" or "Hispanics" is not a race American Census, that's ignorant...
Yes, before 2010 was a race from 2010 the Census changed the concept, therefore you are correct but they are not included in the White race and because Hispanic and Latinos were a race in the Census still people get confused... "The 2010 US Census included changes designed to more clearly distinguish Hispanic ethnicity as not being a race. That included adding the sentence: "For this census, Hispanic origins are not races." Additionally, the Hispanic terms were modified from "Hispanic or Latino" to "Hispanic, Latino or Spanish origin". (wiki) Nevertheless, the correction, the segregation via ethnicity is incorrect, people from Latin American origin can be from many races and that makes them very difficult if not stupid to encapsulate in a group because is totally misleading.
yes you're right they're still often mistaken as a race and I sometimes make that mistake too. But I have a Latino (Colombian) friend who said to me that Latinos, Hispanics do feel they belong to the same culture and he's been to various South or Central American countries.
The reason why non-Americans are confused: Americans label by skin color, the rest of the world labels by country born in, or even parent's country, or does not label at all (this group also has Americans in it).
This isn’t true. Lots of other countries identify with race. Particularly if they’re a country of various races. Yes, they claim nationality but race is a factor too. Americans identify with nationality too. They’re very American centric but among themselves there are differences. I don’t know why people on UA-cam want to act like race is uniquely American. I can pull up peer reviewed academic journals on clear racial lines in South America, the Caribbean, parts of Western Europe like France or England. It’s interesting and disingenuous how people online want to act like your race has no impact outside of America. That’s a bunch of hogwash. Unless you’re homogenous nation. I’m not American but I don’t see all their race stuff as unique to them. It’s in many other places. Sometimes other areas are worse than America.
I'm in Australia, and it confuses me over the race thing. "African-American" We don't have names for Australians such as "african-australians" "asian-Australian". If you're born in Australia, or became a citizen, you're Australian. Unless you're a island torres, or aboringinal/indigenous, even then there's no question asking if you're white oborigine or black. I was confused when i spoke to an American lady and she put a huge enthesist about being Asian, and to me... I saw no importance in this declaration, she's American.
@FuzzyBearies What a bold claim. It amazes me how somebody can be so oblivious to their own countries policy. The Apex gang that is constantly reported on the news as "African immigrants". Even though pretty every one of those kids were born in Australia. There has been a debate on deporting them. Again, deporting people to places they've never been to, simply because that's the origin of their parents. You're not confused, you're biased, hypocritical and, unaware of your own policy.
According to wikipedia. Apex, founded around year 2000, although lacking any leadership or structure, is a group that has been loosely termed a street gang in Melbourne, Australia. The founding members were part of South Sudanese origin. The South Sudanese community in Victoria are a refugee community fleeing from the civil war in their homeland, their community of about 20,000 arrived mostly between 2003-2006. The community has faced difficulties in adjusting to Australia, including facing casual racism and the difficulties faced in adjusting to a new Community. I dont see anything wrong calling them immigrants.
@@johnjohn-lk3je Of course you don't. Because you are a hypocrite. Most the Apex "gang" members are teenagers born and raised in the Australia. The group mostly consists of young teens. How is it that you live in Australia and don't know this?
DablMON It really doesn't matter...it is these comedic types, individuals & associations who "keep it alive" as it were... Race is a social construct, a folk taxonomy, a specifying of groups of peoples according to a set characteristics, a way of differentiating one or another, then applying a stereotype. Myself as you see in my picture here, I am a "white male" as set by this thinking, my wife is "Hispanic", by the same logic, our 19 Year-old son is 50/50 in this regard. He has asked "what am I?" We have gone round & round with this obsession, this debate with race...our conclusion?, it just doesn't matter really....we have told him he's just a human being really...I guess he will be checking off the "OTHER", the little box containing all those pigeon holes, on the inevitable piece of paper, others who still will be obsessed with "race".
There is a contradiction in that vikings always cared a lot about their exceptionally good looks, while the ninja want to be invisible (and blend into the crowd). But the commonality between the two is pirates.
This is the kind of weird shit you get when you follow the one-drop rule. Like, still, whenever I see rachel dolezal I can't understand how anyone could have thought she was black. All I can see is a white woman with a perm.
People who are ethnically-mixed can be hard to identify as belonging to a specific ethnic group. I am 50% white, the rest is a mix of African, Chinese, Native South-American, Jewish. I´m 25% African. In looks Rachel Dolezal and me could be sisters. Difference: I don´t do perm, my curls are natural :-)
Exactly. Fortunately most of the world isn't the US and doesn't cling onto an artificial construct like ethnicity so hard. Here in the Netherlands, you might occassionally hear people use the Dutch words for "white" and "black" in informal speech, but even then it's frowned upon, and if those terms would be used by a popular late night host or anybody of equal social influence, it would be a massive scandal.
In fact, biology shows that the differences between individuals in a race is larger than the statistically average differences between "races". There is literally _less_ biological support for race than there is for social gender. Yet, somehow people are now starting to become ok with trans people. Recognizing that transwomen are women, and transmen are men. All these arguments can be turned to trans people as well. Bring on an androgynous person and ask them if they ever feel tempted to claim they're the opposite sex, you're likely to get the same sort of reply. "No." Because their identity does not align with the other gender. They know who they are, and where their cultural gender roles lie. You cannot use that ambiguity to invalidate transpeople, by saying that just because someone who has passing privilege doesn't think of themselves as trans, that no one can be trans. And as to the white parents question, trans people get "well, were you born with a vagina/penis?" Even still today. And finally, "wtf? you can't just choose to be black, any more than black people can't stop being black." let me paraphrase: you can't just choose to be female, any more than women can stop being female. We ALREADY ACCEPT that people who are GENETICALLY IDENTIFIABLE as one sex can actually transition to being a member of the other sex, because our gender is a social performance, and interaction, not a biological feature of genetics or heritage. Transwomen are constantly walking onto the battlefield of sexual oppression and going "holy crap, this system is SO FREAKING RIGGED against women!" And "you can support them without claiming to be black," yes, just like transwomen could support female interests by being a feminist and not being a woman. Closing off the access for them to express themselves genuinely in order to insist that a barrier not be broken... I understand that this upsets many black people, Dolezal. But transwomen upset a lot of women, and are now super pissing off men, just by using the same bathroom. When all of your arguments have been used directly against another oppressed group that we've realized shouldn't be oppressed, you have to ask yourself if these are valid justifications, or if you're just throwing up the same old "I don't like change!" denialist arguments that todays newest bigots had been using against yesterday's oppressed people.
From a biological standpoint "race" is no less of a social construct than nationality... In so far as "human race" you're aware that well before we spoke of elven races, and dwarven races, an..d fairy races, etc. "state" means a sovereign body of government, and is not a subset of nation or country, it is in fact, just as equal as both of those terms. Yet, Americans, due largely in part, to how they have constructed their federal system use the term "state" exclusively to refer to the several states that are underneath the federal government, which is, itself actually a "state", and the reason why it's the "Department of State", not "Department of Nation" or "Department of Country".
I am Mexican, which means that I have ancestors indians (purepechas, nahuatls), spanish (sefardies, arabs and castilla?), and blacks. The first time I was asked about my race (In USA) I can not answer that....
Nearly whole Spain was under arab/berber islamic control for a few hundred years in the middle ages (Even the majority of the people was islamcized). There had been a long war then and the iberian peninsula was rechristianized. The war and the rechristianization is called the reconquista period. The muslims also wanted to go further and take France but they were defeated there by Karl Martell also known as "Karl the Hammer".
I think most Latinos/Hispanics tend to identify themselves by nationality and culture rather than race, they band together under a cultural umbrella with many similarities but still retain individuality from their own country's traditions and their upbringing - at least in general. I live in Canada, and am originally from Panama. I identify as Panamenian. I also identify as Latino/Hispanic. However my family has italian and spanish backgrounds so I look pretty white and most people only guess I am not Canadian due to my accent...which is also not an hispanic accent because of the languages I grew up listening to kind of mixed together giving me a rather odd accent (to the point even in my own country I would be asked multiple times where I was from). My point is that separating and trying to classify people by skin color as a "race" is oversimplistic and rather backwards. At this point we should start trying to move away from even labeling a race as such. We are all different and may share cultural similarities with other people of the same skin color, sure, but it is not a black and white matter. Even the terms mestizo and mulato and the like are slowly becoming obsolete with all the mixing we do.
tehnemox as you've probably already realized if you have kids in Canada they will hardly ever be asked anything about their origins. Only when someone in the group starts discussing how many Scots are in their family tree, for example, does it come up. In Canada, as long as you speak like the majority in that region, you can even say "I don't know" as an origin story. If your accent is different then you'll always be asked, for example, if you're raised in Newfoundland but live in any other province then get used to being asked.
its funny because I am white but wear a headscarf. I have LITERALLY had people ask me if I used to be white but now am muslim(???). Weird how when people look at each other they automatically have to clasify or label them, I mean can I not just be a person regardless?
that's odd, the Muslims I have met over the years didn't hate white people at all. Something must be wrong. I'm guessing that what is wrong is what you've been told about Muslims sofar.
It's bizarre that someone can "build their whole career on being black" [0:27]. If your career requires that you be a certain race then there's systemic racism in that line of work.
My former doctor is white, and she wears a Black Lives Matter wristband when she sees her patients. I, a mixed race Chinese and White girl, high fived her!
Please tell me trans-racial won't become a thing. Suddenly humanity is like an RPG with character cuztomization where you can change your race, face, sex, at any time.
Mashundae Pearman Not if you actually see her with her REAL hair and skin color before she gets spray tanned lol - she's literally wearing black face and leading the NAACP it's hilariously offensive
IMO people are being too hard on her. Her parents adopted like 4 black kids when she was a baby. So she grew up thinking she was black. And she went to Howard University a HBCU, She taught black history and has a masters degree in African Studies, she ran the NAACP chapter in her city, her ex-husband is black, she has black kids and now works as hair dresser doing black hair. You can say she has a mental problem - but her heart is in the right place - she actually thinks she's a black woman.
Johan Öhgren because 1) Trevor is mixed 2)Rachel has made herself look *mixed* The fact that everyone at the show and in the comment secrion still plays "one blood drop rule" game is just astonishing.
I've always found it funny that in the US you're either white, or black or asian or whatever. It's an either or with nothing in between. No one would call that woman black in Spain or South America. Maybe we'd call her "mulata" or "mestiza".
That's because Spaniards and Portuguese had a race classification based on ascendency that determined your worth and how much you could advance in society. So a mulata had it better than a black, but a castiza (mixture of spaniard and mulata) had it better than the mulata, and a criollo (son of spaniards born in the colonies) had it even better but even then worse than a spaniard. In USA, as well as one of your parents was black you were black. Two both horrible distinct modes of organizing discrimination.
Well I don't know about you, but I'm Arab first, then Palestinian, then brown. I really don't identify with brown. That is literally just a color, like if somebody asked for my skin color I would say brown. But when asked to identify myself, i always go Arab/Palestinian. Also too many people are brown for that to be a real category. Arabs, Latinos, Indians and many more. Well it's a category, obviously, but it really doesn't tell you much.
It's honestly pretty depressing how obsessed most Americans still are with race and biological heritage, though sadly not surprising. It's been less than 100 years since the country was segregated, after all, and these things take a long time.
I was very confused when I started my exchange year in the US, because I had to fill out a form that asked for my race. I literally don't know and I've never been asked that question before in my life. So that was an odd experience. Still don't get it
I can relate to this. I have been variously mistaken for an Iranian, an Egyptian, a Kyrgyz, a Turkmen, a German, and, for some inexplicable reason, a Spaniard. Kyrgyz is relatively close seeing as my family is Qipchak.
This is an honest question from an old white guy. What did she do wrong? She lived full time as a black woman -- with all its inherent dangers and prejudices. Where does embracing a culture -- identifying with it and living it -- stop and appropriation begin? For example, should the Maoris of New Zealand be pissed because every school kid -- no matter their ethnicity -- in New Zealand performs a haka before each competition? Has New Zealand embraced the Maori heritage and history of their country -- or appropriated it?
She hasn't always been "black" she grew up as a white girl from a middle class family and enjoyed full white privilege, until she decided to transition into 'blackness'. Only if black people had similar choices! 😂
"Are you indian?" "Nope, you know the country underneath it? Ya that small one people forget about? Yes the one with thousands of also brown people? Yes, srilanka. That one. Yup."
I had that same problem identifying the heritage of one of my high school teachers. She looked Indian/Pakistani but she had the deepest Glaswegian (Scottish) accent, deeper than even anyone in the class of white scottish kids. Turns out her ancestry was from Srilanka but it wasn't like she spoke the language or knew the flag or kept any of the cultural heritage. She was just simply Scottish in our eyes with an interesting appearance. And with a really long last name you couldn't spell lol.
Same problem. People always ask me if i'm indian and when i say : " no i'm sri lankan" there like "where is it ?" and i have to explain them that it's an island next to India and then they would say : "same thing" just because they don't know where it is situated.
Doležal is a Czech (central European) name, I'm Czech and she looks completely Czech to me - minus the hair :-) Honestly, the first time I laid eyes on her I thought "Why is the Czech nurse pretending to be black?" I don't know why I thought that. But she looks like someone I could meet at a doctor or in a town hall here in the Czech Republic.
Being from Europe don't get why this is such a large topic in the USA. If you want to get of racism, stop talking all the time about the difference of ethnicities. Also, I find it embarassing that "black" is always connected with rapping, strange names, and being loud, obnoxious, stupid, and cool. Please, isn't everyone fed up with the same jokes time and time again? 16% black in the USA and they can't shut up about it.
That is even more funnier, when you think, how stupid the classification of "races" in USA is. It is based on some XVIII-centuries theories about different races. Now scientists believe, that human race in the only race. "Caucasian race" is even funnier, as it its based on XVIII-centurie theory, which was proved to be wrong; and in America the majority of Europeoids are excluded from the concept! 60% of actual Caucasians are excluded, as they are Muslims! Latinos are excluded as well. The is so stupid. They are blaming woman for trying to leave one artificially created concept for another, literally.
The only true difference between people is based on ethnics and religion (sometimes, ethnics includes religion) and it can be changed by accepting religion or/and traditions of this very people.
Paraphrasing: a MtF trans person is a self-hating man, a gender traitor for males and a gender impostor for females, not accepted as a female, that is why such person is ridiculed, mocked and abused.
What if she identifies as a black person? I don't get the difference between that and identifying as a female when you were born a male. I am honestly trying to be open minded but struggling with this concept. Somebody please educate me on how one thing is ok while the other is a horrific deed.
Gender dysphoria exists, racial dysphoria doesn't. Simple. If there was such a thing, I'd be able to claim I'm a white person trapped in a black body. Obviously never going to happen. Only people with zero experience of white supremacy can be confused about the difference between a medical reality and white entitlement. Smh.
While in a US McDonalds, Southern State, a guy heard me speak and had to inform me he was English. I asked which part and he then said his ancestors came from there. I replied "my ancestors had migrated from England to Australia". Not what he was expecting.
Surname Doležal has Czech origin (whereas the Czech Republic has like 0.00015% of black population). But there is a great hint in the surname which is inherited like a DNA. The meaning is "a bit lazy" or be/pretend to be someone important ;)
marusak72 How is Czech Republic's black population relevant when it comes to her? If she was really mixed, she could just have white Czech relatives. The possibility of her black relatives being from Czech republic would be tiny af :D
It is not about race, but self proclaimed Native American blue eyed a bit albinish Raaffu Väinönpoika, pretending to be a Black foot chieftain would be also ridiculous. I can't say anything about her XX black DNA (if there is any). What I see is just Slavic somatotype lady, a chemical permanent wave and blue eyes. The only DNA we know is XY part inherited together with her family name. The roots in a country where before WWII was one (I mean literally ONE) black guy just makes it more obvious.
We in Germany are maybe a bit quick with cultural labels when it comes to skin-colour or religion, but we are nothing compared to what the US is pulling off, as it seems. I never heard a Turk say "you can't smoke Shisha, you're white", they'd most likely offer you the pipe. I mean, yes, there is Divisiveness and it's a problem, but we don't practice this cultural exclusivity that I feel like it only stirs segregation.
The word missing from your comment is "anymore". You (Germany not you personally obviously) don't do that anymore because the entire planet stopped you from doing it and that took a whole world war to get sorted. The US never had that happen to stop them so it still goes on.
I can't believe people denied this woman her right to identify as black. Intolerance is a growing problem in American - it isn't getting better, it's getting worse.
I m from ALGERIA We have black and white Algerians but we never devide them We even these past several years have a lot refugees from Mali and Niger but no discrimination or racism at all. What s wrong with you America
It is so weird to me that everyone is talking about 'race'. If I said that here in Germany, everybody would go nuts. Why is there such a strict classification, why does everybody have to fit into a category? Colour of skin or outer looks are just a way of describing people, it does not determine what their personality is like
@Vanadiumoxid 400+ years of enslavement of a visible minority does tend to warp a country's sense of reality - especially regarding the laughable concept of "race".
My mom is black and dad is white. Im white with an afro hair. I grew up in a black neighborhood some people might say is a guetto. And my friends call me cookie cream. And damn is hard. with my natural hair people thinks i bleached my skin. But im white with an amazing hair
I don't understand why people have to be "black" or "white". These concepts aren't meaningfully defined, and I don't see why we need them in the first place. I understand why people who suffer from prejudice would want to group together and fight that, and I understand why people are proud of their cultural background and want it to be a part of them, but none of that requires splitting people into two precise categories. What are you trying to achieve by answering the question "is this person black ?".
What if instead of cheating herself to college scholarships earmarked for inner-city black students like she did, she cheated herself to college scholarships earmarked for deaf students, would you still find the question "is this person deaf" irrelevant?
I LOVE you Trevor Noah. I am watching your clips from far far away, in S America, in the Amazon jungle where I now live for many reasons (many of them you touch upon daily.) yet I do do love the USA, where I was born (first generation of my family) & raised. My heart hurts from what I see going on in the country of my birth--YOU can bring a smile to my face & often make me laugh out loud--even about the things that make me sometimes want to cry. THANK YOU! Laughter IS the best medicine.
It is interesting to me that the same people who say you can be what ever gender you choose to be draw the line at you can't be what ever race you want to be. When she says that you cannot choose your race and if you are born white then you are white, then by that definition if you are born a woman then you are a woman? If gender is fluid why isn't race?
Because they are different...? Like others said, you can change gender but not race, not everything is fluid. And i don.t think it's politically incorrect to think and say that. Is it that bad to 'not be free'? Because we are really not.
-Shut up about these non existing problems. If you have time to sit around and think about what color or gender you are go volunteer and contribute something. You'll feel a hell of alot better at the end of the day,, Or go to Sick kids hospital for 5 minutes and you'll see what REAL problems are, your victim mentality doesn't exactly fly there....
Yeah. Likewise, if you see some stupid shit on UA-cam, instead of wasting your time whining in the comments section, go volunteer and contribute something. You'll feel a hell of a lot better, and other people won't have to put up with your condescending, self-righteous diatribe.
i don't get it, americans consider everyone with curly hair black?? they don't have like, nuance in race?? its only white or black???? i'm honestly confused as fuck
If I'm honest, I see this case as the same principle as trans-gendered people. In both cases it is someone possessing different traits than those given at birth. If someone claims to support trans people and then doesn't support Rachel's right to change races then they are being hypocritical, personally I don't care about either issue but I hate intellectual dishonesty.
@DBR Liamg the problem with that argument is that it can easily be turned around and become very repressive/oppressive. e.g. a boy or girl is confused about his/her gender identity. well, no problem, just do a ct scan. if it fits the "biological condition" of transgenders, fine. but if she/he doesn't, tell him/her to "quit that nonsense" (because by that logic he or she isn't).
@xxxaragon You're using logic. That is not allowed - it's considered cheating, you must go with "feelings" and ignore all logic and facts (sarcasm). What's good for the goose is good for the gander. If a man can suddenly decide to be a woman (or vice-versa), then a "black" person can also decide to be "white" (or vice versa), and both mental illnesses should be treated the same - either dismissed out of hand, or treated with respect.
Because I keep reading in the comments that this women is the only person to be transracial I'd like to point out a few examples. There was a white guy who got plastic surgery to look Korean and a Korean who got plastic surgery took look European. There are also Asians who identify more with being European than Asian, westerners in Asia who identify more with being Asian than white. I don't understand the issue with it. You can grow up in another culture and identify with it more than another culture you only see on TV. Are people supposed to only act how they look even if they don't grow up in an environment supporting it?
Although I like Trevor and I watch him regularly, he is proving to hide extremely racicm, and that slowly diminishes my desire to watch. Does every episode he makes have to include the words "black" and "white"? Is he always so preoccupied with racial conflicts within him he cannot stop bringing it up? I mean, if your want an equal society, maybe you should stop invoking stupid dichotomies just to make a joke (which isn't funny by the way)
Meta11axis he comes from a place full of racial tension and it's trained his mind to discuss racial issues. If you were born into apartheid maybe you'd understand.
Ok so let me get this straight. So you cannot claim to be black cuz it is not a choice but you can claim to be man when you are a woman and vice versa. PC logic i guess. I am a liberal but please someone explain it to me i do not fucking get it anymore.
Fredrick Kieran Men start off as women in the womb. But the labia get fused to form the ballsack/taint, and that's what the seam is. The clit expands to the penis. The nipples are vestigal in a man but developed in a woman. We are a simple template that diverges when hormones adapt these areas. Some more than others. So it is easy to inhibit one hormone and supplement the desired one. This could be when people have unusual chromosomes like X, XXX, XXY, XYY where they may not match what is presenting outside. Whereas if you don't have the gene for melanin etc etc, you do not have it. You can't just tilt the hormones to fix it. You can't magic a tall gene, black gene, tail gene, webbed fingers gene, unless it's there.
OK. so i look as white as fuk but i have a legit family tree with native Americans in it. So how can i call myself native without anyone spitting on me?
Fredrick Kieran yeah I secretly find it kind of pointless that everyone is villainizing her... There are people doing actual crimes that are constantly getting away with it and everytime one person wastes a moment talking about her not only are they spreading undeserved cruelty but they are taking time away from another worthy cause that needs to have light shed on it, especially people with such massive audiences such as a well known late night talk show
Why is skin colour considered a culture? I understand that in America segregation led to cultural divides, but unless you're raised in a specific place, skin colour is just... well melanin. I'm black and I'm from England, I don't act "black" I act Yorkshire.
jhunt5578 how do you act black tho? That sounds so stupid.
Skin colour isn't a culture, they call it black culture because it was popularised and perpetuated by black americans. it's a simple system of classification i don't know where you're getting lost....
I agree with both of your comments. I get stereotyped within the confines of black culture because some people consider skin colour to affect my identity. I've legitimately been questioned with sincerity why I like Indie music more than Hip-Hop. I'm taking issue with the idea of black skin and black culture being synonymous.
Deborah A I put "black" in quotation as if to say other people believe you can act "black". Just listen to virtually any Chris Rock sketch and you'll get what I mean.
jhunt5578 That's because black culture and black skin was synonymous up until around 57 years ago (which historically speaking is like yesterday, I literally had a grand parent twice that age lol).
And not even taking that in to account the overwhelming majority of different racial groups live with and interact with people that are predominantly of the same racial group so they pick up things that are similar like behavioral traits and artistic preferences. While stereotyping is wrong people perceive those that are different from the group as "outliers" so it's only natural for them to question why you don't conform.
Like asking a woodpecker why it doesn't peck at bark like the rest of it's family when it spends all day trying to catch shinny shit with the magpies.
As a non-american, I find this whole debate a bit ridiculous, and judging from the comments I'm not the only one.
USA is sad
@@Angell_Lee theyre so weird.
"I'm the only person in the world who looks like a combination of BOTH Annies!"
I am deceased
Seriously, in most countries I've been to people identify as the citizen of that country rather than a particular race. If you're born in Turkey, and your parents were born in Turkey, you're a Turk. You could be super dark or pasty white. Same goes for Iran, Greece, Italy, Spain, Great Britain. Arabs call themselves Arabs all over the world and they could be stemming from entirely different countries with widely different skin colors. This obsession with someone being black, white, Hispanic, or mixed race is very much an American thing IMO.
lacountess No it's not really. Other countries do it as well. When I went to Egypt a few years ago the first day I was there I got called a racial slur. I can't speak for other races. But black people worldwide get a lot of hate. So we are always aware. We don't have the luxury of being colour blind.
The King of Zamunda I wasn't saying other countries aren't racist. I was saying they aren't as obsessed with labeling their citizens with their race. I'm also not implying it's all roses and rainbows there. Most old world countries have tribal divisions, or religious segregation, like Shiite and Suuni in the Middle East, or Sikhs and Hindus in India.
Every single country you have mentioned - people identify as their own separate ethnic groups. stop talking out of your ass. try call a kurd a turk, he will kick your ass; try call a catalonian a spaniard... try call a scotsman english... try call an azeri in iran an iranian.
before opening your mouth, do some research.
a scotsman isn't English, he wont care if you call him british though
The King of Zamunda completely agreed on that, even in India where most ppl r brown, discriminate against blacks as most of them r students , but bec of sterotype they r drugs peddler, hatez to be live in a century where still racism exist
"white people can still listen to Lemonade and still be mad at Jay-Z" 😂😂
I am from France so I do not understand this joke, can you explain please?
Don't forget Vanilla Ice
charlot et charlotte lemonade is an album beyoncé created to throw shade at jay-z, her then cheating husband
Can black people be white ? Michael Jackson, Beyoncé Knowles, they can sure try.
@Sir Isaac Brock ...and they say black people pull the race card too much...
Still think it's weird Americans call themselves like african-american, american, native american and w/e. Over here we'd just call people like that: Dutch, Dutch or Dutch. Or in Germany: German, German or German.
hylke45 As a German I can confirm that's true
It's even worse in South Afrika. Here you're either black, white or coloured (mixed race).
hylke45 So you don't have racial classifications in your country?
The King of Zamunda Usually not. I mean, if you're asked to describe a person's looks or something then you would also describe their skin colour probably, but normally, skin colour just doesn't matter.
'Statistics Netherlands does not keep track of ethnicity or race.' (in Dutch known as the CBS) is a government agency. It's not found on a passport either nor have I ever had to fill in information about my racial background for a government agency (only ever for surveys I think, which are anonymous).
Whilst not racial it is however recorded where you were born and where your parents were born (afaik). This doesn't say anything about race though. This does however indicate if you're autochtoon or allochtoon. Which they use to see how people with a non Dutch background adapt to the Dutch culture, norms and values.
We need an alien invasion for us to be united as just humans.
best thing ive read in a long time
We'd still fight each other.
Laura Velásquez
this is ACTUALLY true. Even though black people have been ready since Day one.. Whites needed a lot more time.
Lol
ronald reagan actually said this strangely enough.
I am from South America and we have no idea how to understand the American's way to segregate people by their color... we are so mixed is completely absurd to separate people between black and white, or calling yourself black because you have 1 drop of black blood, if you have a mixture of race you should be able to tribute both not only the black one, i.e.: Trevor Noah, Barack Obama, Drake, they have one white parent, sometimes that white parent has much more importance in their lives than the black parent and yet society as a whole doesn't allow them to tribute their white family as they should because they must define themselves as black or else they are insulting black community (wtf!?), crazy stupid thing, Slavery is the worst thing the USA got as a nation and these racial divisions are perverse, the more mixed the country becomes, the better for people to overcome this cultural madness... people should be able to acknowledge their heritage if you are mixed, all parts black and white or aboriginal... and by the way "Latinos" or "Hispanics" is not a race American Census, that's ignorant...
Biosnap Wonderfully written 😇
Biosnap Latinos aren't a race in the census they're a cultural group and are classified as Whites.
thanks
Yes, before 2010 was a race from 2010 the Census changed the concept, therefore you are correct but they are not included in the White race and because Hispanic and Latinos were a race in the Census still people get confused... "The 2010 US Census included changes designed to more clearly distinguish Hispanic ethnicity as not being a race. That included adding the sentence: "For this census, Hispanic origins are not races." Additionally, the Hispanic terms were modified from "Hispanic or Latino" to "Hispanic, Latino or Spanish origin". (wiki)
Nevertheless, the correction, the segregation via ethnicity is incorrect, people from Latin American origin can be from many races and that makes them very difficult if not stupid to encapsulate in a group because is totally misleading.
yes you're right they're still often mistaken as a race and I sometimes make that mistake too. But I have a Latino (Colombian) friend who said to me that Latinos, Hispanics do feel they belong to the same culture and he's been to various South or Central American countries.
If people can't tell if you are white or black, doesn't that make you think that the whole thing is irrelevant to start off?
You would think, but Murrcah.
Absolutely! I'm 24% black and most people think I'm mediterranean.
She picks a NIGERIAN NAME....OH NOOOOO leave my people alone woman we have enough issues already.
ESE like boko haram
It's not a Nigerian name, it's a Fulani name. There are other countries in West Africa in case you forgot...
Nkechi is an Igbo name.
And Diallo is Fulani
@@lsamoa My middle name is Nkechi, and I can confirm it IS Igbo. My parents are 100% Igbo, for goodness' sake. Not sure about Diallo, though.
The reason why non-Americans are confused: Americans label by skin color, the rest of the world labels by country born in, or even parent's country, or does not label at all (this group also has Americans in it).
This isn’t true. Lots of other countries identify with race. Particularly if they’re a country of various races. Yes, they claim nationality but race is a factor too. Americans identify with nationality too. They’re very American centric but among themselves there are differences. I don’t know why people on UA-cam want to act like race is uniquely American. I can pull up peer reviewed academic journals on clear racial lines in South America, the Caribbean, parts of Western Europe like France or England. It’s interesting and disingenuous how people online want to act like your race has no impact outside of America. That’s a bunch of hogwash. Unless you’re homogenous nation. I’m not American but I don’t see all their race stuff as unique to them. It’s in many other places. Sometimes other areas are worse than America.
I'm in Australia, and it confuses me over the race thing. "African-American"
We don't have names for Australians such as "african-australians" "asian-Australian". If you're born in Australia, or became a citizen, you're Australian. Unless you're a island torres, or aboringinal/indigenous, even then there's no question asking if you're white oborigine or black.
I was confused when i spoke to an American lady and she put a huge enthesist about being Asian, and to me... I saw no importance in this declaration, she's American.
@FuzzyBearies What a bold claim. It amazes me how somebody can be so oblivious to their own countries policy. The Apex gang that is constantly reported on the news as "African immigrants". Even though pretty every one of those kids were born in Australia. There has been a debate on deporting them. Again, deporting people to places they've never been to, simply because that's the origin of their parents. You're not confused, you're biased, hypocritical and, unaware of your own policy.
According to wikipedia. Apex, founded around year 2000, although lacking any leadership or structure, is a group that has been loosely termed a street gang in Melbourne, Australia. The founding members were part of South Sudanese origin. The South Sudanese community in Victoria are a refugee community fleeing from the civil war in their homeland, their community of about 20,000 arrived mostly between 2003-2006. The community has faced difficulties in adjusting to Australia, including facing casual racism and the difficulties faced in adjusting to a new Community. I dont see anything wrong calling them immigrants.
@@johnjohn-lk3je Of course you don't. Because you are a hypocrite. Most the Apex "gang" members are teenagers born and raised in the Australia. The group mostly consists of young teens. How is it that you live in Australia and don't know this?
This exists only because Americans are so obsessed with race. Everybody in the USA talks about race all the time, though mostly in coded language.
I just don't understand why your race even matters?
DablMON It really doesn't matter...it is these comedic types, individuals & associations who "keep it alive" as it were... Race is a social construct, a folk taxonomy, a specifying of groups of peoples according to a set characteristics, a way of differentiating one or another, then applying a stereotype. Myself as you see in my picture here, I am a "white male" as set by this thinking, my wife is "Hispanic", by the same logic, our 19 Year-old son is 50/50 in this regard. He has asked "what am I?" We have gone round & round with this obsession, this debate with race...our conclusion?, it just doesn't matter really....we have told him he's just a human being really...I guess he will be checking off the "OTHER", the little box containing all those pigeon holes, on the inevitable piece of paper, others who still will be obsessed with "race".
DabIMON cuz it does
Alejandro Becalli Race has no "power" of its own, it is ourselves that give it a "meaning"....for good or ill.
because we can't just ignore differences
Because many people are abused because of the colour of their skin. Have you read a history book?
I am Panamanian, but I identify as a Ninja Viking.
Ygor Nimoy lol
There is a contradiction in that vikings always cared a lot about their exceptionally good looks, while the ninja want to be invisible (and blend into the crowd). But the commonality between the two is pirates.
ninjas weren't pirates. they were employed by a ruling elite to work as spies.
hey man, you can be whatever you want. even Trump gets to bre president
Vikings were pirates, though. They are even a subspecies of pirates. Maybeyou could call someone who spied on vikings a viking ninja.
This is the kind of weird shit you get when you follow the one-drop rule. Like, still, whenever I see rachel dolezal I can't understand how anyone could have thought she was black. All I can see is a white woman with a perm.
yltraviole
I laughed so hard imagining her saying "I identify as a white woman with a perm".
yltraviole And a really orange tan.
yltraviole but at the same time there are lots of famous people who are part black and I never had any idea, like spencer from pretty little liars
she looks white, its her face shape
People who are ethnically-mixed can be hard to identify as belonging to a specific ethnic group. I am 50% white, the rest is a mix of African, Chinese, Native South-American, Jewish. I´m 25% African. In looks Rachel Dolezal and me could be sisters. Difference: I don´t do perm, my curls are natural :-)
We are all the human race, sooner we all get that the better.
Exactly. Fortunately most of the world isn't the US and doesn't cling onto an artificial construct like ethnicity so hard. Here in the Netherlands, you might occassionally hear people use the Dutch words for "white" and "black" in informal speech, but even then it's frowned upon, and if those terms would be used by a popular late night host or anybody of equal social influence, it would be a massive scandal.
In fact, biology shows that the differences between individuals in a race is larger than the statistically average differences between "races". There is literally _less_ biological support for race than there is for social gender. Yet, somehow people are now starting to become ok with trans people. Recognizing that transwomen are women, and transmen are men.
All these arguments can be turned to trans people as well. Bring on an androgynous person and ask them if they ever feel tempted to claim they're the opposite sex, you're likely to get the same sort of reply. "No." Because their identity does not align with the other gender. They know who they are, and where their cultural gender roles lie.
You cannot use that ambiguity to invalidate transpeople, by saying that just because someone who has passing privilege doesn't think of themselves as trans, that no one can be trans.
And as to the white parents question, trans people get "well, were you born with a vagina/penis?" Even still today.
And finally, "wtf? you can't just choose to be black, any more than black people can't stop being black." let me paraphrase: you can't just choose to be female, any more than women can stop being female. We ALREADY ACCEPT that people who are GENETICALLY IDENTIFIABLE as one sex can actually transition to being a member of the other sex, because our gender is a social performance, and interaction, not a biological feature of genetics or heritage.
Transwomen are constantly walking onto the battlefield of sexual oppression and going "holy crap, this system is SO FREAKING RIGGED against women!"
And "you can support them without claiming to be black," yes, just like transwomen could support female interests by being a feminist and not being a woman. Closing off the access for them to express themselves genuinely in order to insist that a barrier not be broken...
I understand that this upsets many black people, Dolezal. But transwomen upset a lot of women, and are now super pissing off men, just by using the same bathroom.
When all of your arguments have been used directly against another oppressed group that we've realized shouldn't be oppressed, you have to ask yourself if these are valid justifications, or if you're just throwing up the same old "I don't like change!" denialist arguments that todays newest bigots had been using against yesterday's oppressed people.
A race? Of what species? You use the word "race" only, if there are more races to differentiate between.
This doesn't make sense.
HUMAN SPECIES!
we aint the same race, we are thee same species.. get the terms right..
From a biological standpoint "race" is no less of a social construct than nationality...
In so far as "human race" you're aware that well before we spoke of elven races, and dwarven races, an..d fairy races, etc.
"state" means a sovereign body of government, and is not a subset of nation or country, it is in fact, just as equal as both of those terms. Yet, Americans, due largely in part, to how they have constructed their federal system use the term "state" exclusively to refer to the several states that are underneath the federal government, which is, itself actually a "state", and the reason why it's the "Department of State", not "Department of Nation" or "Department of Country".
I'm a white male but identifie as humming bird
I am a humming bird and I am offended...
shlibber lololol
I declare as half pollen and half nectar and we've been oppressed by humming birds since the beginning of time!
don't dude. you will lose your privilege
That's great!
Maybe one day it will be simply enough to identify ourselves as a human being.
Got any more platitude you'd like to share with the world?
I'm 4'7" and I identify as a 6'10" lol
I am Mexican, which means that I have ancestors indians (purepechas, nahuatls), spanish (sefardies, arabs and castilla?), and blacks. The first time I was asked about my race (In USA) I can not answer that....
Antonio Garcia Hold on... Spanish arabs?? I'm confused, wouldn't that make you middle eastern?
Nearly whole Spain was under arab/berber islamic control for a few hundred years in the middle ages (Even the majority of the people was islamcized). There had been a long war then and the iberian peninsula was rechristianized. The war and the rechristianization is called the reconquista period.
The muslims also wanted to go further and take France but they were defeated there by Karl Martell also known as "Karl the Hammer".
I think most Latinos/Hispanics tend to identify themselves by nationality and culture rather than race, they band together under a cultural umbrella with many similarities but still retain individuality from their own country's traditions and their upbringing - at least in general. I live in Canada, and am originally from Panama. I identify as Panamenian. I also identify as Latino/Hispanic. However my family has italian and spanish backgrounds so I look pretty white and most people only guess I am not Canadian due to my accent...which is also not an hispanic accent because of the languages I grew up listening to kind of mixed together giving me a rather odd accent (to the point even in my own country I would be asked multiple times where I was from). My point is that separating and trying to classify people by skin color as a "race" is oversimplistic and rather backwards. At this point we should start trying to move away from even labeling a race as such. We are all different and may share cultural similarities with other people of the same skin color, sure, but it is not a black and white matter. Even the terms mestizo and mulato and the like are slowly becoming obsolete with all the mixing we do.
tehnemox as you've probably already realized if you have kids in Canada they will hardly ever be asked anything about their origins. Only when someone in the group starts discussing how many Scots are in their family tree, for example, does it come up. In Canada, as long as you speak like the majority in that region, you can even say "I don't know" as an origin story. If your accent is different then you'll always be asked, for example, if you're raised in Newfoundland but live in any other province then get used to being asked.
Antonio Garcia Not all Mexicans have Indian ancestry.
its funny because I am white but wear a headscarf. I have LITERALLY had people ask me if I used to be white but now am muslim(???). Weird how when people look at each other they automatically have to clasify or label them, I mean can I not just be a person regardless?
Nasreen Nabaoui lol cuz muslim is a skin colour 😂
Cause Muslims tend hate white people, but whatever.
James Sunderland I know this may come as a shock to u but....there are white muslims, i know its crazy
that's odd, the Muslims I have met over the years didn't hate white people at all. Something must be wrong. I'm guessing that what is wrong is what you've been told about Muslims sofar.
James Sunderland yh i dont hate any white people and idk any other muslim that hates them
It's bizarre that someone can "build their whole career on being black" [0:27]. If your career requires that you be a certain race then there's systemic racism in that line of work.
Conor Sheedy her career didn't require her to be Black. The NAACP was founded by white people and there are many white members
She had to pretend to be black so she could access funding meant for racially discriminated people. She's a con artist.
My former doctor is white, and she wears a Black Lives Matter wristband when she sees her patients. I, a mixed race Chinese and White girl, high fived her!
Please tell me trans-racial won't become a thing. Suddenly humanity is like an RPG with character cuztomization where you can change your race, face, sex, at any time.
The_Pyromancer rt.
That would be awesome. Hopefully people would get so tired of it they would stop caring about what race, sex or gender anyone is.
I want to change species to werewolf in that new life RPG!!
Govenrment's gonna introduce micro transactions + DLC so you can choose new racial backgrounds
The term 'wigga' was tossed around in the 80's already, so... it's kinda been a thing for a few decades already.
She looks she could pass 4 mixed...
Mashundae Pearman Not if you actually see her with her REAL hair and skin color before she gets spray tanned lol - she's literally wearing black face and leading the NAACP it's hilariously offensive
IMO people are being too hard on her. Her parents adopted like 4 black kids when she was a baby. So she grew up thinking she was black. And she went to Howard University a HBCU, She taught black history and has a masters degree in African Studies, she ran the NAACP chapter in her city, her ex-husband is black, she has black kids and now works as hair dresser doing black hair. You can say she has a mental problem - but her heart is in the right place - she actually thinks she's a black woman.
Mashundae Pearman I don't really care about ethnicity or color but it's not a big difference between her and Trevor.
dothedeed but she is not. End of story. She can turn her "blackness" off. I can't. So she is not black.
Johan Öhgren
because 1) Trevor is mixed 2)Rachel has made herself look *mixed*
The fact that everyone at the show and in the comment secrion still plays "one blood drop rule" game is just astonishing.
I've always found it funny that in the US you're either white, or black or asian or whatever. It's an either or with nothing in between. No one would call that woman black in Spain or South America. Maybe we'd call her "mulata" or "mestiza".
That's because Spaniards and Portuguese had a race classification based on ascendency that determined your worth and how much you could advance in society. So a mulata had it better than a black, but a castiza (mixture of spaniard and mulata) had it better than the mulata, and a criollo (son of spaniards born in the colonies) had it even better but even then worse than a spaniard. In USA, as well as one of your parents was black you were black.
Two both horrible distinct modes of organizing discrimination.
Yeah - the USA had the "1 drop rule" so if 1 out of your 16 great grand parents was black and the other 15 were white, then you're still black.
In Norway we'd just call her "foreigner", LOL
USA has a shitty classification of ethnicities and races.
A third of them is retarded, so don't blame them.
Would they call her white? Coz she doesn't look that either.
Well I don't know about you, but I'm Arab first, then Palestinian, then brown. I really don't identify with brown. That is literally just a color, like if somebody asked for my skin color I would say brown. But when asked to identify myself, i always go Arab/Palestinian.
Also too many people are brown for that to be a real category. Arabs, Latinos, Indians and many more. Well it's a category, obviously, but it really doesn't tell you much.
It's honestly pretty depressing how obsessed most Americans still are with race and biological heritage, though sadly not surprising. It's been less than 100 years since the country was segregated, after all, and these things take a long time.
Trevor’s face on can i just call you Racheal....... is priceless 😂😂😂😂😂
Blackness is now defined by good taste in Sneakers?
Oddblood01 its a joke...
Someone can’t take a joke , this is a comedy channel
Michelle is awesome. Loved the segment about Kellyanne Conway with her. She should be on camera much more
😂😂 relatable. I got asked if I was black in a library once. And I have no idea why that conclusion was reached by that guy 🤷♀️
"Are you black"? What a disgraceful question to ask.
How someone could do that? Saying you are black when not. America never stops surprising me!
I was very confused when I started my exchange year in the US, because I had to fill out a form that asked for my race. I literally don't know and I've never been asked that question before in my life. So that was an odd experience. Still don't get it
I can relate to this. I have been variously mistaken for an Iranian, an Egyptian, a Kyrgyz, a Turkmen, a German, and, for some inexplicable reason, a Spaniard.
Kyrgyz is relatively close seeing as my family is Qipchak.
This is an honest question from an old white guy. What did she do wrong? She lived full time as a black woman -- with all its inherent dangers and prejudices. Where does embracing a culture -- identifying with it and living it -- stop and appropriation begin? For example, should the Maoris of New Zealand be pissed because every school kid -- no matter their ethnicity -- in New Zealand performs a haka before each competition? Has New Zealand embraced the Maori heritage and history of their country -- or appropriated it?
She hasn't always been "black" she grew up as a white girl from a middle class family and enjoyed full white privilege, until she decided to transition into 'blackness'. Only if black people had similar choices! 😂
I'm not from the US. Do people rally mistake her for being black? Like wtf she has white written on her forehead.
"can i Just call you Rachel"😃🤣
trevor's dmx impression is on point :D
I'm half black and I identify as an kangaroo.
I'm so sick of hearing about "race"
She's right. Be your race and respect other races.
The answer "NO" has never been funnier. hahaha
So much talk about race. Sounds like we are prolonging the idea that race actually matters.
"If you're from Africa why are you white? "XD lolz
She doesn't look black at all, but aight.
not really...just because she has curly hair and got herself a tan lol
I would say biracial, not black
Slightly less black than meagan markel
"Can I just call you Rachel" DEEEAD!😂😂💀
"Are you indian?"
"Nope, you know the country underneath it? Ya that small one people forget about? Yes the one with thousands of also brown people? Yes, srilanka. That one. Yup."
I had that same problem identifying the heritage of one of my high school teachers. She looked Indian/Pakistani but she had the deepest Glaswegian (Scottish) accent, deeper than even anyone in the class of white scottish kids. Turns out her ancestry was from Srilanka but it wasn't like she spoke the language or knew the flag or kept any of the cultural heritage. She was just simply Scottish in our eyes with an interesting appearance. And with a really long last name you couldn't spell lol.
Same problem. People always ask me if i'm indian and when i say : " no i'm sri lankan" there like "where is it ?" and i have to explain them that it's an island next to India and then they would say : "same thing" just because they don't know where it is situated.
@@claratheteddybear1463 And even for being Indian u have to explain native or Asian Indian.
Gorgeous place and people. Sri lanka is awesome.
'Can I just call you Rachel?' 😂😂😂
Doležal is a Czech (central European) name, I'm Czech and she looks completely Czech to me - minus the hair :-) Honestly, the first time I laid eyes on her I thought "Why is the Czech nurse pretending to be black?" I don't know why I thought that. But she looks like someone I could meet at a doctor or in a town hall here in the Czech Republic.
"black isnt a club you can just join"...Thank you
Being from Europe don't get why this is such a large topic in the USA.
If you want to get of racism, stop talking all the time about the difference of ethnicities.
Also, I find it embarassing that "black" is always connected with rapping, strange names, and being loud, obnoxious, stupid, and cool.
Please, isn't everyone fed up with the same jokes time and time again? 16% black in the USA and they can't shut up about it.
That is even more funnier, when you think, how stupid the classification of "races" in USA is. It is based on some XVIII-centuries theories about different races. Now scientists believe, that human race in the only race.
"Caucasian race" is even funnier, as it its based on XVIII-centurie theory, which was proved to be wrong; and in America the majority of Europeoids are excluded from the concept! 60% of actual Caucasians are excluded, as they are Muslims! Latinos are excluded as well. The is so stupid.
They are blaming woman for trying to leave one artificially created concept for another, literally.
The only true difference between people is based on ethnics and religion (sometimes, ethnics includes religion) and it can be changed by accepting religion or/and traditions of this very people.
"Being from Europe" well wtf is that. belonging to a continent blah blah blah
Joynal Miah obviously they're not
You mean like us saying we are "American" or "from America"?....America is a whole damn continent!
😧 That strong ending 😂
Will miss Trevor's sweaters after this Covid-19 lockdown
#socialdistancing
3:57 Michael Jackson disagrees
He is a self-hating black who had a white man impregnate his wife so his kids will be white. He was never accepted still ridiculed and mocked.
Paraphrasing: a MtF trans person is a self-hating man, a gender traitor for males and a gender impostor for females, not accepted as a female, that is why such person is ridiculed, mocked and abused.
reyrkiih You must be fun at parties.
Ya right...and the nose? was that Nitiligo?
Seriously? Come on man. They are his children.
What if she identifies as a black person? I don't get the difference between that and identifying as a female when you were born a male. I am honestly trying to be open minded but struggling with this concept. Somebody please educate me on how one thing is ok while the other is a horrific deed.
Gender dysphoria exists, racial dysphoria doesn't. Simple. If there was such a thing, I'd be able to claim I'm a white person trapped in a black body. Obviously never going to happen. Only people with zero experience of white supremacy can be confused about the difference between a medical reality and white entitlement. Smh.
While in a US McDonalds, Southern State, a guy heard me speak and had to inform me he was English. I asked which part and he then said his ancestors came from there. I replied "my ancestors had migrated from England to Australia". Not what he was expecting.
So the philosophy "be who u want to be" doesn't mean anything huh?
Denzel Porte bruh i can't just wake up one day and say "i am white now" .that is ridiculous
I dont live in the US but im already exhausted with the race talk
Surname Doležal has Czech origin (whereas the Czech Republic has like 0.00015% of black population).
But there is a great hint in the surname which is inherited like a DNA.
The meaning is "a bit lazy" or be/pretend to be someone important ;)
marusak72
How is Czech Republic's black population relevant when it comes to her? If she was really mixed, she could just have white Czech relatives. The possibility of her black relatives being from Czech republic would be tiny af :D
It is not about race, but self proclaimed Native American blue eyed a bit albinish Raaffu Väinönpoika, pretending to be a Black foot chieftain would be also ridiculous.
I can't say anything about her XX black DNA (if there is any). What I see is just Slavic somatotype lady, a chemical permanent wave and blue eyes. The only DNA we know is XY part inherited together with her family name. The roots in a country where before WWII was one (I mean literally ONE) black guy just makes it more obvious.
but she does not have blue eyes. and you talk about XX and XY DNA what about autosomes
Trying join our club when y'll don't even want us at all..
We in Germany are maybe a bit quick with cultural labels when it comes to skin-colour or religion, but we are nothing compared to what the US is pulling off, as it seems. I never heard a Turk say "you can't smoke Shisha, you're white", they'd most likely offer you the pipe. I mean, yes, there is Divisiveness and it's a problem, but we don't practice this cultural exclusivity that I feel like it only stirs segregation.
The word missing from your comment is "anymore". You (Germany not you personally obviously) don't do that anymore because the entire planet stopped you from doing it and that took a whole world war to get sorted. The US never had that happen to stop them so it still goes on.
The largest immigrant group in the US is…………..
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I can't believe people denied this woman her right to identify as black. Intolerance is a growing problem in American - it isn't getting better, it's getting worse.
How about that: WHE'RE ALL HUMAN!!!!
Shame the US justice system doesn't seem to agree with you
It's kind of sad how Trevor has dummed himself down since moving to America.
"I have a superficial grasp of transsexuality and an overly simplistic view of race-related issues." ~ Most UA-camrs here, apparently.
Hear hear
I m from ALGERIA
We have black and white Algerians but we never devide them
We even these past several years have a lot refugees from Mali and Niger but no discrimination or racism at all.
What s wrong with you America
Americans confuse race, religion and nationality. It baffles me on how ignorant that whole thing can be.
Can she get her own show please?! I love her!!!
It is so weird to me that everyone is talking about 'race'. If I said that here in Germany, everybody would go nuts. Why is there such a strict classification, why does everybody have to fit into a category? Colour of skin or outer looks are just a way of describing people, it does not determine what their personality is like
Vanadiumoxid
In Europe, only racists mention race. End of story.
I love how youtubers try to pretend that race isn't a thing in Europe. Hypocrites.
@Vanadiumoxid
400+ years of enslavement of a visible minority does tend to warp a country's sense of reality - especially regarding the laughable concept of "race".
A GROWN MAN can identify as a teenage girl and its acceptable, so why should it not be acceptable for a person to identify as whatever race they want?
“Ah, America, built by the blacks and owned by the Chinese” - Admiral General Aladeen
A true combination of both Annie's...too funny.
were all from Africa, technically we are all "black" in origin
O G no. Africa doesn't mean black. #egypt
but very first humans are from africa (australopeticus afarensis) that´s what he meant i think.
I agreed 100%
Happy Maker those aren’t human
but all after lucy were than so called humans ;)
My classmate told me that she's been asked three times in the last month whether she's First Nations (Canada). She's from Peru.
My mom is black and dad is white. Im white with an afro hair. I grew up in a black neighborhood some people might say is a guetto. And my friends call me cookie cream. And damn is hard. with my natural hair people thinks i bleached my skin. But im white with an amazing hair
caythlin100 ur biracial
This woman should get her own show..she is funny as hell...
Ugh can we just stop pretending race and gender mean anything. we're all people and that should be that.
When its all said and done, she did a pretty good job.
Thank you. I live in the U.S. and I think she is being misjudged. She cared and that's what matters.
I don't understand why people have to be "black" or "white". These concepts aren't meaningfully defined, and I don't see why we need them in the first place. I understand why people who suffer from prejudice would want to group together and fight that, and I understand why people are proud of their cultural background and want it to be a part of them, but none of that requires splitting people into two precise categories. What are you trying to achieve by answering the question "is this person black ?".
What if instead of cheating herself to college scholarships earmarked for inner-city black students like she did, she cheated herself to college scholarships earmarked for deaf students, would you still find the question "is this person deaf" irrelevant?
I LOVE you Trevor Noah. I am watching your clips from far far away, in S America, in the Amazon jungle where I now live for many reasons (many of them you touch upon daily.) yet I do do love the USA, where I was born (first generation of my family) & raised. My heart hurts from what I see going on in the country of my birth--YOU can bring a smile to my face & often make me laugh out loud--even about the things that make me sometimes want to cry. THANK YOU! Laughter IS the best medicine.
Hi Trevor, you are a real Champion For The People, can you assist with exposing the farm murders in South Africa, thank you.
who is reading 📖 the comments while watching the show after 2 hrs
She's right about the crying thing. I'm white and I cried myself out of smuggling contraband in Cambodia.
It is interesting to me that the same people who say you can be what ever gender you choose to be draw the line at you can't be what ever race you want to be. When she says that you cannot choose your race and if you are born white then you are white, then by that definition if you are born a woman then you are a woman? If gender is fluid why isn't race?
Good point
Magg Rick very good point (y)
Race isn't really a thing you can change, your race is your ancestry, your roots, your traditions, and that can not be changed like gender.
Well I do agree there are people who do not have the operation but still identify as female/male or neutral.
Because they are different...? Like others said, you can change gender but not race, not everything is fluid. And i don.t think it's politically incorrect to think and say that. Is it that bad to 'not be free'? Because we are really not.
"can I just call you Rachel?" 😂😂😂😂
-Shut up about these non existing problems. If you have time to sit around and think about what color or gender you are go volunteer and contribute something. You'll feel a hell of alot better at the end of the day,, Or go to Sick kids hospital for 5 minutes and you'll see what REAL problems are, your victim mentality doesn't exactly fly there....
Jared Cruickshank bless you ❤
Yeah. Likewise, if you see some stupid shit on UA-cam, instead of wasting your time whining in the comments section, go volunteer and contribute something. You'll feel a hell of a lot better, and other people won't have to put up with your condescending, self-righteous diatribe.
You are now my favourite Bob, McBob. On point X
Well, I know someone who is half-white and made a whole career on the fact that he is "black". I am talking about you, Obama
can't claim race but you can claim gender?
i don't get it, americans consider everyone with curly hair black?? they don't have like, nuance in race?? its only white or black???? i'm honestly confused as fuck
If I'm honest, I see this case as the same principle as trans-gendered people. In both cases it is someone possessing different traits than those given at birth. If someone claims to support trans people and then doesn't support Rachel's right to change races then they are being hypocritical, personally I don't care about either issue but I hate intellectual dishonesty.
@DBR Liamg
the problem with that argument is that it can easily be turned around and become very repressive/oppressive.
e.g. a boy or girl is confused about his/her gender identity. well, no problem, just do a ct scan. if it fits the "biological condition" of transgenders, fine. but if she/he doesn't, tell him/her to "quit that nonsense" (because by that logic he or she isn't).
@xxxaragon
You're using logic. That is not allowed - it's considered cheating, you must go with "feelings" and ignore all logic and facts (sarcasm).
What's good for the goose is good for the gander. If a man can suddenly decide to be a woman (or vice-versa), then a "black" person can also decide to be "white" (or vice versa), and both mental illnesses should be treated the same - either dismissed out of hand, or treated with respect.
Because I keep reading in the comments that this women is the only person to be transracial I'd like to point out a few examples. There was a white guy who got plastic surgery to look Korean and a Korean who got plastic surgery took look European. There are also Asians who identify more with being European than Asian, westerners in Asia who identify more with being Asian than white. I don't understand the issue with it. You can grow up in another culture and identify with it more than another culture you only see on TV. Are people supposed to only act how they look even if they don't grow up in an environment supporting it?
She's so god damn gorgeous 😍😍😍😍 I'm in love with her!
mohaed96 she's a ... wait for it... a wolf!
She seems so laid back :)
yeah! She's indeed a combination of the two Annie's ! 🤣👏👏
Hm?
And I wonder whether a South African can be American. NOPE!
No? If Trevor were to have a child with a woman from the Americas, that child would be both American and South African...
Although I like Trevor and I watch him regularly, he is proving to hide extremely racicm, and that slowly diminishes my desire to watch. Does every episode he makes have to include the words "black" and "white"? Is he always so preoccupied with racial conflicts within him he cannot stop bringing it up? I mean, if your want an equal society, maybe you should stop invoking stupid dichotomies just to make a joke (which isn't funny by the way)
Meta11axis he comes from a place full of racial tension and it's trained his mind to discuss racial issues. If you were born into apartheid maybe you'd understand.
when she said 💯 percent true story.we knew it was not. i bet she even didn't knew the story 😂 😆
Ok so let me get this straight. So you cannot claim to be black cuz it is not a choice but you can claim to be man when you are a woman and vice versa. PC logic i guess. I am a liberal but please someone explain it to me i do not fucking get it anymore.
Fredrick Kieran Men start off as women in the womb. But the labia get fused to form the ballsack/taint, and that's what the seam is. The clit expands to the penis. The nipples are vestigal in a man but developed in a woman. We are a simple template that diverges when hormones adapt these areas. Some more than others. So it is easy to inhibit one hormone and supplement the desired one. This could be when people have unusual chromosomes like X, XXX, XXY, XYY where they may not match what is presenting outside. Whereas if you don't have the gene for melanin etc etc, you do not have it. You can't just tilt the hormones to fix it. You can't magic a tall gene, black gene, tail gene, webbed fingers gene, unless it's there.
OK. so i look as white as fuk but i have a legit family tree with native Americans in it. So how can i call myself native without anyone spitting on me?
Fredrick Kieran There is no logic to it.Whatever appeals most to the emotions wins.
Fredrick Kieran if you are Native American you can call yourself that. As long as it isn't one of those "oh I'm 0.000016% Native American" thing
Fredrick Kieran yeah I secretly find it kind of pointless that everyone is villainizing her... There are people doing actual crimes that are constantly getting away with it and everytime one person wastes a moment talking about her not only are they spreading undeserved cruelty but they are taking time away from another worthy cause that needs to have light shed on it, especially people with such massive audiences such as a well known late night talk show