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The craziest part of this is that it wasn’t even a 6-5 double overtime sudden death 30 minute match! Most of the videos out there showing there, big performance matches are usually double rounds! 80K on a 3 to 2 victory is insane. Absolute goat Kayji, enjoy your vacation!
OMG youre rly the goat... my pb is 70k but i totally forgot the animation cancel... so thank you for reminding me with this video XD. the only other thing that will rly help me what i never saw before is the cloak into ult (since i am a god at dying in peni mines and getting one shotted by hawkeye).... so smart. i think when doing these 2 things to optimize my gameplay and a long competetive game it might be possible to get close to that... wish you the best time with your family!
@@TheMidnightKarneval well animation cancelling is maybe not the perfect term. but everytime he fully unloads his magazine he swaps to cloak and back to dagger instead of staying on dagger. this is because swapping to cloak and back to dagger is faster than the releod animation of dagger. so youre just saving a few milliseconds i believe, but after a few times this adds up and saves a lot of time. (i dont know what youre planning on doing with this but i just want to add, that this is just perfection and not needed for a normal or even good cd player... this rly is just if you want to get the maximum value out of them (best method by now) and not needed anywhere below the top ranks) but short and simply: switching to cloak and back to dagger when magazine is empty instead of watching dagger spin around is saving you time.
@ I saw a couple of uses: 1. You can use Cloak’s right click for better positioning, most of his ults started in the air instead of the ground; and 2. He often turned into a Cloak DPS post ult because the ult provides so much healing already
To everyone dropping positive comments and willing to learn, thank you! And to the clowns spewing ignorant nonsense, keep that coming too, your stupidity is just fueling the algorithm and stacking my bags 😘
I was playing rocket in comp and i had an ally who played CnD. Hulk looked at me and said i wasnt playing the meta and i was throwing the game. Mind you this was 5 seconds after we started to run to the defense spot. We won and he still flamed me every time he died... i had teammates telling him to shut up lol. He didnt like the fact i had the highest heals in the match at 56k. He left prettty quick after that
More doesn't mean better Like 10k heals by sue or Luna or clock is better than 25k by raccoon They simply heal more intensely than raccoon. As raccoon I can kill your teammates right Infront of you and you wouldn't be able to do shit lol Clock for instance can bubble, wall and primary while raccoon just holds "secondary" The only time raccoon would not be a throw is if he is picked as a third healer or in a team with Bucky or punisher.
@@AladdinBinLaden This dude is actually right. Raccoon has no burst healing so if a tank like hulk gets focussed, racoon can't do sht. I played as hulk yesterday with a raccoon teammate and i immediately swapped to another tank. Racoon just can't heal enough immediately. The large amount of healing is just due to him healing the poke damage. I play racoon, I find him quite fun, especially in the klyntar map, but u gotta realise and accept the deficiencies of your favourite characters.
This what it looks like when your team actually use cloaks ult and don’t back away from it or move away like it’s going to damage them 😂 I’m GM 1 atm average 25k healing a game but highest I’ve gotten is 72k but games I have 40-60k healing is when people actually use my ult… a lot of GM matches tanks and dps just don’t use it even if I’m letting them know stand in it!! Even my bubble if I’m getting dived I keep for dive if no dive comp Then I use on tanks but even then they will just walk right out of it.. you can litterly bubble blanket heal and auto attack a tank and the whole other team can’t kill them if they stay in bubble.
I’m diamond 1 and I can confirm I do walk away from cloak ult too much my brother is gm 1 too and sees a lot of similar things like this like bad timings for healer olts staggering and bad decisions and positioning which is pretty suprising I would think gm 1 would look something similar to the game in the video but it isn’t nearly that good
Was playing with my homies and asked why aren’t you guys standing in my ult. They say they don’t wanna run into a team fight like that I’m like you literally can’t die when you stand in it !!!!!
@ exactly… it’s a ult meant to push space control space or protect it.. it’s flexible because you can use it to engage a point and team can follow your dashes due to won’t die in it.. it’s almost like I have to play with a premade for them to stand in it which is bad.. this why I said they need to visually change 2 abilities on c&d her cloak ult needs better visuals and her bubble now needs change due to invis woman’s damage bubble looks the same. Idk how many times I have invis girl on my team and people move out of my bubble heal because they thought it was invis girl damage bubble
When you’re playing dagger and turn into cloak for a split second, then turn back, what does that do? I didn’t see any move coming from cloak in that split second.
how are you always """reloading""" at the perfect time? are you looking at the numbers in the bottom left, are you counting to 12 in your head, have you played the character so long than you can intuit when you need to """reload"""?
quick question, what do you use to know when to quick swap to reload. Do you click individually and count, do you count hit marks, do you count the number of times the character moves, do you count the number of projectiles fired... This will really help me as a low elo cloak and dagger main
its not really counting, you are reloading when you see an opportunity to reload, and it takes a little practice seeing these opportunities. you shouldnt reload at a time where they absolutely need the heals and you can’t afford to go through the animation ,the best is to reload whenever you can to prevent these scenarios (where you could’ve saved someone if u we’rent in your reloading animation.) so basically, utilize ur max ammo by its fullest but switch back again when you find a good opportunity so you can heal for longer if ur team needs it BUT ALSO dont play with like 7 ammo throughout the whole game, too much reloading is just unnecessary and every bit of healing IS important and ur just getting rid of these small ult percentage charges by reloading too much
I don’t play a lot of support but why did you use ur invisible on clove before using ur ult and is switching really faster than reloading is it worth to do it if I’m on console running with lower fps
does anyone know if when dagger uses her wall that gives more healing. Does teammate healing count then towards hers? because she enhanced it or something?
If anyone wants to help me out here, I couldnt quite tell why all the quick switch to cloak and back to dagger was doing. Anyone care to fill me in on the tech?
Your other healer wasn't doing much You had WAY more healing than them, and damage I don't think I saw the other support ult nearly as much as you... and if they weren't doing dmg and getting kills... what were they doing???
If you understand how their kit works, you'll notice that CND provides a more effective way of delivering AoE healing, which helps with gaining ult more efficiently compared to InviWoman. InviWoman tho more on utility and crowd control, disrupting the enemy's positioning, which doesn't contribute as much to her ult gain.
I think the better way is to just create counters like an anti-heal character. Like the way Wolverine counters 2-tank teams. The current problem is that the current season's counters to healer ults are easily thwarted (e.g. ults that kill healers can be blocked by shield tanks or a well placed Groot wall). Nerfing heals just to address the problem of chaining healer ults I think will just lead to a different overpowered meta team comp.
@ Until anti healing is introduced if ever nerfing healing would perhaps be the best route for now. Most can still use their ability’s on top of them anyways. But for now an entire team wailing on 1 character during C&Ds ult but can’t kill them still is absolutely insane.
They could also add more one shots to ults. Scarlet Witch could get an ult buff where the ult ignores shields protecting enemies. Maybe also make certain ults ramp up damage if they land on enemies insides an ult aoe heal.
actually insane how even people in high rank think stats matter... in a game where whole teams stand on cloak and dagger ulti for the entire duration damaging and healing everyone to even brag about your healing numbers.. stop just stop
you cant heal someone who is full health. if his healing was 40k instead of 80k that game would have gone VERY differently. From the way you talk you sound like a typical dps instalocker who just feed and blame your healers every game.
@@m1xxified yeah except when healer ulties go out the other healer ulties go out and everyone hold hands for 10 seconds sharing damage.. then bad players like you will blame adam warlock players for not having inflated healing numbers. its fine you will forever be low rank and thats ok!
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The craziest part of this is that it wasn’t even a 6-5 double overtime sudden death 30 minute match! Most of the videos out there showing there, big performance matches are usually double rounds!
80K on a 3 to 2 victory is insane. Absolute goat Kayji, enjoy your vacation!
I wondered if swapping to Cloak quickly was faster than reloading. Good to confirm.
It was slightly faster in season 0, in season 1 its significantly faster (I have 150 hours on this character)
OMG youre rly the goat... my pb is 70k but i totally forgot the animation cancel... so thank you for reminding me with this video XD. the only other thing that will rly help me what i never saw before is the cloak into ult (since i am a god at dying in peni mines and getting one shotted by hawkeye).... so smart. i think when doing these 2 things to optimize my gameplay and a long competetive game it might be possible to get close to that... wish you the best time with your family!
“A god at dying in penny mines and getting one shotted by Hawkeye” is hilarious bro. It’s how I talk as well🤣
how does the animation cancelling work? I didn't catch how to do it
@@TheMidnightKarneval well animation cancelling is maybe not the perfect term. but everytime he fully unloads his magazine he swaps to cloak and back to dagger instead of staying on dagger. this is because swapping to cloak and back to dagger is faster than the releod animation of dagger. so youre just saving a few milliseconds i believe, but after a few times this adds up and saves a lot of time. (i dont know what youre planning on doing with this but i just want to add, that this is just perfection and not needed for a normal or even good cd player... this rly is just if you want to get the maximum value out of them (best method by now) and not needed anywhere below the top ranks) but short and simply: switching to cloak and back to dagger when magazine is empty instead of watching dagger spin around is saving you time.
@gawrgura3767 ahh okay. I knew that but thought there was an animation cancel for one of her other skills. Thank you for clarifying
Perfect game to upload and see a masterclass in CnD gameplay. Enjoy the rest of your vacation!
The biggest tip I picked up from this video is to always swap to Cloak before ulting
why is that? So you don't have to swap after?
@ I saw a couple of uses: 1. You can use Cloak’s right click for better positioning, most of his ults started in the air instead of the ground; and 2. He often turned into a Cloak DPS post ult because the ult provides so much healing already
@@zoulogist9171 it also helps counter magneto ulting you in between dashes
this is why you're the goat on cloak and dagger
Cloak and Dagger has a low win rate only because ppl play dagger with one hand
@@WalkerBrown-t6z😂😂
80k is crazy tho, good content👍
Yeah!! He is great! Love his videos
@@livedPOV IKR??!?!?!
Incredibly funny that they had to use their Loki as well as their c/d to match your ults cause you were getting them so fast
To everyone dropping positive comments and willing to learn, thank you!
And to the clowns spewing ignorant nonsense, keep that coming too, your stupidity is just fueling the algorithm and stacking my bags 😘
I was playing rocket in comp and i had an ally who played CnD. Hulk looked at me and said i wasnt playing the meta and i was throwing the game. Mind you this was 5 seconds after we started to run to the defense spot.
We won and he still flamed me every time he died... i had teammates telling him to shut up lol. He didnt like the fact i had the highest heals in the match at 56k. He left prettty quick after that
More doesn't mean better
Like 10k heals by sue or Luna or clock is better than 25k by raccoon
They simply heal more intensely than raccoon. As raccoon I can kill your teammates right Infront of you and you wouldn't be able to do shit lol
Clock for instance can bubble, wall and primary while raccoon just holds "secondary"
The only time raccoon would not be a throw is if he is picked as a third healer or in a team with Bucky or punisher.
As a cloak n dagger main, I love a good rocket thank you for your service in support role🫡🫡
@@AladdinBinLaden🤡
@@AladdinBinLaden
This dude is actually right.
Raccoon has no burst healing so if a tank like hulk gets focussed, racoon can't do sht.
I played as hulk yesterday with a raccoon teammate and i immediately swapped to another tank. Racoon just can't heal enough immediately.
The large amount of healing is just due to him healing the poke damage.
I play racoon, I find him quite fun, especially in the klyntar map, but u gotta realise and accept the deficiencies of your favourite characters.
Great story. I hate myself for reading this to the end
Enjoy your break streamer!! Cant wait for new content
crazy i just watched this replay the other day 🙏 fire asf 🔥
2:13 bruh that Dr Strange got abducted from Manhattan and got trafficked all the way to Oakland 🤣
Players when they win with bunk stats "stats don't matter". Players when they win with monster stats "look at my stats!"
Triple support has a 48% win rate (depending on rank, but it is never above 48) 2-2-2 is 52% or more
whats the counter to triple support ?
kayjii - hold my beer ;D
“Remember, switching to your -pistol- cloak is always faster than reloading”
This what it looks like when your team actually use cloaks ult and don’t back away from it or move away like it’s going to damage them 😂 I’m GM 1 atm average 25k healing a game but highest I’ve gotten is 72k but games I have 40-60k healing is when people actually use my ult… a lot of GM matches tanks and dps just don’t use it even if I’m letting them know stand in it!! Even my bubble if I’m getting dived I keep for dive if no dive comp
Then I use on tanks but even then they will just walk right out of it.. you can litterly bubble blanket heal and auto attack a tank and the whole other team can’t kill them if they stay in bubble.
I’m diamond 1 and I can confirm I do walk away from cloak ult too much my brother is gm 1 too and sees a lot of similar things like this like bad timings for healer olts staggering and bad decisions and positioning which is pretty suprising I would think gm 1 would look something similar to the game in the video but it isn’t nearly that good
Was playing with my homies and asked why aren’t you guys standing in my ult. They say they don’t wanna run into a team fight like that I’m like you literally can’t die when you stand in it !!!!!
@ exactly… it’s a ult meant to push space control space or protect it.. it’s flexible because you can use it to engage a point and team can follow your dashes due to won’t die in it.. it’s almost like I have to play with a premade for them to stand in it which is bad.. this why I said they need to visually change 2 abilities on c&d her cloak ult needs better visuals and her bubble now needs change due to invis woman’s damage bubble looks the same. Idk how many times I have invis girl on my team and people move out of my bubble heal because they thought it was invis girl damage bubble
my highest is 64k heals on C&D just hit today
bro NEEDS to drop the advanced guide
always delivering amazing gameplay!
enjoy your break :)
Kayjii my goat
When you’re playing dagger and turn into cloak for a split second, then turn back, what does that do? I didn’t see any move coming from cloak in that split second.
Reload faster
Great plays! How come you don't use the blind though?
its not healing
how are you always """reloading""" at the perfect time? are you looking at the numbers in the bottom left, are you counting to 12 in your head, have you played the character so long than you can intuit when you need to """reload"""?
As a CnD main I do stuff at the most perfect times just by instinct and knowing the character's cooldown etc.
this just made me realize i gotta lock tf in on c&d
quick question, what do you use to know when to quick swap to reload. Do you click individually and count, do you count hit marks, do you count the number of times the character moves, do you count the number of projectiles fired... This will really help me as a low elo cloak and dagger main
its not really counting, you are reloading when you see an opportunity to reload, and it takes a little practice seeing these opportunities. you shouldnt reload at a time where they absolutely need the heals and you can’t afford to go through the animation ,the best is to reload whenever you can to prevent these scenarios (where you could’ve saved someone if u we’rent in your reloading animation.) so basically, utilize ur max ammo by its fullest but switch back again when you find a good opportunity so you can heal for longer if ur team needs it BUT ALSO dont play with like 7 ammo throughout the whole game, too much reloading is just unnecessary and every bit of healing IS important and ur just getting rid of these small ult percentage charges by reloading too much
This is what happens when you put a good player on support
Great game
Have fun with your family!
I don’t play a lot of support but why did you use ur invisible on clove before using ur ult and is switching really faster than reloading is it worth to do it if I’m on console running with lower fps
Switching to Cloak reload ammo 😳
If I had a team like them I’d be the greatest C&D too
That first ult was questionable diving into the enemy and having to walk back and dying
does anyone know if when dagger uses her wall that gives more healing. Does teammate healing count then towards hers? because she enhanced it or something?
How come the mag your playing does ult you
80k is crazy lol good shit
Can I get that playlist 🙏
I just watched this on 2x my brain melted 😊
If anyone wants to help me out here, I couldnt quite tell why all the quick switch to cloak and back to dagger was doing. Anyone care to fill me in on the tech?
Insane.
Is it faster to double switch rather than reload?
Yeah just make it a habit to switch when your team doesn’t need healing
does stacking the cloak and dagger ultimate on top of itself do increased healing (so if you stack 2 ult movements on top of eachother 2x healing)?
Yes, damage as well
is it faster to switch to cloak than to reload normally?
no
yes it is faster by a bit, that's why kayjii does it
yes, it is
Where are the divers?
DAYUM !!!
Did you retire the mantis tho?
No, I still play her but currently my 2 go to heroes are CnD and Storm. When they’re banned I go Mantis. 😋
Bro you’re the #2 Clock and Dagger player
Wasn’t even a long game either gz!
I met someone in my ranked game throwing the game because C&D is F tier Character..
That person was incredibly stupid.
@@zs9652 It's not like low rank too it's GM 2-3 they threw the game because i pick my main
what the point of constant switching?
It auto reloads dagger when you swap and the swap is faster than the reload animation
@@cameronconely1304 now I'm curious what key or mouse button/scroll wheel would have been set for the rapid changing
Your other healer wasn't doing much
You had WAY more healing than them, and damage
I don't think I saw the other support ult nearly as much as you... and if they weren't doing dmg and getting kills... what were they doing???
If you understand how their kit works, you'll notice that CND provides a more effective way of delivering AoE healing, which helps with gaining ult more efficiently compared to InviWoman. InviWoman tho more on utility and crowd control, disrupting the enemy's positioning, which doesn't contribute as much to her ult gain.
Decent game, def not GOAT status. Upper intermediate cloak play at best.
I haven’t watched the vid yet, but I can already tell by other comments you made that you’re a middle aged white male D1 hater 😆
Damnn my highest is 67k with cloak but 80k is insane!!! Cheers🍻
Breh 80k wtf 😂😂😂 insane
Whats new in this....necros getting carried as usual
95% accuracy wow you clearly mained widow since ow1
I like your earring you look good.
Devs either need to nerf strategist ult gain and or healing overtime. Especially C&Ds.
I think the better way is to just create counters like an anti-heal character. Like the way Wolverine counters 2-tank teams. The current problem is that the current season's counters to healer ults are easily thwarted (e.g. ults that kill healers can be blocked by shield tanks or a well placed Groot wall). Nerfing heals just to address the problem of chaining healer ults I think will just lead to a different overpowered meta team comp.
@ Until anti healing is introduced if ever nerfing healing would perhaps be the best route for now. Most can still use their ability’s on top of them anyways.
But for now an entire team wailing on 1 character during C&Ds ult but can’t kill them still is absolutely insane.
They could also add more one shots to ults. Scarlet Witch could get an ult buff where the ult ignores shields protecting enemies.
Maybe also make certain ults ramp up damage if they land on enemies insides an ult aoe heal.
@@KaiserShield nah magneto can kill through the ult and he's selected damn near every match now
@ Dr Strange who’s picked even more though can just block it. And that’s assuming mags charged the thing enough to kill them.
actually insane how even people in high rank think stats matter... in a game where whole teams stand on cloak and dagger ulti for the entire duration damaging and healing everyone to even brag about your healing numbers.. stop just stop
you cant heal someone who is full health. if his healing was 40k instead of 80k that game would have gone VERY differently. From the way you talk you sound like a typical dps instalocker who just feed and blame your healers every game.
@@m1xxified yeah except when healer ulties go out the other healer ulties go out and everyone hold hands for 10 seconds sharing damage.. then bad players like you will blame adam warlock players for not having inflated healing numbers. its fine you will forever be low rank and thats ok!
@ its ok buddy. i dont need much to know you're a hardstuck gold dps instalocker. hope you will get better one day!
bro has lappy doing the sponsors for him now HOW LAZY!!!! xqcL
w gameplay
I would ban her if I were them
I heald 76k
Iv got 79k on my best this season c&d 100hrs+ lets link and see wuz good im crafty with cloak
Weak, need more ults
Not me with a 95k game. You’re not #1 broski.
cloak and dagger is so cringe she needs a nerf bad
i pray they gut this dumb character
Actually that’s 79,761 🤓 not 80,000. You sir just lied. Shame on you.
😂😂 insane tho. Gj
Wait 79 k healing per player hahaha that's standard on dia 2 lol wtf who cut such nonsense. Btw cloak doesn't bring any skill just left click 25/7
Sad human being you are
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