The good news is there is a reason. Depending on the model of the machine and how the manufacturer have the parameters set, the machines center of rotation can be in multiple locations. This is also true with the Z axis. Meaning some machines you can simply put a positive/negative value depending on the side of the tool that you are using and from the center of rotation and you've safely set the tool, and from there you can adjust accordingly. However, other machines the center of rotation is a transferred value from the machines home position. Meaning the machines "center of rotation" is at home position and must be set using this method. Also, it is good to note that once you know the distance from home location to the center of rotation you can simply save this value and each time you setup a tool use the method you describe and input your adjust as a +input / write. Thank you again for watching.
if he's just indexing the tool instead of calling it up in the MDI then this might be the reason "X1.01 measure" doesn't work, you can clearly see that the machine thinks its at T0101 even if the turret is t11 doesn't mean the control knows that
The good news is there is a reason. Depending on the model of the machine and how the manufacturer have the parameters set, the machines center of rotation can be in multiple locations. This is also true with the Z axis. Meaning some machines you can simply put a positive/negative value depending on the side of the tool that you are using and from the center of rotation and you've safely set the tool, and from there you can adjust accordingly. However, other machines the center of rotation is a transferred value from the machines home position. Meaning the machines "center of rotation" is at home position and must be set using this method. Also, it is good to note that once you know the distance from home location to the center of rotation you can simply save this value and each time you setup a tool use the method you describe and input your adjust as a +input / write. Thank you again for watching.
@@aaronrunk4209 36yrs fanuc, yasnac, fagor, tosnuc, Mazak, etc... Never recorded a tool offset in that manor, I know it works, but good lord it's complicated 🤯
@christian heidt that's a lot of experience sir and also good to know that it works at all those machines. I'll have to set it up and make a quick video showing that method. Thank you again.
I'm new and I understand little so I'm confused.....if the diameter of your hole is 1.010 inches then how can your computer say that the current tool position is over 14.804 inches away from the center???
@@mdmonroe82 first I'm super happy to hear that you're getting into the industry the good news is there's lots to learn but there's also going to be a lot of gray area on things you'll be learning on. The reason why is because the machine thinks the center of spin is at the home location when the machine is first turned on. On newer machines they are designed so that the center of spin is the is the center of the machine in the x-axis that is why mine shows a giant negative but on my newest video of setting up my new doosan you'll see that that value is completely different. I hope this helps and please feel free to reach out with more questions
@@aaronrunk4209 I appreciate that. I begged a guy to give me a chance so I'm trying to right by him and learn as fast as possible. His best guy retired and I have no one to teach me on certain machines so I appreciate any info.
@mdmonroe82 you are most welcome, and please feel free to browse through all the videos that I have. I know there's a lot there, so it can be overwhelming, but use what you can and good luck
It's wild these days setting tools. I have several machine tools in the shop from the 80's to just a couple of years old, and there just seems to be so many ways to set them up. Thanks for watching
If your machine has a single turret, and your work holding is the same with the same size boring bar. Your x location will be the same for both spindles. because they rotate on the same center line. I show this in my Haas ST-20Y video. Hope this helps, and thanks for watching
Heck yeah, that's cool. A lot of my videos are on fanuc machines, but I also cover the other machines in my shop as well, but mostly fanuc. If you ever get into cad cam software or hand programming, I have those too if you are interested. Thanks again for watching
this is a really informative video thank you for making it . a quick question however . we bought a boring bar and it is considerably longer than i believe it needs to be . the tool salesman said we could just cut it but i feel as though that's not the best way to deal with this . any information on this type of scenario?
Unless you have room to hang it out the back of the holder, cutting is your only option. We've had to do it to a few of ours. Or of course buy another, shorter, boring bar lol
When setting z you can use a tool eye/q setter or you can touch it off the face of the part just like your turning tools. Here's a video using the tool eye on this machine ua-cam.com/video/qsOkxyRLabE/v-deo.html
just type X1.01 press "MEASURE"
Thanks bro need more like you
Thanks for watching!
Why didn’t you just put X1.010 hit Measure and the machine does all the math for you on the X offset
The good news is there is a reason. Depending on the model of the machine and how the manufacturer have the parameters set, the machines center of rotation can be in multiple locations. This is also true with the Z axis. Meaning some machines you can simply put a positive/negative value depending on the side of the tool that you are using and from the center of rotation and you've safely set the tool, and from there you can adjust accordingly. However, other machines the center of rotation is a transferred value from the machines home position. Meaning the machines "center of rotation" is at home position and must be set using this method. Also, it is good to note that once you know the distance from home location to the center of rotation you can simply save this value and each time you setup a tool use the method you describe and input your adjust as a +input / write. Thank you again for watching.
if he's just indexing the tool instead of calling it up in the MDI then this might be the reason "X1.01 measure" doesn't work, you can clearly see that the machine thinks its at T0101 even if the turret is t11 doesn't mean the control knows that
Exactly what I was thinking
Why don't you press measure X1.010" ?
The good news is there is a reason. Depending on the model of the machine and how the manufacturer have the parameters set, the machines center of rotation can be in multiple locations. This is also true with the Z axis. Meaning some machines you can simply put a positive/negative value depending on the side of the tool that you are using and from the center of rotation and you've safely set the tool, and from there you can adjust accordingly. However, other machines the center of rotation is a transferred value from the machines home position. Meaning the machines "center of rotation" is at home position and must be set using this method. Also, it is good to note that once you know the distance from home location to the center of rotation you can simply save this value and each time you setup a tool use the method you describe and input your adjust as a +input / write. Thank you again for watching.
@@aaronrunk4209 36yrs fanuc, yasnac, fagor, tosnuc, Mazak, etc...
Never recorded a tool offset in that manor, I know it works, but good lord it's complicated 🤯
@christian heidt that's a lot of experience sir and also good to know that it works at all those machines. I'll have to set it up and make a quick video showing that method. Thank you again.
@@aaronrunk4209 thx to you as well!
I'm new and I understand little so I'm confused.....if the diameter of your hole is 1.010 inches then how can your computer say that the current tool position is over 14.804 inches away from the center???
@@mdmonroe82 first I'm super happy to hear that you're getting into the industry the good news is there's lots to learn but there's also going to be a lot of gray area on things you'll be learning on. The reason why is because the machine thinks the center of spin is at the home location when the machine is first turned on. On newer machines they are designed so that the center of spin is the is the center of the machine in the x-axis that is why mine shows a giant negative but on my newest video of setting up my new doosan you'll see that that value is completely different. I hope this helps and please feel free to reach out with more questions
@@aaronrunk4209 I appreciate that. I begged a guy to give me a chance so I'm trying to right by him and learn as fast as possible. His best guy retired and I have no one to teach me on certain machines so I appreciate any info.
@mdmonroe82 you are most welcome, and please feel free to browse through all the videos that I have. I know there's a lot there, so it can be overwhelming, but use what you can and good luck
Whatever works for you. The controller will do the math for you using the X measure function. I agree.
It's wild these days setting tools. I have several machine tools in the shop from the 80's to just a couple of years old, and there just seems to be so many ways to set them up. Thanks for watching
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Now say we are doing this on a Tsunami. And we need to find x on the sub spindle side. How do we do that?
If your machine has a single turret, and your work holding is the same with the same size boring bar. Your x location will be the same for both spindles. because they rotate on the same center line. I show this in my Haas ST-20Y video. Hope this helps, and thanks for watching
I'm currently working on a 3" Tees on a JohnFord (Fanuc) cnc lathe
Heck yeah, that's cool. A lot of my videos are on fanuc machines, but I also cover the other machines in my shop as well, but mostly fanuc. If you ever get into cad cam software or hand programming, I have those too if you are interested. Thanks again for watching
Can you do a video on how to set up a drill? I seen it do with a piece of paper, t010 and Z0
Hello, thank you for watching my video. Here is my video for setting up an insert drill
ua-cam.com/video/MrNFFodHbvo/v-deo.htmlsi=PhrOImj9IaSRZpF2
Great video!
Thank you for watching!
this is a really informative video thank you for making it . a quick question however . we bought a boring bar and it is considerably longer than i believe it needs to be . the tool salesman said we could just cut it but i feel as though that's not the best way to deal with this . any information on this type of scenario?
Unless you have room to hang it out the back of the holder, cutting is your only option. We've had to do it to a few of ours. Or of course buy another, shorter, boring bar lol
Good information
Thank you for watching
sorry to ask sir , how to find z axis ?
When setting z you can use a tool eye/q setter or you can touch it off the face of the part just like your turning tools. Here's a video using the tool eye on this machine ua-cam.com/video/qsOkxyRLabE/v-deo.html