Thanks for the great info! I came across this video when trying to dial back a fade. Flattened my lie, added back some loft, and moved the weight to neutral (from draw) and I’m hitting them straight and 20-30 yards further with an occasional bias towards a fade.
I love adjustable drivers. I got fit to rad with weight forward and turned loft up. But struggled with fave control,after making improvements to my swing swapped weight around but lowered loft as I finally started to hit it high
I’m genuinely surprised some clubs still don’t have adjustable hosels. I know it’s usually a weight and CG thing but the added versatility can’t be overstated, especially for us amateurs trying to make subtle or big swing changes. Adjustable hosels may allow you to continue to use that club moving forward instead of having something that no longer fits.
Just bought a new 5 wood today, and I didn't even consider the clubs without adjustments. TM and Callaway were just out. Ended up with a Cobra LTDX, cant wait to give it a go on the course. Had a great fitting which was really informative, after my first fitting (with this simulator tech) recently just didn't sit right with me in terms of the output. Wish there was stores like 2nd Swing in my country :D
I classify myself as a semi-intelligent man but my brain melts when I try to understand the mechanics of how adjustable hosels can change loft, lie, and face angle haha
I think it basically just opens and closes the club face. From neutral. If you hit with a closed face at impact you’re naturally de lofting the clubs and you’ll hit more stingers. Open face you’re skying the ball. Had a lesson and that’s what I understood of it. He showed me on a wedge and it was easy to understand when I saw it that way
Think of it more like the club and the shaft are not in perfect alignment, there's a slight angle. As you make the adjustments the handle turns in a circle which means you make your adjustment to make the club face point to the target, it changes the loft. I know that may not make sense but just know that the club face and shaft are not perfectly straight and have a slight offset.
I just got fitted for a cobra ltdx at a major retailer and it was a bad idea. Go to 2nd swing guys. Anyway I typically tee the ball high and the fitter didn't want me to. I had bad ball flights but wanted the driver. I was still in the fairway though. Anyway I play in the simulators regularly and the tee was higher there and I adjusted my driver 1 degree stronger and I was bombing shots. So sometimes you do have to adjust the driver to how you want it and not the fitter wants it. That cobra is a monster though. And at better prices than the bigger names.
I have a Tour Edge EXS Pro driver I'd like to get a new shaft for. It has an adjustable hosel and I don't even know where to start lol. Bought it second hand. There was no fitting procedure.
How do you explain the taylormade adapter which goes more upright no matter what adjustments you make, so in lower setting it’s actually more upright than the standard setting. So why would lowering the loft not open face when it’s actually more upright?
@@hansidelk6604 That isn't true at all. Look at the tuning chart on Taylormade's website. From standard setting (56* lie) to UPRT setting (60* lie), you have a difference of 4* in lie angle.
About the Callaway..did it make sense there when he said that the draw setting makes the club more upright and that this can cause a fade? It made me a bit confused since I own this driver and I’m sometimes fighting a fade and wanna change it
I think if you increase the loft (say,from 10.5 to 11.5) on a callaway shaft hosel, and keep the other setting at “standard”, then you decrease draw bias. At least, that is what I was told. I have a bit of a draw bias naturally and dialed it up a degree to reduce draw, but haven’t tested that change yet. So, I also think the way he described it was a bit confusing.
Hi, I have a Titleist ts2 8.5 driver. I need more spin and height. I only have a 87 mph swing with an upward angle of attack around 2 degrees. Which setting will help me the most . I normally hit a small fade
Firstly that loft seems low for that swing speed and you are likely losing distance compared to a club correctly lofted for your speed, I would guess around 12 degree would suit 'best'. This will of course naturally increase height and spin. Once you got the correct degree of loft only then would I fine tune it. Fine tuning an 8.5 to get what you want just seems like a losing battle tbh, youll be compromising too much just get what a higher lofted driver would give by default.
I am a high speed slicer. If have heard that putting left handed hosels I can simultaneously reduce loft and close the head. Is that true? How does that work?
I hit my driver better b4 it was adjustable….my current driver is the first ever adjustable for me.. I doubt that my next driver will b adjustable…time for a new one this spring/summer
@@jimaverill1659 Well Jim over the years the most consistent driver for me was the Ping G20 which I had from around 2012 until 2017 when I went with a Callaway XR which has the adjustable hosel. About a year ago I used a loaner set when away that had a Ping G20 driver and immediately I realized the Ping just felt better. I'm going to replace the XR this year and plan to test the Ping G410, which has an adjustable hosel. I may end up going to ebay and look for an old G20. the adjustable hosels always leave me wondering if I have it at the best setting. Also, with my current Callaway XR if I set it to Draw for some reason I get a fade....or worse.
@@JJones987 I had the Callaway XR but mine wasn’t adjustable I loved and I didn’t replace until the head cracked and force me too…so I replaced it with a Callaway Rouge not nearly as happy. Seriously, I will try the Ping. I’m replacing everything and I can’t wait to hit the M Pro 223….
For adjustable hosels… aren’t you supposed to resquare the face? Otherwise it’s the same loft you just opened or close the face. Titleist site even has an * for “effective loft if square at impact” Also taylormade standard is already flatter than most other drivers. You can go at stated loft from 56 or 60* lie. Just look at their adapter chart.
Thanks for the great info! I came across this video when trying to dial back a fade. Flattened my lie, added back some loft, and moved the weight to neutral (from draw) and I’m hitting them straight and 20-30 yards further with an occasional bias towards a fade.
We love to see it!!!
I love adjustable drivers. I got fit to rad with weight forward and turned loft up. But struggled with fave control,after making improvements to my swing swapped weight around but lowered loft as I finally started to hit it high
I’m genuinely surprised some clubs still don’t have adjustable hosels. I know it’s usually a weight and CG thing but the added versatility can’t be overstated, especially for us amateurs trying to make subtle or big swing changes. Adjustable hosels may allow you to continue to use that club moving forward instead of having something that no longer fits.
It’s typically a cost savings measure
Just bought a new 5 wood today, and I didn't even consider the clubs without adjustments. TM and Callaway were just out. Ended up with a Cobra LTDX, cant wait to give it a go on the course. Had a great fitting which was really informative, after my first fitting (with this simulator tech) recently just didn't sit right with me in terms of the output. Wish there was stores like 2nd Swing in my country :D
Great explanation, thank you..👍
I classify myself as a semi-intelligent man but my brain melts when I try to understand the mechanics of how adjustable hosels can change loft, lie, and face angle haha
check out mobile club maker - he's done a good video on this
Same here, if things get that bad I'll just go get fitted and have a professional do it for me lol
I think it basically just opens and closes the club face. From neutral. If you hit with a closed face at impact you’re naturally de lofting the clubs and you’ll hit more stingers. Open face you’re skying the ball. Had a lesson and that’s what I understood of it. He showed me on a wedge and it was easy to understand when I saw it that way
Think of it more like the club and the shaft are not in perfect alignment, there's a slight angle. As you make the adjustments the handle turns in a circle which means you make your adjustment to make the club face point to the target, it changes the loft. I know that may not make sense but just know that the club face and shaft are not perfectly straight and have a slight offset.
@@ktms1188 thanks man that explanation is the best I’ve heard yet.
I just got fitted for a cobra ltdx at a major retailer and it was a bad idea. Go to 2nd swing guys. Anyway I typically tee the ball high and the fitter didn't want me to. I had bad ball flights but wanted the driver. I was still in the fairway though. Anyway I play in the simulators regularly and the tee was higher there and I adjusted my driver 1 degree stronger and I was bombing shots. So sometimes you do have to adjust the driver to how you want it and not the fitter wants it. That cobra is a monster though. And at better prices than the bigger names.
I have a Tour Edge EXS Pro driver I'd like to get a new shaft for. It has an adjustable hosel and I don't even know where to start lol. Bought it second hand. There was no fitting procedure.
How do you explain the taylormade adapter which goes more upright no matter what adjustments you make, so in lower setting it’s actually more upright than the standard setting. So why would lowering the loft not open face when it’s actually more upright?
You only change loft and face angle on TM driver. Not lie.
@@hansidelk6604 That isn't true at all. Look at the tuning chart on Taylormade's website. From standard setting (56* lie) to UPRT setting (60* lie), you have a difference of 4* in lie angle.
About the Callaway..did it make sense there when he said that the draw setting makes the club more upright and that this can cause a fade? It made me a bit confused since I own this driver and I’m sometimes fighting a fade and wanna change it
I think if you increase the loft (say,from 10.5 to 11.5) on a callaway shaft hosel, and keep the other setting at “standard”, then you decrease draw bias. At least, that is what I was told. I have a bit of a draw bias naturally and dialed it up a degree to reduce draw, but haven’t tested that change yet. So, I also think the way he described it was a bit confusing.
What are the ideal numbers on launch monitor , I read up 9-12 on my driver. Should I adjust it to a flat lie
Hi, I have a Titleist ts2 8.5 driver. I need more spin and height. I only have a 87 mph swing with an upward angle of attack around 2 degrees. Which setting will help me the most . I normally hit a small fade
Firstly that loft seems low for that swing speed and you are likely losing distance compared to a club correctly lofted for your speed, I would guess around 12 degree would suit 'best'. This will of course naturally increase height and spin. Once you got the correct degree of loft only then would I fine tune it.
Fine tuning an 8.5 to get what you want just seems like a losing battle tbh, youll be compromising too much just get what a higher lofted driver would give by default.
@@User_on_UA-cam_1 Thanks for the info Wayne .
I am a high speed slicer. If have heard that putting left handed hosels I can simultaneously reduce loft and close the head. Is that true? How does that work?
Definitely shouldn't do that. The hosel is more for small adjustments. You're better off fixing your swing for the long run.
I was playing with a guy recently that was changing his setting on driver every hole, it was so annoying! Best part, I don’t think he hit one fairway!
Should have assessed him a penalty stroke every time he did it 😂
@@2ndswing no kidding! 😂😂😂
@@dmkfactor1721 lmao
I wish the 460 cc head volume was adjustable :)
I hit my driver better b4 it was adjustable….my current driver is the first ever adjustable for me..
I doubt that my next driver will b adjustable…time for a new one this spring/summer
Go with a Ping
@@JJones987 I have a couple of different drivers I plan to test what model of Ping do you have in mind? Thanks
@@jimaverill1659 Well Jim over the years the most consistent driver for me was the Ping G20 which I had from around 2012 until 2017 when I went with a Callaway XR which has the adjustable hosel. About a year ago I used a loaner set when away that had a Ping G20 driver and immediately I realized the Ping just felt better. I'm going to replace the XR this year and plan to test the Ping G410, which has an adjustable hosel. I may end up going to ebay and look for an old G20. the adjustable hosels always leave me wondering if I have it at the best setting. Also, with my current Callaway XR if I set it to Draw for some reason I get a fade....or worse.
@@JJones987 I had the Callaway XR but mine wasn’t adjustable I loved and I didn’t replace until the head cracked and force me too…so I replaced it with a Callaway Rouge not nearly as happy. Seriously, I will try the Ping. I’m replacing everything and I can’t wait to hit the M Pro 223….
I personally won’t make a change unless it’s my coach doing it for me!
To my understanding, more upright would assist going left and not right
Correct - adjusting the lie angle more upright will also slightly close the face
I thought the video was going to show someone hitting a Driver with multiple settings and seeing the results ball flights.
Am I crazy? If you add 1 to -9 isn’t that -8? And if you subtract 1 that’s -10? Why is it the opposite?
It’s not -9. It’s 9.
The head is only one component the shaft is still the engine
Wtf is up with that man’s pants 👖?!
For adjustable hosels… aren’t you supposed to resquare the face? Otherwise it’s the same loft you just opened or close the face. Titleist site even has an * for “effective loft if square at impact”
Also taylormade standard is already flatter than most other drivers. You can go at stated loft from 56 or 60* lie. Just look at their adapter chart.
Regardless of the setting on my driver , there is no bloody difference whatsoever!!!!! It’s a scam!!
This guy’s terrible 😢