Hey man. I'm on day 49 off suboxone and all substances. Been on and off suboxone for 20 years and been a poly-substance addict. I started documenting my attempts to get clean a year ago and have finally done it. I pray on my knees when I wake up and before I go to sleep - this is something I began doing out of sincere curiousity and desperation a few months ago. I have guys in a recovery community I talk with daily - we watch out for each other and care. I could not do this alone. I'll check your music out. I'm also a musician - just at home with my loop station - but it"s part of my recovery and I play everyday. Take care man - I know the pain. There is a better life on the other side of the necessary suffering it takes to get through this. I'm still a bit of a rollercoaster but stabilizing and those around me are noticing. My hands and armpits have ceased constant sweating, body temp normal, clothes dont hurt anymore and stomach is improving. Peace. You can do this - but may need help.
Don’t be so hard on yourself, you’re doing an amazing job; anyone who knows the horrors of opiates will understand how difficult it is to get to where you’re at and to stick with it despite the withdrawals etc. As bad as you may feel rn, I hope you can recognise how far you’ve come and how strong you are. Things will get better. Stick with it. We’re rooting for you 🙏🏼💖
I have a cousin who reduced his dose so low (0.2mg) it wouldn't even have a real effect, but when he didn't take it he would have withdrawal symptoms. Anyway, I do think you are going about things in the wrong way when it comes to waiting until you feel better to start working. It is work that will make you feel better, both because it will fill your time and attention with positive actions, plus when you are more self sufficient and making money you will feel a lot better. Keeping busy with positive actions and stability is so important for sobriety,
I'm planning on going to work as soon as I can. I need to financially. But I have to wait for this claim to go through so I can be paid for the past 3 months. If that doesn't happen I'm gonna be in a world of trouble. But I agree with you. Thanks for the feedback.
On the same mission my friend. It's funny to hear 4mg every two days or 1/4th a day because that really is the lowest dose to stay manageable. Thank you for being honest & sharing your emotions with us, its not easy to come out & say you're not okay, but you have a great understanding of yourself & your environment around you which I believe will lead you to success. You're not alone, you're worth something, people like me need people like you in the world, and vice versa for us to prosper, wishing the best for you bud! Please keep posting
Glad to hear from you man. Im rooting for ya. The tapering is def a more practical approach especially because you have to still participate in the chores and tasks of life. It def sounds bleak for ya at this moment...i hope you have a friend or some family IRL that could help you in the ways you need. This is definitely some hardcore tough reality to go through completely alone. You may not be religious but im praying for you. I know when i was down at my deepest hell i literally asked God (and i was an atheist at the time) to either kill me or give me some way forward... and He gave me a way forward, and has continued to do so. Just wanted to share that. For what its worth. Your efforts are not vain!!! 💪 👑 🙏
Appreciate your honesty and sharing your experiences. You’re being so strong 💪 and your taper is a huge positive move. So sorry to hear that your insurance pooped out and you have to face this by yourself without any medical care to support you. That’s just wrong. But you’re being resilient and self reliant and just know that that your yt viewers notice that and are pulling for you. I know I am. Best wishes to you!❤❤❤
Personally I think working out at home, doing bodyweight exercises everyday and creating a list of short and long terms goals and how you will achieve them will allow you to deal with your depression and anxiety. Look i have been depressed since i was 15, you realize life is pointless. but training saved me and now, im very happy. I reached my training goals, training is a huge part of my life still 12 years later. but also, its given me the confidence and ability to go forward and complete a degree and now apply to law school. If i am going to miserable, i will at least be rich and miserable. any man will become depressed when he has no direction in life, plus training will stimulate your bodies natural chemical release that will combat the anxiety and depression. Which in turn will take the edge off of your cravings for opiates. anyways, dont quit my friend. fight till the death
Life isn’t pointless, you might not be able to control much, but your perspective on life can make things much easier. Nihilism is not healthy. I’m glad you found exercising though, it dbapsi encourage looking into longevity sub reddits to put you in peak health and extend your life- perhaps even reverse aging . But yeah man plenty of meaning in life you care to look, read some of the philosophers that rebelled against the enlightenment. Nihilism is just a stage of development- mostly for young people - read Piaget , Maslow - levels of thought vids on UA-cam
I agree with you completely. I think about working out multiple times a day, every single day. Just haven't been able to pull the trigger yet. The depression I have right now is keeping me frozen in place. It's horrific. I appreciate your feedback and support very much!
I am 8 ½ months off methadone. I tapered off in 3 months or so. The first 90 days were physically tough. The next phase will be the sleep and anxiety thats the most prominent. You can do this. Hooe you are okay
I have been on suboxone now subutex for 20 years ! Im 60 years old ! And dont want to go through the withdrawal! I was off them 1time for 6 months! Felt like shit ! And didnt shit right for 6 months ! Water is all ill say ! Wish you the best man hope you do it ! God bless bro
Oh yea I heard that's brutal. I detoxed heroin cold turkey in 2016 but I heard suboxone is worse. Take alot of showers, pray to the water and sing really loud.
Instead of setting timelines of when you will lower the dose. Listen to your body. When you start feeling normal with your current dose, then go down more
take it slow... it's better to do it slow over like 2 years then fast and struggle. Exercise, ride stationary and sweat a ton, stretch for 30 minutes after etc. Go for long walks.
I'm working on that stuff. I know it will help but it's hard to do. I also wanted to get this done super quick, but it's clear that it's gonna take patience. I appreciate the feedback. Best wishes to you!
Your clearly a thinking, feeling, human being, so celebrate that because a lot of people aren't. Maybe now its partly about developing enough of a shell around yourself to navigate the world without loosing whats underneath too much. There are a few more natural ways to alter brain chemistry if necessary. (non illicit) Some quite effective. Dopa Macuna for example. Like where I am (England) its not very sunny where you live, so your probably low on Vitamin D, which might contribute to any general feeling of being run down. Good luck anyway. (I had top come off a load of different pharmaceuticals a few years ago and it was no joke.)🙂
I do take a vitamin d supplement but it's definitely not enough. The winters here in western New York absolutely slaughter my morale and motivation. I appreciate the feedback and comment. Best wishes to you .
@@bloodyzebbidy I've actually been in a bit of a grunge phase recently. Revisiting all of the classic stuff from the early 90s. A lot of Soundgarden and alice in chains. How about you?
Hey man. I'm on day 49 off suboxone and all substances. Been on and off suboxone for 20 years and been a poly-substance addict. I started documenting my attempts to get clean a year ago and have finally done it. I pray on my knees when I wake up and before I go to sleep - this is something I began doing out of sincere curiousity and desperation a few months ago. I have guys in a recovery community I talk with daily - we watch out for each other and care. I could not do this alone. I'll check your music out. I'm also a musician - just at home with my loop station - but it"s part of my recovery and I play everyday. Take care man - I know the pain. There is a better life on the other side of the necessary suffering it takes to get through this. I'm still a bit of a rollercoaster but stabilizing and those around me are noticing. My hands and armpits have ceased constant sweating, body temp normal, clothes dont hurt anymore and stomach is improving. Peace. You can do this - but may need help.
I'm extremely happy to hear that you made it and are doing so good. That's incredibly inspiring. Thank you for sharing and best wishes to you!
Massive respect brother! Wise and strong! Sending love and prayers from Denmark! Keep it up man, you can do this!
Thank you so much!!
Don’t be so hard on yourself, you’re doing an amazing job; anyone who knows the horrors of opiates will understand how difficult it is to get to where you’re at and to stick with it despite the withdrawals etc. As bad as you may feel rn, I hope you can recognise how far you’ve come and how strong you are.
Things will get better.
Stick with it. We’re rooting for you 🙏🏼💖
Thanks so much for the kind words. Means a lot to me.
Keep going ! The self awareness, honesty and commitment is really something you should be proud of. Rooting for you
I appreciate that so much. Thank you!
I have a cousin who reduced his dose so low (0.2mg) it wouldn't even have a real effect, but when he didn't take it he would have withdrawal symptoms.
Anyway, I do think you are going about things in the wrong way when it comes to waiting until you feel better to start working. It is work that will make you feel better, both because it will fill your time and attention with positive actions, plus when you are more self sufficient and making money you will feel a lot better. Keeping busy with positive actions and stability is so important for sobriety,
I'm planning on going to work as soon as I can. I need to financially. But I have to wait for this claim to go through so I can be paid for the past 3 months. If that doesn't happen I'm gonna be in a world of trouble. But I agree with you. Thanks for the feedback.
Hang in there big dawg, we're rooting for you.
Appreciate you.
On the same mission my friend. It's funny to hear 4mg every two days or 1/4th a day because that really is the lowest dose to stay manageable. Thank you for being honest & sharing your emotions with us, its not easy to come out & say you're not okay, but you have a great understanding of yourself & your environment around you which I believe will lead you to success. You're not alone, you're worth something, people like me need people like you in the world, and vice versa for us to prosper, wishing the best for you bud! Please keep posting
Appreciate the kind words. Best of luck to you. Hang in there!
U got this bro it feels like hell while your going thru it but the freedom at the end will be so worth it
That's what I think too. Thank you.
Glad to hear from you man. Im rooting for ya. The tapering is def a more practical approach especially because you have to still participate in the chores and tasks of life.
It def sounds bleak for ya at this moment...i hope you have a friend or some family IRL that could help you in the ways you need.
This is definitely some hardcore tough reality to go through completely alone.
You may not be religious but im praying for you. I know when i was down at my deepest hell i literally asked God (and i was an atheist at the time) to either kill me or give me some way forward... and He gave me a way forward, and has continued to do so. Just wanted to share that. For what its worth. Your efforts are not vain!!! 💪 👑 🙏
Appreciate the prayers and kind words. Best wishes to you.
I don't know why this was recommended to me on my YT front page, but good luck with the challenges ahead!
Appreciate it!
Just randomly came across your video. Good job man, keep going! You can do it
Thank you very much.
Appreciate your honesty and sharing your experiences. You’re being so strong 💪 and your taper is a huge positive move. So sorry to hear that your insurance pooped out and you have to face this by yourself without any medical care to support you. That’s just wrong. But you’re being resilient and self reliant and just know that that your yt viewers notice that and are pulling for you. I know I am. Best wishes to you!❤❤❤
I appreciate the support more than you know. Thank you for the kind words.
Weed gummies helped me a lot when I had to get off sub I don’t think I could have done it without something to take the edge off.Good luck.
I've thought about but haven't been able to get out of the house just yet. Maybe this week.
The physical part definitely sucks but the hard part for me is the mental aspects of quitting! The mental part and especially anxiety for me gets bad
Agree, that's been setting in in a major way and it's very hard to deal with. And it seems it will last a long time. Appreciate the comment.
im proud of u bro
Thank you.
Stay strong you're doing great bro. I gotta start doing the same soon
Thank you. You can do it!
Personally I think working out at home, doing bodyweight exercises everyday and creating a list of short and long terms goals and how you will achieve them will allow you to deal with your depression and anxiety. Look i have been depressed since i was 15, you realize life is pointless. but training saved me and now, im very happy. I reached my training goals, training is a huge part of my life still 12 years later. but also, its given me the confidence and ability to go forward and complete a degree and now apply to law school.
If i am going to miserable, i will at least be rich and miserable.
any man will become depressed when he has no direction in life, plus training will stimulate your bodies natural chemical release that will combat the anxiety and depression.
Which in turn will take the edge off of your cravings for opiates.
anyways, dont quit my friend. fight till the death
Life isn’t pointless, you might not be able to control much, but your perspective on life can make things much easier. Nihilism is not healthy.
I’m glad you found exercising though, it dbapsi encourage looking into longevity sub reddits to put you in peak health and extend your life- perhaps even reverse aging .
But yeah man plenty of meaning in life you care to look, read some of the philosophers that rebelled against the enlightenment. Nihilism is just a stage of development- mostly for young people - read Piaget , Maslow - levels of thought vids on UA-cam
I agree with you completely. I think about working out multiple times a day, every single day. Just haven't been able to pull the trigger yet. The depression I have right now is keeping me frozen in place. It's horrific.
I appreciate your feedback and support very much!
I am 8 ½ months off methadone. I tapered off in 3 months or so. The first 90 days were physically tough. The next phase will be the sleep and anxiety thats the most prominent. You can do this. Hooe you are okay
i think lowering the dosage instead of reducing your frequency of taking it is probably the way to go man, but that's just my opinion.
all the best!
I agree. That's my plan moving forward. Thanks for the feedback.
I have been on suboxone now subutex for 20 years ! Im 60 years old ! And dont want to go through the withdrawal! I was off them 1time for 6 months! Felt like shit ! And didnt shit right for 6 months ! Water is all ill say ! Wish you the best man hope you do it ! God bless bro
I'm in Western New York. I hope the best for you. Thanks for the feedback.
Not nearly the same @ u but I quit cannabis cold turkey 10 months ago after 14 years of daily super heavy use.
Congrats on that, that's huge. Hope you can stay on the right track.
Oh yea I heard that's brutal. I detoxed heroin cold turkey in 2016 but I heard suboxone is worse. Take alot of showers, pray to the water and sing really loud.
I'm working on all of the above. Appreciate the feedback. Best wishes.
Instead of setting timelines of when you will lower the dose. Listen to your body. When you start feeling normal with your current dose, then go down more
That's kind of what I'm doing. Seems like the best way. Appreciate the comment.
Keep fighting man
Will do, thank you!
lookin good brodie
Thanks!
take it slow... it's better to do it slow over like 2 years then fast and struggle. Exercise, ride stationary and sweat a ton, stretch for 30 minutes after etc. Go for long walks.
I'm working on that stuff. I know it will help but it's hard to do. I also wanted to get this done super quick, but it's clear that it's gonna take patience. I appreciate the feedback. Best wishes to you!
Your clearly a thinking, feeling, human being, so celebrate that because a lot of people aren't. Maybe now its partly about developing enough of a shell around yourself to navigate the world without loosing whats underneath too much. There are a few more natural ways to alter brain chemistry if necessary. (non illicit) Some quite effective. Dopa Macuna for example. Like where I am (England) its not very sunny where you live, so your probably low on Vitamin D, which might contribute to any general feeling of being run down. Good luck anyway. (I had top come off a load of different pharmaceuticals a few years ago and it was no joke.)🙂
I do take a vitamin d supplement but it's definitely not enough. The winters here in western New York absolutely slaughter my morale and motivation. I appreciate the feedback and comment. Best wishes to you .
@@codeezie Be spring soon enough. Do you listen to much music?
@@bloodyzebbidy absolutely! Music is a huge part of my life. Couldn't live without it.
And yes, thank God. The winter is brutal.
What have you been listening to recently?@@codeezie
@@bloodyzebbidy I've actually been in a bit of a grunge phase recently. Revisiting all of the classic stuff from the early 90s. A lot of Soundgarden and alice in chains. How about you?
What works best for you.
you should get some mushrooms
Honestly, I would if I could! Haven't taken them in well over a decade. I bet they would help.