So the crew understands data takes things literally because he's an android and it's not his fault, but still gets angry at him when he does exactly that. Every part of that exchange between him and crusher and the events leading up to it make that a perfectly valid response.
This has to be one of the most infuriating scenes in Star Trek, it was funny, I was completely taken aback when nobody laughed, i was expecting a pause of silence, then laughter. Why is it okay to do it to Worf, but not Crusher? And the way Geordie reacts, honestly what I dont even.
Yeah, its like Anita Sarkeesian took over the world Yeah, you can laugh at the man falling down, but laugh at the woman and you're in jail for 50 years
Anita terrifies you so much you're going to blame her for a script written by MEN back in 1994? lol, pathetic. If anything, the idea that a woman can't handle being pushed overboard is a patriarchal one, which women like Sarkeesian actively fight against. What this scene is doing in a Star Trek film is beyond me.
It's just a classically botched scene; the idea was clearly to demonstrate that Data's still "not quite human" for plot purposes, but the actual script they followed to get there produced a ridiculous and confusing non sequitur instead of a meaningful plot gesture. My guess? It was a huge PITA to shoot on that rented naval brig and so they rushed through. This is supported by the fact that the only other shot on the sailing ship has "Spot" randomly and gratuitously scene stealing (out of joint with the rest of the film) but they kept it anyway for lack of a better take.
As she said, it wasn't in the spirit of things. Worf fell into the water because of a mistake in the Holodeck making the plank disappear instead of just retract. Data just pushed Crusher into the water. It probably would have been funny if it was fitting to what they were doing, but as is Data just made a mistake. The scene could be funny to us, but not to the characters. Although Worf falling back into the water was quite amusing.
I still love the exchange right before this... Riker: "Computer...remove the plank!" (Worf drops) Picard: "Number One, that's "retract the plank", not "remove the plank"." Riker (nods): "Of course, sir." (to Worf) "Sorry!"
I think data nailed it. It was deadpan and unexpected and even had the unintended benefit of knocking Worf back into the water at the same time. If i was therr it'd be all i could do to stifle and muffle my laughter so as not to appear sadistic lol I think it was just a weak script which shoehorned the need for Data to use his emotion chip. Data has been around humans and other species to know humous. In cause and effect on thr show he uses humour to taunt Worf when dealing thr cards saying something like "four of hearts, no help for the klingon there" as he gets into the spirit of the group, much to Worfs irritation.
+tysswe1 I know! I don't get the difference. Seems mean either way, I mean Beverley was practically asking for it with that lame excuse of why it was funny to dunk worf.
So Beverly is not allowed to be pushed in the water? Just other people but not her, because it's not funny if it's Beverly? Wow, what a double standard.
As an autistic person, I feel you Data. When someone does something people find funny, I pick up on that, but when I do the exact same thing, everyone looks at me as I just confessed to murder.
The stuntwoman who falled in the water is Patricia Tallman ... more known as Lyta Alexander in Babylon 5. And she was pregnant! She played _eight_ minor characters in the three modern Star Trek series besides being stunt-double for Gates McFadden, Nana Visitor and several others.
@Hannodb1961 she is talking to a robot that has no understanding of humor, whose primary means of understanding human behavior is copying everything he sees.... while standing with her back to the water after someone just fell in and was laughed at for it.... naw, I don’t know how you could think that she would see that coming!
They KNOW his limitations and he didn't actually cause any harm. They shouldn't have been so hard on him. And he pretty much did what they did to Worf, which everyone thought was funny. I understand they needed an impetus to get him to want to put in the emotion chip, but was a bit clumsily done.
@FMcD I believe that water on the holodeck is real. There's an early episode where Wesley and a friend walk off the holodeck soaking wet. They had been playing in the snow, I think. So, no, Crusher wouldn't have been to breathe underwater.
hahahaha!!! Date and Dr.Crusher are my favorite characters, and this is hilarious!! She does seem a little bitchy here, though. If I had been the one Data had pushed in, I would've been haughing from the moment I came back to the top!
I think also the highly sensitive Beverly was shoved and she tumbled legs upward head first into the water while Worf just fell feet down into the water from an expected prank from Riker. And no one shoved Worf; he just had the plank he was on removed. In any case, the scene was hilarious. I am sure later on maybe a few weeks later, Beverly quietly found humor in it.
In Encounter at Farpoint Wesley fell into water on the holodeck and was still dripping wet when exited. I think the water is replicated rather than a holographic projection.
Data pushes Dr.Crusher in the water is my favorite part of the movie I even told Gates when I met her. She told me it took two takes to do. Gates is also a sweetheart she took the time to talk to her fans
Did she tell you she wasn't the one who went into the water? Patricia Tallman aka Lyta Alexander from B5 was her stunt double and took the fall for her. Watch the clip carefully at a slow speed and you'll see. Also Ms. Tallman confirmed it.
The Rifftrax to this movie is great! "The Prime Directive of Star Trek should be to never do comedy." lol. But, in all seriousness, im a big Trek fan not here to bash...it was just funny.
That wasnt Gates McFadden that went for a dip but Patricia Tallman who is probably better know from her babylon 5 stint as Lita. She's done a lot of stunts on various star trek shows.
lol They couldn't have picked a more perfect stunt double. Patrica Tallman looks spot on like Gates McFadden. lol...and just 3 years later she's knocked out by Austin Powers.
I never understood why it's funny to get Worf wet, but not Bev. I mean he technically did the same thing to her, which they did to Worf. Where's the difference? I laughed. Don't listen to them Data, you're funny as hell! :D
So basically, when stuff happens to guy = funny, when happens to Women, not fun, all that time, all those hours of makeup. Hurray for feminism in the 24th century lol
Actually, the idea that a woman can't handle being pushed overboard is a patriarchal one, which feminists have always actively fought against. What this scene is doing in a Star Trek (where sexism is supposedly a thing of the past) is beyond me.
Ah, the good ole days of early 90s sexism against men, combining the worst of both traditionalism and upstart feminism. It is practically intended by the filmmakers to be taken as granted that a brute of a man/Klingon such as Worf would be fair target for all sorts of mockery and abuse, not to mention emasculation, but that a hypocritical spoiled little princess such as Dr. Crusher would be off totally limits.
Wait a second, when women exhibit misogyny it's ''internalized oppression'' (from men, of course) but when men exhibit misandry, it's ''blame it all on men.'' I see how this works.
SerbAtheist You seem to be reading too much into my comment and looking for something to overreact to. I was saying it was poor writing and observing how ironic it was that the writers happened to be men. But since you brought it up: When women exhibit misogyny it's internalized misogyny, and when men exhibit misandry, it's (say it with me) internalized misandry. I don't know how you think this clip is representative of feminist views. Most of us would agree what Data did was pretty funny and the rest of the crew were being humorless. In fact treating women as if they were humorless princesses would be considered pretty sexist *against* women in the first place. The writers went about it in an idiotic way
SerbAtheist I think you totally misunderstand the situation, the reason it is ok to throw Worf in the water is because HE is the one getting promoted, therefore he can expect taunts, as would any other officer, male or female. When Data pushes Dr. Crusher in the others think it isn't funny because Data misunderstand why the situation is funny, Worf gets a reward and with that comes some ribbing, Dr. Crusher is not being promoted, and is thus not open for the same kind of "fun". We, the audience thinks it's fun, because Data misunderstands the situation.
The writing on this show was just amazing at times. Also look at the clip where Data critiques Picard’s painting skills. ua-cam.com/video/koPSfN06gqo/v-deo.html
the irony is data attempt to be funny by pushing her off the ship in which no one there thought it was funny . the ironic thing is is data was not attemptimg to be funny he was funny
Geordi is wrong, that was hilarious.
AGREE
0:32
I laugh so hard
It so was
I don't know about everyone else, but I think it is hilarious.
+AndroidsDreamofElectricSheep _ Hi Vorik.
I laughed to where I fell over so its not just you
So the crew understands data takes things literally because he's an android and it's not his fault, but still gets angry at him when he does exactly that. Every part of that exchange between him and crusher and the events leading up to it make that a perfectly valid response.
welcome to ASD people
Seriously!?! I laugh my ass off every time I watch this, especially when Worf gets taken out as he's climbing back up!
This has to be one of the most infuriating scenes in Star Trek, it was funny, I was completely taken aback when nobody laughed, i was expecting a pause of silence, then laughter. Why is it okay to do it to Worf, but not Crusher? And the way Geordie reacts, honestly what I dont even.
Yeah, its like Anita Sarkeesian took over the world
Yeah, you can laugh at the man falling down, but laugh at the woman and you're in jail for 50 years
Anita terrifies you so much you're going to blame her for a script written by MEN back in 1994? lol, pathetic.
If anything, the idea that a woman can't handle being pushed overboard is a patriarchal one, which women like Sarkeesian actively fight against. What this scene is doing in a Star Trek film is beyond me.
I'd blame a bad script.
It's just a classically botched scene; the idea was clearly to demonstrate that Data's still "not quite human" for plot purposes, but the actual script they followed to get there produced a ridiculous and confusing non sequitur instead of a meaningful plot gesture.
My guess? It was a huge PITA to shoot on that rented naval brig and so they rushed through. This is supported by the fact that the only other shot on the sailing ship has "Spot" randomly and gratuitously scene stealing (out of joint with the rest of the film) but they kept it anyway for lack of a better take.
As she said, it wasn't in the spirit of things. Worf fell into the water because of a mistake in the Holodeck making the plank disappear instead of just retract. Data just pushed Crusher into the water. It probably would have been funny if it was fitting to what they were doing, but as is Data just made a mistake. The scene could be funny to us, but not to the characters.
Although Worf falling back into the water was quite amusing.
"Data! That was NOT FUNNY...it was HILARIOUS!"
I still love the exchange right before this...
Riker: "Computer...remove the plank!" (Worf drops)
Picard: "Number One, that's "retract the plank", not "remove the plank"."
Riker (nods): "Of course, sir." (to Worf) "Sorry!"
I think data nailed it. It was deadpan and unexpected and even had the unintended benefit of knocking Worf back into the water at the same time. If i was therr it'd be all i could do to stifle and muffle my laughter so as not to appear sadistic lol
I think it was just a weak script which shoehorned the need for Data to use his emotion chip. Data has been around humans and other species to know humous. In cause and effect on thr show he uses humour to taunt Worf when dealing thr cards saying something like "four of hearts, no help for the klingon there" as he gets into the spirit of the group, much to Worfs irritation.
Geordi has less of a sense of humor than the android. Don't worry data that was hilarious.
That was very funny...especially datas innocent smirk at the end
I think Data had actually managed to tap into his subconscious desire to punish Beverly for bringing Wesley into the world.
Yeah, fuck Wesley!
What's wrong with Wesley, anyway?
@@AndrewsLife1 He's a brat.
Cool comment! Try being funny and/or correct next time tho
Maybe now they know how worf felt about being pushed of the ship.
+tysswe1 I know! I don't get the difference. Seems mean either way, I mean Beverley was practically asking for it with that lame excuse of why it was funny to dunk worf.
As I recall he wasn't pushed though, Riker just used the wrong word to make the plank vanish.
It was pretty funny
So Beverly is not allowed to be pushed in the water? Just other people but not her, because it's not funny if it's Beverly? Wow, what a double standard.
Welcome to star fleet~
Star fleet is full of hypocrites
He should have started laughing maniacally. That would have made this even better.
Worf's grunt when Crusher hits him lmao
As an autistic person, I feel you Data.
When someone does something people find funny, I pick up on that, but when I do the exact same thing, everyone looks at me as I just confessed to murder.
The more and more Beverly talked, more and more i thought to myself «he’s gonna push her»
Still funny :)!
The stuntwoman who falled in the water is Patricia Tallman ... more known as Lyta Alexander in Babylon 5. And she was pregnant!
She played _eight_ minor characters in the three modern Star Trek series besides being stunt-double for Gates McFadden, Nana Visitor and several others.
Well, she suggested it.
I don't know why Beverley would be so annoyed as when she gets off the Holo-deck she'll be dry!
She should've seen that coming :P
@Hannodb1961 she is talking to a robot that has no understanding of humor, whose primary means of understanding human behavior is copying everything he sees.... while standing with her back to the water after someone just fell in and was laughed at for it.... naw, I don’t know how you could think that she would see that coming!
They KNOW his limitations and he didn't actually cause any harm. They shouldn't have been so hard on him. And he pretty much did what they did to Worf, which everyone thought was funny.
I understand they needed an impetus to get him to want to put in the emotion chip, but was a bit clumsily done.
@FMcD I believe that water on the holodeck is real. There's an early episode where Wesley and a friend walk off the holodeck soaking wet. They had been playing in the snow, I think.
So, no, Crusher wouldn't have been to breathe underwater.
In datas defence. You did somewhat ask him to. And you know how he is so you can’t say “I didn’t think he would take it literally”
THEY DID MY BOY SO DIRTY! You did well Data, that was so fucking funny
Data you legend.
It was annoying how they all acted like Data had committed murder or something for playing a harmless holodeck joke.
Sorry crew but that was funny :) and spot is so cute
hahahaha!!! Date and Dr.Crusher are my favorite characters, and this is hilarious!! She does seem a little bitchy here, though. If I had been the one Data had pushed in, I would've been haughing from the moment I came back to the top!
Doctor Crusher should have seen that coming honestly
I think also the highly sensitive Beverly was shoved and she tumbled legs upward head first into the water while Worf just fell feet down into the water from an expected prank from Riker.
And no one shoved Worf; he just had the plank he was on removed.
In any case, the scene was hilarious.
I am sure later on maybe a few weeks later, Beverly quietly found humor in it.
Heres a question, if u get wet in holographic water, and turn the program off, do u instantly dry off? And can you breath underwater?
In Encounter at Farpoint Wesley fell into water on the holodeck and was still dripping wet when exited. I think the water is replicated rather than a holographic projection.
0:43 - 0:51 LOL Data's face
:)
I can not for the life of me watch this without cracking up laughing
I feel bad for Worf, having to go into the water twice.
i am still a fan watching STNG !!!! July 2016!
"Pushing people into the water is funny"
*Pushes her into the water*
"Not funny"
This moment was rather funny
The moment he pushes Beverly off the boat, I’m thinking of Shrek saying “...Okay!” On the wooden bridge.
0:32; her face is hilarious!
it's not possible. there's no even single giggle heard, I don't believe no one on that ship thought is was funny
Data pushes Dr.Crusher in the water is my favorite part of the movie I even told Gates when I met her. She told me it took two takes to do. Gates is also a sweetheart she took the time to talk to her fans
Did she tell you she wasn't the one who went into the water? Patricia Tallman aka Lyta Alexander from B5 was her stunt double and took the fall for her. Watch the clip carefully at a slow speed and you'll see. Also Ms. Tallman confirmed it.
Geordi's right. It's not funny.
It's hilarious.
been looking for this for ages!
It's all in good fun, Crusher
The irony is that this was indeed funny.
The Rifftrax to this movie is great! "The Prime Directive of Star Trek should be to never do comedy." lol. But, in all seriousness, im a big Trek fan not here to bash...it was just funny.
what misunderstandings there can be.
you don't have to take everything so literally.😀😄
Crusher did say to Data to be spontaneous so it's her on fault.
No wonder Data is confused. He should've pushed Geordi in as well.
Data has achieved maximum cat...
0:30, absolutely hilarious.
Good to know sexist double standards will continue to exist in the 24th century.
Well this was a mediocre ass script written way before the 24th century...
likely data will never have a reason to go to sick bay
makes me laugh. EVERY TIME
Data. This is funny
0:17 He's already been over what fun is. This feels so out of place.
Oh come on, she was asking for that.... LOL love Data!!!!
If it's any consolation Data I thought it was pretty darn hilarious.
I agree
Dr. Crusher can't really blame or be mad at data if you ask me.
That wasnt Gates McFadden that went for a dip but Patricia Tallman who is probably better know from her babylon 5 stint as Lita. She's done a lot of stunts on various star trek shows.
haha Data is so freaking funny
how dare data attempt to make generations watchable
Data, Data, Data. Sometimes i wonder if you'll ever evolve
Totally funny!
lol They couldn't have picked a more perfect stunt double. Patrica Tallman looks spot on like Gates McFadden. lol...and just 3 years later she's knocked out by Austin Powers.
That’s why you never got laid on the show Geordi
Literally what autistic people go through almost everyday
I love Spot! I'd have let him stay and meow!
*_"Got it"_*
She had it coming to her.
if these people would have laughed then the enterprise would have been saved
Title: Data attempts to be funny.
Outcome: Data succeeds.
If I remember correctly, I think in the novelization they have Riker and Picard laughing inwardly at Data's prank.
Can dish it out, but can't take it? Breaking the double-standard is hilarious.
@LoneBong
You bet it was hilarious!
I never understood why it's funny to get Worf wet, but not Bev. I mean he technically did the same thing to her, which they did to Worf. Where's the difference? I laughed. Don't listen to them Data, you're funny as hell! :D
Oh yes, that was funny!
So basically, when stuff happens to guy = funny, when happens to Women, not fun, all that time, all those hours of makeup.
Hurray for feminism in the 24th century lol
Actually, the idea that a woman can't handle being pushed overboard is a
patriarchal one, which feminists have always actively fought against.
What this scene is doing in a Star Trek (where sexism is supposedly a thing of the past) is beyond me.
Ah, the good ole days of early 90s sexism against men, combining the worst of both traditionalism and upstart feminism.
It is practically intended by the filmmakers to be taken as granted that a brute of a man/Klingon such as Worf would be fair target for all sorts of mockery and abuse, not to mention emasculation, but that a hypocritical spoiled little princess such as Dr. Crusher would be off totally limits.
SerbAtheist Blame it on the writers. Who funny enough were all men
Wait a second, when women exhibit misogyny it's ''internalized oppression'' (from men, of course) but when men exhibit misandry, it's ''blame it all on men.''
I see how this works.
SerbAtheist You seem to be reading too much into my comment and looking for something to overreact to. I was saying it was poor writing and observing how ironic it was that the writers happened to be men. But since you brought it up: When women exhibit misogyny it's internalized misogyny, and when men exhibit misandry, it's (say it with me) internalized misandry. I don't know how you think this clip is representative of feminist views. Most of us would agree what Data did was pretty funny and the rest of the crew were being humorless. In fact treating women as if they were humorless princesses would be considered pretty sexist *against* women in the first place. The writers went about it in an idiotic way
SerbAtheist I think you totally misunderstand the situation, the reason it is ok to throw Worf in the water is because HE is the one getting promoted, therefore he can expect taunts, as would any other officer, male or female. When Data pushes Dr. Crusher in the others think it isn't funny because Data misunderstand why the situation is funny, Worf gets a reward and with that comes some ribbing, Dr. Crusher is not being promoted, and is thus not open for the same kind of "fun". We, the audience thinks it's fun, because Data misunderstands the situation.
+vrenak okay that makes sense. I was having trouble seeing the difference.
HOW THAT WASN'T FUNNY, GEORDI?
Double kill.
Spot🐱
"Spot! ... Come here!..." :-P
If I were on the holodeck that day I’d have told data that shit was hilarious
You're right. It wasn't funny. It was HILARIOUS!
The writing on this show was just amazing at times. Also look at the clip where Data critiques Picard’s painting skills.
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i diden't know the reason of how this enterprise made a fuss about star trek i reacon that star trek first contact was my best programme
BWAHAHAHA
worf fell in too!!!!!!!!
I was confused by this too and I guess they're still sexist.
It was funny
what episode is that from?
One of the most nonsentical scenes in Star Trek history...
I still dont get why this is not funny
Cuz she could've drowned.
On a fucking Holo Deck? Come on man! lol
What season and episode is this?
+Lady Twixy
Thats a movie and the name of it is in the title of the video.
+Leonidas AMPer Thanks, sometime I can be stupid)
Nah that was funny especially cos its Beverly
why ? sexism exist between crew of enterprice ? (or with you)
Do 😅 something unenspected😂😂😂
🧔🏿Data 🤖 that was not funny
the irony is data attempt to be funny by pushing her off the ship in which no one there thought it was funny . the ironic thing is is data was not attemptimg to be funny he was funny
I dunno about you, but I thought this was VERY funny.
I forgot to stop laughing and do a gender analysis of a funny scene. Geez, chill. Enjoy a film!
Data, that was not funny.