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I've lost track of how many times people have referred to Obi-Wan Kenobi as the perfect Jedi. Everything about his fighting style, his approach even to warfare, even to the woman he loved, was all overshadowed by his commitment to the Jedi order and the force itself.
I keep hearing in clips like this that Obi-Wan's midi-chlorian was below average when compared to other Jedi Knights, yet all the research I've done via google has yielded claim after claim that it was actually above average (if only slightly).
You made all the shit you said up. There is no briefing report it’s all people making stuff up. I’ve read every Star Wars book and not one say anything.. your full of shit.
R.I.P Satine. Obi Wan so loved that broad.
Some might argue that his ability to separate himself from his emotional attachments is a trait of a sociopath.
Obi wan was an underrated jedi but not a great jedi. He actually used darkside abilities to defeat anakin
"Your arrogance blinds you" Greatest quote in star wars history (even though its not the full quote). Certainly applied to this fight.
Not the greatest but the hardest hitting is by far “you were my brother anakin” makes me cry everytime
"...Master Yoda."
I think the real trick was him saying "It's over, Anakin! I have the high ground." Obi-Wan knew him very well and was aware of his arrogance. He knew that he could be goaded into a disadvantageous position because Anakin/Vader would take the bait without caring about the odds.
I personally like to think it was a warning, I have the high ground, I know what your planning & if you follow through, I am prepared to strike you down! I like to think he was still acting like a mentor, but knew Anakin too well & thus struck him down when Anakin jumped in an attempt to defeat Obi-Wan the way Obi-Wan bestes Maul on Naboo!
@@RaphBlade7 yea agreed, that was coming from a place of love and he was pleading to Anakin to chose the light but he chose the dark side.
@@ianmatthews7385 I agree. Obi-Wan was basically saying "don't make me kill you, man!" It was a warning that Anakin was likely to ignore, but Obi-Wan was still trying to save what was left of his friend.
Obiwan was not baiting Anakin into a deadly decision. He truly wanted Anakin to reconsider his decision, and be wiser than the things he’d done
@@RaphBlade7 Yeah I totally agree you could hear the sorrow in Obi-Wan's voice when He said "Don't try it" because He knew what Anakin/Vader was about to do and that there was ZERO chance that He could pull it off, sadly Anakin/Vader was too drunk off the Dark Side Of The Force and His own arrogance to think rationally
Everyone including obi wan himself always down plays his skills with a lightsaber
Well he still was inferior to anakin if we looked at it on paper stats wise
Idk about that. Many people revered Obi-Wan for his skill at Soresu. He's known as the master of it, the best at Soresu in the history of the Jedi order.
I think that was because he used a strictly defensive form; he probably felt inferior to other Jedi that used offensive forms.🤷🏿
@@B3an01 Yeah but stats are theoretical and don't tell whole story. Practically, Obi Wan is top 5 of his era at least
@@sorin_markov People considered him THE master of Soresu but never respected him as one of the best duelists with the likes of Anakin, Mace, Dooku, and Yoda. Not saying he's as strong as them but he's in that tier
So I’ve never seen anyone mention this but I always thought the “ high ground “ reference was a kinda play on how Obi Wan defeats Darth Maul. I always felt like it was something of a highlight moment in Anakin”s perception of Obi Wan and how a little brother might try to use a moment of triumph of their older brother as a stepping stone to show how they have surpassed them. It seemed to me that Anakin was going to beat Obi Wan in a similar fashion to how Obi Wan defeated the one who defeated his master Qui Gon Jinn . Just a thought
I have heard this to also be true and it makes loads of sense
I've seen it mentioned specifically before.
Watch the Pitch Meeting episode about that movie. You are right, but not nearly the first to have thought of it.
Midichlorian counts only point to POTENTIAL. So Anakin was POTENTIALLY far stronger than Obi Wan. But during that battle they were evenly matched. Because it's not like Anakin had spent hours working on his force abilities. He was a SWORDSMAN and BOTH of them had been shaped, and sharpened by constant fighting during the Clone Wars side by side. Also, Obi Wan had a master who always told him to stay in the moment, to be mindful of the living force so he was perfectly in tune with it during the fight. But Anakin foolishly and arrogantly saw Obi Wan and the Jedi as "weak" and Kenobi's style as purely defensive, which it was - BUT - Anakin's rage and his desire to kill his former master blinded him to the fact that Obi Wan himself had literally come to Mustafar with one goal in mind, to END ANAKIN'S LIFE. Obi Wan doesn't get enough credit. I can't think of any Jedi of his era who can say that he'd defeated two Sith Lords, then beat one and killed the other in the rematches. He also took out Grievous who was a Jedi-killing beast of a cyborg whose tech allowed him to move faster than the eye could see and faster than any Jedi according to the ROTS novel. Obi Wan was NOT a dude than any SMART Dark Sider should take lightly in any way.
As I have said before people often forget that Obi Wan's original form was 4 which is very aggressive so he can go on the offense. Look at the Kenobi show.
Obi Wan also almost turned to the Dark Side had he fully embraced his rage at Anakin at betraying the Order. Midbattle Obi Wan changes his battle strategy, lets the Force flow through him, and ultimately teaches the arrogant never listens to his Master student a much needed lesson in a total Self Preservation moment. Obi Wan basically PLEADS with Anakin NOT to make him a multiple amputee. The drunk with new power Vader ignores it, and gets SCHOOLED af while Obi Wan retaining his humility mourns that he had to DO WHAT HE SAID, and what he MUST at the decision of Vader-kin. Epic, poetic, and it was Obi Wan who passed his Jedi test that day, Anakin only learned he wasn't as kick@$$ as he imagined himself to be and still had 💩 to learn. I'll tale the guy who in the momemnt learns his lesson, than the one who still is bitter about it 15 yrs later on the Death Star any day. And still proclaiming he's the Master. 🤣
Most of all Master will never appky to Lord Vader NOR to Anakin Skywalker Jedi, because HE ISN'T and was butthurt he WASN'T given a title he NEVER EARNS through EITHER Sith or Jedi Order. Never the Master ONLY EVER THE APPRENTICE
Anakin is much stronger in the force. If he was smart he would have picked up obi wan and dunked him into the lava or instead of jumping have force pulled obi wan into his blade. He just had an obsession with proving he was better with a light saber
No thry were not equal annikan was stronger . But that does not make the him the more skilled .....and that his skills were not Taylor made to fight against him
I think Obi Wan did not fully let go of Anakin until his second to last duel with Vader in the Obi Wan TV series. Before that, Obi Wan did not know that Anakin/ Darth Vader survived Mustafar until the TV series began, he did let go then but not fully enough. When Obi Wan learned that Vader survived, those feelings of attachment and emotions during duel on Mustafar (you mentioned) just reignite again and return. In the Obi Wan TV series duel, that was a emotional duel because Obi Wan presented the same emotions that he had during Mustafar if not less. When Obi Wan said "Goodbye...Darth", that can be argued he has let go of Anakin for good. By the time of their final duel on the Death Star, Obi Wan has already long accepted Anakin is gone for good and no attachment to Vader anymore.
The best part is that the actual Master on The Death Star in A New Hope has the satisfaction of knowing NOT ONLY has allowing the Force to flow through him in that second duel, and the simple I'm your teacher and no matter how arrogant you are if you make me defend myself and make you be a triple amputee my rage that almost pushed me to the Dark Side for you murdering and betraying the order is past, I'm still gonna teach you a lesson if WHEN I SAY LISTEN, LISTEN... EPIC Mustafar begging, please don't make me make you an amputee. Priceless. But YES, by the time it comes to A New Hope Kenobi gets the satisfaction of smirking when Anakin/Vader refers to himself as a Master. 🤣 which Kenobi knows NOT only did Vader never earn that title in Jedi Order, but even after doing Palpatine's bidding and stooging for nearly 2 decades the pathetic wannabe was still trying to claim himself higher than even the Sith esteemed him either. Always the whiny bitchboy apprentice NEVER the Master.
To be clear you don't become a Sith Master when you die in the same process of killing your master amd by canon now failing at the attempt. Just sayin
obi wan tv series is shit tbh
Great point. He definitely didn’t really “let go” because he showed a lot of emotion in their second duel. But in their third and final duel he had no attachment to him at all
They knew each other’s style too well due to sparring with each other all the time.
The novel of ROTS is one of my favorite SW reads, and ROTS my favorite SW movie.
Agreed, though I've never read the novel, all of the reviews I've heard about it have been very good!
@@face4682 If you can find it buy it, I know back in the ancient times of 2005 that the novel got praised by a few places and picked up a copy but did not read it for 10 years. When I did finally read it I was very happy that I purchased it when I did as the book gave so much insight to all the characters, fleshed out others, and showed much deeper details on the many battles.
ROTS also had some great games on both console and portable so yeah it was all it boosted to be and more.
@offworlder1348 you could get on Google play books. I bought the audio book there
Obi is a master of low ground. Defeats maul when he is way below. Defeats anakin when he jumps above him.
Obi Wan beat Maul because Maul was very arrogant.
Darth sidious also stated that kenobi did his best lightsaber duel performance ever because he saw anakin as an Armageddon to the galaxy and a sith . Obi wans goal from the beginning of his training was to destroy the sith so this was the time he didnt held back and broke jedi rules
The only reason Obi Wan bested Anakin is that he used forbidden pocket sand. As Anakin did his flip over him he flicked a hand full of pocket sand that he had kept on him just incase Anakin ever got out of hand. With out the pocket sand Anakin would have sliced Obi Wan in half . Or what you said works too.
Love this comment
Lmao Urban X TV?
Sheppard carried a lemon to use if McKay ever got out of hand in Stargate: Atlantis.
Pocket Sand and the High Ground... hecl of a combo
@@literallyanangrymoose7717 Level or low ground the pocket sand would be the deciding factor.
Kenobi fights with intelligence. Anakin fights with brute force.
Brute force and anger.
I have always had thought that diffrence between Jedi and Sith in combat is that Jedi goes in battle with clear goal in mind, when Sith other hand crave combat and enjoy it thus having feelings and emotions in play.
Very good point. I believe that is the reason Sith were considered better fighters than Jedi. Anger is the prevalent emotion displayed when fighting, and that is an advantage to the Sith in a fight.
Trust only in the force. Keep your cup full, but not overflowing.
I think you are mistaken. Jedi are fully capable of enjoying and even lusting after battle. The clarity of mind you speak of is also present in Sith combatants. Consider perhaps Mace Windu and Darth Sideous as examples of each.
@@Sketchymage Well Darth Sidious actually hates lighsabers and he fights only when forced to, so he cant be compared to your average Sith, he has actually lot of qualities of Jedi. Mace Windu sure enjoys combat sure but manages to still keep his focus without letting his anger or hatred for enemy to prevail and that's why he is so strong Jedi.
That's why Obi Wan almost lost himself and fell to the Dark Side. Mid battle he realized his OWN connections to Anakin were clouding his thinking, especially knowing Anakin/Vader had annihilated the Order and everything that he had devoted his life to.
To me this just says that Obi-Wan always knew how to keep himself in a good head space while in a lightsaber duel.
They should make an alternate timeline where Darth Vader defeats Obi-Wan, gets fully trained in the dark side by Sidious and has a battle between a full powered Sidious vs a full powered Anakin.
That revenge of the Sith alternate game ending is wrong because Anakin wanted Sidious to teach him the ways of the darkside so he could save Padmé.
So it would be a cool thing to see. A sort of alternate scenario that could be seen in one of the mirrors in the world between worlds
I've been thinking roughly the same thing for quite sometime. That would be epic
the whole problem was palp didnt tell anakin in order to save her he would have to sacrifice someone else to get that
There were many alternatives timeliness that could be made like different universes. Might as well cause Disney ruins stuff
The reason he was able to beat anakin was because he had the high ground
the real reason is the lava on Mustafar
Nah because he is obi wan kenobi 😂😂😂
@@xanatoselite6078 explain that to kit fesko.
He goaded anikan into beating obi wan with his own move, how he defeated maul was the same situation, but obi wan knew what maul should have done.
He ego challenged anikan and he took the bait
I don't think the high ground is the reason Anaikin lost; his skills were too good for that. I believe it was a combination of Anaikin's arrogance, Obi Wan's mastery of the defensive form, and the will of the Force. Everyone seems to forget that the will of the Force will ALWAYS prevail! Though Anaikin was the Chosen One, he still had to succumb to the will of the Force. Although Sith are known to bend the will of the Force for their needs, eventually the Force will win.
In the Novel Obi Wan let go, of himself to be one with the force when he fought Grievous. He learnt that in this moment.
Obi wan is the living embodiment of Hard work always beats talent. Anakin/Vader is more superior but ego and cockiness and over confidence will lead you to destruction no matter how talented or you have potential among the rest of most people.
Obi wan Kenobi is an example of someone who just keeps at it until they become a master. They might not have the most natural talent, and they struggle more along the way, but just due to sheer will and training they become amazing at something. Also Kenobi had a strong connection to the force despite having a low midi-chlorian count because he had faith in himself and in the Jedi in general and the shock of Anakin falling to the dark side set him into a determination. And even when they fought he still loved his friend. Which I think Anakin can sense so that's why Kenobi is able to beat him in fights because Vader's weakness is memories of the love he had for his friends etc... If vader is cold and full of rage then he's unbeatable. And in the new show when Obi Wan Kenobi says I'm sorry for all of it. I think Anakin really had a cathartic moment with his old friend. But he tried to cover it up with the psychopathic "I killed anakin skywalker" which just shows how depressed and full of rage he is over killing Padme.
Obi-Wan used focus and cleared his mind as much as possible. It allowed him to calculate and treat the duel like a chess match. He was one step ahead of Anikin the whole time and I think he planned the final blow. He has proven that he uses cunning throughout the clone wars where as Anikin often ran into situations brashly.
I've wondered about this. Why couldn't Obi Wan just force push Anakin down into the lava after he cut off of limbs?
He could have but it seems like he didn't want to in the moment
He could have, but if he wasn't going to walk down there and end it quick with his lightsaber, force pushing him into the lava would seem kind of cruel and lazy.
Obi Wan won because that was the will of the Force, what gave him enough strength to beat Anakin.
So its also because the will of the Force that Anakin was spared and lived to become Darth Vader.
I belive that, that was the point when Obi-Wan Kenobi became one with the living force. Not the over all force like Yoda had. I say this knowing this response will open a whole nother conversation. But it is the only thing that makes since. His master always told him to be mindful of the living force and to keep his mind in the here and now.
Correct. Kenobi’s power comes from being completely open to the force. And the force can do anything... besides saving Anakin.
This reminds me on how Darth Maul beat Qui-Gon Jin. Maul did something totally unexpected and hit Qui-Gon with the hilt of his blade. This unexpected maneuver was enough to get the killing blow. These duels remind us that being unpredictable is the greatest advantage in a duel.
7:48 yeah, Obi-Wan is looking really calm just there. Really detached.
The boy that Obi Wan said, "Why do I sense we've picked up another pathetic life form"
Obi Wan is insanely strong, patient and disciplined. There should be no surprise he won honestly.
There's no surprise to anyone that understands obiwan correctly
Too many Anakin/vader fan boys think just because anakins potential was overall higher it means it was at the time of the fight but they are wrong
Where do you get the fact that Obi Wan had a much lower midichlorian count. One, I've never seen an official list. Two, any list that's created has him in the top 10 of Jedi with midichlorian. If you're referring to the novel Master and Apprentice, there was no mention of his levels there, either. He did have trouble connecting to the Force for a while but overcome that and progressed nicely.
Obi Wan was one of the more powerful Force users amongst the Jedi of his time and one of the premier duelist of all time.
I think there's a scenario where Anakin wins but it was unlikely. Anakin was too emotional and Obi Wan just wasn't making a single mistake that day.
Obi Wan knew he could not afford any mistakes and Anakin was too arrogant to see that
We all know that you can never underestimate… The High Ground.
I for one am so sick & tired of Obi-Wan getting the blame for Anakin's turning. everyone in the S.W. universe seem to lay the blame for Anakin turning to Sidious & the Dark Side on Obi-Wan - when Anakin was a Jedi Knight no longer Obi-Wan's Padawan & Anakin was a grown man. It peeved me how in the Obi-Wan series Reva yelled that at Obi-Wan when he was literally falling to his own death. Anakin made a choice - a choice that damned the Republic & the Jedi. It had nothing to do with Obi--Wan who was guilted into training Anakin by a dying Qui-Gon who knew how to manipulate his apprentice aka Obi-Wan into doing what we all know as the most stupidest thing as Obi-Wan was not prepared to take an apprentice when he was so young & green.
Still the jedi order were not mental therapists.
Awesome video! This was an amazing analysis!
Thanks for the support 🙏🏻
You should do a fallen warrior arc explaining how the injuries and experiences of the likes of darth vader, krayt and malgus influence their abilities especially corncerning their connection to the force. Also a segment of the abilities of old ben kenobi like how his lightsaber style changed and anya kuro aka the darkwomen.
I look forward to these every day. Thank you.
Obi-Wan planted a thought in Anakin's mind. If that lava cooled, much of it would have been sand.
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this will always be one of the saddest fights for me *sniff*
Somewhat amusingly, in the Revenge of the Sith novelisation it implies that Obi-Wan severing Anakin's limbs may have been an accident.
"Anakin snarled a curse as he realised he'd been suckered, and leapt off his droid at Obi-Wan's back---
Half a second too slow.
Obi-Wan's whirl to parry didn't meet Anakin's blade. It met his knee. Then his other knee.
And while Anakin was still in the air, burned-off lower legs only starting their topple down the cliff, Obi-Wan's recovery to guard brought his blade through Anakin's left arm above the elbow. He stepped back as Anakin fell"
Either way, he certainly didn't plan it that way. The Force may have planned it that way though, and Obi-Wan just let it work through him
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Anakin was always emotionally unstable. Even as Vader he was still very much emotionally unstable, so with every interaction with Obi Wan it brought out the padawan Anakin in Vader subconsciously
I think if Obi Wan really wanted, he could’ve killed Vader. He had enough time to pour out his emotions to him one final time. Obi Wan may have separated himself from his attachments, but that doesn’t mean they were gone. Signs what the Jedi initially missed
Force push him into the lava, done.
But he couldn't, if he had killed him that day the Force wouldn't have been in it. Either Kenobi would be going for revenge, and he'd himself be falling to the Dark Side. He INSTEAD taught one last lesson as a Master to his student, when he begs Anakin not to jump it's a full out self-preservation IF you make the choice to come at me I will make you a multiple amputee. End of story. The ever arrogant never listening to guidance Anakin does it anyways. EPIC. He couldn't kill Anakin. He left him for the Force/nature to handle lying on the dge of a volcanic river believing THAT would handle it. And fittingly if it had because after everything the Jedi had done for Anakin over the years in truth, yep him suffering an agonizing death after there betrayal would be The Way of the Force-so NO Jedi would have to strike that blow. Plus did Anakin at that point deserve any kind of Mercy blow? Like really? Ya sorry but I fail to think ANY Jedi would be like yep you killed our order but here we'll kindly put you out of misery you brought on all of us. Yep This is NOT the way of the Force you're looking for. So ya he didn't have to kill Vader. He PROVED his point on the field of battle, the arrogant upstart betrayer was a cocky failure of what he'd been gramted opportunity to mold himself differently and had destroyed the order. No honor, no respect, doesn't really garner much of the same in return. And the Order not emcouraging attachments DOESN'T mean the same as the implicit concept of existence that one will develop attachments to those around them. I mean really? Yoda was devastated when he realized months before Order 66 that in order to save the Jedi he must NOT let them in on the coming massacre. Yet somehow you don't think the pain of the deaths of all the Jedi at Order 66 wasn't felt by the other's BECAUSE of attachment? Having attachments isn't the same as letting those attachments overpower your duty and honor. Soldiers have families, they still have to go out and kill other people they have never met with families. Knowing they are making widows and orphans. Get it? It's ludicrous to pretend that discouraging attachments means no Jedi had any when they themselves are eachothers by definition 🤣 The key is HOW one holds attachments and when do they become harmful or not beneficial.
@@andrewmcmurray8081 while I agree it would have been easy it would have made Kenobi the Dark side.
@@andrewmcmurray8081 It wouldn't work, The prophecy says he will and would bring balance to the force, The force would just bring him back for anakin to complete him mission into bringing balance to the force and destroying the sith. OW wouldn't be able to completely kill him in lava or anything as he will just return
Kenobi controlles his emotions unlike Anakin and that is the kye part in battle.
#1. Anakin / Vader was new to the dark side and didn't have a full grip on it yet .
#2 . Anakin / Vader was a little bit conflicted .
#3. Kenobi used a forbidden move .
Wha??? Anakin still never was a Master, when he claims to be in a New Hope Kenobi rightfully smirks because neither Jedi NOR Sith will ever refer to him as that. Even after he betrayed and massacred one to get the title. 🤣 Vader was always conflicted. So was Obi Wan almost turned Dark Side if he'd won on Mustafar by anything other than self defense. He BEGS Anakin the arrogant never listens to orders student NOT to make him make him an amputee. The headstrong drunk with new power student says WHAT? Ya. Conflicted isn't an excuse. Yoda had to kill his best friend during the clone wars for simply NOT wanting to side with Seperatists OR the Republic and Dooku forced NO option. To where Yoda's best friend begs him to do it. Conflicted? Come on man that's what moral quandary is and exists FOR in Life AND ART. Not an argument of validity to prove one's view. Sorry. But good try. Kenobi used a forbidden move? 🤣 So massacre entire planets isn't a forbidden move? Really? Are we even having this conversation? Like gee, war and battles are always by the rules? 🤣 How about Sun Tzu the Art of War, you meet your enemy on the battlefield THEY choose, on THEIR terms if you have any intent to win. Be just as much tHEM as they are, just as fierce or brutal, but above all, use your greatest weapon BRAINS to win... Don't pretend for a moment that the world will truly get through to Islamic terrorists by locking them up for a decade or so and expecting peace to win out. Until we fight on THEIR same terms THEY won't recognize the lesson. So pretending that those with NO honor or code will somehow be ethical or live to a code is farcical. But pretending some rule overpowers self preservation? ROFLMAO. Sorry but Lightsabers either stab or slice causing amputation. While maiming isnt the goal because putting an enemy down is, doesn't make Anakin chosing to force Anakin to teach him a brutal lesson Kenobis bad. Sorry, real world we have self defense laws and even stand your ground laws in some places that says screw that nonsense. So forbidden move? 🤣 LOL sorry when you kill my whole order that made those rules the rules are kind of NOT the rules any more BUD. Come on. You're desperately making excuses for the always an apprentice NEVER a Master. The ultimate pathetic actuallys since he killed one order out of being pissed that they weren't elevating him to that level and joins the one order where he doesn't move up til he's already dying. 🤣
Obi wans just better at this
@@chrisstowell484 wat Darth Vader do to you to hate him so much HE IS A FICTIONAL CHARACTER. come down bud
@@chrisstowell484 Isn't Legends Vader almost godlike in terms of power scale though, IIRC?
Obi-Wan defeated Anakin because he was a MASTER. Anakin was only an apprentice. He still is. He went from being the apprentice of Obi-Wan, to being the apprentice of Palpatine/Sidious.
I think Luke's belief that the Jedi are always, or at least usually, better lightsaber duelists is consistent with other SW lore. In particular, Darth Sidious believed the Sith had outgrown lightsabers, and considered them to only be Jedi weapons. Even in his final duel with Yoda, he knew that he wouldn't win a lightsaber fight with the grand master, and used his superior force abilities instead.
Dooku and Ventress did well enough didn’t they?
Being calm and collected will often times lead to a victory. But its not always easy because of emotions which we all have.
Please make a video of Princess Lea she knows the force somewhat. I like how you gave reasoning to Obi Won's being calm and collected so this video is a 8.5/10.
Anakin’s emotions cause him to lose to Obi wan. That’s literally the only answer. Nobody was better than Anakin with a lightsaber except maybe Yoda
truly is a story of tragedy. Obi-Wan was forced to cut down his brother, he really had no other option
DUDE!!!!!! I just got this!! Ok so Anakin is Kobra Kia & Johnny Lawrence where Obi Wan is miyagi do & Daniel Laruso
Obiwan was so orthodox he probably just trained in form 1 until everyone thought it was form 5
Very good explanation - a rare gem, a giant thanks to the author!!!I really have scene so deep spiritual/religious analysis VERY rare
Man why'd you have to post this video knowing the emotional damage it will do to us 😭 you are just making this even more emotional than it already is 😭😭
That's just... beautiful.
I have so many questions: Why didn't Anakin use force lighting? Why didn't Anakin use the force to push hot lava on Obi-Wan? How come Darth Mal didn't cut off Obi-Wan's limbs @ the end of their duel like Obi-Wan did Anakin? Why didn't Anakin force choke Obi-Wan? Why didn't Anakin force throw any of the backdrop equipment on Mustafar @ Obi-Wan? For someone who powers where growing so rapidly he sure didn't use them...
He was at ease with the force
He had the highground
He had the high ground. That's all we need to know.
Obiwan knew in terms in power Anakin had him beat but his use in form 3 compensated for it he needed to fight smart if he wanted to win.
All through the fight Obiwan is aware of is surroundings, finding space, getting to points where he cannot be overwhelmed or flanked etc etc, this gave him an edge over anikan who was full attack mode
This was a great breakdown. I see for both duelists it was very personal
He was focused and concentrated; Anakin was emotional.
You've come such a long way bro. Great to see the improvement in the channel and you, that's what it's all about!! Love this fucking channel!!
There isn't enough physical/acting evidence that Anakin was tiring out in ROTS... But his arrogance in that moment, and wanting to end it right there might have been his hail mary to finish things by any means necessary... Even to the point of reason (of trying that move vs high ground) against one of the greatest, if not greatest Jedi's of all time.
I think arrogance was his biggest downfall. Not fatigue. I think Anakin had more than enough in the gas tank to go as long as needed. In the Kenobi Series, in the training montage, I think they were alluding that Anakin's offensive brute style could very well beat Obi Wan straight up... But it was the cleverness + fight IQ that gave the Master his advantage.
General kenobi, you're a bold one.
My girlfriend have this interesting theory. Anakin was good in improvising during fights and often do something crazy which caught his oponent of guard and make him lose. But Obi-wan did knew Anakin more then anyone and was exactly prepared for it and using it againts him in the end. I think this theory makes a lot of sense.
i think the biggest takeaway from this breakdown is not that jedi will always be better duelists, but rather any force user will always be at their peak potential when they drop sides and simply give in to the will of the force. the same reason why palpatine feared qui gon jinn! he viewed qui gon as the most dangerous outside of yoda because he knew when it came down to it qui gon would bend the rules and always do what the force willed.
This is a great analysis. I only wish this were textual in the movie. The prequels needed a good script doctor, and some secondary non-jedi characters to help humanise the impact of the war.
Obi-Wan loved Anakin so much. This was right thing to do. He had to let go. His attachments,feelings. He let Anakin go. He let him to the Force. To become Vader and later. They loved each other so much. So this is extremely sad and tragic. But Obi-Wan had to do this. May the Force be with you too. Have a nice day too :)
Obi Wan Kenobi is the ultimate Jedi, absolutely the greatest one because he was the most disciplined. Power means nothing compared to the nature of the force, which is all about neutrality. It is the users of the force who are concerned with power, because Obi Wan was not, I believe he is the absolute pinnacle of what a Jedi should be
I don't know where you get the low midichlorian count info, but Obi Wan has one of the largest Midichlorian counts of all Jedi. He was ranked just below Yoda if I remember correctly. Considering that his fights with Dooku is influenced by Palpatine to make Anakin shine, Obi Wan was pretty much invincible.
I need to buy the novelization sounds so great!
Obi-Wan: I cannot do this. Anakin is my brother...
Elsa: Let it Go
HE HAD THE HIGH GROUND!
*roll credits*
Maybe, if Obi-wan went in for the kiss when the lightsabers were deadlocked, the galaxy would have lived happily ever after.
Obi wan not only trained anakin but was basically his father horrible as a father figure he was a Jedi almost completely detached from his emotions you raise an egg it grows up listens to you loves you grows in power to rival yours and surpasses you but you’ve studied your egg since day one weaknesses strengths and what ticks you off the most the egg kills your Jedi council and younglings now your order is to dispatch your rebellious egg who denounced your ways it was father vs son mentor vs student anakin didn’t desire to kill obiwan truly this is seen in there duel in the kenobi series he calls him master showing respect to the exiled Jedi master
Well he didnt let it go. He had still nightmares years after this
"Experience and guile will always defeat youthful exuberance."
He kicked his ass again in Obi-Wan ;p
High ground man, high ground.
Even just from the movie itself Kenobi knowing anakin was younger and more powerful. He knew he could not win in an outright battle toe to toe with him so he stayed on the defensive and kept the battle moving. Imo trusting in the force knowing that any moment an opportunity would arise
Naw that wasn't what he was talking about when he said Soon Vader would become more powerful than either of us. He was saying eventually after a couple or years or so. Sidious training would have done it because his training is much harsher just like Yoda's training was top tier when he only had to train one being. Look at all their students just to see the proof.
He had the high ground!
A few things to keep in mind. In the original cut of ROTS, Obi Wan matched Dooku blade to blade with his mastery of form 3, which resulted in Dooku using the force to knock Kenobi out of the fight. Form 3 happens to be a very good counter to form 2, and Anakins form 5, as its focus is on defense and energy conservation. Form 2 was also weaker against the powerful strikes of form 5. Outlasting the opponent is it’s main goal. Obi Wan was also very skilled in the offensive form 4. Obi Wan also knew Anakins fighting style, which gave him an advantage. Obi Wan is also a much smarter fighter in the moment of battle, Anakin fought with emotion, where Obi Wan focused on his skill in the moment, allowing him the upper hand…
Mou kai is a move aimed at removing both legs.
Mou kei does not include the arm.
Obi wan used a combination of Mou Kai and Cho Sun.
Obi Wan also used Sai Tok to cut Darth Maul in half another frowned-upon move.
I was expecting nearly 9 minutes of a screen that just said "the high ground" and was disappointed.
Is there any credence to the idea that anakin was weakened in a way because he still saw obi wan as his brother , and so was conflicted ?
2:23 “Soon Darth Vader will be more powerful than either of us.” This is a perfect example of a misquote. Darth Sidious did not say soon.
This is exactly what was said. “You will not stop me. Darth Vader will become more powerful than either of us.” I have not seen Star Wars episode three revenge of the Sith in several years for the “still ring through in my head is if I watched it yesterday.
Allow me to break down the dialogue. Templeton made a statement, but then sensing how powerful Yoda wasn’t a force to be canceled on his statement because he knew there was a chance a great possibility that Master Yoda would defeat him here and now.
Dwelling for moment on the possibility of his eminent defeat, Darth Sidious wanted to make Yoda feel fear, by stating that his apprentice would eventually become more powerful than both of them.
This backfired, because Yoda had this to say in response “Misplaced may be faith in you’re new apprentice. As is your faith in the Darkside of the force.”
let’s break this one down.. basically Yoda is unafraid, because in this moment he believes that Anakin will turn away from the Darkside or at least there’s a possibility Anakin is redeemable from the Darkside. Yoda finish it off with saying that Darth Sidious would lose bcuz His faith in the dark side was also miss placed.
Personally Yoda’s second statement, was a little bit weaker. However the portion about Anakin was 100% through.
I know it had to go down the way it did. For the story to continue on. But Kenobi failed too kill Darth Vader. As he always failed. They say he left him alive. Too get out of dodge, and too try too save Padme. But he could have killed all the same and still gotten out of there in time.
All he had too do was Force push Vader into the lava. Or use the Force too cause the edge of the bank that Vader was laying on too break off into the river of lava.
Yes and no. Anakin's limbs may have been unable to fight with a saber, but he was still fully capable of using the force to push back against anything Kenobi could attempt.
And Anakin was massively more powerful than Kenobi in that regard. There's no saying just how powerful he was clearly just weakened...but the dark side also feeds off anger and pain, which he had A LOT of right then
I don't think you know the prophecy says that anakin will and would bring balance to the force, he'd just return if anything happend to him as he needs to bring balance to the force and destroy the sith as it was his destiny
@@T1Top I know full well what the Prophecy says. ( And I know what they had too do. Too keep the story going! ) I watched all three of the original movies. In the theater. When they came out in the theaters back in the mid late 70's. When I was a kid. and I have watched them more times then I can remember.
It is what it is. Because they did what they had to do. Too further the story, and the plot line. I just made an observation of how else it could have gone down.
And you thinking . . . You know anything. About what I think or know. Just shows you don't know half as much as you think you do.
8:47 obi-Wan Kenobi remaining neutral with his feelings and immersing himself in the full Mike and tower of the force, specifically the light side is one of the main key reasons to white one. But if he was significantly week of Anakin he would’ve been cut down all the same. They are very stories of Jedi knight in Tyler wants and masters who immersed in self in the middle of the force but it was they are destined to die at the hands of your enemy. Obi-Wan Kenobi worse week as you say did he would’ve fallen just the same. But because he was equal to the chosen one he was able to hold him off and eventually defeat him when an opening provided itself, granted by the weakness and overconfident nature of his former apprentice.
You underestimate my High ground
After all, Kenobi the deer immediately started a fight instead of just talking, to find out the reason for Anakin's transition to the dark side. Moreover, to solve the issue with words instead of angering Anakin, especially with his appearance. He didn't understand how his student really hated the Jedi. That there is a deeper meaning behind those words about building an empire. He did not feel that his friend was still inside, just locked in the dungeon of the dark side, as Qui-Gon would tell him later. Kenobi did not need to involve Padme, and he himself did not need to be a Jedi by the next order, but a real brother and friend who could help Anakin deal with problems before leading to such an outcome. And Yoda is no better. The order itself was doomed by unknowingly awakening the sleeping demon in Anakin, who unleashed his anger, pain, resentment and disappointment on others. Although they could have peacefully resolved the issue, at best, expel Anakin from the order so that he could establish a family life by giving him the opportunity to redeem himself. Although it was clearly the will of the Force that Qui-Gon advised to rely on.
He only won because of his absoloute mastery in form 3 and his knowledge of Anakin's tactics. If he didnt have exactness of either, he would have lost.
What is that supposed to mean? If Anakin could have beaten Obi Wan he would have. He didn't because he couldn't. Obi Wan was the better of the two. Combat is more than speed and strength. There are plenty of football games where the stronger and faster team loses to the slower, smaller team with superior strategy. Obi Wan won because he was better. It's just that simple. Anakin wasn't ready. He beat him again later.
Anakin was like a full grown Tiger attacking a human that had trained him until he turned on his owner.
Interesting question/video idea that just occurred to me: would Sidious have succeeded in bringing about the fall of the Jedi and Republic without Anakin's fall? Obviously Anakin's fall was part of Sidious' plan but if this hadn't worked out, would another individual have been able to replace Anakin. I guess Anakin's powers and abilities were essential to Sidious' plan.
Cant wait for ahsoka series
it might said that how powerful you are, if you don't know to control it, it will end up by destroy yourself.
It's always the high ground
He had the high ground 😂
This reason is High Ground!
Anakin had too much confidence
I really want to get into the books but don’t know where to start. Can someone help? To me 7-9 is not to be mentioned but the sith triumvirate on up is a go
Basically Anakin is the Broly of star wars getting stronger mid fight.