Santa Clause 3: The Escape Clause - Nostalgia Critic
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It's the Christmas sequel most people say doesn't deliver, but let's see if there's any laughs that unintentionally come from this. The Nostalgia Critic reviews Disney's Santa Clause 3: The Escape Clause.
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The Santa Clause 3: The Escape Clause is a 2006 American Christmas fantasy comedy adventure film directed by Michael Lembeck. It is the third and final film in the Santa Clause film series following The Santa Clause and The Santa Clause 2. The film stars Tim Allen returning as Scott Calvin/Santa Claus and Martin Short as Jack Frost.
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Is anyone weirded out how there is absolutely no mention on how when they had a chance to save the life of the original Santa that died in the accident they not only kill him once, but twice?
He broke his neck
@@blufox9000 But that was because he fell off the roof because they yelled at him which startling him and caused him to slip right?
If I was brought back in time right before the assassination of JFK, would I stop it? No, because there is no telling how much changing the death of ANYONE could impact the future. Butterfly affect and shit. Just play it safe, everyone who died in the past should remain dead. Anyways, I just put more thought into that scene than the writers of this pile of yellow snow did.
@@C24U_ so what is the solution then? They are silent whilst fighting? The guy dies no matter what they're doing
He was two weeks from retirement anyways
"The Escape Clause"
If Tim Allen can't escape this movie then what chance do we mere mortals have
thankfully this movie was the end of the series. un like toy story where IT SHOULDVE ENDED WITH THE 3 MOVIE!
Tim Allen and Martin Short gets some serious $$$$$ for Christmas.
100%
We're not bound by contract. I'm pretty sure our odds are good.
You rather die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain
Good thing Jack gets a redemption arc in rise of the guardians.
kevin aaand million fangirls, duh.
All fangirls
@@raisou9750 and Elsa as a girlfriend, according to some
Rise of the Guardians Jack is my favorite Jack Frost
Wasn't that that film about the owls?
"Father in-law Christmas" actually sounds like a sitcom that I would watch.
I was just thinking that! 🤩 (I just saw this movie tonight)
I'd fund real money for that to be a thing. 😃
Yes
I’m just grateful the baby didn’t CGI wink at the camera.
We don't speak of that movie
what is this a reference to?
@@HiioNcArBoN We don't speak its name, but let's just say it's a instructional video for the antichrist.
That’s how it steals your soul.
@@HiioNcArBoN The sequel to one of the most popular Jim Carrey movies.
Seems like everyone in this movie wished their contract had an Escape Clause.
Brendan Lawrence okay, that was extremely clever. If NC ever reads this, I’m sure he’ll wonder how he didn’t think of this joke first and use it in the review
Yanis Kaps Yes, I’m sure child elf #121 might have enjoyed making the flick, but everyone else likely wanted an Escape Clause
Brendans comments is 666, I would have answered there but it would be 667.
Can’t blame them
Bruh, it seems to me the difference between Jack and Alan running Christmas, is bout as different as Trotsky and Stalin running the Soviet Union
"What madman designed that fireplace?"
"You approach the Shivering Isles. Through the door behind me lies the realm of Sheogorath, Prince of Madness, Lord of the Never-There."
I was thinking the same thing! It reminds me so much of the door to the shivering isles. What a great DLC for a fun game
"Welcome.... To the deceptivly derranged mind, of the emperor, Pleagius, The Third!!!!"
"CHEESE"
@Jared Jams The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion.
"You can't see me....you can't see me.... neither can he...no one can see me"
"HOW DARE YOU WALK BETTER THAN ME!"
*Naruto runs*
Legit my favorite part, the look on her face is priceless
First thing I thought, "Did kim possible just do a naruto run?"
the naruto run is actually pretty useful to go against drafts. someone tried it out and posted a video about it
"For god sakes you're not running for Mister Rogers." I need that on a shirt
We definitely need that on a shirt! I am not saying it will solve world hunger, but that shirt will solve world hunger.
That line was classic.
I love Devil Boner, and that's a really comforting line
Same energy as "Fuck me gently with a chainsaw, do I look like Mother Theresa?"
I am so using that line on my wife when she gets stressed out over Christmas. THANKS!!!!!
Should’ve ended with “Shut that door!””
Brown Door
MansLaughter That is a LOVELY Brown Door
@@robertparkhurst4034 Full of whimsy and brown!! 😃😁
mostmelon 😂yep
The only one and true Christmas message is...
shut that door!
No, the real Christmas message is
BROWN DOOR
Or..
A PANTRY DOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRR
I’ll shut that door once you fix this damn door!
You always win when your good
shi444 and put that thing back where it came from! So help me, so help me! End scene.
Is no one else going to comment on this movie "thawing a frozen heart" 7 years before Frozen?
Hey, both are made by Disney
Just...... Let it Go!
And also not by romantic love.
With "warm hugs" too lol
frozen never had a single fucking original thing in it and people need to fucking realize that.
Malcolm: "Did you just use 'Majesty' in describing your work?"
LMAO Oh man, I felt that burn! Its like he was holding that one in for a while! XD
"Remember kids, lampshading your problem totally absolves you of all criticism involving you still doing the thing you lampshaded."
Are we gonna ignore the fact Santa’s new baby at the end was named “Buddy”?
Buddy the Elf, what's your favorite color?
Wait it was named buddy 😲
@@weebnerd578 after his grandpa who was named Buddy...yes.
PTMWontDie2 wow😅
Santa buddies? The dog movie? Loooool
child: "why don't you just chill?"
jack frost: yells "I've invented chill!!"
child: cries "mommy!"
this is my favorite line in the whole movie
Girl grunting: Lilo, Stitch!!!!!!!!!!!
I like how nobody seems to react that both times the snowglobe takes them back, the entire timeline hinges on them 'accidentally' murdering the original santa.
Best line of the movie
“Dude, chill”
“I INVENTED CHILLED!”
The only best line in the movie.
@@gtsgreatteacherscathach5550 no shit Sherlock
Honestly I always enjoyed this movie just for Martin Short's performance, lines like this I can hear in my head after reading them. Even as a kid I found the plot about Santa being overworked and the in-laws coming to visit boring and awkward, but there's something about Martin Short as Jack Frost that is ridiculously fun to watch. Maybe it's because he's the only one in the movie who seems like he's enjoying himself, like watch his song-and-dance routine as Santa, he's clearly having a ball.
@@chuckbatman5 Too bad Martin Short was nominated for a Razzie for his performance. Along with Tim Allen. :( I thought Martin Short as Jack Frost looked like he was having some enjoyment.
@@chuckbatman5 Honestly, while the film definitely has major flaws-like the whole escape clause thing could've been written much better to not seem so silly or tossed in, and Martin Short as Jack Frost was a way, way better villain by a long shot than "rubber santa" who was just annoying and his soldier army made no sense even in a family crazy christmas movie. I wish it had been recieved better and we'd gotten a prequel about the Jack Frost character in all honesty. Also, Curtis is way less annoying 3 than in 2, good god.
"Why does everyone in Canada look like a hostage?"
Oh, sorry, those are Sens fans, that's a common mistake.
Some of them are leafs fans, depending what area you come from
As a non-Canadian and non-NHL fan, fill me in on the joke pls.
@@swampskald2462 Oh, they shot themselves in the foot, got it.
Ottawa, the city that fun forgot
*BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA*
FUCK THE SENS
“You’ve worked hard enough”. How do these always bring tears to my eyes and Christmas Spirit to my heart every. Single. Time. Thank you, Channel Awesome. Thank you, Nostalgia Critic. And Merry Christmas 🎄 ❤️
34:54 "You worked hard enough. Enjoy your time off; you deserve it. We all deserve it." Hit me in the feels so hard. Thanks, man.
"I heard a woman scream!" Best line in the whole review.
That was doug. Shrieking like a raped goat as usual
Arthur Christmas managed to do a similar thing with Santa as the “parent who works too much to see what’s important” and not only did it good, but did it uniquely as well, in a way that fit a Santa character instead of just having Santa pasted over the typical overworked parent.
In Arthur Christmas it’s shown Malcolm wasn’t always like that he just grew kinda obsessive over the years and kept trying to make excuses why he needed to keep working a job he clearly wasn’t cut out for anymore
In other words: Arthur Christmas is what Santa Clause 3 should have been.
Jacob Hess
Yes.
Jacob Hess true
Has Critic done a review of Arthur Christmas?
"ADULT NEEDED"
"I *am* an adult!" (Credit: TeamFourStar)
Martin Shorts favorite scene in the film NO doubt.
13:59 Kim Possible doing the Naruto run filled a void in my soul... that or else it made one. I can't tell which it is.
Kim Possible so adorkable
Every other UA-camr: *Lets play Raid: Shadow Legends!*
Nostalgia Critic: *Stamps.*
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Stamp Critic.
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Even the ads are Nostalgic. Serving the products of yesteryear.
Ideas used to make Frozen:
"Hello my name is Jack Frost and I like warm hugs."
"Love melts a frozen heart."
Or how about we make a sequel to ROTG instead so Jack Frost can finally stand as his own original character rather than be Elsa's bitch?
DreamWorks and Disney own jack frost
NC:”if at 1st You Don’t Succeed,Sut up,Shut up,Shut up,Shut up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
me:we Need That on a Ugly Christmas Sweater
‘You worked hard enough, enjoy your time off, you deserve it, we all deserve it,’ ~ Nostalgia Critic 2019
You don’t need to always have a message, but damn, I really needed this one this year. I’m heading home to see my family. Merry Christmas Doug, and thanks so much.
Cringe.
Joke in The Santa Clause: “We shared a bowl of sugar, did some shots of brown liquor, played with my shotguns, field-dressed a cat, looked for women.”
Joke in The Santa Clause 3: I honestly can’t think of one.
The original is a PG-rated, playfully cynical film that properly counterbalances its Disney brand sweetness. It creates a good dichotomy that makes the emotional moments impactful rather than cheesy.
The sequels are G-rated sugar-fests filled with overacting and an overreliance on cutesiness. Just the fact that they gave the reindeer bigger eyes and a silly gibberish style of talking shows how saccharine the sequels are compared to the original.
the second one would probably be right at home if there was a Hallmark channel for men
The joke in the third one is that Jack Frost murders a girl’s parents in front of her and traps her in a room with their frozen bodies
I still like the second film. It’s just the third one I don’t like.
The only actor I can tolerate overacting from is Jim Carey he is the only actor that constantly gets away with it!
"IT FELT LIKE AMERICA'S MOST WANTED!"
Critic still has PTSD from the Cat in The Hat that he called Kurtis Conrad.
That explains it!
9:41 wait, you are telling me this is from the same director of the movie in which hey go back in time to the first thanksgiving to take Turkeys off the Menu?
That's right, the movie where they go back in time to the first thanksgiving to get turkeys of the menu.
And this is a movie where they go back in time to stop Tim Allen from being Santa Claus
@@edwardjohnston7067 that's right they go back in time TO STOP TIM ALLEN FROM BEING SANTA CLAUSE
I knew someone would make a comment like this 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
Let's just try to remember: Sleep deprivation is no laughing matter.
Yes we should all remember that this is not comedic in any way and anyone who would dare laugh at this has a iq that is very low and should not be regarded with any respect at all because they laugh at things that should be not laughed at in any matter as a person with a very high iq I see that this is depraved of comedy in every form now I have to watch Sesame Street and eat my baby formula
@@GoblinsOfFarmington You're a dick. I laughed at it. I've just known people who didn't take it very seriously, and suffered serious mental and physical health problems because of it. It's just a reminder to everyone to maybe mind their sleep a little more.
I have almost been kicked out of the army twice for my insomnia...
I can sometimes spend a whole week unable to sleep even once.
Honestly...I thought you were joking. Your effort is admirable, but many people fail to see that just because something serious is made fun of, doesn't necessarily mean it's never going to be taken seriously again. I laugh at a lot of offensive jokes but I still take real issues seriously in a serious environment, just as you seem to as well (from what you've said). So I think it's safe to say that perhaps such reminders don't always need to be said. We all know these things and were not going to forget them anytime soon.
@@saviitrius Yeah. To be honest, I have trouble seeing the line between the two a lot of the time. I'm some where on the autistic spectrum, and also have a history of caffeine addiction.
I love Jack Frost in this movie soooo much, he’s so hilariously terrible. I really wish you included his “I INVENTED CHILL!!” line
jack frost used to be my favorite part of this flick
Why did I read this as "I invented chili!"?
@AllyKat29 I still read it as "I invented chilli", it's stuck in my head now, for all of eternity.
I love Jack Frost 🥶 🎅
I prefer Rise of the Guardians Jack Frost over Martin Short Jack Frost
Sucks that they acted like Bernard *didn’t* exist in this film 🎞.
Avery Merrick I always wondered about that, I mean could the elves have murdered him?
Well he did look pretty old for an elf and what happens when you get really old?
Right?
the actor was fired in a wild GAY sex scandal. It shocked the foundations of Hollywood.
He would probably be the one to be there for Santa.
Holy shit, was that Michael Dorn?
Surprised he didn't protest that he wasn't a merry man
@Bartman954
Wait, Michael Dorn? As in Worf The Klingon and the voice of various cartoon characters?! *faints*
The Guy from Gabriel Knight ??!
... and Star Trek?
That amateurish home-footage ending genuinely brought a tear to my eye. It reminded me of my childhood when we'd have all the family round for a get-together and entertain one another for the day. Those days are always so wonderful to look back on and enjoy the memories.
Hope everyone at Channel Awesome had a wonderful Christmas with each other.
Nostalgia critic version: Grinch vs Grinch vs Grinch
easy win for the original with karloff
@@SgtScorpious an instant win for the original and Boris Carloff and his awesome voice.
GrinchOnGrinchOnGrinchOnGrinch
That would be awesome 😎
"Did you just use majesty when describing your work?" -Black Willy Wonka.
The holiday council is like a knock off Rise of the Guardians
Hilariously, this movie came out before Gurdians, so that just shows the difference between the two
I'd say the Adam West Batman version of it
Except the Santa Clause 2 did it about a decade before that movie existed 😑
I was wondering where the gag was going to go at the end. That was adorable.
Did we gloss over the fact that Santa Clause 2 had Toy Santa as child friendly Hitler?
Rewatch the film. Tell me I'm wrong.
Gas the elves
It was Stalin
I say it was more stalin with the black outfit with red logo
You're wrong.
Not Child Friendly Adolf Hitler The Toy Santa was clearly a Child Friendly Joseph Stalin
Malcolm is a treasure! That line read on "he has my sympathies" was amazing
"I wouldn't lie about his chances, he has my sympathies." Was also one of my favorite lines
What are you talking about that was Black Willy Wonka, I didn't see Malcolm anywhere, I did see Chart Guy #2 and Bill, but not Benny or The Devil for some reason.
Alien refrence
When Jack Frost is a freaking Santa he looks like The Cat in the Hat movie
They have the boy from cat in the hat too
34:58 that was honestly one of the best messages for Christmas. I kinda needed that
“Disturbing pause zone” is what is called a “silent moment” to let you laugh
But it’s not funny
so a laugh track, but without the laugh track
Rok Kralj Koleša *YOU GOT IT SISTER*
@@EhlistarsWrath DID YOU JUST ASSUME MY GENDER?!
Rok Kralj Koleša you ruined it
@@EhlistarsWrath I'm starting to think that that sentence describes me a little too well
"I was frozen today"
Yeah. I missed that. :-)
Starters
“Maybe it’s the lack of sleep or just giving into the madness?”
December 20, 2019 everyone
Every single freaking day of 2020 says hello.
Hello from 2020. You had no idea.
"I'm gonna shove coal so far up your stocking, you'll be coughing up diamonds!"
I really love how in the beginning, Hyper Fangirl and Black Willy Wonka were the ones settling up the holiday party instead of the usual chart fellas
Let's check the charts.
But the chart says
Eduardo Lopez 3 SCREW THE CHARTS
Wait, people don't just skip the skits?
@@jakespacepiratee3740 the fuck? the skits are the best part, tamara and malcolm are awesome as hell
13:59
*Naruto running whiny live-action Kim Possible*
I'm scared...
She has too much power now.....
I love how Doug keeps bringing up that star wars Christmas after all these years
Including the house Chewbacca's family lives in in one of the past Nostalgiaween intros
It leaves a mark xD
not lying.... I laughed at the "I'll get a mop" line.....
sleep is for the bread: nostalgia critic 2019.
TheMetalManiac I need that on a shirt
@@hogusbogus7685 same.
The Doug head with swirlies in his eyes is the third scariest thing I've seen this week.
Master Steamy nah. Number 1 has to be Nutcracker in 3D
100th liker
Unnus Annus. UNNUS! ANNUS!
Bernard wasn’t in this. It was gonna suck.
But seriously. This movie is good for only one reason.
The bloopers. Nothing else.
20th liker
Rogue T-Rex OH YES!!!
EASY!
AND.. the closing theme song that follows.. Aly & AJ's The Greatest Time Of Year. I remember seeing this movie in theaters, and hearing that song, I just HAD to get their Acoustic Hearts Of Winter album.
I wish they could've explained Bernard's absence in this movie.
The Jack frost acted from being hugged by a little girl will never be okay with me.
i like when a kid says to jack frost "you need to chill" and hes all "ive invented chill!" then the kid is like "mommy!" crying to her mom
Ok the in laws not noticing how the “Canadians” looked weird I can kinda understand but how the hell did they not get suspicious the second they saw Jack Frost the guy has icicles literally growing off of him
It's cold in Canada.
Not liquid nitrogen cold
@@mrcritical6751 True that's Russia.
What are you talking about Jack Frost looks like a typical Canadian
TheLegonaut I don’t remember ever seeing icicles hanging off of Ryan Reynolds
Why was Kim possible running like a naruto character?
@Saverio Panaccione
Oh good, I don't have to ask...
Somebody please answer cause I wasn’t curious until I read these!😂
She wanted the attention
Gotta admit: Allen and Short did their best to save this film. But the script was just too much to overcome.
I loved it
@@Madallen2002me too
Every year I make a heartfelt Christmas review
Doug a few years ago: makes heavy metal song about Christmas
I mean not the weirdest thing hes done on christmas
the Cannon I play that song every Christmas, nothing puts me in the spirit like it lol
@@trainman5675 true. He once dystroyed a whole universe that loved Christmas more than him/kill a pregnant alien.
I think what Doug means is the last episode before Christmas is usually heartfelt, and the first christmas special every year is usually the craziest...such as the heavy metal christmas song one lol
@@Trevornator Like either last year or the year before where he reviewed Nutcracker in 3D and when he reviewed The Christmas Tree to give a heartfelt message
4:57 That moment you realize that elf was Little Rock in Zombieland 🤯
7:00 The moment you realize Lana was Mother Nature 😱
That ending party scene felt weirdly natural, especially in contrast to the usual over the top and goofy tone of these reviews... good job!
That message literally struck my heart like a gunshot and then I cried during the party footage
Me to.
All I could hear when Mother Nature was talking was "ARCHER!!"
I was checking the comments to see if it's the same actress!
He has grey in his beard now. Perhaps... perhaps he’s matured a little, if only just.
I'm thinking no.
He's almost 40
He's starting to look like Jim Starlin.
Pffffffff, NOPE! XD
I always love an appearance from Devil Boner!!! He's my favourite character!! Even if it's a short one, he's just the best. And him & Tamara make the cutest couple ever. Let's hope they never break up!!
That meeting with all the spirits in the beginning, probably what inspired "Rise of the Guardians"
That was actually really nice. So often Doug has to hammer the message in with a big speech. Sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn’t. But it’s good to see that a strong message can also be delivered with a simple line and some clips of people just having a good time.
Merry Christmas, y’all.
Oh wow, he's skipping the first 2. Going straight to the stinker.
To the stinker it goes
He's already reviews 1
@@Misp7871 Has he? or was that for disneycember?
The First movie is Amazing and The Second movie is good but not better. Without Bernard the movie will be forgotten.
It’s because the first two aren’t bad.
Doubt you'll notice this but MERRY Christmas Doug
They messed up when they forgot the “the” in the trilogy title
This movie came out the same weekend as Flushed Away. Let that sink in.
I let sink in
What does he want know
Flushed Away is hysterical and underrated :)
What the fuck is flushed away
duckiedale80 That too.
"For gods sakes, your not running for Mr. Rodgers!!"
Well said
Theres one thing I don’t understand. How did Jack Frost remain Santa Claus without a Mrs Claus. Isn’t it one of the clauses that Santa has to have a wife
Jack frost is muslim inshallah, he has multiple wives
Need
To
Buy
Stamps
Stamppps... Stammmppps.. What were we talking about? Oh yea, Santa something
That Into the Spider-Verse joke was genius.
I wish he would've reviewed Grumpy Cat's Worst Christmas Ever.
This isn't Christmas related, but I would love it if he reviewed The Indian in the Cupboard and Tall Tale.
Didn't Cinema Snob already review that?
Mordecai, how did the genetic work in your cartoon? You married a female bat and have half-bat and half-regular children
Wish granted
Wish granted! He has!
"The Escape Clause"
I wish I could escape life, so I can finally be happy.
same
I feel you.
Life is a video game...
I'm gonna just keep grinding through this.
Happy to see Bum Reviews make another appearance. Feels like forever.
*goes straight to the third because why not*
He already reviewed the other 2 in disneycember :P
For a brief second I thought your icon was Freddie Mercury's head and neck in a plate of pasta
Well is the worst one. And he in the beginning said than the first 2 are harmless.
"A couple of running noses and some dead Citrus!"
The only joke I laugh at in this movie
29:42. "The Santa Clause 4: ADULT NEEDED."
“Did you just use majesty to describe your work?”
This is the dumbest santa trope
Everyone thinks santa doesn't exist, *BUT HOW THE HECK DO THE ADULTS EXPLAIN THE PRESENTS UNDER THE TREE THAT THEY DIDN'T BUY?!?!*
Edit: OMG this is the most likes I've got on a comment before
Magic?
Well, my folks always told me that they were gifts from their friends or from family that didn't have time to do more than stop by and drop them off. I have a decent-sized family, all of whom now have kids of their own, so it's believable.
Thank you!
WorldWalker128 Not for everyone.
@@WorldWalker128 what if the parent have no friends
As much as I loved this review, I do wish you had ended it with that heartwarming Christmas message "SHUT THAT DOOR!"
13:16 This should have a “You no, 4 kids!” joke.
Not gonna lie, I almost cried when Critic fell asleep at the computer and everybody came into the room.
I could go the rest of my life without ever seeing this film around Christmas.
The first 2 are fine. In fact, the scene in Number 2 at the school Christmas party is actually really endearing.
But 3 is just... pain. Pure pain to sit through.
i second that
Agreed
You should do a full review of “A Charlie Brown Christmas”.
Ben Jackson Both of them!
I finally watched it. Great movie
He technically already did with his editorial
He did and it was a really bad review.
Hahaha, "Why does everybody in Canada look like a hostage? Oh, wait, I've seen your PSAs. This is normal."
Watching the review, I actually kind of thought the "I'll get a mop line" was kind of funny. You don't use mops on fire!
"Am I really that fat?" Nice Toy Story 2 reference!
Nobody: Not a single squeak.
That guy: Reveiw Diehard
Mobile Suit Gundam: Endless Waltz.
Detective peralta: say sike right now
Richie Sahlin we don’t touch anime....not after....THAT review >_>
You predicted the future!
And that sums up my feelings for this film. Honestly, I loved the trilogy as a child and still hold a soft spot for all three films. The third one never seemed awful to me because I too lost myself to the fun and enjoyment this film has to offer.
This is one of my favorite, and I think for similar reasons.
I think this movie is prefectly fine. It was verry well written. Most of the so called plot holes were explained by the movie.
in all honesty i would love to have that kind of fire place just to see the look on peoples faces when they first see it.
Haha, agreed! It must be the _only_ bizarre thing in your house, and you can't mention it at all, leaving them to wonder which of you is insane.
"Did you just use 'majesty' to describe your work?"
Burn?
At LEAST Martin Short was clearly having fun.
I love Martin Short.
And the Santa-bot makeup looks way more painful as Santa he had to wear aging makeup but in Santa Clause 2 he had to wear makeup that made his skin look plastic and wear plastic moulds of a beard and a wig
Review Beauty and the Beast: The Enchanted Christmas.
Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
If he does, then “He’ll never apologize!”
Maybe next year.
my childhood
It's so bad.
Wow I just realized if Scott’s ex wife also got divorced in the Jack Frost timeline for Neil as well, so maybe it’s her and not Scott.
she did actually admit in the second film that being Santa made Scott a better dad
19:12
My name is Doug, and you'll do what I say.
Whoop! Whoop!
My name is doof, and you'll do what I say,
Whoop! whoop!