She was a victim in her own way - she took the fall and was yelled at by the moms for Abby’s choices. Because clearly Melissa can “mind control” Abby, right?
@@oceanblue9122 Okay, but in this instance, the moms had all clearly made a pact that they wouldn't give in to Abby's demands to support the girls and because of the way, Abby treated them. Melissa broke a promise and when she was confronted with that she accused the moms of wanting her dead instead of admitting that she was in the wrong.
AnniBunny Your original point was “on this show.” But anyway, in this case, yes - Melissa should’ve let the moms know. But simultaneously, there are many cases in which Melissa is in no way, shape, or form the person to be blamed, yet she’s still the one to take the fall.
@@oceanblue9122 TBF, in a lot of cases she was also taking advantage of Abby's favoritism towards Maddie. Like, the moms would try and stick together for the girls and Melissa would take advantage of an opportunity given to her by Abby.
AnniBunny They were taking advantage of either. Melissa took advantage of the opportunities given to her kids by Abby, and in return, Abby was the one getting the fame and recognition for “raising stars.” Even though it was Melissa’s kids own hard work and Melissa’s money for classes that also went into making her children the stars that they are, Abby insisted on taking all the credit. In addition, as a teacher, you’re more likely to give opportunities to those who accept them. And Melissa accepted them - if the other moms didn’t, then that’s on them. I always find it funny when the moms complain to Abby about not getting opportunities, yet when they finally get opportunities, they refuse to take them because “it’s unfair to others.” Well, when you take an opportunity, that’s what you’re bound to be doing. By being on the show, you’re taking away spots for another talented young dancer and their mom from being on the show, yet they don’t consider that. When you get an opportunity, you take it because the entertainment industry is cutthroat and you don’t know what opportunity will get you recognized. And that’s what Melissa did, and Abby benefitted though bragging rights and monetary gain. Abby would promote Maddie and pressure her into Masterclasses so people would pay to see her, then she’d take all the money. As Christi said, Abby even made people pay to come to Maddie’s birthday party - that’s how much she used the Zieglers.
The micro aggressions Holly and Nina were forced to endure day after day never sat right with me. The way Jill and the other mothers would gaslight Holly is sickening. If this is what was shown I'd really hate to see what they had to go through behind the scenes. Bless their hearts.
like when jill said holly “needs to learn to be on this team without getting angry” when holly was never angry, just assertive and willing to stand up for her child. when jill and melissa stood up for their kids no one called them “angry” “selfish” or “crazy” but when it was holly it became a problem
@@astralwishes13 mhm. the producers and some of the moms (albeit maybe unconsciously) were trying to put holly & nia into the stereotypical angry black woman trope, but it never worked.
Ngl, the way they act around Melissa, I’d feel the same way. Christi already ruined Melissa’s reputation after she spoke about a supposed affair, a car crash wouldn’t be completely unexpected.
Well when someone humiliates and reveals personal information about you on national television and constantly argues with you and calls you all sorts of names, that mindset isn’t completely uncalled for. Maybe it’s just because I’m pessimistic but I’d feel the same way 🤷🏽♀️ Better to expect the worst than to blindly hope for the best. If it’s clear that someone doesn’t like me, that’s fine. It’s whatever to me but I’d expect nothing but the worst from someone like that.
I totally feel for Nia. I’m always the friend who was left out, the least favourite. I’ve tried to make plans with my friends and they’ve told me they’re busy, and I’ve then found out through social media that they went without me. This has happened constantly over 5 years, and I kept giving them chances, but now I know it’s time to move on. I deserve better.
Same I been without friends for 4 years because they used to do the same to me or hit me up when it benefited them. Now I am at peace and I really enjoy my own company
alisa Yes they did eventually become friends, but it was still wrong of Holly to say that about Jojo. I’m not judging her too much from it because I’m aware that some scenes are heavily edited or that Holly might have been pressured to start up drama, but it still felt weird hearing those words come from Holly - one of the more accepting moms. It also upset me when she mocked Yolanda and didn’t help stand up for Camryn.
@@oceanblue9122 definitely. I was actually always a melissa fan, dance and reality TV are a cut throat business, and she was just doing what she needed to do. Good point.
She was telling the truth though lol I’d be damned if I took an opportunity away from my daughter over a stupid “pact”. I’m not a 3rd grader. What type of grown women sit upstairs and make “pacts”. It’s makes no logical sense and it’s childish.
Kelly needs to understand that just because your friend disagrees with the way you handled a certain situation doesnt mean that they are against you. Friends are supposed to hold you accountable for your actions and tell you when youve done something wrong. Having a friend tell you that you are right all of the time isnt considered to be a real friendship.
@@Marceelinho09Absolutely, but Abby already favored Maddie and gave her opportunities even when she was mad at Melissa. Melissa didn't have to be shady with her friends to advance Maddie's career when Abby was doing that either way.
Tammy and Christy (S4): **body slamming each other and make a mess** Abby: *:O* Michelle (S8): **walks in dressing room to speak with Abby** Abby: *Police.*
Dr. Holly by far has to be my favorite dance mom and it’s probably because of her education. She uses logic in her arguments and has a well structured argument that uses facts rather than emotion even though it might be driven by emotion and/or opinion. She doesn’t feel the need to curse and she always has all the kids in mind first over the drama because she actually cares about the children.
Like any other mom. If you were a mom, who’d come first: friends you might not even see after some years, or the mental health and opportunities of your own children?
@@oceanblue9122 I agree but for example Melissa shouldn't have said she wasnt going to send her kids when she knew 100% she was. It wasn't really necessary for her to lie. But again I agree with you
Ann Marie Madoo-Chambers I honestly feel like Melissa lied because the moms got mad at her for everything. When she told them the truth from the beginning (like telling the moms that she took Maddie and Kenzie to an agent,) the moms threw a tantrum and asked why they didn’t tell them earlier - like, it’s Melissa’s kids? Why does Melissa have to tell them where she takes her kids? When she stays quiet (like when she doesn’t want to reveal he story about her ring,) the moms keep pressuring her and pushing her to reveal her personal information. When Melissa stays quiet about her divorce on national tv, the moms still pressure her to talk and pester her until she gives in or storms out. So in order to avoid confrontation, she’s forced to lie. If the moms weren’t so absorbed in her life and instead focus more on their own kids, then Melissa wouldn’t have to lie, and can instead peacefully do what’s best for her kids. The funniest thing is, when Kelly left to get a singing opportunity for a Brooke and didn’t tell the moms, then the moms were happy for her. But when Melissa does it, it’s a crime?
when the dance moms fight Christie :going to the bar Kelly :threatening to leave the team Holly :getting the kids out of the room Melissa : calling her lawyer Jill :going to candy apples abby: scared
The way Melissa overdramatized everything and then would make every situation about her children when the other moms very clearly pointed out that it was an issue between THEM is so sad. They were having arguments between adult women and Melissa made it somehow about her children and always ran to Abby. It’s so sad and I hope her girls are loved and feeling confident despite some of Melissa’s actions
Dr. Holly is so stinking awesome. Love Her Majesty and how she handles her business!! Nia is so fortunate to have her as a mom...she is learning how to "woman" from one of the best!👑
I kind of agree with Kelly a little. You have to remember that these moms have other children to take care of, they are married, have houses to take care of, etc. so for Christi to act like a high school teenager and BASICALLY say “if I don’t answer your phone calls come to my house,” that’s ridiculous and childish. That’s also very cunning, to LOOK at your phone, KNOW the exact date and time your friend called you and “test them,” versus calling them back like an adult.
I think Christi was just going through something and wanted to feel like Kelly was her real friend and cared enough but forgot Kelly had her own life going on. I’m glad they are friends again and I hope Kelly’s cancer heals fast and fully.
Abby did treat the Zeiglers bad but not as worst as nia and Holly and honestly Abby did treat all the kids bad but the producers made Abby lovvvvvvve the Zeiglers more for drama 🎭
@@danny-4xz2 wrong she loved them more in real life, the producers couldn’t make her favor anyone and she was never mean or treated them bad, she gave maddie the best dances and one every week and made sure she got a lot of opportunities
@@maryamalr3196 I agree. She was pretty nice to them, although she could be less kind to Kenzie in favor of Maddie but she was so cruel to like all the other girls. It’s awful
the way that holly has NEVER cursed abby out on the show, and the worst thing she's called abby to her face is a "monster" or something like that says a lot about holly's maturity and character
I think of when Melissa said...season 1 episode 1 I think it was. She said “I don’t do anything for my daughter to win. She does that on her own” she said something like that. And I’m like...BULLS**T!
@@meganalexis6346 don’t say that like what she did was selfless acts for her kids.. her kids weren’t even able to have a normal childhood. Most of their childhood was working and working, maddy even said all the trophies she won she threw away. Melissa picked their lives for them when they were so little. She wanted her kids to get ahead to benefit herself as much as it does them 💰 💴
@@augustharper15 she was trying to get there names out there. It made Maddie happy. At some point it made kenzie happy. They both did what made them happy and when they could they got out. They both still dance even tho it isn't for competition. She was trying to make her kids happy, competition dance just wasnt the way for them. So I'll say what I want❤
What I will say is Holly is a good one to have stayed the entire time while enduring all they endured, Nia being constantly looked over, given stereotypical roles, etc. I commend her for staying professional and always having her daughters back and speaking up when she needed too.
@pug children rodriguez 2010 they are now, they were seen together taking a pic and in 2019 Melissa and Christy were also seen in a photo Chloe also said she is still friends with her but they are far away from each other so they don’t see each other often
Ok first of all Melissa is the one that fights dirty not Christi because unlike Christi, Melissa and Jill always go behind everyone backs just so they can get their kids ahead
Put your kids career before friendship isn’t a bad thing, if Melissa told the moms early the got angry and if she didn’t tell they got angry too, I will do the same thing, see for my own child like every other mom, they just made the “pact” cuz their kids were not the favorite ones
@@mendozagarciatrymardelrosa2606 your opinion,but melissa was still sly.She'd go behind her freinds back just to make maddie look better.Its also unfair how macz didnt get treated the same as maddie BY melissa
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Melissa can talk all this but can’t it take it back like she goes I’m very happy that Kendall and maddie are doing a duo straight away complains to Abby 😂 and couldn’t deal with it when the moms questioned her
jess wasn’t wrong when she said what she did to melissa , she does think she’s better then the other moms and clearly thought her kids we’re better too and only reason melissa never stood up to abby , is because she favoured maddie .
melissa literally was on Holly’s side when she said “you always do” in response to abby saying sometimes she can go to the extreme. 😭and i think Holly really took that completely out of context in tht moment
@@briersmall5352 true but then the fact that christie kept bringing up melissa’s personal relationship stuff on tv is so rude and weird behavior😂 like wow why do you feel the need to keep bringing it up it’s just a dance my god
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@@kaeliamorrison9713 ;)
Why did Abby go to jail
@@vaanyabhutoria8462 i think for frod
Holly is so educated that she leaves Abby speechless. She is really the only mom whose words actually effect her.
ong
The whole monstrosity of evil insult was legendary 😂
Except jess. shes fair and nice almost all the time.
And the best part is that she never curses anybody. Thats why she is one of the best dance moms.
@@yogurl1913 What?? What show are you watching??? Please keep watching. Guarantee your mind will be changed.
Melissa's victim mentality on this show is so annoying lol
She was a victim in her own way - she took the fall and was yelled at by the moms for Abby’s choices.
Because clearly Melissa can “mind control” Abby, right?
@@oceanblue9122 Okay, but in this instance, the moms had all clearly made a pact that they wouldn't give in to Abby's demands to support the girls and because of the way, Abby treated them. Melissa broke a promise and when she was confronted with that she accused the moms of wanting her dead instead of admitting that she was in the wrong.
AnniBunny
Your original point was “on this show.”
But anyway, in this case, yes - Melissa should’ve let the moms know. But simultaneously, there are many cases in which Melissa is in no way, shape, or form the person to be blamed, yet she’s still the one to take the fall.
@@oceanblue9122 TBF, in a lot of cases she was also taking advantage of Abby's favoritism towards Maddie. Like, the moms would try and stick together for the girls and Melissa would take advantage of an opportunity given to her by Abby.
AnniBunny
They were taking advantage of either.
Melissa took advantage of the opportunities given to her kids by Abby, and in return, Abby was the one getting the fame and recognition for “raising stars.”
Even though it was Melissa’s kids own hard work and Melissa’s money for classes that also went into making her children the stars that they are, Abby insisted on taking all the credit.
In addition, as a teacher, you’re more likely to give opportunities to those who accept them. And Melissa accepted them - if the other moms didn’t, then that’s on them.
I always find it funny when the moms complain to Abby about not getting opportunities, yet when they finally get opportunities, they refuse to take them because “it’s unfair to others.”
Well, when you take an opportunity, that’s what you’re bound to be doing. By being on the show, you’re taking away spots for another talented young dancer and their mom from being on the show, yet they don’t consider that. When you get an opportunity, you take it because the entertainment industry is cutthroat and you don’t know what opportunity will get you recognized.
And that’s what Melissa did, and Abby benefitted though bragging rights and monetary gain. Abby would promote Maddie and pressure her into Masterclasses so people would pay to see her, then she’d take all the money. As Christi said, Abby even made people pay to come to Maddie’s birthday party - that’s how much she used the Zieglers.
the thing about holly is she fights smart. she doesn’t curse but she shuts you up with her intelligence.
Thats why we stan Holly
The power she holds
No she’s cussed before lol
@@backwoodsbubbabrown3556 i don't doubt that buts she rarely does. she doesn't need to to cuss to prove a point, she's just so smart
@@vivikikeri4370 but she has stooped to low level and no one holds her accountable and just calls her “ so smart”. She’s mediocre at best
“If Kelly doesn’t come back, that just means more solos for Kendall.” Jill cracks me up with her little Kendall 💀
SAME 💀
Jill: Did you talk about us?
Holly: Yeah.
Jill: 👁👄👁
she rlly said: *But my little kendall fits right in perfectly*
that part made me laugh 😭
Lol
*Awkward silence*
i had to rewind it and watch it again it’s so funny
when holly raised her voice and said "NO YOU'RE MISSING THE POINT" i got chills ngl
plsss same
I know don’t mess with dr holly
Exactly
time stamp?
You could feel the hurt in her voice
The micro aggressions Holly and Nina were forced to endure day after day never sat right with me. The way Jill and the other mothers would gaslight Holly is sickening. If this is what was shown I'd really hate to see what they had to go through behind the scenes. Bless their hearts.
Nia*
like when jill said holly “needs to learn to be on this team without getting angry” when holly was never angry, just assertive and willing to stand up for her child. when jill and melissa stood up for their kids no one called them “angry” “selfish” or “crazy” but when it was holly it became a problem
@@astralwishes13 mhm. the producers and some of the moms (albeit maybe unconsciously) were trying to put holly & nia into the stereotypical angry black woman trope, but it never worked.
Leave Kelly alone
@@ravenbaa7989 what are you yapping about
when Melissa told the moms that they probably wish she would die in a car accident really shows how manipulative she is
why would melissa say that the other moms want her to get in a car crash? that’s ridiculous
Ikr it was just scary and bizzare😶
Melissa constantly tries to become the victim when she gets call out
@@jeana8058 but that was extremely unnecessary
Ngl, the way they act around Melissa, I’d feel the same way.
Christi already ruined Melissa’s reputation after she spoke about a supposed affair, a car crash wouldn’t be completely unexpected.
Well when someone humiliates and reveals personal information about you on national television and constantly argues with you and calls you all sorts of names, that mindset isn’t completely uncalled for. Maybe it’s just because I’m pessimistic but I’d feel the same way 🤷🏽♀️ Better to expect the worst than to blindly hope for the best. If it’s clear that someone doesn’t like me, that’s fine. It’s whatever to me but I’d expect nothing but the worst from someone like that.
I could so see Holly and Jess as friends, their kids are constantly overseen and ridiculed by Abby. Nia and Jojo are also an iconic duo.
Abby treated those girls so bad and Jojo and Nina are some of the most successful girls that are still respectful to Abby unlike some of the others
@@jeana8058
I don’t blame anyone who chooses not to talk to Abby. Toxic relationships are meant to be broken.
JoJo was never overseen kendall was on probation more than anyone jojo got a sole first day there
Pri C
100% agreed.
Lizzy B
So did Kendall.
I totally feel for Nia. I’m always the friend who was left out, the least favourite. I’ve tried to make plans with my friends and they’ve told me they’re busy, and I’ve then found out through social media that they went without me. This has happened constantly over 5 years, and I kept giving them chances, but now I know it’s time to move on. I deserve better.
Same I been without friends for 4 years because they used to do the same to me or hit me up when it benefited them. Now I am at peace and I really enjoy my own company
peace, love, light to you
I relate with you so much
U deserve better 💕🥹
From someone who’s been in that position, I hope it’s easier for you with time
kelly: “nobody backs me”
jill: “i back you, just not verbally”
so you back her up in your mind?😂
Her soul does
like what she was trying to say with abby. “well i called you” okay but that’s not backing her up?? jill amazes me with her intelligence hahaha
I'm dying 🤣🤣🤣🤣
LMFAOOO 😂😂😂
Freaking Jill
She's so involuntary hilarious
Hahahahahahaha
All I know is holly is right
I don't know why they argue with her. They ended up just looking like fools😂
EXACTLY
In every season except Season 5. Then she’d shame Jojo and talk about how she was taking away opportunities.
@@oceanblue9122 no it was true but they became friends
alisa
Yes they did eventually become friends, but it was still wrong of Holly to say that about Jojo.
I’m not judging her too much from it because I’m aware that some scenes are heavily edited or that Holly might have been pressured to start up drama, but it still felt weird hearing those words come from Holly - one of the more accepting moms.
It also upset me when she mocked Yolanda and didn’t help stand up for Camryn.
Melissa saying I did nothing wrong is like me saying I did my homework lol
YEEEEESSSSSS
😂
@@oceanblue9122 definitely. I was actually always a melissa fan, dance and reality TV are a cut throat business, and she was just doing what she needed to do. Good point.
Why is everyone hating on Melissa but not talking about how crazy holly is acting 3:59
She was telling the truth though lol I’d be damned if I took an opportunity away from my daughter over a stupid “pact”. I’m not a 3rd grader. What type of grown women sit upstairs and make “pacts”. It’s makes no logical sense and it’s childish.
" honey if I had lips the size of f***ing Texas I would"
So iconic. So so so iconic.
Ahh I bursted out laughing at that point.x
Jill thinking she’s an OG. Has me weak.
This comment has me weak lmaooo
Where did Jill say she's an OG?
And she is not
Jill: heats up the conversation
also Jill: PLEASE DON'T LEAVE
Somthing I hate abt Jill that she is always like “iF tHiS pErSoN lEaVeS mOrE sOlOs fOr kEnDAl” like-
she’s super manipulative
ONG JILL TOLD ABBY ABOUT IT. WHAT DID SHE EXPECT??
She's always the pot-stirrer and then the professional victim
I swear everytime she opens her mouth she makes things worst
They all say Holly is going to fall but she and nia were the longest standing og. :)
Yasssss!
yes! all stan queen Holly!
Kelly needs to understand that just because your friend disagrees with the way you handled a certain situation doesnt mean that they are against you. Friends are supposed to hold you accountable for your actions and tell you when youve done something wrong. Having a friend tell you that you are right all of the time isnt considered to be a real friendship.
Has anyone noticed that every single time Jill claims that she has someone’s back she definitely 100% does not?
Melissa is always saying we’re not in higschool but she’s basically like the teachers pet..
Lmao 😂
I agree... She's not in high school, she's in preschool. All that tattling and manipulation TO BE teacher's pet. You called it
Yessss
She is the teachers pet.
Lmao
holly is the realest mom on the team. the one mom who confronted abby only when it was necessary.
Exactly and she stood up by herself
I mean...Christi did the same
Holly is the only adult in the room.
@@berrisfueller6221 True she did, but Holly was more educated and was nicer I feel Christi and Holly could relate to eachother tho
@@berrisfueller6221 yeah but she was really yelly
The fact that holly can roast anyone with out cursing??? Thats insane.
Holly is so educated that she leaves Abby Speechless She is really the only Mom those words actually effect her.
Bro imagine copying
JILL AND HOLLY EAVESDROPPING AT THE DOOR WHEN CHRISTI AND KELLY WERE ARGUING IS WHAT KEEPS ME GOING
Time?
33:33
ME TOO BESTIEEEE
@@suhana250 YESSSS
Same😂😂😂
Even though she’s yelling, Holly looks gorgeous in the thumbnail
holly is always looking beautiful. She is stunning
@@fixtureofthesun YESS
she always looks gorgeous. a real modest beautiful black women
She's always beautiful 😍 inside and out 🥰
It's the dimples.. even cranky she looks sweet
“Their negativity rubs off on the children”
The audacity of that coming out of ABBY’S mouth 🤯 👁👄👁
I know right she is negativity impersonified 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I would rather die than be friends with someone like Melissa
how is this not pinned
If your child was as promising and naturally talented as Maddie, it would be dumb on your part not to have their career as a priority.
@@Marceelinho09Absolutely, but Abby already favored Maddie and gave her opportunities even when she was mad at Melissa. Melissa didn't have to be shady with her friends to advance Maddie's career when Abby was doing that either way.
Tammy and Christy (S4): **body slamming each other and make a mess**
Abby: *:O*
Michelle (S8): **walks in dressing room to speak with Abby**
Abby: *Police.*
She was even recording 😂😂
Lmao that's trueeeeee
@@grace-ge7wt yes 😭💀🤚
IKR🤣🤣🤣 i died of laughing!!!!!!!
"TaMmY mY hAiR"
10 mins ago
my battery: 1%
me: *turns this on*
my battery: i'll wait.
Lol 😆🤣
🤣🤣
😂😂🤣🤣same
Wait why is this me rn🕳👩🦯
Lol 😆
Dr. Holly by far has to be my favorite dance mom and it’s probably because of her education. She uses logic in her arguments and has a well structured argument that uses facts rather than emotion even though it might be driven by emotion and/or opinion. She doesn’t feel the need to curse and she always has all the kids in mind first over the drama because she actually cares about the children.
Jill: *tattles on the other moms like a child specifically to stir the pot*
Also Jill: “I think this was just a misunderstanding”
Maddie and Chloe: best duo
Christi and Kelly: legendary duo👌
✋🏽😌✨
😌💅✨
besssss friend goalssss 💅😉
@@brookebennett8963 yesss ✋🏽
Christi and Kelly is the worst
"BROKEN Pacts, HUGE Betrayals"
These titles are getting better every time I swear
Yes, yes they are 😎
RIGHT PLSS
Its pronunced uge if u know u know
You Mean "UUUGEE"?
@@Pillow_Will77 and @Lamin Jaiteh my apologies. How foolish of me
“You broke our pack “
“You hate my kids and wish I would die”
Ok melissa calm down 👁👄👁
They do like your kids melissa😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂
pact*
Geez Melissa can be really dramatic
Man, DOCTOR HOLLY IS EVERYTHING. What a wonderful mother.
I can’t get over about how at 17:55 Tami ripped out one of the mom’s weave and she was like “Tami my hair!!!”
Same LMAO 😭
Lmaoooo, the fact that she was just mad because Tami ripped her weave, everyone was arguing while she was shouting Tami cuz if her weave 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
And the fact that they dunked the whole row of Abby Lee Dance Company clothes drop, lmaoooooooooooo
And how the man was putting him hand in Tami’s clothes, he was pulling it so bad lmaoooooo
did you guys hear the punch animation 🤣🤣
Melissa has proved time and time again, that compared to her relationship with Abby, she doesn’t care about her friendship with the other moms
Like any other mom.
If you were a mom, who’d come first: friends you might not even see after some years, or the mental health and opportunities of your own children?
@@oceanblue9122 I agree but for example Melissa shouldn't have said she wasnt going to send her kids when she knew 100% she was. It wasn't really necessary for her to lie. But again I agree with you
@@annmariemadoo-chambers2939 you dont know if she even said that, producers sometimes set stuff up
Ann Marie Madoo-Chambers
I honestly feel like Melissa lied because the moms got mad at her for everything.
When she told them the truth from the beginning (like telling the moms that she took Maddie and Kenzie to an agent,) the moms threw a tantrum and asked why they didn’t tell them earlier - like, it’s Melissa’s kids? Why does Melissa have to tell them where she takes her kids?
When she stays quiet (like when she doesn’t want to reveal he story about her ring,) the moms keep pressuring her and pushing her to reveal her personal information. When Melissa stays quiet about her divorce on national tv, the moms still pressure her to talk and pester her until she gives in or storms out.
So in order to avoid confrontation, she’s forced to lie. If the moms weren’t so absorbed in her life and instead focus more on their own kids, then Melissa wouldn’t have to lie, and can instead peacefully do what’s best for her kids.
The funniest thing is, when Kelly left to get a singing opportunity for a Brooke and didn’t tell the moms, then the moms were happy for her. But when Melissa does it, it’s a crime?
I mean I wouldn’t care about a “friendship” with a bunch of people who probably don’t even like me either. At best we’d be acquaintances 🤷🏽♀️
when the dance moms fight
Christie :going to the bar
Kelly :threatening to leave the team
Holly :getting the kids out of the room
Melissa : calling her lawyer
Jill :going to candy apples
abby: scared
🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂
The way Melissa overdramatized everything and then would make every situation about her children when the other moms very clearly pointed out that it was an issue between THEM is so sad. They were having arguments between adult women and Melissa made it somehow about her children and always ran to Abby. It’s so sad and I hope her girls are loved and feeling confident despite some of Melissa’s actions
Melissa is such a victim like even Jill kept her promise
Ikr kendall could've gotten a solo yet she kept her promise and Melissa didn't
It was manufactured, Melissa wasn't actually a victim
She is not
@@UnsteadyDizzy proof? cause yall be saying anything
@@naegitoes3896 Look up if dance moms was manufactured and it will say it was. That's the proof
I feel so sorry for Holly the only people that stood up for her were Christie and also Jess 😓
And kelly
Dr. Holly is so stinking awesome. Love Her Majesty and how she handles her business!! Nia is so fortunate to have her as a mom...she is learning how to "woman" from one of the best!👑
Not Melissa saying the other moms hope she dies then immediately claiming she never said they hated her😭☠️
Collect your “I don’t watch dance moms I just watch these clips” ticket here 😎
Edit: don’t worry! We just restocked tickets
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@Pr3tty_LyN what’s wrong with gacha?
@Pr3tty_LyN uhh whats wrong with gacha?
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i loved when holly/nia and jess/jojo had each others backs bc they were both pushed to the back and stood up for one another
The fact that Kelly, Christi and Holly were always put last with Abby, is beyond sickening
True!
I kind of agree with Kelly a little. You have to remember that these moms have other children to take care of, they are married, have houses to take care of, etc. so for Christi to act like a high school teenager and BASICALLY say “if I don’t answer your phone calls come to my house,” that’s ridiculous and childish. That’s also very cunning, to LOOK at your phone, KNOW the exact date and time your friend called you and “test them,” versus calling them back like an adult.
I love Christi and Kelly but I thought the whole feud was pretty much over nothing and it was pretty stupid why they were fighting to begin with
I think Christi was just going through something and wanted to feel like Kelly was her real friend and cared enough but forgot Kelly had her own life going on. I’m glad they are friends again and I hope Kelly’s cancer heals fast and fully.
Jill: did u talk about us?
Holy: Yeah
Jill:*😮🔫*
holy can be a baddie and a good guy at the same timd proof:
Melissa shouldn’t be saying Holly should just “back down” are you serious? your children don’t get treated nearly as bad as Nia and JoJo
Abby did treat the Zeiglers bad but not as worst as nia and Holly and honestly Abby did treat all the kids bad but the producers made Abby lovvvvvvve the Zeiglers more for drama 🎭
@@danny-4xz2 wrong she loved them more in real life, the producers couldn’t make her favor anyone and she was never mean or treated them bad, she gave maddie the best dances and one every week and made sure she got a lot of opportunities
@@maryamalr3196 I agree. She was pretty nice to them, although she could be less kind to Kenzie in favor of Maddie but she was so cruel to like all the other girls. It’s awful
Holly is a real trooper love her she taught her daughter manners and whats right! she’s extremely educated I love her! shes a role model
Kelly’s momma bear energy is everything
Kelly, Christi and Holly are the ULITIMATE DUO, no one can change my mind.
Yeah I can...it would be a trio since its 3 of them lol not a duo. But regardless those 3 carried the entire show!!!!
@@antoniomoonesar1954 SPELLING MISTAKE OOF-
@@lovinqsav mistakes happen ahaha atleast you spoke facts!!!
Those 3 are my favorite
@@antoniomoonesar1954 why not Melissa and Jill
Jill makes everyrhing about herself
.......oh... and her little Kendall DON’T FORGET ABOUT HER LITTLE KENDALL
😆
🤣🤣
jess is hilarious. “let them talk to her; they know her”😭
Holly is so upfront and honest 💛
“did you talk about us?”
“yea.”
@Pamela Kharaka 0:36
holly. is. a. queen.
Yes
X3
FACTSSSS👏👏👏
Period...........
FACTS.
is anyone else DYING over kelly saying “don’t leave” with literally no emotion 😂
I thought I was the only one! 😂 she like didn’t care at that point.
YEA
the way that holly has NEVER cursed abby out on the show, and the worst thing she's called abby to her face is a "monster" or something like that says a lot about holly's maturity and character
Me to my school test: I LoOk At YoU aNd I’m DiSguStEd🙄
Lol me toooo
Lmaooooooooooooooooooo
@@nataliaseneviratne6535 😭😭✋🏼
MEE 🤣😭
@@avahernandez9649 ?
@@vspaldc356 this comment is underrated
abby : they are an embarrassment to women, an embarrassment to the abby lee dance company and an embarrassment to me
her fight with kelly : 👁👄👁
Also her: a felon
"If Kelly doesn't come back, that just means more solos for Kendall."
yea.... way to be a team player Jill.
"I liked you better when you're on mute" 😭😭😭 Word Holly! 👏🏾
I cannot be the only person that died laughing when Tammy pulled out that woman’s hair before fighting Christy
I was rolling round my bed laughing my head off
@@pippa2361 Tammy said imma pull out that weave
When Christy said bite me and she said hunny if I had lips the size of Texas I would I DIED 😭😂😂😂😂😂
I yelled😭
Melissa: Abby treats my kids well because I’m always on her side.
Now we all know what Melissa did to get her daughters ahead.
Shes just trying to keep her kids happy🤷♀️
@@meganalexis6346 Yh I know but it’s still wrong of her to choose sides with Abby when Abby insults the other kids. I respect your opinion tho
I think of when Melissa said...season 1 episode 1 I think it was. She said “I don’t do anything for my daughter to win. She does that on her own” she said something like that. And I’m like...BULLS**T!
@@meganalexis6346 don’t say that like what she did was selfless acts for her kids.. her kids weren’t even able to have a normal childhood. Most of their childhood was working and working, maddy even said all the trophies she won she threw away. Melissa picked their lives for them when they were so little. She wanted her kids to get ahead to benefit herself as much as it does them 💰 💴
@@augustharper15 she was trying to get there names out there. It made Maddie happy. At some point it made kenzie happy. They both did what made them happy and when they could they got out. They both still dance even tho it isn't for competition. She was trying to make her kids happy, competition dance just wasnt the way for them. So I'll say what I want❤
What I will say is Holly is a good one to have stayed the entire time while enduring all they endured, Nia being constantly looked over, given stereotypical roles, etc. I commend her for staying professional and always having her daughters back and speaking up when she needed too.
Don't we just love how Jill always makes her own solos for Kendall🤣
Last time I was this early Kenzie could have been lost at sea
Omgg when I seen that I died LAUGHING
IM DEAD 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Tbh, with all the drama Holly has not said one bad word. She's been there the longest. But The others
*NOOOOOOOOOO*
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I love how Holly handles herself with Abby - the way that Jill loves fur
i love how holly can shut everyone up without cursing 👏
Idk why but it always cracks me up at 14:28 when Christi goes, "I didn't lay down the gauntlet!" and Jill goes, "wHaT's ThE gAuNtLeT?!"
Who misses Maddie and Choe being best friends
@pug children rodriguez 2010 Yh I know do they but they aren’t as close as they use to be in the beginning of dance moms
@pug children rodriguez 2010 no I just want them to be best friends again that’s all
@pug children rodriguez 2010 they are now, they were seen together taking a pic and in 2019 Melissa and Christy were also seen in a photo Chloe also said she is still friends with her but they are far away from each other so they don’t see each other often
Meh
Chloe is better off without Maddie someone she can't trust
Jill was such a snake. Holly is such a gorgeous and composed woman…just an amazing role model as a mother
Jill was really out here starting mess for no reason. “Well, they have this pact”
“Well actually, idk about the pact, care to explain, Holly?”
Broke my heart seeing holly betrayed like that. Everything that came out of her mouth was straight facts
Ok first of all Melissa is the one that fights dirty not Christi because unlike Christi, Melissa and Jill always go behind everyone backs just so they can get their kids ahead
"A perfect opportunity for my little kendal"
Put your kids career before friendship isn’t a bad thing, if Melissa told the moms early the got angry and if she didn’t tell they got angry too, I will do the same thing, see for my own child like every other mom, they just made the “pact” cuz their kids were not the favorite ones
@@mendozagarciatrymardelrosa2606 your opinion,but melissa was still sly.She'd go behind her freinds back just to make maddie look better.Its also unfair how macz didnt get treated the same as maddie BY melissa
Tbh both were immature at least Christi was funny
Jill at least admits to it. Melissa just lies and acts innocent.
Jill always finds a way to make everything about her and Kendall when it’s not
Lmaoo Holly🤣
“I like you better when your on mute”
“I like you better when you’re on mute”😂
I-
Go queen Holly👑
How on mute Abby 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣😗😗😗😘😘😘😍😍😍🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😗😗😗😗😗😗😙😙😙😙😚😚😚😚😚🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😍😘😘😗🙄😏😙😥☺☺😚😚☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺🙂☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺😙😙😙😙😙😙😗😗😗😗😗😗😗😘😘😘😘😍😍😍🤔🤔🤔🤔
That line had me crying 😭😭😭😭
Why am I so addicted to these dance mom clips!!!😭😭😂😂
Ikr, I don’t even like this show but I can’t stop
The drama
holly is a queen.
no one is ever happy for nia, and the moment holly even slightly celebrates her child, she’s bragging.
Holly is my fav, she’s such a classy real Queen! ♥️
I love how Abby started to record the other moms fighting 😂😂
yeahh
her face too 😭😭
I wish kelly and christi were there to back holly up because they were true friends
I like how Jill stirs the pot and then acts like she really didn't want that to happen
Melissa can talk all this but can’t it take it back like she goes I’m very happy that Kendall and maddie are doing a duo straight away complains to Abby 😂 and couldn’t deal with it when the moms questioned her
jess wasn’t wrong when she said what she did to melissa , she does think she’s better then the other moms and clearly thought her kids we’re better too and only reason melissa never stood up to abby , is because she favoured maddie .
if we’re being completely honest kelly and christi were the most iconic duo
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Absolutely
melissa literally was on Holly’s side when she said “you always do” in response to abby saying sometimes she can go to the extreme. 😭and i think Holly really took that completely out of context in tht moment
Remember this show is HEAVILY edited
@@briersmall5352 true but then the fact that christie kept bringing up melissa’s personal relationship stuff on tv is so rude and weird behavior😂 like wow why do you feel the need to keep bringing it up it’s just a dance my god
"if Kelly doesn't come back, that means for solos for Kendall"
woman is in another world
Tammy wanted ALL THE SMOKE at 18:00 😂
yep she did and christy was screaming even though she threw the bag😂😂
WHY THEY ALL FIGHT AND HUGGING THERE CRAZY THEN JILL
Holly was just drinking soda while all the other moms were drinking wine 🤣. Why I love Holly and more ❤️❤️💯
Jill absolutely LOVES the drama!!!!
Melissa and nias relationship is so underrated tho
This entire video was simply Holly being the ULTIMATE QUEEN✨👑✨ for 34 minutes straight
Last time I was this early Kendell was gonna be Rosa Parks 👀
😂😂😂😂
HELPPPP
Holly speaking like a queen 23:06
Jill: what does that mean 😂😢😂😂😢