Analyzing Evil: Amon Göth (Goeth) From Schindler's List
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- Опубліковано 8 бер 2021
- Welcome everyone to the episode of Analyzing Evil! Our feature villain for this video is Amon Goeth the real world commandant of the Plaszow Labror camp and villain from Schindler's List. I hope you enjoy, and thanks for watching. If you have any feedback or questions feel free to let me know below!
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Oskar Schindler, The Untold Account of His Life, Wartime Activities, and the True Story Behind the List: www.amazon.com/Oskar-Schindle...
Daily Mail Article on Amon: www.pressreader.com/uk/daily-...
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The L with a line diagonally through it, is pronounced in Polish as English would a W. So the actual pronunciation is Pwashov. Zlote is Zwote, that kind of thing.
I'm not Roxana (who is Polish) I'm her English husband, who knows such an embarrassingly small amount of Polish, he feels the need to point out, the little things about the language, he DOES know. I am intending to improve, just like I intend to one day get my own Google account 😉,
This is something that I actually wanted to educate myself on, which is why I used the channel Occupied Krakow as a resource. In one of his videos, he tells us the reason that the camp is pronounced Plaszow, with the L is because that’s how the Germans pronounced it. The district with the same name is pronounced with the W as you said.
As he explained in the video, it’s ultimately up to the individual how they wish to pronounce it. But I found his reasonings to be sound and used the pronunciation for the camp he recommended. I encourage you to check that video out, and thank you for the comment!
What a comment!... Thanks for the info and laugh!
@TheVileEye Would you ever analyze "good" like Oskar Schindler? I think it'll be fascinating to learn how someone like him can navigate an "evil" world in Nazi-occupied Poland, still be high-status, and resist the overwhelming temptation to turn a blind eye. I think Oskar's humanitarian motivations are one of history's greatest mysteries.
Nice to be standing with the wife. A good man.
Well, Łódź you believe it.
Ralph Fiennes and Liam Neeson were both simply excellent in this movie.
True
That’s right
It was a brilliant movie.
Definitely great Acting and great Movie,
However for those curious about the Historical Aspects of this Movie: When the Movie came out lots of Holocaust Suvivors and Historians (I also now work in Historical Research here in Munich/Müncheen, Germany) criticized several Things about the Movie.
One of them being that Spielberg used to say it's "as authentic as possible" and "not much is fiction" while promoting the Movie, which to this Day makes most People think Schindler's List was some well-researched Historical Movie - Based on a True Story. Which it wasn't, the Movie is Spielberg's Movie-Version of the Historical Fiction Novel called "Schindler's Ark".
While the Characters we see existed, how they act in the Movie (both the good and the evil Characters) is completely Imagination.
On one Hand, Historically Amon Göth f.e. wasn't as cliché super-villainous as presented
While one the other Hand Oskar Schindler wasn't as "good" as presented in the Movie.
Those are just 2 Examples, so the Main Criticism besides Spielberg being misleading and presenting it as "Historical" and "well researched" were:
- Making Characters & their Actions in the Movie into stereotypical Good vs Evil & presenting History as Black/White & oversimplified which as some of the so called "Schindler Jews" as well as Historians said makes the Movie have certain Parts that are "Bad Kitsch" & "smell of an overly imaginative Mind"
- Spielberg by having been misleading causing most People who watched it believe it's very authentic & historical, which then supports the "Black/White" Thinking instead of the Realization that all of this could happen to anyone, including the Viewer because the Nazis were just human as well and ordinary People until their Surroundings & "Normal" changed.
So Fictional Cliché Presentations of these Characters fuels the "Oh those people are just evil naturally. And we're good naturally." which for Historians is especially an important Topic.
Showing Comic-Book like cliché good and cliché evil fictional Characters as historical helps the Viewer stay in a comfortable Bubble regarding History and Historical Events. Which then makes People be less vigilant and aware of the Fact that anyone could have ended up like Amon Göth or like Oskar Schindler a la "Oh this could never happen here."
Ralph should have won an oscar. Brilliant film
Amon is a good example on how sometimes someone being well educated, well travelled, cultured and with ample opportunities... has no effect on morality.
morality requires no education.
that is because they think they r Gods n can do what they want when they want without re precautions
This is true of many Nazi's, and in other totalitarian countries as well... Some of history's most brutal mass murderers were well educated, "cultured" people. Well educated does not mean one is automatically "enlightened" and cannot be a sadistic killer!
I literally know people like that. A truly ‘educated’ person would not be like that. Many people think a degree after their name, or their position of authority makes them more important than the masses of pawns in the games these MF’s play.
@Darth Mizinth no it isn't. Morality that is not absolute isn't morality, it's the lack of morality, or amorality.
If Amon were made up for the movie, people would be complaining that his evilness is unrealistic.
Actually, there were evil acts that Göth committed that Spielberg didn’t include in the film, because he felt that audiences wouldn’t believe that they actually happened.
@@speedracer2008 there’s still thousands of people in the comments claiming that it’s fiction because their precious nazi Germany would never do such a thing. Monsters like Amon still exist
@@fort809 People often just say “It’s fiction, it’s not meant to be taken seriously.”, guess they don’t know “based on a real event” exists.
Hello simp son
@@fort809 “did you know that this movie is fiction!!! Based on a fictional novel! Nazis are a far left party and wanted equality!” There are… too many of those in these comments
Every time I see Ralph Fiennes in this part I am convinced that it was the dramatic performance of the year and that he was robbed of his deserved Oscar.
Always agreed it is a strong shame he didn’t get an Oscar. He showed Goeth with his sadism and complexity not just in overt manners, but the slightest facial and posture shifts… subtle and intensely impactful.
Yes, although probably less talked about now, I too think this was a huge Oscar oversight. Christophe Waltz would win a Supporting Actor Oscar 17 years later, for a similar, but a less dramatic role in Inglourious Basterds in 2010. The award in 1993 went to Tommy Lee Jones, which as an American, clearly seemed more like a career award, I thought.
I think most people would agree he was completely robbed….but the Oscars mean nothing. This is still regarded as one of the best performances, whether he received an award or not.
@@AWolfMan75Yeah, that’s exactly what I think happened. Kinda like how Jamie Lee Curtis won Best Supporting Actress for her turn in Everything, Everywhere, All At Once. That was a career recognition award for sure - Angela Bassett should have gotten the award, though her performance wasn’t (IMO) as brilliant as everyone makes it out to be. She was very good in handling Queen Ramonda taking on a bigger role in Chadwick’s absence, but she has had many fine performances over the years that haven’t been recognized.
There really ought to be more Lifetime Achievement Awards given ought for career character actors, or talented actors who just never won the Oscar because they always ran up against Daniel-Day Lewis or something. It’s all such an arbitrary thing anyway.
Ralph Fiennes' performance has to mentioned, too, I think. He's a brilliant actor. Disturbingly so.
Yes, also in "Red Dragon" as the "Tooth Fairy."
@@KutWrite Harry in In Bruges.
@@KutWrite such a great performance. Also He who must not be named....
Definitely one of the best villains ever.
Discover behind the scenes.
Goeth was so monstrous that Spielberg had to water him down in the film because people would be shocked that someone like that actually existed.
I recall a story that he forced a young boy with diarrhea to eat his own shit, then shot him. A real sadistic piece of garbage
@@henryviii2091 all propaganda amoen goeth at his trial even said himself that he had the authority to put these people to death that was his words exactly
@@jerkoftheyear4565 I was just sarcastic, it's what some people would say.
I've read before that one of the Schindler Jews visited the set and temporarily flashed back to her time in camp when she saw him shooting a scene. The crew had to calm her before they continued.
@@ShaDHP23 yea we have all heard that. A million times ...nothing new
In the 2011 documentary "Hitler's Children", a woman named Monika Hertwig recalled a time while at a pub in Munich that she frequented and talked to a man named Manfred that she also happened to like and had noticed numbers on his arms. Realizing that he has been at a concentration camp, she asked him what concentration camp he was in and he said Płaszów. She said that her father was in Płaszów as Commandant and when Manfred came to the realization that he was talking to Amon Göths daughter, he became white as a wall.
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@@catrinholmes7026 are ok you are yes?
Yes I'm fine, must have been predictive text that went badly wrong lol
@@catrinholmes7026 lmao
The scene were Goeth's pistol jams, is in fact a sign of laziness. It is said that Amon Goeth never cleaned his guns.
Actually I think it is when they poured alcohol on him it wet his guns and he didnt know cause he was drunk.
@@insidemiladsmind5792 that would not make his gun malfunction. You could clean a gun w alcohol.
I think it was Hollywood. No way would two guns misfire. Besides no round ejects when he works the Slide Over and over. It’s really not a great scene.
@@MrSmokincodz It's an incredibly tense and emotional scene as far as acting an filming goes. I wouldn't discredit the whole scene based on an assumption that it's too unlikely
@MrSmokincodz Andrew Jackson's would be assassin had two guns that jammed. While it's extremely unlikely two guns would jam, it is possible.
...when you play Lord Voldemort and that’s still only the second most evil character on your resume.
good one
@@danielallan8061 Voldemort could not take a highschool and the other character he played was one of the worst people who succeded on their field
Are we not gonna talk about his role as Francis Dolarhyde from Red Dragon?
He played the evil Hades in clash of the Titans, Hades was still a choirboy compared to Goeth.
@@nunyabiznes33 You didn't know Ralph Fiennes played Francis Dolarhyde in Red Dragon?
Ralph did such a good job that when survivors visited the set and saw him walking around they all basically melted down in fear, because the thought Amon had returned. Ralph being a prince of a man, broke character immediately and comforted them. So yeah, he did an amazing job at the role.
As the one who casted Rachel McAdams (an apparently very nice person in real life) to play Regina George in Mean Girls said, "it takes a good girl to play a mean girl". Well, in this case, that phrase would be on steroids, Ralph Fiennes is a fine, fine man, and he has proven that over the years.
Cause they did lol.
They don't look alike so I don't believe that.
@@damienholland8103 looks don’t matter as much as conduct does . So no matter how you look if you have the same conduct as the person who used to put fear in you , you wil cower in fear . For the survivors of the camps even a small thing like a smell , sound or taste could take them back to WWII and the camps and be paralysed with fear . So you can believe it’s true .
@@ann1111000 No, usually if someone is tormented by someone violent they clearly remember how they look. It's more imprinted into the brain.
I watched one of the first showings of this film in my hometown in Germany. You cannot believe how solum the atmosphere was , many older people were in the audience. I heard crying and whimpering,some could not take it and had to walk out,I heard many then saying we have to stay and watch.
Sounds about on par with what some of my German friends tell me. A lot of emphasis is put on confronting what was done, no matter how horrible it is. Lots of em got sent to camps on school trips when they were pretty young.
Did you have to do that as well? How was that experience compared to watching the film?
I'm not trying to be rude or anything, just genuinely curious how it feels for a somewhat older German to go through that ringer. From what I can tell the younger generation seems to resent it somewhat since this isn't something they _nor their parents_ took part in. Hell, their grandparents might've even been just kids at the time so I've heard some express their distain for having this thrown at them a lot.
@@droganovic6879 My son was 16 in 2006 and his summer school trip was to Dachau Camp in Bavaria. It was part of the school curriculum after having done the WW2 in History lessons. They are prepared for this. I have dual nationality, I am German and British making my son also German and British. All he said about his trip to me was " I guess we were the good guys then" Meaning we the British side of us.I did actually correct him and say that the British also caused atrocities all over the world during the Empire. Actually, I think young Germans see this part of national history as a reminder to them that blind obedience to a political leader ( Dictator) can happen very easily if the economic circumstances in a country are bad enough and unleash demons in Humans.
@@kallivino8346 blind obedience to a dictator, still happening in germany over covid....
@@droganovic6879 it is true that many german people, especially younger people, are disconnected from the third reich, because most if their grandparents were little kids at most, some rare cases still have grandparents that served towards the end of the war in the draft, but really, there is almost no person under the age of 25 that has a grandparent that was an actual nazi. Its weird seeing how we as germans are still often percieved that way, even tho our politics is almost the exact opposite now since many many years. We show Schindlers List on private TV without ads every year, we have these programms where many schools go to concentration camps and we dedicate more than an entire year to studying the 3rd reich and how it could happen the way it did. Just having a small hint of being a bit more right leaning, and you are deemed a nazi that no one should interact with. (Which is a bit ironic, since one of the most leftist people in our government rn has almost the exact ideas as the far right)
So yea, its very irritating to us young germans to see us portrayed like that, but one thing most of us agree on, is thst the history is important and needs to be taught. If you forget it, you are doomed to repeat it.
But what i personally feel is that its not the task of us germans to not forget and teach others, like it is sometimes said. Its not our task because we are german, i think its our task because we are humans. It doesnt matter that it happened in our country, what matters is that we understand and learn how and why, and thst is something the whole world must take part in. Its an obligation we all have as humans, not as germans.
Idk, i think i kinda missed the point, sirry for that, but my device i'm writing this on isnt the best anymore and i cant properly write comments line these without it lagging *hard*
>many of them saying we had to stay and watch
Come and see.
A villain is only more terrifying when you now they're about as real as you or me.
And is human
You find it scary?
@@papaxook1249 apparently
The monsters of today are actually worse...
@@jasonzacharias2150 Yep, and they're disguised as the humans who are all around us!
The moments where Amon spares someone out of pure capriciousness and because they amused him reminds me a lot of a story my grandfather told me about one of his experiences in the camps (he was an Auschwitz survivor and was transferred to several different camps over the course of the war). There was a time he was assigned shoeshining duty. Since he was somewhat of a trickster, he used this opportunity to pickpocket the Nazis for any valuables in their coat pockets, then trade those items back to different Nazis in exchange for a little food to split amongst his bunkmates. Grandpa typically stole cigarettes and cigars and traded them, since those were pretty valuable.
One day, an officer caught him in the act, and told him to put the items down and come over to him. The officer said "you know, I could shoot you for that?" and paused for a moment. Then the officer tousled his hair and sent him on his way. I suppose that officer was motivated in a similar way, amused at the audacity of his shoeshiner trying to rob him. I wouldn't have even been born if that officer had decided differently. Those scenes with Amon toying with prisoners really hit deep and personal for me.
Wow, that’s a story! 😳
@@griffinkennedy1131 Figures this video would bring the deniers out of their holes. It's a shame the remaining Holocaust survivors are becoming rarer and deniers like you are still around.
@UCfDjkaZpjY-pl0v74oT6DmQ It actually has everything to do with denial.
Damn, and I thought I pushed my luck. Whatever you do, don't lose that seven leaf clover
@@cheguevararevolutionair852 yeah it says you are a sorry excuse for a human being and an anti semite
Ralph Fiennes' performance was one of the scariest that I've ever seen in a movie. He had an eerie sort of "dangerous charisma" and unpredictability, reminding me of a panther or tiger waiting to pounce on its helpless prey.
When charisma and psychopathy mix in one personality, you get characters like this one.
Kinda like in red dragon?
Read the book 'My Grandfather would have shot me' by Jennifer Teege [Goeth's half African Granddaughter] if you want an experience you will never forget.
Thank you what an interesting pointer. What did you think of the book?
@@zulubeatz1 A tough read but very powerful.
This monster got some sort of payback on the Gallows ...the executioner miscalculated [perhaps deliberately?] his height and subsequently the length of rope needed to hang him 'humanely'....it is reported that this wasn't the only time this happened.
It took another attempt to finally carry out the sentence...hopefully time for him to reflect a little on what he had done.
I don't condone this if it was a deliberate action but then again I don't have much sympathy for him.
The father of an acquaintance of mine was a prisoner in Plaszow and she has been affected by what he endured under Goeth.
So the guy killed people his whole life in a weird attempt to preserve the white race only to have his granddaughter be half black.
wew lad
@@dannyhughes4889Psychopaths have no regret.
I love the way Fiennes plays villains. Just the way he uses his face and physicality.
The actor of Amon and the writers said they had to tone down Amon’s actions because of how it would look on screen! They had to tone down his character because he was “too evil”? That tells you all you need to know.
And it's almost grimly humerous that the actions of Nazis like Amon could practically be called tame when compared to the actions of the Imperial Japanese during the course of WW2.
We've had it good for so long that most people have forgotten what evil is.
kgpspyguy it makes no sense to condone one evil by comparing it to another
@@revanth3508 w
Where exactly did you get "condoning" from my comment? I don't think you know what that word means.
I recommend you look up the history of an incident known as "the rape of Nanjing" and what the Imperial Japanese Army did to Chinese civilians in that City. Learn about THAT and then tell me that it wasn't an evil that practically existed on a different planet compared to what the Nazis did.
I'm not saying that we are too hard on the Nazis, I'm saying that it sickens me that the actions of other military Powers at the time (the Soviets, the Imperial Japanese) are almost completely ignored even though their actions were objectively far more heinous.
The Nazis would torture you until you gave them the information they wanted. The Soviets would torture you until you admitted to committing a crime that you didn't commit, and then they would keep torturing you until you died as punishment for the crime that you admitted to.
kgpspyguy you still seem to be trying to minimise to crimes of the nazis by comparing it to other crimes . Every crime irrespective of who does it is wrong and needs to be condemned.
@@revanth3508
So why don't people EVER point out the crimes of the Imperial Japanese or the Soviets for that matter?
Why are you defending these two monstrous empires that achieved an almost cosmic standard of evil?
One almost gets the impression that you'd rather just ignore their crimes entirely. Tell me, do I have a communist sympathiser on my hands?
100 million deaths and counting. When will you have your fill?
Ralph is so good in this it's scary, I think he even scared himself. On another note, when you said he (Amon) was tall you weren't kidding, he was 6'4, unusual for those days.
Amon was even taller.
@@PauloPereira-jj4jv she was talking about Amon
@@chiarosuburekeni9325 ....Oh, I didn't notice. OK.
I'm pretty sure 6'4 is unusual anytime.
The Average height of German male at that time was 5'9
So it wasn't that rare
Fiennes is one of the best character actors ever. His performance as Amon Goeth is simply breathtaking, as is Liam Neesons performance as Schindler. The whole cast in this movie was magnificent.
This is why I watch Schindler's List and The Pianist regularly to remind me how evil humans can be. It adds to the totality of this life on earth. To quote a phrase: If we don't learn from history, we are doomed to repeat it.
I don't know how you do it, tbh. Confronting such darkness regularly feels like too much of a toll. How do you not lose hope in humanity?
@Markus Assaleh He brought it up in a video about nazis not marxists because what was done by both the nazis and the marxists in the XX century is beginning again in XXI century America. His example being one political party's street militia in seattle performing acts similar to the S.A. in Germany. Another example being similar to how the nazis would seek to destroy someone's life for disagreeing with the party, which you see today with cancel culture. Often you see it these days when anyone exhibiting hostility towards marxism is reflexively called, 'nazi' by vile, disgusting people.
@Markus Assaleh it didn't fit 100% into a discussion about amon gothe, no. Surely given the nazis relevance to the modern day, a slight diversion would be allowable?
@Markus Assaleh Hopefully he was not.
OR AS PLATO SAID:THE PRICE OF APATHY IS TO BE RULED BY EVIL MEN.
To think they actually had to tone down Amon Goeth's depravity and cruelty because people saw that as 'unrealistic.' One of the few realities is that we don't know what the bottom of human evil is, it just keeps going.
@British Patriot No, the Nazis already did that back in the WW2, many other evils committed even before they rose to power.
Jesus is the answer the our Sin
@@alexandercarder2281 where was Jesus when he was victimizing all these people
@@mariahyohannes our all seeing all knowing god was too busy collecting tithe and having his words misinterpreted by the church. Good times 🌈
@@Ash-dd3kx And looking the other way while the so-called preachers of His word were abusing little boys 👍
Amon Goeth : "Here's my resume."
Satan : "Let me see... Wow, I'm impressed ! But... what position are you applying for?"
Amon Goeth : "Yours."
Pulling out a pistol and pointing it Satan’s head
Hold up here while I dig a deeper pit.
Brilliance is spoken with one word...YOURS.
Satan only killed three people in the Bible. God killed the entire population of Earth...twice. Seems like Amon wanted to take God's place, not Satan's.
@V A Oskar Dirlewanger
The modern trend in writing villains is to make their motivations understandable. You'll hear lots of film enthusiasts preach that making a one-dimensional antagonist who's just evil for the sake of evil and only cares for money is the wrong way to go. It's almost as if the film is trying to give Amon a character arc regarding power & attraction, as well as attempting to provide answers on why he is the way he is. Only for him to reject that exploration and immediately go back to the pleasure of violence. A reminder that monsters do exist in real life no matter if they're human.
My grandfather Edmund was a Holocaust survivor. He and his family lived in Krakow before being confined in the ghetto there and then transferred to Plaszow, where the film is set. He even recalled hearing rumours that if you could find work at Oskar Schindler's factor then you'd be safe. But while he never met Schindler personally, he unfortunately had some close encounters with Amon Göth. My dad and grandpa Eddy went to see Schindler's List in theatres, and when Fiennes appeared on screen he started trembling, pointed at the screen and whispered "That's him! That's Göth!" -- according to my dad the poor man was so completely terrified, it was as if he was back there again. :(
Edit: Forgot to add that in '95 he was interviewed for the Shoah Foundation, which Spielberg founded after making Schindler's List. The footage is kept in the US Holocaust Memorial Museum's archives.
Wanted to share more about grandpa Eddy because it was important to him for younger generations to learn from survivors:
Eddy, his parents, and his 6 siblings were transferred to other concentration camps after Plaszow. His mother Chana and sisters Shoshana, Faye, and Sara were all murdered in the gas chambers -- Sara was only 3 years old when she died.
Eventually he was sent to Auschwitz-Birkenau along with his brother Zygmund. Towards the very end of the war when it was clear that Germany was losing, Eddy and Zygmund managed to escape and were placed in an infirmary by Allied soldiers to receive medical care. Sadly Zygmund died only a few days after finally reaching freedom (either from typhus, dysentery, or just severe malnutrition/starvation, not sure which).
Eddy was reunited with his father Fischel and brother Yakov, and eventually they found his sister Helen as well. Grandpa Eddy started fresh in Canada in the early '50s and made a long fulfilling life for himself (even though he was deeply scarred by his experiences during the Holocaust, obviously).
Grandpa Eddy passed away in 2016 at the age of 95, surrounded by loved ones. He was a really sweet, gentle dude and I miss him tons. His memory is a blessing. ❤
@@junotmintz7404 It makes me so disgustingly sick to my soul,that even now,U.C.Berkley set up a "Jewish- Free Zone" the Nazis are Still here!! Be Aware of them. The so-called Leftist are still what they were..Nazis. God bless the souls of those who suffered.
@@junotmintz7404 @Junot Mintz Thank you so much for sharing with us "youngsters" about your late-grandpa Eddy.
May the memory of him live on and may God be with you and keep you.
@@junotmintz7404sooo fake 😂 🤓
As an American, I hate how we as a nation have always defended the Synagogue of Satan! Ruhe in Fried AH!
Ralph Fiennes has always been criminally underrated and underappreciated
He's regarded as one of the greatest actors alive! I don't get these kind of comments and why they have often that many likes...
@@yannick245 I mean in the mainstream media and mass man they pander to. Most people don't have a clue who Fiennes or Daniel Day-Lewis is
@@21stCenturyDub That's BS. Everybody knows them. Especially Day-Lewis is scoring awards left and right. He won three Oscars and was knighted.
@@yannick245 doesn't mean the average person knows them. Film enthusiasts? Of course they will know them. The average consumer not so much.
I love him so much in The Prince of Egypt, especially since he sang all his parts too
Ralph Fiennes was the only one who could have played Amon. Staggering performance.
Above and beyond...........brilliant actor.
It was incredible. When he was looking in the mirror and saying, I forgive you. The way his eyes were moving in his head as he was thinking. It reminded me of Anthony Hopkin's Oscar winning performance in The Silence of the Lambs as Hannibal Lecter. That part when he was talking to Clarice from his cell.
He has said if he had to play this role or Lord V. He said Voldemort for the rest of his life. He had a very hard time while film this. And for about a year after.
Sgt Boz. Christoph Walz could have done a great job too,I think.
I try to come up with another actor to play this role... But I draw blanks... Yes he was a good choice.
Ralph Fiennes is one of the greatest actors alive today. His voice is mesmerizing. From his evil Amon Goth snarls to the love sick puppy sounds of Count Laszlo Almasy to interpreting Shakespeare for the 21st century, no one else has his versatility. But learning how to pronounce his name correctly has been a real challenge, especially for us Americans
I'd not be too harsh on yourselves, he's British and half of us call him RaLph too.
I agree. Daniel Day Lewis I consider is the greatest actor to have lived. Not even before him was there an actor like him. Now that he's retired I'd say the greatest working actor would go to Ralph. Since I consider his talent to come as close to Daniel's level.
Since Ralph derives from Old English Rædwulf and Old High German Radulf, it's not surprising that in English, both pronunciations exist. Same with, for example, the pow in Powell being either as in power or as poe.
Ralph Fiennes stays with you after this film, whether you want him to be or not. A chilling performance.
The flash of anger i feel when an ad hits mid-word is something scary
Specially an ad for a dumb Netflix show 😑
@@Ironman4321wow Thank you (^^,)
Or just pay for premium like us non poor people do
lemme guess,you immediatelly become Amon (as soon as the add starts)?
@@Ironman4321wow You are a hero to us all
Heath Ledger won an award for putting himself into fictional evil. Ralph Fiennes became this real evil and didn't get a thing.
Yea but this dude isn't a pretty boy little girls lusted over who eventually killed himself due to improper use of medication.
That matters.
No that's not sarcasm.
@@slyguythreeonetwonine3172 You’re over complicating things. The academy awards are just celebrity circle jerks. Not worth taking seriously anymore
@@slyguythreeonetwonine3172 yea fk that dude srsly, ik and i see a p.o.s easily.
@@Jason.cbr1000rr wow you guys are talking smack about a dead man. "Valiant keyboard warriors" as quoted from this very viddy..
Hey champ, that's really interesting! Next time keep it to yourself.
I only saw _Schindler's List_ once, but I've never forgotten the fear I felt seeing Ralph Fiennes as Goeth. I saw in his eyes the most cold, cruel, pitch-black evil I have ever seen. Every time I've seen him in a movie since, I feel that urge to flinch, even though I know it isn't the same person.
Just be glad you only saw a movie--ua-cam.com/video/SQrq4ljb48g/v-deo.html
Some actors have a repressed evil in them that they pull from in these roles. Daniel Day Lewis and Christian Bale are two other examples that come to mind.
That moment of his pushing the table back is one of the greatest in cinema. We know he’s a violent hateful irredeemable man. But to see him so casually and prettily inconvenience someone for no reason, brings home the smallness and meanness for the sheer enjoyment of it.
Fiennes was so good it deserved the Oscar but didn’t get it.He was disturbing but he took the part very well.
Ever see him in “Red Dragon”.
Fiennes said he was nervous about taking on the roll , Spielberg didn't take a salary for the film . I don't think anyone was robbed , in for a film like that to be associated with the red carpet circus of the oscars , doesn't seem right somehow.
Lost to tommy lee jones in the fugitive....jeez..
@@munsterbraum2792 Tommy was great in that role tho
I couldn't stand to look at this guy in anything after Schindler's list, I was a lot younger then realized if the actor strikes an emotional response in you that actor has done they're job. He did this well ,really well.
he played some extremely likable characters too, he's such a good actor to pull off both spectrums so well.
What about his brother? I thought they were one person till I figured out that it wasn't.
I had a similar experience with the film "Downfall " and the actor Bruno Ganz.
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I saw Fiennes as nice goofball romantic Lenny in Strange Days after this, and yeah, the bad taste of his Amon Goethe still stuck in my mind.
The scriptwriter and the foundational novellist did theirs, very well apparently.
We're witnessing it again, yet many don't realize it's happening right under their nose.
Yes we are seeing it Happen again. Wake up people
Hehe nose hehehe
Thank god
@@Nothing-ch3dw hohoho klet
in China.
Ralph Fiennes was brilliant playing Amon Goeth! His ability to recreate the evil persona of one of the worst men in history, was both awe inspiring and terrifying.
What a monster. I can't believe that Fiennes didn't win an award for this role. He nailed it.
I agree.
Agreed
He got an Oscar nomination for it but didn’t win.
Crazy that Tommy lee Jones beat him out
I see this kind of comment so many times. Yes, I see your Red Baron portrait but don't worry about me calling you a Wehraboo or some such because ordinary people does this also. Too much, in fact. Look at all the likes. Why, let's celebrate an actor for portraying one of the worst criminals in history(in a movie that is originally meant for telling people how much of a bastard he was and what monstrosity of a system Nazi Germany created) instead of talking more about the victims who died or lived through it. Are we supposed to admire this behavior, or condemn it?
It's one thing to have an evil character with a great on screen presence. But to have an evil character that's based on an even more evil human being.... It's honestly disturbing
omg yes so true this is so real
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This is so real but unironically
@@T2G-DJT OMG I agree so true, everything on this video actually happened.
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TRUEEEE
@@T2G-DJT SO TRUEEEEEEE
Schindler's List was the first film that really moved me. It changed how I saw the Nazis from the "Bad Guys" in the Second World War to truly monstrous people. I was never again afraid of monsters in fiction. They cannot compare to the monsters in men.
And that's not the right attitude, calling them "monster" downplays the fact that everyone under the right context and in the right situation can become evil. Many people who commited such horrible crimes were fathers, brothers, neighbours, police officers etc. at home. Look at the Standford Prison experiment, Milgram experiment etc.
@@ravanpee1325 I think that is splitting hairs unnecessarily. The point I was making is that the film portrayed them in such a way that it humanized the "bad guys" from WW2 as you state into brothers, fathers, etc. So no longer were they just "generic villains"; they were people who did monstrous things.
It’s a mistake to think we all are incapable of evil like that. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn said the dividing line of good and even runs through the heart of every human being.
Watch “come and see” istg its 10x more terrifying
@@fasia7927 whats it about?
I remember watching this movie in HS. Omg i cried.. especially when they showed the little girl with the red dress alive, then dead on a wooden wheelbarrow. This movie is amazing, beautiful and absolutely terrible all at once. Liam and Ralph played their roles beautifully
Something that always stuck with me was something his estranged daughter said in an interview.
Her whole life she lived in the shadow of a man she didn’t know. When Schindler’s list came out she decided to see it , not knowing which character her father was.
She said as soon as he appeared and delivered that first line “Yeah I’m fucking freezing” She immediately knew that was her father.
The miserable man Ralph Finnes portrayed was that good.
Amon Goeth wished he was at hot as Ralph Fiennes. The real AG looked like the evil beast he was.
@Hernán Cortés yeah I know that. Just commentary.
@Enrique Olague Not when he died. Over the course of being Commander of the camp he became fat, poxy and unhealthy
@Enrique Olague Because of his drinking...he was ugly as hell. Tall monster with huge belly, who is attracted to that?
Nah he wasn't that ugly. Just big ears.
His granddaughter who is of mixed race has a few interviews on UA-cam. She has a lot of his features, poor lady but still beautiful…Jennifer Teege. She didn’t learn about her grandfather till later in life.
Something that is so horrifying about this is that this man was not some fictional movie villain like most of other villains on this show. This man was not only an actual person who really existed but he committed even more horrific atrocities than fictional villains
Amon Goth wasn't hanged three Times. Three Times was hanged a Ludwig Fischer- a governor of Warsaw District. I saw a movie from his execution and analised with Plaszow beast's photo. These men were different.
Imagine being so cruel and sick, that the very same SS sends you to the psychiatric.
They didn’t send him to the psyche ward because he was cruel, they did it because he was pocketing stolen Jewish money, as opposed to giving it the German war machine. Plus he was a major alcoholic and became unreliable to the war effort.
He was also facing the death penalty for embezzling from Auschwitz
The war ending when it did extended his life by about a year and a half
Wait until you learn about Croatia during ww2, and ustaše, nazis were Samaritans compared to them.
@@user-ik3xt1bx2n dont forget about četnici.
@@aro4995 I'm not, they are the only ones who fought against ustaše, and stopped them from massacring even more civilians
I've always thought of how ironic Ralph Fiennes ' casting was, playing one of the most inhuman nazi officers, Lord Voldemort and Ramses II
It would be irony if he played Mister Rogers.
Red Dragon and even In Bruges. Plays a fantastic bad guy
And the he goes on to voice Jesus.
@@CodytheHun123 Now that is irony.
Just like when Sean Bean lives in a movie.
And Francis in Red Dragon
This movie is still spellbinding after all these years. Doesn't even feel like a film, but living history. Fiennes is the embodiment of evil. A monumental performance.
Did a much better job than a typical documentary from mainstream cable channels. You got me interested early on and kept me interested, very nice narration.
Ralph Feines did an incredible job in this role.
Imagine being so twisted and evil that the freaking SS considers you to be too cruel
Oskar Dirlewanger
@@ramO-jp8tp ahhh the psychopath who enlisted a bunch of rapist murders and thieves right out of prison and called them a brigade lol
WW2 Japan in a nutshell
Twisted is an understatement.
the Ustaše and unit 731 : let us introduce our selfs
''At one morning parade, in the presence of all the prisoners he shot a Jew, because, as he complained, the man was too tall.''
Insecurity manifested.
Amon, was also 6'4.
@@RocketRoketto exactly. Maybe he felt that a Jewish man shouldn’t be allowed to have the same height as him. He felt threatened. Disgusting man
@@Yikkoofficialso anyway he started blasting.
Me who's 6ft 4: starts sweating.
Goeth was also an extremely tall man - he likely shot the prisoner for no other reason than his head noticeably stuck up above the crowd making the parade appear ununiform, which would have annoyed him considering his SS background.
Goeth did not view his victims as human in any way, which is why and how he was so abjectly evil, so it's unlikely he would have felt any complex emotion towards them. In the same way you don't feel empathy for meat you pick up at the slaughter - you just ate it because it was tasty and you were hungry.
Little-known fact: Claude Frollo, the well known villain from Disney's Hunchback of Notre Dame, was actually inspired by Amon Goth. That is why Frollo is seen as Disney's greatest villain.
Claude Frollo was created by Victor Hugo, back in the 19th.
@@narniadici1976 I was reffering to the villain made by Disney, not the original villain.
Ooh that's makes sense because disney frollo is very different from Victor Hugo novel frollo I personally prefer disney version because it's very few times when disney actually made villain way more evil than its source material.
Frollo in the film shares many similarities with Göth. Both lust after women of an ethnic group that they hate and face internal conflict over this. They lash out at the world in response to this conflict. They also have a strict view of the world, deciding who does and doesn’t belong in it. Finally, they harm anybody who doesn’t conform to their views of what the world should be.
Making the prisoners walk on the graves of their fathers is such an evil detail of Schindlers List that I never really fully realized.
@@khirondb shut ur mouth
The ultimate sign of hate and utter disrespect.
@@khirondb You'd think it'd be contested by more people than randoms on the internet. Dont get me wrong, it strikes me as hard to believe and a bit cartoonish in its evil, but you'd think some of the people around or involved would speak out if it was false.
@@dracnabid4442 truth hurts boi?
@@khirondb Most people have Saint Anne Frank of Bic pen mentality.
The duality of man is prevalent in everyone, someone could genuinely smile at you, while also wanting your own very demise
The heart on man is desperately wicked, and who can know it?
At 20:29 when Amon talks to the man who was going through suitcases, you'll notice that when he smiles the dogs growl, and when he laughs they bark...
AMAZING content! Thank you so much for the hours and hours of wonderful analysis!
I feel so bad for the camp survivor who basically thought she saw her terrorizor live again. I wonder what Fiennes thought. Was he proud that he was bringing truth to the role was he upset that he could embody such a person. What a strange situation it must have been.
Imagine how terrifying it would be to look to embody such a person. i doubt any sense other then horror could've been felt
An actual quote from him about being Voldemort: “I once went past the young child of a script supervisor and he burst into tears. I felt very proud of myself.”
@@dkupke Haha! XD
@@colethepole728 ...or maybe try to kill him with your bare hands on the spot. I imagine the anger you would feel is like the scene in the movie Marathon Man'
@@SebsterMS99 from the same article: to keep his cloak from falling under his feet and tripping him the wardrobe department wrapped strips of cloth around his thighs and pinned the cloak to them. The Dark Lord was wearing garters the whole time.
Congrats on 100K! I'm a huge fan of There Will Be Blood. Would you consider Daniel Plainview evil enough to do a video on?
Who is Andrew plain view?
Yeah, good call. I'd say he's as troubled as he is evil, but he's definitely a prick- "You're a bastard from a basket."
I actually just recently watched "There Will Be Blood" so I'd be totally on board for that. I consider him a monster by all accounts.
I need to watch that. I've tried twice and fell asleep
@@Andre-uu5xv I’d actually consider the idea of capitalism as the greater evil in „there will be blood“
Spielberg had to play down some of the more monstrous things Goeth did for the sake of the movie, because I’m sure he didn’t want people puking in the theater.
Interesting fact: even though Goeth was extremely evil in this movie, he was actually even worse in the real life. Hard to believe but it is true.
Ralph Fiennes is just so good at playing evil men. And apparently he's a nice person out of character.
It'd be great to get a book on how to get into those characters for actors and film analysis.
Jordan B Peterson talks about the benefits with getting in contact with that person within you. There should be something written by him, if you want more than video talks. The discussions can be found here searching for JBP and evil, evil within us.
You don't need a book. It's easy, you just act.
There was an actor that said he often would begin wearing similar clothes and doing small habits to the culture of the person he was trying to become.
@@drewu213 Books can help you put it in a more tangible, easily comprehensible way
@@CJFCarlsson Jordan Peterson is a raging sociopath. What a surprise learning he'd argue for keeping your inner nazi alive and ready to go.
Would you consider Andrzej Seweryn’s depiction of Maximilien de Robespierre in the 1989 film about the French Revolution? Any kind of villain who so strongly believes they’re doing the right thing no matter how evil their actions are are uniquely interesting.
Oh yes, I love those types. Disney Claude Frollo is another one.
His First-Name was Maximilien, I did Not
know...
Thanks for that...
Andrzej Seweryn plays in list as well (ssman in glasses)
@@lothar3610 really?! I didn’t know that! He can see him pulling that off. I’ll have to watch that again and see, it’s been awhile.
Like the Operative from Serenity
Amon Göth
Amongoth
Amongus
Finnes going from Goth in Schindler’s to guy in “ Constant Gardner” was incredible and had to be a complete mindf**k.
Whereas I may have considered correcting your pronunciations, instead I will simply give gratitude that bothered to reach out to someone for guidance. So many channels just don't seem to care one way or another.
And in general, thanks for all your hard work!
not sure, but maybe because vile eye isn't american. most channels who don't bother with respecting others are usually ran by americans, or so it seems
@@512TheWolf512 Im not sure how you've decided that the narrator and his channel aren't American.
You are truly talented.
@Sandra Turajlich It matters a bit as it took me quite some time to realize he was talking about Göth and not some dude named Gert. I don't know where he got the r from.
Goeth and a lot of his Nazi friends are seriously more scary than most of the fictional villians ever created.
True!!! They are sitting at the devil's side!!!!! 🤗🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
@@mariaevans7811 youre flag to !
I think what makes them scarier is the disturbing reality behind people like Amon. They really did exist and really were that deprived. It's not some sort of "product" or "idea" of someone wanting to create a scary person, they simply were.
Agreed. Think the Spielberg portrayal was for all audiences.
Oskar Direrwanglar
You want to know the scariest thing I realized after watching this video? This man, as scary as he might sound, is most likely not an exception, and I bet that, as I write these lines, somewhere on this planet some other monster is doing infinitely worse. Scary thoughts...
You said in your video about Calvin Candie that QT said he was trying to let people think about how the reality of the depicted events was even more gruesome than in the movie. This video stands as a great illustration of it. Plus, great way to see what somehow 'mortal and ordinary' people can do when giving proper means and pretext. Great work and great lesson.
Ray Fiennes did a remarkable job playing a monster. We need to remember that Ray Fiennes is just the actor and he is not the monster in real life.
* Ralph
It’s ralph pronounced as Rafe
I've met him, really pleasant man. Huge fan of russian classics in literature.
In order to prepare for the role, ralph would stand outside his balcony daily and shoot people on the street. What a pro.
@@ChrisZukowski88
You're creepy wierd, not clever.
Fiennes should've won an Oscar.
Am I in minority who thinks not? It could smack of glorifying portrait of evil. Reminds me Bonnie and Clyde movie banned in some countries for the same reason.
@@vladoh2011 Not glorifying, but creating, via an acting portrayal OF evil. I don't think Stephen Spielberg would glorify Nazi evil perpetrated on his ancestors.
“Valiant Keyboard warriors” got me weak lmfao
Even the way Ralph stuck his gut out like Amon shows his full commitment to portraying this evil, evil man. He's such an amazing actor, we are lucky.
Ralph Feinnes embodied Amon Goethe in his performance so well, that he scared a Holocaust survivor into saluting in his presence while Ralph was in costume Going so far as the survivor to sweat before his presence.
Göth (Goeth), not Goethe.
I was confused why there was no sound so I turned it to max and then “HELLO THERE”
Scared the shit out of me
One of my top 10 movies ever, only the fact that it is in B/W is simply genius.
My sympathy goes out to those who would focus their attention to pronunciations and not the message being conveyed. It would be a valuable lesson unlearned.
I agree
I can't help wondering what Goert would have been like in a different setting? A serial killer? A boring civil servant? Might he have found an outlet for his dark side that didn't involve violence? I wonder if it was Goert's nature to be a psychopath and killer or if it was the power given to a fairly ordinary man, the power of life and death, to act with absolute impunity that caused him to act in the manner he did? Could it be a combination of the two?
I recently watched a movie about the Stanford Prison Experiment in which a group of students were assigned roles as guards and another group, as prisoners. Within hours, the nasty, sadistic side of some of the young men materialised, once given power over their own classmates. Is this inherent in all of us? Some of us? Was it just some fluke that the guys playing guards happened to be sadists?
Kudos to Spielberg for a) hiring Ralph Fiennes and b) exploring Goert's character when it would have been both tempting and entirely forgivable to simply provide the story line with a stereotypical bad guy, thug.
Thanks for this video.
"One man may be so placed that his anger sheds the blood of thousands, another so placed that however angry he gets he only makes people laugh. But the mark made on the soul may be much the same."
-----C.S. Lewis
It has been reported that the "guards" we're encouraged to act as creative and vicious as possible, so I'm not sure if it really proves that we all fall into line, but once given a little push .. bam. Gravity.
@@Tziguene Yes. The Standford Experiment would have been different, tamer, if given proper scientific method controls.
an orange skinned president? The problem with overdemonising any particular person is that it underplays the most basic fact. He was just a man. All it takes to make a normal person into a monster is a figure of authority. Thats it. Humans in general are weak and dispicable creatures. fortunately we are well on our way to extinction, so our stain on the planet will be gone relatively soon.
Evil resides in all of us. That’s what’s so significant about the perpetrators of the Holocaust. Except for a few exceptions, they were all ordinary people. Not sadists or psychopaths. All put in an environment no longer constrained by societal norms. Obligated to fulfill their duty to the state. These same people were funneled into a situation of chaos incomprehensible to the human psych. A system quickly spiraling out of control and beyond the control of any one man.
I’m sure Goeth would have held a successful career and lead an ordinary life if events had taken a different course.
If Amon Goeth was alive today, he would have a youtube account with a anime avatar and write edgy nationalistic comments online.
Now your comment is edgy
soon as you finished the intro & began the documentary i got chills, i was also born December 11th & am of danish decent tho i have yet to see schindler’s list. As always, i’m already intrigued to see this one play out
Ralph Fiennes did an EXCELLENT job portraying Amon Goeth.
There is nothing unusual about seemingly normal people getting all violent and sadistic when there are no rules and morals to restrain them, as in Amon's case.
Oh, no. You need to be a psychopath to exhibit absence of conscience when circumstances allow it. "Normal" people have conscience. They would not act that way regardless of circumstance.
Most psychopaths live their lives looking like "normal" people without anybody ever suspecting. They understand benefits of mimicking, pretending, blending in as necessary to function in society.
@@vladoh2011 "seemingly normal ", heck if there were no Nazis or WW 2, he would have most likely led an unremarkable life
@@partygrove5321 That is what I said. If not for circumstances allowing him to express his true personality, nobody would ever think of him as psychopath.
@@vladoh2011 "Normal" people are taught conscience. No one has conscience. You learn it, like everything else. When you are born you have some basic primitive instinct, you have no idea of the more complex social rules or emotional rules, like conscience.
@@narednikmajka2403 Well… what if conscience is a form of basic primitive instinct? Possible by brain wiring unique to humans? Although, some other species seem to show signs of the same.
You are talking political correctness here. Yes, that is learned behavior. Easily mistaken for inborn trait.
Conscience is not required for survival. Therefore, its circuitry is not universally hardwired in our brains. It is “optional.” For purpose of this exchange, it can be thought of as a talent. Some are born with it, some without it.
Talent is not the best example though. We can learn PC. Not the talent.
Perhaps better example here is empathy. That is easy to pretend PC style.
So, is it nature or nurture? We can tell difference in children. At certain stage some show it, some do not. Even before they are able to learn what behavior is expected of them by their culture.
Sure, it can be useful to label learned PC behavior as conscience. But not technically correct.
Ambitious individuals without conscience can easily outdo people who have it. They exploit the PC rules for personal benefit. It is easy to fall for their calculated displays of seemingly high morality. That is one of reasons why sociopaths and psychopaths are on average more successful in life than “normal” people. Individuals with added charisma and excess narcissism in the mix of their inborn personality traits are fully equipped to make it to the top.
I had no idea he had portrayed that monster so well its gives you chills to hear looking back on the movie....
It's amazing how people just go along with this madness and evil.
Peter Hughes if you lived in nazi Germany yoy yourself will most likely be a nazi they were brainwashed to hate jews since they were kids let's
Say you are born your parents tell you jews are bad you go to school
Teachers tell you jews are bad the media you watch on TV tells
You jews are bad since people in nazi Germany didn't have access to
Outside media only the elites did so what are the chances you peter Hughes would go against your parents schools peers
And basically society and probably get killed or deve prison time for it
What are the chances that you will be that individual if you ain't
That individual now you won't be that individual then
Given the right threat, or promise of gain, you'd do it too...
Ralph Fiennes is such a brilliant actor I love him so much
when one of the witnesses got scared at the RESEMBLANCE of the actor to the real one, that in itself is just terrifying
What a sick f*** with an accurate description fully enjoyed it keep it up brother
I don't know what the academy were thinking he should have won a oscar for this role
The “academy “does not “think”
They were thinking "It's time to give Tommy Lee Jones a career award." I suspect the same will happen with Fiennes.
Schindlers list was dedicated to the victims of the holocaust. No matter how good Ralph Fiennes as Amon Goeth was but giving the oscar to a role that is based on one of the cruelest people that ever lived would have left a bitter taste in many people's mouth. Amon Goeth wasn't a fictional character and many of his victims who participated in the movie were still alive in 1993.
Goeth wasn't the only time Ralph Fiennes would play a character obsessed with race or blood purity the other being Voldemort.
He was the only choice for Voldemort
He also played Rameses II in Prince of Egypt.
For real. His voice was ON POINT
He was the Red Dragon too, another Part
of Schweigen der Lämmer...
Voldemort is a cartoon character by comparison. Goeth is terrifying because he was real.
Well done . Brilliant video 👍👍👍
Fiennes should have won an Oscar for his portrayal of Goeth.
Thank you I suggested this a while ago so I've been waiting for this one
So happy you did him. Ralph Fiennes was godly in this role. The Devil on Earth.
18:57 The rabbi actually explains it was because the machines had to be recalibrated, hence his slower pace. He does not mention this at first because he believes he will die either way, but when Amon's weapons misfire repeatedly he blurts it out in the hopes it will sway them.
He does not deserve to be forgotten but to be remembered as the monster he was, his name uttered with utter disdain and I applaud Fiennes for seeing the necessity of bringing this monster to the big screen so his evil would never be forgotten.
The scariest thing about this monster is that he’s a real person who once existed
I've met worse
...and the many more living today, waiting for the opportunity to exceed him.
A Demon with a attitude towards Evil incarnat.
Yet he has a lovely daughter who quite clearly bears no racial prejudices, against anyone.
The truly scary thing is that the real Amon Goth was actually worse than the movie portrayed him.
I saw a documentary a while ago, based on photo-albums, kept by guards of Auschwitz, that showed them in cheerful, mundane, well groomed group-poses, similar to those we often see, of a family-gathering at a picnic. If there be any ancillary documentation of their milieu or thought-processes, it should make for a fascinating episode on your blog.
Unimaginable cruelty - to see just one of this encounters would wound every normal human for life. Makes me really sad 😔
It's odd I watched this in middle school and only now finally appreciate it
I always think of Liam Neeson and Ralph Fiennes as Schindler and Goeth.