I saw on your building vid that you used a hammer to start the post. I recommend 6 foot posts so that you can drive them deeper in the ground. When starting them push them in and stand on the little "t's" to get them in enough to stand alone and the drive em home with the driver. On the door put a diagonal 2x4 to help strengthen the door. On the mud pit find some logs to put beside the fence so that they don't root under it and did a starter hole and put some water in it to let them know where it is supposed to be. Just some tips. Glad to see that it worked out ok.
Tomer, those are some great tips. We dug a starter hole for the pit, but just like you said they still seem to be heading towards the fence. I have some large logs that are going in the pen tonight. Thanks!
Another great suggestion. We're trying to figure out some temp fencing for our first round of pigs this fall and keeping out coyotes for the first month or two is leading us to consider barbed wire.
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm I am going to recycle the PVC pipe I used for old well pipe. I lowered rollers the dogs would bite pvc to get up and use armpits to hang on, so metal pipe they can't bite and also metal pipe in summer should burn pits. time will tell.
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm Coyotes are crafty. Taking pets and stuff. We shoot about 3-5 a week. Give them to guy that teaches taxidermy and we make dog food out of rest .
Right! This first one was good for up to 3 pigs as long as you're diligent with removing the manure each day. As our pork business started growing we needed more space, so it's a bit larger now and it moves!
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm I did not realize it was mobile!! Ill have to go back and look again! Thats cool!! What are your plans for cattle on the new property?
@@kylanve it's semi-permanent. We have a gas powered t-post driver that makes it pretty easy to remove and drive posts for rotations and still keep the solid fencing to keep in the pigs. We're not set on bringing cattle on quite yet. The cost to finish them on grass (alfalfa) on dry land like ours is astronomical. We may finish a couple head for the experience, but we have family (and a good friend) in the cattle business here in AZ that we can source finishing steers from, so we're likely to head down that route for our customers. We've actually been testing that this year and have moved 4 head that way via bulk purchasing with some of our top customers. We haven't announced that yet officially, but it will be our beef program for 2022.
Looks good, shade is really important for those squealers. What do you guys use for feed? Have you looked into prickly pear cactus or brewers spent grain to supplement?
Hey Homesated OC. We have a small shade structure we put in at the SW corner that they usually lounge under during the day. With our new property they'll have a full acre to range in and we're already working on getting it set up for them to have more shade available with trees, shrubs, etc. Good call on the prickly pear and the spent grain. One of our chicken customers raises cattle and finishes his beef on spent grain. Need to look into that. Thank you for the suggestion!!
Wondering how those Guineas would do in AZ. We were thinking of a smaller hog to keep and breed in addition to the standard breeds that we bring in as feeders for the farm business. Kune Kune comes to mind also.
Thanks for this video! I’m tryna save four little sweethearts from slaughter and Ik they would need a much bigger pen than they have now but I have no idea where to start lmao
The more space you can give them the better it will be for everyone. Especially for long term housing. They make a mess of things very quickly, so everyone will be happier with more space!!
Love all of your videos! I have a couple of questions since we are thinking of getting pigs: 1) Who is your mobile butcher and will they go all around the Phoenix metro? 2) where did you get your pigs and roughly what did they cost? Thank you so much!
We use Bob Thrush out of WIckenburg to process our animals. I know he travels to the West valley, but I'm not sure how much further. Key there is you need to go to him to pick up the processed meat. He's actually about 20 minutes West of Wickenburg, so quite a ways out there. We buy our pigs from PamLann Farms in Glendale. We haven't bought piglets in over a year, so I'm hoping they're still open for business!
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm Thank you so much! You are such a great resource and you really do communicate with all of us out here in UA-cam land! That is rare but wonderful.
Great Video! Do you guys offer them a place to mud in the summers as well as having the shade structures. This allows them to protect themselves from the sun. Just curious as we are not in a populated area of Wittmann and get no shade from neighboring houses or structures so we get all the animals kiddie pools to cool off in during the summer months.
Hey Daniela. Still trying to figure out how to create a good wallow for them in the summertime. We don't plan on keeping pigs in July and August, but we still need to get through June with these 2 new ones. I like the idea of a kiddie pool. How does it hold up to them? Our last 2 were beasts on anything that wasn't solid steel.
No, that's one of our neighbors. Actually, they purchased the land you see immediately adjacent to ours. It's in the background in the shots of the sunrise.
Hey Charles. We feed them a Non-GMO feed from BarAle and also table scraps (minus pork) including our pastured chicken from time to time. We also just finished 2 on mesquite bean pods which we have an abundance of here in AZ in June for some extra carbs before heading to the butcher.
Oh, we've discussed this many times. The current property is the only place we've lived where we didn't have barking dogs. Not so bad during the day, but never ending night barking is just horrible.
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm You mentioned how your hog reacted when cornered. Her designs avoid corners and instead use gradual curves. Obviously growing out 2-3 hogs at a time wouldn't warrant a major do over, but it may be something to consider in the future.
@@Lolo_Pas that's a great observation and we need to consider that. We're on a larger farm now and last year raised 13 hogs for folks. A larger area, but still with corners that would not be hard to round.
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm I'm amazed at the scale, planning, and investment you've put into your farm. How much time and effort did you put into planning? Did you have some professional help in the planning phase?
@@Lolo_Pas we planned the property ourselves after researching everything we could. From the day we purchased the property in 2018 until we started the first project (Early 2020) it was just under 2 years. It's a challenge finding relevant information for our growing area as it's quite unique, so we have had to tweak many things as we've gone along. We did have assistance with the irrigation design as we needed to ensure we had adequate water flow through the whole system.
Dude, hopefully you had some wheat straw for them to bed down in at night. In addition, over 200 pound pigs, two of them, in that small enclosure? Come on, man! I do like your fencing, but since they life up with their noses and are extremely powerful, if they can get their noses under the fence, it's a goner!
Hey Horseygurl (love your UA-cam "handle" by the way). We do add alfalfa hay for them to bed down in (they love to eat it too!) and yes we're working on more space for these guys. With this expansion they really love to run around and wallow in the mud pit we've created. As for the fencing, with our rock hard dirt here in AZ (we have dirt called caliche which is literally rock) they are only able to root where we have their mud pit, so I would imagine it would be a bigger problem in areas with softer ground. But yes, if they do work their way under that hog panel, they're going to have a blast running through the fruit trees!
Thanks, Edge of Nowhere Farm. Love your moniker, as well. And thanks for adding panels for your piggies. It's only fair to provide good space for them, especially if they are going to be the main attraction on your plate one day. Yeah, they will LOVE running through the fruit trees. Cool, dude!
Hey Kaylee. Yes, these are to feed our family and friends. We've kicked around the idea of raising some Kune Kune as pets, but our summers are difficult for pigs to handle. We may still give it a shot though, because they are a lot of fun to raise.
Edge of Nowhere Farm I have a potbelly pig and once I got her I stopped eating pork all together. Realized how amazing of pets they can be. They are among the top 4 smartest animals. Very sweet and loyal more so than a cat or dog and a lot cleaner of animals. She stays in my backyard all day from 7am-8pm then I bring her in and she sleeps in a designated place in our spare living room closes to the backyard door. Watching your videos have motivated me to get up and get in my backyard. Its quite large so I want to try and make an area for her to have a muddy watery area to roll around in when its hot. Make a pen . yours is very nice. And also make the feeder and water thing you have because the food just being out in a bowl attracts flies way too easily and she ends up tipping over the water bowls so I need tot think bigger and more efficiently like you have. We also have 4 fruit trees and thanks to you I want to use the pig's manure with the woodchips to help the trees. Thank you
You will LOVE watching your piggie in the mud! Oh and the manure mixed in woodchips is doing great for us so far. Highly recommend it if you're using heavy woodchip mulch around your trees.
That drinker is not BP Free ! When the sun heat's up that plastic or rubber it leeches out chemical " I hope your feeding non GMO ? And as your fencing go's premiere fencing electrical is amazing & they have solar to " we love the company " I guess we're you live you can't put them on grass " I've been told you want your hog to be around 240 lbs over that it's to much fat !
Hey Michelle! Yeah, we're trying to figure out a BPA free option that isn't outrageous in price. Oh and yes, we feed GMO free with a feed we get from CA. Testing out the theory on a slightly smaller pig with the last 2 we're waiting to get back from the butcher. Our first 2 were right at 300 lbs and these last 2 were closer to 250, so we'll see. Working on moving pigs onto about an acre of land, won't be much for grass, but shrubs, trees and plenty of space to root around. Have seen the premier fencing before and glad to hear it works well. Will have to see if that will work for us here in the dry desert. Thanks for the comment!
I'm still soaking in all your information! Thank you
Glad to hear it Kathleen, any questions just shoot them over!
I saw on your building vid that you used a hammer to start the post. I recommend 6 foot posts so that you can drive them deeper in the ground. When starting them push them in and stand on the little "t's" to get them in enough to stand alone and the drive em home with the driver. On the door put a diagonal 2x4 to help strengthen the door. On the mud pit find some logs to put beside the fence so that they don't root under it and did a starter hole and put some water in it to let them know where it is supposed to be. Just some tips. Glad to see that it worked out ok.
Tomer, those are some great tips. We dug a starter hole for the pit, but just like you said they still seem to be heading towards the fence. I have some large logs that are going in the pen tonight. Thanks!
One cable tie and a section of fun noodle will cure those T-post rashes.
Another great suggestion. We're trying to figure out some temp fencing for our first round of pigs this fall and keeping out coyotes for the first month or two is leading us to consider barbed wire.
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm I want to redo mine, I have a 6' DIY coyote roller fence.
@@slamboy66 had to look up what that was. Pretty cool way of keeping dogs out. Does it work?
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm I am going to recycle the PVC pipe I used for old well pipe. I lowered rollers the dogs would bite pvc to get up and use armpits to hang on, so metal pipe they can't bite and also metal pipe in summer should burn pits. time will tell.
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm Coyotes are crafty. Taking pets and stuff. We shoot about 3-5 a week. Give them to guy that teaches taxidermy and we make dog food out of rest .
Man, the pig pen has grown through the years!! 😁
Right! This first one was good for up to 3 pigs as long as you're diligent with removing the manure each day. As our pork business started growing we needed more space, so it's a bit larger now and it moves!
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm I did not realize it was mobile!! Ill have to go back and look again! Thats cool!! What are your plans for cattle on the new property?
@@kylanve it's semi-permanent. We have a gas powered t-post driver that makes it pretty easy to remove and drive posts for rotations and still keep the solid fencing to keep in the pigs. We're not set on bringing cattle on quite yet. The cost to finish them on grass (alfalfa) on dry land like ours is astronomical. We may finish a couple head for the experience, but we have family (and a good friend) in the cattle business here in AZ that we can source finishing steers from, so we're likely to head down that route for our customers. We've actually been testing that this year and have moved 4 head that way via bulk purchasing with some of our top customers. We haven't announced that yet officially, but it will be our beef program for 2022.
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm oh nice! I didnt think about that with cattle! I should look into that!
Looks good, shade is really important for those squealers. What do you guys use for feed? Have you looked into prickly pear cactus or brewers spent grain to supplement?
Hey Homesated OC. We have a small shade structure we put in at the SW corner that they usually lounge under during the day. With our new property they'll have a full acre to range in and we're already working on getting it set up for them to have more shade available with trees, shrubs, etc. Good call on the prickly pear and the spent grain. One of our chicken customers raises cattle and finishes his beef on spent grain. Need to look into that. Thank you for the suggestion!!
I have American Guinea Hog. I use 100% silicone to seal my waterers , it is what I use for my homemade tilapia tanks.
Wondering how those Guineas would do in AZ. We were thinking of a smaller hog to keep and breed in addition to the standard breeds that we bring in as feeders for the farm business. Kune Kune comes to mind also.
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm Mine don't root , but do like a muddy spot and shade.
@@slamboy66 may have to consider them if we go that route.
I love pigs, they are funny and delicious .
Emphasis on the delicious.
Thanks for this video! I’m tryna save four little sweethearts from slaughter and Ik they would need a much bigger pen than they have now but I have no idea where to start lmao
The more space you can give them the better it will be for everyone. Especially for long term housing. They make a mess of things very quickly, so everyone will be happier with more space!!
Love all of your videos! I have a couple of questions since we are thinking of getting pigs: 1) Who is your mobile butcher and will they go all around the Phoenix metro? 2) where did you get your pigs and roughly what did they cost? Thank you so much!
We use Bob Thrush out of WIckenburg to process our animals. I know he travels to the West valley, but I'm not sure how much further. Key there is you need to go to him to pick up the processed meat. He's actually about 20 minutes West of Wickenburg, so quite a ways out there. We buy our pigs from PamLann Farms in Glendale. We haven't bought piglets in over a year, so I'm hoping they're still open for business!
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm Thank you so much! You are such a great resource and you really do communicate with all of us out here in UA-cam land! That is rare but wonderful.
@@TheFatTheist thanks for the encouragement. We enjoy being a small part of everyone's lives. For the better hopefully...
My pigs play with kids bowling balls . The colored ones we all used . I cheat by packing the holes with food scraps.
They love MAC and cheese. I lie they love it all.
We've had some folks comment and suggest the same. Minus the food scraps in the holes!
Ha! Yes they do.
Great Video! Do you guys offer them a place to mud in the summers as well as having the shade structures. This allows them to protect themselves from the sun. Just curious as we are not in a populated area of Wittmann and get no shade from neighboring houses or structures so we get all the animals kiddie pools to cool off in during the summer months.
Hey Daniela. Still trying to figure out how to create a good wallow for them in the summertime. We don't plan on keeping pigs in July and August, but we still need to get through June with these 2 new ones. I like the idea of a kiddie pool. How does it hold up to them? Our last 2 were beasts on anything that wasn't solid steel.
Hi there one thing that might help is to put your post on the outside my pen is like yours great pen though keep up the good work!!!
Hey Wesley, that's a great tip. We just wrapped up installing a very similar pen to this on our new property and that's exactly what we did!
Cool glad I could help i’m going to do a short video of my pen in a couple of days check it out sometime you can subscribe if you like
@@Wes1988 let us know when you do and we'll check it out!
Is the rooster I hear yours ?
No, that's one of our neighbors. Actually, they purchased the land you see immediately adjacent to ours. It's in the background in the shots of the sunrise.
What is your piggies diet
Hey Charles. We feed them a Non-GMO feed from BarAle and also table scraps (minus pork) including our pastured chicken from time to time. We also just finished 2 on mesquite bean pods which we have an abundance of here in AZ in June for some extra carbs before heading to the butcher.
Put them in a shower head on a timer. I bet that would be a hoot.
Now that would be fun to watch!
Sorry for the flood of comments, but do you miss the barking dog ?
Oh, we've discussed this many times. The current property is the only place we've lived where we didn't have barking dogs. Not so bad during the day, but never ending night barking is just horrible.
Are you aware of Temple Grandin' s work with more humane livestock handling and management?
I'm only passingly familiar with her work.
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm
You mentioned how your hog reacted when cornered. Her designs avoid corners and instead use gradual curves. Obviously growing out 2-3 hogs at a time wouldn't warrant a major do over, but it may be something to consider in the future.
@@Lolo_Pas that's a great observation and we need to consider that. We're on a larger farm now and last year raised 13 hogs for folks. A larger area, but still with corners that would not be hard to round.
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm I'm amazed at the scale, planning, and investment you've put into your farm.
How much time and effort did you put into planning? Did you have some professional help in the planning phase?
@@Lolo_Pas we planned the property ourselves after researching everything we could. From the day we purchased the property in 2018 until we started the first project (Early 2020) it was just under 2 years. It's a challenge finding relevant information for our growing area as it's quite unique, so we have had to tweak many things as we've gone along. We did have assistance with the irrigation design as we needed to ensure we had adequate water flow through the whole system.
Dude, hopefully you had some wheat straw for them to bed down in at night. In addition, over 200 pound pigs, two of them, in that small enclosure? Come on, man! I do like your fencing, but since they life up with their noses and are extremely powerful, if they can get their noses under the fence, it's a goner!
Hey Horseygurl (love your UA-cam "handle" by the way). We do add alfalfa hay for them to bed down in (they love to eat it too!) and yes we're working on more space for these guys. With this expansion they really love to run around and wallow in the mud pit we've created. As for the fencing, with our rock hard dirt here in AZ (we have dirt called caliche which is literally rock) they are only able to root where we have their mud pit, so I would imagine it would be a bigger problem in areas with softer ground. But yes, if they do work their way under that hog panel, they're going to have a blast running through the fruit trees!
Thanks, Edge of Nowhere Farm. Love your moniker, as well. And thanks for adding panels for your piggies. It's only fair to provide good space for them, especially if they are going to be the main attraction on your plate one day. Yeah, they will LOVE running through the fruit trees. Cool, dude!
Aw you eat them.
Hey Kaylee. Yes, these are to feed our family and friends. We've kicked around the idea of raising some Kune Kune as pets, but our summers are difficult for pigs to handle. We may still give it a shot though, because they are a lot of fun to raise.
Edge of Nowhere Farm I have a potbelly pig and once I got her I stopped eating pork all together. Realized how amazing of pets they can be. They are among the top 4 smartest animals. Very sweet and loyal more so than a cat or dog and a lot cleaner of animals. She stays in my backyard all day from 7am-8pm then I bring her in and she sleeps in a designated place in our spare living room closes to the backyard door. Watching your videos have motivated me to get up and get in my backyard. Its quite large so I want to try and make an area for her to have a muddy watery area to roll around in when its hot. Make a pen . yours is very nice. And also make the feeder and water thing you have because the food just being out in a bowl attracts flies way too easily and she ends up tipping over the water bowls so I need tot think bigger and more efficiently like you have. We also have 4 fruit trees and thanks to you I want to use the pig's manure with the woodchips to help the trees. Thank you
You will LOVE watching your piggie in the mud! Oh and the manure mixed in woodchips is doing great for us so far. Highly recommend it if you're using heavy woodchip mulch around your trees.
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That drinker is not BP Free ! When the sun heat's up that plastic or rubber it leeches out chemical " I hope your feeding non GMO ? And as your fencing go's premiere fencing electrical is amazing & they have solar to " we love the company " I guess we're you live you can't put them on grass " I've been told you want your hog to be around 240 lbs over that it's to much fat !
Hey Michelle! Yeah, we're trying to figure out a BPA free option that isn't outrageous in price. Oh and yes, we feed GMO free with a feed we get from CA. Testing out the theory on a slightly smaller pig with the last 2 we're waiting to get back from the butcher. Our first 2 were right at 300 lbs and these last 2 were closer to 250, so we'll see. Working on moving pigs onto about an acre of land, won't be much for grass, but shrubs, trees and plenty of space to root around. Have seen the premier fencing before and glad to hear it works well. Will have to see if that will work for us here in the dry desert. Thanks for the comment!