Beginner oil painting problems: When to paint around something not over it

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  • @Mrfurball25
    @Mrfurball25 3 роки тому +39

    Painting over things is the mistake that I have been making. This is the video I need to see 🎨

  • @karenbeaney3167
    @karenbeaney3167 3 роки тому +27

    I’m new to oils and you have already answered many of the questions I have and the problems I have run into. Thank you x

  • @RobertF-
    @RobertF- 4 роки тому +24

    Really good video. You make a great point. You can also scrape off the blue paint with a palette knife or wipe it off with a paper towel, and then put in the white paint. It's oil paint so it stays wet and you can just wipe it right off.
    It's actually easier in some sense than pencil drawing where sometimes you make a mark that's too dark and you can't remove it, so it's stuck there and the drawing is ruined. That definitely can happen with pen and ink easily. That never happens with oil paint. You can always either scrape it off or just paint right over it.
    In a lot of ways painting is easier than drawing. It's amazing if you think about it, so counterintuitive. Painting is actually a pretty simple thing, that's the big "secret" of art.

  • @daveweir4429
    @daveweir4429 3 роки тому +5

    It was nice at the end there to see you just enjoy painting, improving the clouds and not instructing as much. Just watching you made it a bit more relatable for me.

  • @DH.Maker.Artist
    @DH.Maker.Artist 3 роки тому +9

    This is definitely a showcase of oils biggest advantage, its blending ability. However like you showed if you don't plan ahead or wait for a layer to dry it can all get pretty muddy. Probably another solution to the problem is just to be patient and wait for the layer to dry. Since it will already be close to where you want it it wont take much to fix it from there. But also great suggestion for using that technique for clouds in the distance. Thanks for the tips!

  • @mtlewis973
    @mtlewis973 3 роки тому +34

    chris: paints a beautiful cloud, better than anything i could ever do
    chris: you see how bad this looks?

  • @watercolourgoddess
    @watercolourgoddess 3 роки тому +25

    wow you have an amazing stage presence for an artist. I am a watercolorist and I am going to start a channel as well! its really great that you are a bit cheeky. I work in a nursing home and doing everything I can to get out by autumn 2021. Wish me luck!

    • @WhatThePolitics
      @WhatThePolitics 3 роки тому +1

      Best of luck mate

    • @matthewgrennell9293
      @matthewgrennell9293 3 роки тому

      Wet on wet would seem like the least effective alternative to painting around. If over paint it would be best to paint thick over a thinned out more dry layer in my opinion.

    • @stormcorrosion176
      @stormcorrosion176 3 роки тому +1

      Good luck!!

  • @Nadotornadocat
    @Nadotornadocat 3 роки тому +31

    You are a truly lovely teacher, I feel like I’ve learned more watching your videos today than I have my whole semester in class. I’ve been feeling extremely frustrated with painting but your videos are so calming and helpful I feel way more motivated now. Thank you so much!😸💕

  • @lindaburton1633
    @lindaburton1633 4 роки тому +10

    I love watching how you hold the brush, and how you make your brush strokes. Very helpful! Thank you. 😊

  • @Barakon
    @Barakon 2 роки тому +9

    painting on wet paint is like painting on the same layer, waiting for that paint to dry is like waiting for a new layer to load.
    wet paint clouds are misty, whispy, and distant.
    you can start with the farthest clouds and then wait for the paint to dry or have lineart for the clouds before painting the sky so that you can both distinct and distant clouds on the same layer.

  • @marypartridge5154
    @marypartridge5154 3 роки тому +2

    You give us painters hope.

  • @ralphcall4322
    @ralphcall4322 4 роки тому +15

    I am newly subscribed, and have watched only a few episodes. What impresses me the most about your tutorials is your emphasis on techniques. The way you teach is very useful, and reminds me of another artist I watched on TV in the 90's named Helen Van Wyk.

  • @Wayneawebb
    @Wayneawebb 3 роки тому +26

    Two words: Bob Ross. Had the Happiest little clouds painted over his sky,

    • @KaytayBaylay
      @KaytayBaylay 2 роки тому +1

      Wasn't he painting with acrylics, though?

    • @blazed_existence3338
      @blazed_existence3338 2 роки тому +7

      @@KaytayBaylay No. He used oils.

    • @hc509
      @hc509 5 місяців тому

      ​@@KaytayBaylay Oils he also had a proprietary "Liquid White" he would put all over his canvas and he painted wet on wet. It was a simpler and faster way to paint. I use his technique with acyrils tho. Acrylic paint dries super fast

    • @DubsteadyMusic
      @DubsteadyMusic 3 місяці тому

      Bob ross uses a different wet on wet technique designed layering paint quickly. This guy is a traditional oil painter. Two very different styles

  • @jaymccaffrey7463
    @jaymccaffrey7463 Рік тому

    So great to watch you paint Coach! We think we need a certain brush stroke or look. But you show us that it is application, moving, and layering the paint that makes the difference. Muchas gracias.

  • @jamieelder7438
    @jamieelder7438 4 роки тому +48

    Great demo! I hope this keeps me from painting muddy skies.The ending was hilarious also!

    • @lydia12356
      @lydia12356 3 роки тому

      Yas!! I’m not the only one I litter have like painted 5 canvas’s that I am like nope don’t like it I’ll paint something else over it

  • @lostisles5850
    @lostisles5850 3 роки тому +1

    When you put the white highlighting over the clouds it really brought the painting out. Thats awesome

  • @roxannekeomaka4754
    @roxannekeomaka4754 4 роки тому +56

    Love when you demonstrate. That was so clear to understand. You always have the best advice

  • @ArtistBrian
    @ArtistBrian Рік тому

    Amazing video, this brings a lot of clarity..often this mistake is done by rushing..I often work on multiple paintings now to avoid rushing allowing layers to dry then work. Thanks

  • @kimlanoue2033
    @kimlanoue2033 4 роки тому +5

    I often wondered why this was done this way but questioning it no more. I’m not going to struggle anymore more and my clouds will forever be grateful. Thank you. Kim

  • @dorrisgonnawreckyou7111
    @dorrisgonnawreckyou7111 4 роки тому +4

    Mate your videos are so usefull, i swear i have found about 3 now that cover subjects i have seen covered so many times before but you cover them so much better.

    • @paintcoach
      @paintcoach  4 роки тому +2

      Thanks! If you ever have any suggestions for videos let me know

  • @maimanon
    @maimanon 4 роки тому +13

    Thanks for the tip. Your channel deserves more views and subs. Love your contents, very useful.

  • @nikolamihaylov94
    @nikolamihaylov94 3 роки тому +50

    Very interesting, but you can paint nice clouds over the background if you do wet on wet painting. Otherwise for good detail in normal oil painting going around is the key. Nice content keep it up.

    • @MissWascallyWabbit
      @MissWascallyWabbit 3 роки тому

      Isn't this demo wet on wet? Or does wet on wet that you refer to use more medium or something?

    • @Handles-R-Lame
      @Handles-R-Lame 2 роки тому +3

      @@MissWascallyWabbit the first painting was wet on wet, no medium was used as far as I could tell. However the second painting was roughly sketched then blocked in with shapes, by its color and value.
      So with the second painting he essentially imagined the clouds as shapes first nothing more, then depending on the distance between them and the viewer, determined the value of the color(dark or light) and paint around this principle. He didnt put the blue sky in first as an undercoat like in the first painting, thus he wasn't fighting to get the color or value right.
      So first painting was basically a form of wet on wet and second was not. Hopefully this makes sense!✌

    • @_kikizaman_
      @_kikizaman_ 2 роки тому +2

      Yes! Exactly. When I paint clouds over my background (wet on wet), I think they come out best. They don’t end up looking like big fluffy clothes, but wispy thin clouds. It works much better for me, and when I do clouds over my background with wet on wet, they end up turning out extremely hyper realistic.

    • @Sarah_Stark
      @Sarah_Stark 2 роки тому +1

      Bob Ross. I have my mom's old Bob Ross white and clear mediums she got yearssss ago and I love using this technique.

  • @aaroncaterrulez123
    @aaroncaterrulez123 2 роки тому

    your videos absolutely make me a better painter. So grateful for you!

  • @jolantadrzwiecka8661
    @jolantadrzwiecka8661 3 роки тому +2

    At last I understand my mistake thanks to you👍🙏

  • @MegaPacosanchez
    @MegaPacosanchez 3 роки тому +24

    Ohh you really needed to show both the squares at the end as a comparison!! How did you not do that??

    • @LilyAmongThorns
      @LilyAmongThorns Рік тому

      I went back and looked at the finished clouds of the first one and there was nothing wrong with them, actually liked the first one slightly better to be honest…but I understand what he’s saying, that there’s more than one way and that one can save you time and frustration over another sometimes.

    • @M33838
      @M33838 Рік тому +1

      ​@@LilyAmongThorns blending is nice too, its just a matter of preference.

  • @Nioki1000
    @Nioki1000 3 роки тому +6

    I saw some painters using paper towels to clean excess paint and then painting over or u can wait till it dry up.

  • @roserousan6411
    @roserousan6411 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you . I really struggle with clouds i hope I get better

  • @muhammadsaad-cr3bw
    @muhammadsaad-cr3bw 3 роки тому +7

    Actually i prefer the top one. “I” “me”. The tutorial is great 👍 and helpful.

  • @LizGridleyArtist
    @LizGridleyArtist 4 роки тому +7

    Do you find yourself working any differently if you start on a colored or toned surface?

  • @andreajim1000
    @andreajim1000 5 місяців тому +1

    Well, the second clouds also looked better because you spent over twice as long on them. I can see that about mixing the colors painting wet on wet, but in my painting it looks like one color/brush stroke stops and another starts rather than one is in front. Like sky holes for example if there’s a lot is sky peeking through the leaves, doesn’t it look like a bunch of dots if you paint blue next to green over and over?

  • @Mimmimok
    @Mimmimok 2 роки тому

    Beautiful clauds. I am going to follow your steps.

  • @creatingkellyjay232
    @creatingkellyjay232 4 роки тому +9

    Love the Info man! I need to learn how to become as good of a teacher as you are for the videos on my channel! Thank you for what you do!

  • @hrttt9277
    @hrttt9277 3 роки тому +6

    for me the first one look more realistics, the other clouds looks more define.

  • @lydia12356
    @lydia12356 3 роки тому +5

    Acrylic to oil struggles! For real

  • @juliegroth335
    @juliegroth335 Рік тому +1

    Love your videos! Can you do one on how to add to an already dry painting?

  • @MelanieElaineH
    @MelanieElaineH 3 роки тому +4

    Would you use a larger brush to cover a large area or make more obvious strokes with. Smaller brush? I’ve been instructed both ways. I found success with watercolor, yet using various brushes in oils seems much different to me.

    • @Arr_original
      @Arr_original 2 роки тому

      From my experience it depends on what you try to achieve. If you just want a color an a huge area with no movement then it’s easier to use the big brush. As if a area is just in a constant color. If you want to draw a ocean or the sky, you can use a smaller one to indicate the winds and the small differences and the movement in the sky or the ocean itself. This can change from picture to picture depending on what you draw hopefully it helped you a bit. After all use what you prefer yourself

    • @Arr_original
      @Arr_original 2 роки тому

      Just saw that your comment is a year ago so you probably found your own way to do it

  • @rosemariesarver4640
    @rosemariesarver4640 4 роки тому +1

    answered my question of problem of overpainting

  • @phyllisharries2742
    @phyllisharries2742 2 роки тому +1

    This is great, thank you.

  • @MariaRodriguez-bw4sk
    @MariaRodriguez-bw4sk 4 роки тому +3

    This was so helpful. Thanks

  • @integrity1969
    @integrity1969 Рік тому

    You remind me Of a art teacher I had many years ago. What really caught my eye about you is The way you hold your brush not like a pencil And that's the way the teacher I had in the past held her Brush. And I have it painted Is in 15 years Am struggling with the sunset. I keep redoing the sunset cause I don't like the way it's coming out I'm still not done with it. I am not happy with it

  • @Je_me_demande_maman
    @Je_me_demande_maman 3 роки тому +1

    Great appreciation for the comparison! Thank you!

  • @jessicathayer3151
    @jessicathayer3151 3 роки тому +4

    what if you wait till its dry?

    • @kovici7226
      @kovici7226 3 роки тому +2

      sometimes its just less practical 🤷‍♀️ im not very good at oil painting yet, but oil paint's main purpose (to me) is to stay wet and work well without drying in one session. im guessing that the paint around method works best if you want to use the mindset of "all of this paint is wet, and I have to work with that"
      paintings would take much longer, and at thst point, use acrylic for it to dry quicker 🤷‍♀️ its thinking harder instead of smarter when you do that

  • @taraverkuil8910
    @taraverkuil8910 3 роки тому +2

    Great video! Thanks! Do you always hang your pale next to your canvas? Is it clipped on? Looks ideal! Thank you!

  • @Rick-tb4so
    @Rick-tb4so Рік тому +1

    Can you comment between brushing a cloud and dabbing ?

  • @ddbdbubbles
    @ddbdbubbles 2 роки тому

    love your videos! They are helping me so much. I think you could even go with a larger brush on some of these.

  • @TheBanjoShowOfficial
    @TheBanjoShowOfficial 2 роки тому +3

    Honestly the first one doesn’t look that bad in comparison. Different approaches yield different outcomes it really all depends what you want

  • @losv2434
    @losv2434 3 роки тому +1

    Excellent video as always!

  • @kylapoe7991
    @kylapoe7991 3 роки тому +14

    I tried this technique today and the colors turned out really good but they were all kind of shaped like jelly beans 😂 any tips on making more natural shapes?

    • @henrydavis4328
      @henrydavis4328 3 роки тому +4

      get some inspiration from actual images from clouds and replicate those first and that's when you yourself will start igniting your creativity and come up with some good shapes. Do it more than once and you'll get the hang of it you need practice.

  • @dmanzenpaintings
    @dmanzenpaintings 3 роки тому +1

    That's really helpful.. thanks for sharing your knowledge

  • @Bonita.ch1
    @Bonita.ch1 4 роки тому +7

    That's why you may want to do the under painting with acrylic??? 🤔😎

    • @jessicathayer3151
      @jessicathayer3151 3 роки тому +2

      do you mean painting the sky without the clouds in acrylic?

  • @lars7282
    @lars7282 2 роки тому

    That was very, very helpful. Thank you

  • @brooklyn7189
    @brooklyn7189 2 роки тому +1

    It seems that going dark to light really is the best practice… you really don’t muddy your colors

  • @kellylee4512
    @kellylee4512 3 роки тому +1

    Very good info i realy enjoy wahting it

  • @tumblingrosesstudio
    @tumblingrosesstudio 2 роки тому

    Love this demo!

  • @pistaobiela
    @pistaobiela 3 роки тому +3

    The both are good 😂. Btw, fantastic videos! Keep going and thanks for sharing your knowledge!

  • @chrisi8605
    @chrisi8605 3 роки тому +1

    How does this advice line up with your recent advice to get the darkest values down first, then add in / layer the lighter values on top?

    • @ivo76
      @ivo76 2 роки тому +1

      Exactly

    • @DylanRomanov
      @DylanRomanov 2 роки тому +1

      6:17

    • @TheBanjoShowOfficial
      @TheBanjoShowOfficial 2 роки тому

      That’s exactly how he did it though. He drew out the painting, then colored in dark to light

  • @pgemperl
    @pgemperl Рік тому

    This is helpful!

  • @beanalog8202
    @beanalog8202 Рік тому

    Good video...again. laughing at the very end, was not expecting that 🤣

  • @debramoss2267
    @debramoss2267 2 роки тому +1

    I love this thank you. When you said we don't need fat over lean for things like this, I don't know what the things like this are 😕 Could you elaborate, please?
    Thank you 🙏

  • @Amber-le8ds
    @Amber-le8ds 2 роки тому

    well that just makes sense thank you :)

  • @qinxinzhou4143
    @qinxinzhou4143 3 роки тому +1

    Painting over is my mistake too ! I was wondering why my painting looks so dirty!

  • @rrresonance2
    @rrresonance2 4 місяці тому

    You had me at beginner. 😁

  • @winterdesert1
    @winterdesert1 3 роки тому +4

    I think the clouds in the top painting felt jealous from paint-around cloud biasness.

  • @MrFox64057
    @MrFox64057 2 роки тому +2

    Idk I kinda like the first one more

  • @Donehv
    @Donehv 3 роки тому +2

    I am confused , i have learned that you can't mix warm en cool colors together otherwise you get a neutral color instead of it going forward / backward and than here i see you mixing ultramarine and phatalo blue 🤔

    • @Donehv
      @Donehv 3 роки тому +1

      I am still a beginner and confused what method is the best. Also confused with warm and cool if you want all the colors . Shouldnt you at least need a warm yellow , red blue / and also a cool one of all of them ? I also heard teal and magenta/ quadrone rose are better to mix all colors than Red and blue because you can get better purple. I really want to know what i am not getting haha xD so many things are possible hope you can help me.

  • @Myoldaccount-mu7of
    @Myoldaccount-mu7of 4 роки тому +2

    How is Bill Alexander able to put clouds over a wet sky?

    • @granmabern5283
      @granmabern5283 3 роки тому +2

      The sky is thin paint and the clouds are stabbed onto the wet sky with a 1 inch thick brush, not smeared on bit by bit. The highlights are touched onto the thick cloud paint with the tips of a fan brush.
      I still learned from this video and will start my clouds darker.

  • @PopleBackyardFarm
    @PopleBackyardFarm 4 роки тому +3

    Excellent information . I love to paint . New friend Ruthie

  • @ShakilaTaranumMaan
    @ShakilaTaranumMaan Місяць тому

    Brilliant

  • @painterlybrushes4035
    @painterlybrushes4035 4 роки тому +3

    Awesome 👍😊👍😁👍👍😉👍

  • @RT-mh8en
    @RT-mh8en 2 роки тому

    すごく勉強になりました!
    日本語字幕がほしい!

  • @sp9138
    @sp9138 Рік тому

    I like it

  • @giuliacortina.9765
    @giuliacortina.9765 4 роки тому +5

    You Are a Fantastic Teacher!! :) :)!! And an Amazing Painter!! ;) ;)!!!
    Bravissimo! :) :)!!
    Grazie^.^^.^!!!!

  • @christipatrick1127
    @christipatrick1127 Рік тому

    Are you using medium here or just mineral spirits? And do you always wear gloves?

  • @David-jf7zr
    @David-jf7zr 4 роки тому +1

    Hmmmmm..... That's all.

  • @sttarch5150
    @sttarch5150 3 роки тому +2

    I'm not a fan of sharp edged clouds.

    • @_kikizaman_
      @_kikizaman_ 2 роки тому

      Me neither. I paint my clouds over my sky (wet on wet), and they actually always turn out extremely hyper realistic. And I’m not even that good at hyper realism. But when I do clouds the way he said you shouldn’t, they turn out hyper realistic. I guess everyone’s different lol, because his technique doesn’t work for me!

  • @natalialistopadova6204
    @natalialistopadova6204 4 роки тому +2

    I don't undrrstand what you want explain. I can do it more contrast, what problem?

  • @janerogers5717
    @janerogers5717 Рік тому

    The big cloud in the bottom square looks like it has a nose and two eyes 🤣🎨

  • @wolfsommer1767
    @wolfsommer1767 4 роки тому +3

    "There is no right answer!" So stop giving the wrong answers! 1.Painting on top of wet paint is a struggle - wait till it drys! - use your Knife or rag to remove the wet paint - mix more oil or media into your top layer paint it will swim on the layer beneath! 2. Painting around an object? in your demonstration, you are obviously not aware of it - but you are putting a lot of paint on the board - if you want to do that no need to paint around the object just keep pasting paint onto the surface!

  • @Earthlight777
    @Earthlight777 3 роки тому +9

    Bob ross would disagree 😁

    • @jonathanlow1494
      @jonathanlow1494 3 роки тому +4

      Bob Ross was a lovely guy, and got a lot of people painting, but boy did he teach some bad habits and technique

    • @granmabern5283
      @granmabern5283 3 роки тому +2

      I love Bob Ross and his techniques.

    • @godoftheLTD
      @godoftheLTD 3 роки тому +5

      I don't think that there are bad techniques - just techniques that render different results.

    • @sleyaraze8916
      @sleyaraze8916 Рік тому

      @@godoftheLTD that's what Boss Ross would say. Nice.

  • @amelyaatkinson9606
    @amelyaatkinson9606 2 роки тому

    i wish you wouldve sped up more of the vid. the first box was tedious to watch.

  • @AH-pu8iu
    @AH-pu8iu 2 роки тому +2

    hey dude love your content youre a great teacher, but has anyone mentioned it sounds like your mic is too hot, we can hear you breathing and gulping and other generally unwanted noises id turn down the input my guy

  • @dorethablunt5452
    @dorethablunt5452 2 роки тому

    You are a great painter,but this video is so confusing what was the point. I didn’t get it,it was just patches of paint on a canvas.

  • @frankclarkjr6369
    @frankclarkjr6369 Рік тому

    Is this abstract clouds ?

  • @sujanithtottempudi2991
    @sujanithtottempudi2991 4 роки тому +4

    One paints over not in alla prima but when you dry layers ....painting around is done in alla prima only....this is usual thing...I didn't understand what exactly new are you trying to say🤔

    • @hgzmatt
      @hgzmatt 4 роки тому +4

      Just because you know it doesn't mean everybody else does. Just remember that and that there is still stuff you have to learn as well.

    • @sujanithtottempudi2991
      @sujanithtottempudi2991 4 роки тому +5

      @@hgzmatt so true...I was thinking for myself. I'm sorry 😞

  • @monkelife
    @monkelife 9 днів тому

    16 minutes for a bunch of nothing.

  • @hadihattat83
    @hadihattat83 2 роки тому

    Beautiful but not to the required level, you need a lot of practice on the clouds