$2200 Hay Mower Takes On The World!!! New Holland 488 Haybine (Part 1 of 3)
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I have a 489 and it cuts like a champ ! Nothing is easy using old equipment. But when it breaks and you have to fix it , makes you appreciate the old technology and how they invented them .
Great to see you again buddy ....
I used to run a 488 for my Dad but we have since upgraded to a disc bine. The only time I have slipped the drive shaft out like you did I was making a left turn in the field and I was picking the cutter ip at the same time and it managed to go past the bump stop that is supposed to keep it from going to high. We welded a slightly larger pad on to the bump stop and it never went past it again.
I have missed you - proud to see you again, Sir
Nice haybine 😊
I have decades experience using them and they are pretty reliable and way cheaper to fix than a discbine.
The only pain in the ass to work on is the chain drive for the reel and replacing that bottom sprocket. The sickle guards are also fun to replace especially after the nuts wear down to a size that no longer corresponds to any socket in your tool chest hence you take a hammer and pound the closest sized impact socket onto them.
Word of advice, always check the gearboxes for oil and it should serve you well for 20+ years. A rebuilt gearbox cost almost double what your paid for the entire haybine.
Our NH 1465 haybine has skid plates with multiple holes in them just behind the sickle bar near the wheels you can adjust for setting the cut height.
Also, don't piss your money away on that specialty sickle tooth (double), the normal teeth work just fine. What usually causes hay to hang up is that the reel tines are worn down 1/4" and they aren't sweeping the cut hay off the deck like they should unless your hay is especially heavy. It really becomes an issue later on in the season when the hay becomes lighter and finer. We replaced ours last year which solved the problem.
Another thing, it's wise to keep and extra sickle bar on hand. That way, when you break a sickle tooth out all you need to do is remove the wobbler bolt and pull the sickle bar out and push the other one in and your back up and running. It's sure faster than remove the sickle guards and replacing the broken tooth. Also noticed you have no spare sickle guards in your parts box, you might want to add a couple when a rock or beer bottle bottom finds its way into your field. They tend to break off the thin top part of the sickle guard and without it no hay gets cut!
Also, Sudex (Sorghum-Sudan grass) dries out fairly quickly even if it isn't put through a mower with a conditioner due to the grass having large stems. It's clover that really presents a problem when the humidity is high 😁
As for opening a field, go around the outside of the field in a counter-clockwise direction to mow off the outside edge then start going clockwise working your way inward. Make sure you go a little slower on the second lap around the field where you mashes down the hay to give the reel time to sweep it up. Other than that, a haybine isn't that slow and will save you a ton of cash in the long run compared to an overpriced discbine which is a money pit unless your mowing several hundred acres to justify the wear/repair expenses!
You have the right idea about saving your money to farm more ground rather than being an equipment junkie in which you end up pissing your money away. The Golden Rule to farming and staying out of debt is to use the least amount of equipment possible hence you minimize your repair expenses in the long run. With the newer equipment being nothing more than overpriced junk, it's wise to use the older, reliable equipment and just make minor repairs rather than digging yourself in DEBT! Plus, you have a lathe & mill in which case you can save even more money by fabricating your own parts to avoid being financially raped by the equipment dealers.
Good to see you back, always found your narratives humourous and I am glad to hear Mechanic Steve is still a buddy of yours.
@@himself2 I am aware of those previous "rants" I disagree with ChuckE's politics but that doesn't detract from the positive qualities of his videos. If I disagree with your politics I am not your enemy, I simply disagree, I enjoy robust discussion and certainly listening to a dissenting opinion does not imply agreement with someone's politics. Likewise, I appreciate it when someone listens to my opinions they don't have to agree just listen
@@johnburke7253 except when your political views are that everyone else it the enemy. I have no problem with anyone’s views we can discuss them or keep them to ourselves but when you blatantly state that anyone with a different viewpoint is your enemy we can’t be civil
I used to have one of those when I was doing hay here in Pa. I ended up going back to school for chemical engineering and hate it. I do not want to work for anyone so I am really thinking of firing up the old Miller roughneck or my Hobart 300 amp stick welder and mounting it on a flatbed with a drill press and a vise and finally onto my Ranger I have been working on. When I pulled it out of a mud pit on a farm in New Jersey there were holes I could put my fist through. I thought to what would Chuckee do and I spent hour and hours cutting out and butt welding metal in and now you cannot even tell there are patches!! You are awesome!
Nice to see you posting again chunky!! Hope it goes well
The legend returned
Thanks to Mechanic Steve for mentioning you on tik tok. Its how i found your new channel
Thank you for the kind words brother!
The Trials and tribulations of a new farmer. I get it when you are just starting out on any new adventure you can't always start out with the newest and greatest equipment. You have to crawl before you can walk. Great to see you posting. God Bless!!
lol ... I wouldn't buy new equipment even if I had the money because it isn't reliable and I've been farming for 30+ years 😉
Glad to see you back! You've been missed!
Glad to see you back! From Ontario
Good to see you back Chuck.
Long time no see. Glad to see you sharing your farming experiences again. Looking forward to the next one
You can still buy these haybines brand new from new holland - maybe a slight number difference, proving design, we have 3 of them, cheap, easy to run, cheap parts....all our 3 have the open knife system, yours has the guards, the open knife option seldom plugs
That's the same machine I have. It is in mint shape. Been shedded all its life! 488 NH hay bine they are unstoppable! I will soon be selling mine. Chucky it's not the machines fault the person that had it before didn't take care of it.
So glad to have you back! God bless!
Glad you are back on UA-cam
I greased my wobble box twice a day never had a problem with the haybine.
My grandfather had that exact machine and he called it a crimper. Worked great like you said until it didn't. Had to be clean field with no sticks.
I have a NH1475. $2500 from a friend. Its been an interesting endeavor to say the least.
Sure missed you brother.
Glad to see u back buddy really missed ur videos chucke returns
Hahaha exactly what I say don’t break don’t break don’t break 😂. Glad your back Chucke miss ya buddy
Didn't know you'd started a new channel. Good to see ya'
You probably dumped the clutch trying to get the machine out of the transport position causing the head to raise up by the sudden jerk. I had the same problem on my older 469. If you drop the head to the ground before trying to set it in work or transport mode you won’t have that issue.
I had a 478 haybine...thing lasted forever...but the wobble box went out and is a booger to rebuild.but very expensive to replace..so i got a 8ft kuhn disc mower...i miss my haybine
Man it’s so good to be watching your videos man,,,,,,,
Any type of farming is very expensive
Back to the old antic's 👍
Just how we like it 😉
good to see u again Amen
Definitely looking forward to watching the repair!!
The header has so much movement it probably extended way up allowing the pto to disconnect.......but I think the male end seems short from original likely bent at one time and was shortens.....also reweld the jack back further so you don't rip your tires
You’ll love the hay one when you get used to it I had one
excited to see how frequently your posting !!!
I really like New Holland haybines. When taken care of they work amazing too. When I was a kid I ran the one my family had on their farm a lot it was a bit wider cut than yours and the next gen of it but other than being kinda awkward to bring behind you to a field I really like them. There is an upgrade for them I'd say anyone having them should invest it. I forget the name of the company but theres a show called the prairie farm report here in Canada and theres a small company that makes a hydraulic reverser for the reel on these. And allows you to not have to jump out of the tractor when it gets plugged up. So cleanouts take seconds with it installed. The segment is on UA-cam to find that manufacturer of that upgrade for these if my family didnt buy a discbine now and was using the sickle bar haybine that's an upgrade it absolutely wouldve gotten for us.
They were a great working machine !!!! But seen many haybines at sales with the spacers / shims still in between the rolls ! One quarter inch of spacers ! They never knew they were still cutting with the old sickle mower ( with out conditioning ! ). And many never understood the purpose of the cranks ! Nor did they install the sickle and guards properly ! It takes an entire day or two to install these items. But most just slapped the guards in.....put the sickle in....and off to the field. Can ruin a new sickle and guards in minutes if not adjusted properly. And to just grab a new guard because one broke and install it.....beats the remaining sickle to pieces !
I love mine when they work I have 2 of them and a a couple sickle mower and a Reese 2400 drum mower but u can cut parity fast till u clog it up one time then u will hate your self when u are un plugging it lol
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I have a 488 new holland, you'll like it once you get it figured out
Did you hit a bump with the head in the air hard enough to get things bouncing? The way mine floats if the right hand side of the cutter bar went down it might have been enough to lift the left side up enough to allow the shaft to slip out.
Good day from Ontario Canada We use to have one 488, only thing I can figure is your header bounced up to high & pto fell out. We sold it in 1988 when we sold farm Thanks I think they said 88 lbs pull on cutter bar.
Can we get a update on the super duty thank you 👍🇺🇲
does Steve have any theories on why the PTO shaft slipped out like that? Also nice to see you actually being able to do some Hay without breaking down every 50 feet lol
I've never understood why there's no country songs about broken down farm equipment.
had a 488 good haybine 1000 times better than the 499 with double sickle. if the outside right wheel hits obstruction or just in a rut the big round tube of frame flexes like a tall flagpole then the header can get up past the header stop thats welded to the inner left of pole hitch area i extended that - welded some flat stock to it. important to grease the universal joint @ pto gearbox every 20 acres
Discbine!
A first ! Someone who knows how to run one if these machines ! You have the header springs adjusted properly ! Most farmers have so much weight on the head / sickle bar they cant lift it off the ground. Should be able to life the header off the ground with one hand ! But..... are the spacers removed from between the rolls ? These machines were shipped with about 1/4 inch of spacers placed between the rolls. They are only for " oats ". Most farmers ran the haybine for years and never knew the spacers were suppose to be removed
If you place a sheet of paper between the rolls you should not be able to pull it out !
Your problem here is easy to fix. Might have tipe it up on end to weld or repair it though. Otherwise the machine looks clean !
I never knew about the spacers, THANK YOU! Yeah the rollers never seemed to accomplish anything, this explains why. Thanks again!
@@officialweldingfarmingarch2041 Its sad.......even today most of the hay bines I see at auctions still have the shims in....rusted in ! Even the implement dealers will say they should be in there. They have no clue ! Ive ran my hay bine for 25 years.....rolls as tight as I could get them.......and never any damage. Even though years ago the companies had issues with the vulcanization of the rubber in the rolls. Chunks came loose and the rubber came off. This is where they come up with the idea that running the rolls touching would damage them. Its just not true ! The hay lubricates and acts as cushion and there is no excess wear. Timing the rolls is much more important ! Thats where damaging the rolls also starts.
Make sure you can turn and adjust the cranks to put pressure on the rolls. Most are rusted solid. The shims......spacers......make sure you remove them from both ends of the rolls. One bolt holds them in.....and there is normally a spot to bolt them to the main frame so you never loose them.....or should I say.......in case you want to put them back in so your hay wont dry ????? ( Joking )
i think you turned to sharp going through the gate, hay dries better when you widen out your swath. Good machine once they are all dialled in and the operator is familiar with its operation.
So what was the fate of this mower?
Oh my goodness.........just seen it........at 12:24 12:25 you do still have the shims / spacers between the rolls ! You realize your operating a basic sickle mower.......with out conditioning the hay ???? Please....... take the bolt out and remove all the shims ! Hay drying time will be dramatic !
Who ever told you they were super slow doesn't have a clue what they're talking about. I cut hay 6 mph.
If I was in that kind of hay in a good paddock with our new Holland disc bine i would be doing at least 10 mph.
chuck
Going to give OLF a run for his money?
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