Rabb told the civil servant to do their well paid job,the civil servants went to their union and they told them Rabb was bullying them Theres a big difference between bullying someone in public and in the work place
@@ninianmacmillan-keith7435 I think if politicians were kept in their place, things would be a lot better. We live in a political culture currently where these politicians feel they can do what they like … and that extends to treating people how they like.
@@pippipster6767 We elect the politicians not the civil servants. The clue is in the name servants. They should do as they are instructed. Not vice versa
@@ninianmacmillan-keith7435 But you are entirely missing the point. DR has not been found to have given instructions which were not followed. Your entire premise is off topic.
Twenty-two of the complaints were found to be baseless. There was then panic, and the bar was lowered to allow two lesser ones to be upheld. This is just so wrong.
Only chance to save our country is to get rid of the civil service and rebrand it new contracts , we’re if you don’t fulfill your contract your SACKED 🙈
Really.The only way to save this country has nothing to do with the civil service which has been around forever It's like blaming immigration on the state of the country .It's a cop out . The only chance of this country being saved is to introduce PR .This first past the post two party system serves nobody well .This is the only country in Europe that has this system apart from one other and that is practically a dictatorship . PR would also prevent any other political party of any colour doing the damage that this one has to the fabric of society and public services .
Ignoring what the report said= stupidity...lets hope you get, as the report said, 'humiliated' in front of your workmates on Monday. After all...its all good eh?
@@robali7390 Absolutely, no one ‘likes’ it. Unless they are a masochist that is. (I know one shouldn’t judge a book by its cover, but DR really does look like a nasty piece of work.)
@@tobytroubs Seemingly civil servants are sacked for doing a good job. Sir Tom Scholar (senior treasury civil servant) was sacked by Truss and Kwartang prior to their suicidal budget. He gave good advice and pointed out the risks, but they didn't like his advice. Obviously, he has since been proven right.
But that is not what the report said is it? I think you posted this garbage elsewhere. I can only hope your bosses 'humiliate' you in front of your colleagues on Monday...after all, you are no snowflake are you? you love being humiliated I suppose?
United men stand, divided they fall. Having a civil service that can dysfunction like this is like having an army or police force that can strike because they have a trade union to support them.
More total BS from you Twisted...every time you can be relied upon to post facile nonsense. That is not what the report said. I can only hope you get, and I quote the report here, 'humiliated' by your bosses in fornt of your workmates on Monday...after all...its all good eh? Its only your physical and mental health isn't it?
@@paulwalker797 I am the boss. Next question? By the way my staff don't have any problem with me telling them what to do. They respect me and that's how it should work
I'm waiting to see if they actually release the details of what he was found guilty of doing or saying before I make up my mind completely, but from what I've seen thus far, it appears that the Sir Humphrey's and even the lesser Humphreys have finally found that their time has come to decide who they want to be in charge ... and that, in my opinion, is not only wrong but the start of the fall into anarchy. The prime minister has also, on the face of it, caved to the civil service and, if that is true, is not fit for the role.
Where do you get this crap from. Raab has been known as an agressive spoilt Tory boy for years. the rport says he 'humiliated ' co workers...you might want to .ask the pro UK afghans he abandoned to the Tlaiban while he sat on his deckchair how they feel about the honourable D Raab.
What utter tosh...you live in a society where the rich and the powerful have for decades asset stripped our country, run down and cut services, stopped building for the future and sold off everything we once had for their own personal gain. Then the kool aid drinking sheep, who suffer the most, call those who oppose it all, snowflakes/lefties etc Its pathetic.
I'm sorry, but the civil servants are snowflakes. They need to buckle down and do their job. I feel sorry for Dominic Raab. I think he's lost his job unnecessarily. Shame on them.
These Civil servants want to work in the real world. They wouldn't last 2 minutes working in the private financial sector. Civil Servants is a cushy number....get in and you are set for life.
i have never understood why an MP resigns so easily IF they are Innocent, if you have done nothing wrong then stand your ground, by resigning they almost admit fault
Ehh last time I looked we didn't vote the civil servants. Since when do they decide who stays and who goes in government. The night of the long knives is due within the civil service.
To be honest, if he acted like that in factory shop floor, he'd have been put over a table. This is the problem with people like Raab. Bully boys in suits. He was just lucky to be able to pick on middle class people that can't deal with bully's the way us working class do. I've seen many an arrogant manager try to bully staff, a fair number of them were handed their asses as the worst that can happen is that you get the sack.
Depends on what the documents say and what he was found guilty of. Twice is two to many. He is a civil servant himself and comes under civil service guidelines as well as the ministerial code
They need to reinstate objective selection processes. The problem with the civil service is that there's too many second-raters preferring second-raters. The entry examinations don't even need to be that difficult; it just needs to be something that people aren't recruited because of their politics or because of cronyism or because they're reassuringly feckless or because they really need the job because they've got a mortgage, children and a smart-phone addiction that wouldn't be tolerated in the private sector. Where I work, most of work involves using computers. Barely anyone is literate let alone computer-literate. And if you insist on standards or urge them to do a bit of self-improvement, you get called a bully. It's appalling.
The intensity of bullying is only feelability of the person being bullied.. When doe’s discipline become bullying? If staff are frustratingprogress they deserve to be. Criticised. But that can be seen as bullying. If he bullies one then there will be others. Not good.
Civil servants think they run the government. Some of these allegations are justified but it does seem that this was a stitch up. Why should he not be able to tell people to do their jobs.
What a load of rubbish! You don't have to be screaming and shouting to be a bully! A good manager can adapt their style to get their staff on their side. Hectoring people has never worked in all of history and only gets peoples backs up.
How would they have got on in a Factory or a Drop Forge l wonder ? My supervisor Margaret told me n my friend to move our arses n stop laughing , l'm still ere , l didn't melt .....
Obviously this person is on raabs side let alone some of the people who personally experienced abuse,so the opinion of this person is knocking the persons who had been bullied.
Less than 10% and he's out if a job. But but M'lud, I've only been found guilty of 2 murders, I've been stitched up. As for these 2 clowns saying Raab works incredibly hard...this is the bloke who couldn't even be bothered ringing the Afghan Embassodor and carried on holidaying.
That title is spot on. Sack any civil servant that doesn't do as commanded and tries to be work shy.
Rabb told the civil servant to do their well paid job,the civil servants went to their union and they told them Rabb was bullying them
Theres a big difference between bullying someone in public and in the work place
Totally agree with this
Totally disagree.
The entire premise is wrong.
It essentially assumes Raab was in the right, with which I completely disagree.
@@pippipster6767 so you know more than we do ? I believe Raab is in the right. Civil servants need to be kept in their place
@@ninianmacmillan-keith7435
I think if politicians were kept in their place, things would be a lot better. We live in a political culture currently where these politicians feel they can do what they like … and that extends to treating people how they like.
@@pippipster6767 We elect the politicians not the civil servants. The clue is in the name servants. They should do as they are instructed. Not vice versa
@@ninianmacmillan-keith7435
But you are entirely missing the point. DR has not been found to have given instructions which were not followed. Your entire premise is off topic.
Twenty-two of the complaints were found to be baseless. There was then panic, and the bar was lowered to allow two lesser ones to be upheld. This is just so wrong.
This only happens because we have weak genuine leadership from both party's.
Only one party is leading Patricia!...the party of toffs, corrupt and self serving, rich loudmouths....the Tories.
More accurately Patricia would be 'genuinely weak lack of evidence to prove any leadership at all' 😊
Because they are taking their orders from outside Westminster.
Not having a backbone makes it easier to wriggle in and out of holes.
Only chance to save our country is to get rid of the civil service and rebrand it new contracts , we’re if you don’t fulfill your contract your SACKED 🙈
Really.The only way to save this country has nothing to do with the civil service which has been around forever It's like blaming immigration on the state of the country .It's a cop out .
The only chance of this country being saved is to introduce PR .This first past the post two party system serves nobody well .This is the only country in Europe that has this system apart from one other and that is practically a dictatorship .
PR would also prevent any other political party of any colour doing the damage that this one has to the fabric of society and public services .
Asking someone a question at work = Bullying
Telling someone they haven’t done a good job = Bullying
Ignoring what the report said= stupidity...lets hope you get, as the report said, 'humiliated' in front of your workmates on Monday. After all...its all good eh?
What a load of nonsense.
@@robali7390
Absolutely, no one ‘likes’ it. Unless they are a masochist that is. (I know one shouldn’t judge a book by its cover, but DR really does look like a nasty piece of work.)
You are creating a straw man which doesn't address the problem of bullying.
Yes investigate the senior civil servants for bullying and complaining against ministers
Yep he’s spot on. Make a mistake and you expect some flak not these snow flakes that we have
Why do all Brexiters lose their jobs for misconduct or ineptitude. Raab, Patel, Johnson, Zahawi, Truss, Kwartang, Braverman, Patterson, Bridgen.
Because they are liars and corrupt.
yet CivIl servants keep their jobs when they are guilty of misconduct and ineptitude....go figure .
@@tobytroubs Seemingly civil servants are sacked for doing a good job. Sir Tom Scholar (senior treasury civil servant) was sacked by Truss and Kwartang prior to their suicidal budget. He gave good advice and pointed out the risks, but they didn't like his advice. Obviously, he has since been proven right.
@@mrrt2317 yeah you pickout one in 40 years
Bearing in mind Remainers are in charge , how's that working out ? the current Tories are not Tories,they are the Liberal Left .
Telling someone to do there job better is not bulling
But that is not what the report said is it? I think you posted this garbage elsewhere. I can only hope your bosses 'humiliate' you in front of your colleagues on Monday...after all, you are no snowflake are you? you love being humiliated I suppose?
United men stand, divided they fall. Having a civil service that can dysfunction like this is like having an army or police force that can strike because they have a trade union to support them.
Civil servants 😢😢😢😢 My boss told me to do my job 😭😭😭😭
More total BS from you Twisted...every time you can be relied upon to post facile nonsense. That is not what the report said. I can only hope you get, and I quote the report here, 'humiliated' by your bosses in fornt of your workmates on Monday...after all...its all good eh? Its only your physical and mental health isn't it?
@@paulwalker797 I am the boss. Next question? By the way my staff don't have any problem with me telling them what to do. They respect me and that's how it should work
So telling people to do their jobs is now considered bullying
I agree.. and I also hope that the blob don't get away with this, it's rather treasonous and they seem to get away with it.
Well said Richard
I agree he was stitched up
I'm waiting to see if they actually release the details of what he was found guilty of doing or saying before I make up my mind completely, but from what I've seen thus far, it appears that the Sir Humphrey's and even the lesser Humphreys have finally found that their time has come to decide who they want to be in charge ... and that, in my opinion, is not only wrong but the start of the fall into anarchy. The prime minister has also, on the face of it, caved to the civil service and, if that is true, is not fit for the role.
Sounds to me like Raab is the victim of bullying
Where do you get this crap from. Raab has been known as an agressive spoilt Tory boy for years. the rport says he 'humiliated ' co workers...you might want to .ask the pro UK afghans he abandoned to the Tlaiban while he sat on his deckchair how they feel about the honourable D Raab.
We now live in a society where the weak have the power and those that have power are weak.
Ridiculous situation.
The silent majority need to stand up against the loony lefty Guardian readers
What utter tosh...you live in a society where the rich and the powerful have for decades asset stripped our country, run down and cut services, stopped building for the future and sold off everything we once had for their own personal gain. Then the kool aid drinking sheep, who suffer the most, call those who oppose it all, snowflakes/lefties etc Its pathetic.
civil servants should do what they are told they are not asked to think about policy just to get on with there jobs
the gift is endless
You cannot issue a report on Bullying without first defining how and what you measured it against! A disgrace!
I'm sorry, but the civil servants are snowflakes. They need to buckle down and do their job. I feel sorry for Dominic Raab. I think he's lost his job unnecessarily. Shame on them.
I like richard tice and his wife who is also on talk tv they talk good sense
Did you richard tice and his wife interview with lord Hesetine he made them look stupid.
These Civil servants want to work in the real world. They wouldn't last 2 minutes working in the private financial sector.
Civil Servants is a cushy number....get in and you are set for life.
i have never understood why an MP resigns so easily IF they are Innocent, if you have done nothing wrong then stand your ground, by resigning they almost admit fault
You mean Guilt ..
@@craphead9842 exactly, you got it
Ehh last time I looked we didn't vote the civil servants.
Since when do they decide who stays and who goes in government.
The night of the long knives is due within the civil service.
Why will u not allow us to tick the agree sign?
Raab shouldn't have resigned, he was on notice. The work is demanding, some temper is to be expected etc
Who believes Ginna Miller! Hearsay your honkers. If not. Put her into court for libel. She hasn't a leg to stand on.
They all need a good shake up
To be honest, if he acted like that in factory shop floor, he'd have been put over a table. This is the problem with people like Raab. Bully boys in suits. He was just lucky to be able to pick on middle class people that can't deal with bully's the way us working class do. I've seen many an arrogant manager try to bully staff, a fair number of them were handed their asses as the worst that can happen is that you get the sack.
Something wrong with manners as taught in upbringing and schools which reeks of spoilt exceptionalism and self entitlement.
Yes Richard Tice is right about civil service running government not mp's. Sack on the spot. Then go running to labour complaining to starmer.
Depends on what the documents say and what he was found guilty of. Twice is two to many. He is a civil servant himself and comes under civil service guidelines as well as the ministerial code
Dominic Raab his great I wish him all the best I was hoping one day he come prime minister but anyway good luck to him
the ones that told you take poison to protect granny to kill granny to tell you cant go there funeral but you can pay for costs
the people who made those false allegations should be sued. I hope he does sue them. liars good for talk tv bringing this to us
Guilty so he walked,so now give him a good kicking ...IMO
Bullies always lie just like these on this channel ...
Bullying of any kind is wrong throughout your life ...IMO
MPs elected. Civil Servants appointed. Its that simple.
Dominant raab 😂
These politicians like Rabb continually mess up. So don't take your anger and incompetence out on them they are only doing their job.
Vote Reform
They need to reinstate objective selection processes. The problem with the civil service is that there's too many second-raters preferring second-raters. The entry examinations don't even need to be that difficult; it just needs to be something that people aren't recruited because of their politics or because of cronyism or because they're reassuringly feckless or because they really need the job because they've got a mortgage, children and a smart-phone addiction that wouldn't be tolerated in the private sector. Where I work, most of work involves using computers. Barely anyone is literate let alone computer-literate. And if you insist on standards or urge them to do a bit of self-improvement, you get called a bully. It's appalling.
The intensity of bullying is only feelability of the person being bullied.. When doe’s discipline become bullying? If staff are frustratingprogress they deserve to be. Criticised. But that can be seen as bullying. If he bullies one then there will be others. Not good.
Vote Reform UK.
Civil servants think they run the government. Some of these allegations are justified but it does seem that this was a stitch up. Why should he not be able to tell people to do their jobs.
Just using the "snowflake lazy civil servant" argument is not convincing.
What a load of rubbish! You don't have to be screaming and shouting to be a bully! A good manager can adapt their style to get their staff on their side. Hectoring people has never worked in all of history and only gets peoples backs up.
Dominic raab is still M.P £85.000 salary plus expenses.
Don’t worry Dick….you’ll never ever have to work with a civil servant !!!
Dominic deck chair bullying rabb.
How would they have got on in a Factory or a Drop Forge l wonder ? My supervisor Margaret told me n my friend to move our arses n stop laughing , l'm still ere , l didn't melt .....
So let's listen to the opinion of a person who wasn't there. Raab is a bully and has rightly resigned. If he wasn't wrong he wouldn't have quit .
Tail wagging the dog.
Raab
Shame the report seems to say the opposite . We will see when the report is released. I hope a lot of people vote reform to split the right wing vote.
Obviously this person is on raabs side let alone some of the people who personally experienced abuse,so the opinion of this person is knocking the persons who had been bullied.
Richard would sort them. Vote Reform 💯🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Less than 10% and he's out if a job. But but M'lud, I've only been found guilty of 2 murders, I've been stitched up. As for these 2 clowns saying Raab works incredibly hard...this is the bloke who couldn't even be bothered ringing the Afghan Embassodor and carried on holidaying.