This is really beautiful to me because everything we did when saddle training now has a name. My Mom taught me these same methods, but there were not really any names for them. I totally get the having a bit in, and not using it at this stage of training. It's about comfort. The horse needs to become comfortable carrying the bit, not just "used" to it. Mom always taught me to ride from my seat. EVERYTHING is about weight distribution and motion. We didn't use spurs, at all. But since we were training Arabians for normal use, and not shows, you really do not need spurs on Arabs. They tend to be ULTRA sensitive to start with, so it is easy to train gently. Our horses were trained to ride with a halter, but carrying a bit. Eventually, we transitioned to using just the bit, but by then they knew one rein stops AND seat stops (I'm not sure of what to call it properly), and neck reining without ANY pressure on the bit. I've had other riders criticize me for my loose reins... Especially on an Arab. What they didn't know, that when your horse is plugged into YOU, and has confidence IN YOU. there's no need for a tight rein. They knew what we wanted from our seat, leg pressure, or from the rein touching their necks, NOT their mouth. Mom taught me to pressure with my calf, not my heel. Heels were only used if the message was not getting through, which meant you lost the horse's mind, or we called it "attention". It was essential to learn to "read" a horse's body language. Ears, eyes, tail, muscle tension, breathing... That comes from YEARS of ground work. We didn't full weight "ride" them until 4 +/- yrs old. Horses need to be mature in mind and body before you sit on them, but ground work starts (or it should) at just a couple weeks old. Touching, brushing, picking up feet, leaning over, blankets, (at least here in the Northeast), tiny little halters, halter training... It progresses as the colt matures. So many people go too fast. Doing too much too soon. The horse brain has to mature just like a human's does. A 5 yr old child doesn't have the ability to make the snap judgments to drive a car, like an immature horse cannot learn everything all at once. You gotta go slow. One thing I HATE about most "Arab-people" is they take a highly sensitive, extremely smart horse, and make it into a crazy idiot, just because it's "pretty"!!!! ARRRGH!!!! Arabs can be calm, confident, gentle and LOYAL to the point of protecting you. I'd LOVE to see what you can do with an Arab!!! It would help people see that all Arabs are not crazy, dangerous, idiots.
You are the most honest horse trainer ..you say it and feel it how it is. Thanks to Deb also .. always love your input… Thankyou both from the horse to the pupil 💕💕Australian
In my humble opinion.. Mr. Pat Is on the heels or all ready there. of some of the Greatest Horseman There ever was or ever will be.. .. ie...Tom Durants and etal....😮❤
I have a question. I was always taught that you shouldn't trot or lope going home. If you trot the horses when you're wrangling them back to the corral, aren't you teaching the horse you're on to trot towards home?
@@PatnDebPuckett I was inquiring about the one the person wrangling the horses is riding. Not the loose horses. If you are riding a horse and are trotting it back to the barn, it is learning to trot to the barn with you on it isn't it?
You have asked the horse to trot in. Horses are smart enough to know what the job is versus when they are trying to hurry home. Your horse should be able to do whatever you ask.
@@PatnDebPuckett Thank you. I've been concerned about this for a number of years. I graze my horses every day except when there's snow on the ground.. When I bring them in I just take a halter out with me and tie a quick hackamore to a different one each day. Then I use that horse to drive the others home. I have been keeping the riding horse at the walk, but we're a small outfit (6 horses and right now 10 steers).
Pat; You may remember me. I have a 13 year old made jumper. At the end of each session I exhale, set my spine and ask her stop. I then get her to give the right jaw with one rein and then the left. I then pat and give her thanks. Is this correct? Or am I screwing up? Charlie
I hate to be a contrarian. Pat was very crude in the way he rode Blue. Bump? I saw a bunch of heavy handed jerking. When Blue braced Pat just yanked harder. My 50+ years in the horse business tells me that kind of heavy handedness builds fear and resentment in a horse. All that could have been done very much more softly and gotten better results, probably in less time. I have to say I cringed watching this.😔
I think you said that Pat jerked harder when Blue braced harder. That’s the correct response. The part you missed is that as soon as Blue yielded to the pressure, Pat released. It can be ugly before it’s pretty. Especially if the horse has been ridden poorly in the past. If Pat had yielded to Blue, he would have taught him that so long as he continues bracing, Pat will yield to him. Riding softly comes later after the horse understands that if he yields, he will get a release. I will also point out that Blue was ridden in a halter. So cringing really wasn’t necessary. Pat would never bump him in the mouth.
Pat is the real deal. We use both his missing link snaffle and we use his same style horse roping methods. The best!
‘I’m borderline giddy” 😂 You sir, have the best dry humour in the West.
This is really beautiful to me because everything we did when saddle training now has a name. My Mom taught me these same methods, but there were not really any names for them.
I totally get the having a bit in, and not using it at this stage of training. It's about comfort. The horse needs to become comfortable carrying the bit, not just "used" to it.
Mom always taught me to ride from my seat.
EVERYTHING is about weight distribution and motion.
We didn't use spurs, at all.
But since we were training Arabians for normal use, and not shows, you really do not need spurs on Arabs. They tend to be ULTRA sensitive to start with, so it is easy to train gently.
Our horses were trained to ride with a halter, but carrying a bit.
Eventually, we transitioned to using just the bit, but by then they knew one rein stops AND seat stops (I'm not sure of what to call it properly), and neck reining without ANY pressure on the bit.
I've had other riders criticize me for my loose reins... Especially on an Arab.
What they didn't know, that when your horse is plugged into YOU, and has confidence IN YOU. there's no need for a tight rein.
They knew what we wanted from our seat, leg pressure, or from the rein touching their necks, NOT their mouth.
Mom taught me to pressure with my calf, not my heel. Heels were only used if the message was not getting through, which meant you lost the horse's mind, or we called it "attention".
It was essential to learn to "read" a horse's body language. Ears, eyes, tail, muscle tension, breathing...
That comes from YEARS of ground work.
We didn't full weight "ride" them until 4 +/- yrs old. Horses need to be mature in mind and body before you sit on them, but ground work starts (or it should) at just a couple weeks old. Touching, brushing, picking up feet, leaning over, blankets, (at least here in the Northeast), tiny little halters, halter training... It progresses as the colt matures.
So many people go too fast. Doing too much too soon. The horse brain has to mature just like a human's does.
A 5 yr old child doesn't have the ability to make the snap judgments to drive a car, like an immature horse cannot learn everything all at once.
You gotta go slow.
One thing I HATE about most "Arab-people" is they take a highly sensitive, extremely smart horse, and make it into a crazy idiot, just because it's "pretty"!!!! ARRRGH!!!!
Arabs can be calm, confident, gentle and LOYAL to the point of protecting you.
I'd LOVE to see what you can do with an Arab!!!
It would help people see that all Arabs are not crazy, dangerous, idiots.
We’re big fans of yours out here in Kentucky!
Another fan from Ky here!
THANK YOU for all the advice !!!
40 ' round pen 👍
Thank you for sharing your thoughts so generously all the time ❤
Pat borderline giddy. I love it! Masterful to watch
Very commendable horseman and interesting stories
You are a real California horseman! Appreciate you and your perspectives based on years of experience.
You are the most honest horse trainer ..you say it and feel it how it is. Thanks to Deb also .. always love your input… Thankyou both from the horse to the pupil 💕💕Australian
Thankyou for another awesome video.. can't wait for the missing link snaffle to arrive.😊
I want to hear Pat talk about starting broncy colts and how to handle or restart them
Great again. Tracey (Australia)
Great work, lateral flex ion is a winner in every horse.👍
Tasmania Australia
Nice work Pat 💪
Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I appreciate it.
Final Ride ?
We were in NM this month . Thought of you and the Work you and Deb are doing with people horses and the world
450 views in an hour ! beautiful.. thanks for the master lesson, k
Nice Pat!!
thank you for another good one, be interesting to hear your take on the difference between narrow chested horses and wide chested horses
Bet you ten dollars to a donut 😂❤ I learn so much from you guys. You're my favs!!
purple mountain majesty!!
Nice🎉
Good job mate.
Nice job Pat!!!
In my humble opinion..
Mr. Pat Is on the heels or all ready there. of some of the Greatest Horseman There ever was or ever will be.. ..
ie...Tom Durants and etal....😮❤
Great video thank you
I considered walking a soured or young horse out then riding it back ?
Getting old need to be safe riding OUTSIDE
Great video! Thank you.
Honest question. Is there something not right with this horse's back legs? They look weak. Or just a muscle issue.
It kind of looks like this colt might be sore...Tends to come to a stop with hind legs spread and then points with his right front.
💵🍩Ten dollars and a doughnut lol 😂
Thanks!
I have learned so much from Pats videos
What bit are you starting him in?
Thanks for sharing your methods .just wondering what's on the other side of that beautiful mountain. Iam Kent from Minnesota
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"Borderline giddy!" indeed 😅
Hey Pat & Deb thanks for the snubbing post info I'd asked about the other day.
Where did old blue go ?
He's living his best life in Topanga CA.
hi pat what size is that round pen you are in? thanks
40 ft breaking pen is definitely the way to go.
I have a question. I was always taught that you shouldn't trot or lope going home. If you trot the horses when you're wrangling them back to the corral, aren't you teaching the horse you're on to trot towards home?
Wrangling loose horses does not teach them to trot home.
@@PatnDebPuckett I was inquiring about the one the person wrangling the horses is riding. Not the loose horses. If you are riding a horse and are trotting it back to the barn, it is learning to trot to the barn with you on it isn't it?
You have asked the horse to trot in. Horses are smart enough to know what the job is versus when they are trying to hurry home. Your horse should be able to do whatever you ask.
@@PatnDebPuckett Thank you. I've been concerned about this for a number of years. I graze my horses every day except when there's snow on the ground.. When I bring them in I just take a halter out with me and tie a quick hackamore to a different one each day. Then I use that horse to drive the others home. I have been keeping the riding horse at the walk, but we're a small outfit (6 horses and right now 10 steers).
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Borderline giddy 😂 gotta remember that.
Blue looks a little browner today? Did you give him a coat of polish and a good buffing 🇨🇦🤣
Pat; You may remember me. I have a 13 year old made jumper. At the end of each session I exhale, set my spine and ask her stop. I then get her to give the right jaw with one rein and then the left. I then pat and give her thanks. Is this correct? Or am I screwing up?
Charlie
This horse must have some serious kinks for Pat to take extra time before getting on.
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I hate to be a contrarian. Pat was very crude in the way he rode Blue. Bump? I saw a bunch of heavy handed jerking. When Blue braced Pat just yanked harder. My 50+ years in the horse business tells me that kind of heavy handedness builds fear and resentment in a horse. All that could have been done very much more softly and gotten better results, probably in less time. I have to say I cringed watching this.😔
I think you said that Pat jerked harder when Blue braced harder. That’s the correct response. The part you missed is that as soon as Blue yielded to the pressure, Pat released. It can be ugly before it’s pretty. Especially if the horse has been ridden poorly in the past. If Pat had yielded to Blue, he would have taught him that so long as he continues bracing, Pat will yield to him. Riding softly comes later after the horse understands that if he yields, he will get a release. I will also point out that Blue was ridden in a halter. So cringing really wasn’t necessary. Pat would never bump him in the mouth.
Do we know what Blue's general breeding is? His head seems a bit Arabian, no? Handsome animal. Thx for the vids!