@@LSA30 lol you reminded me of "Doug Dimmadome, Owner of the Dimmsdale Dimmadome but he can't get his name right". If you haven't seen it, watch it and thank me later
Hawks fan here. Been watching a whooole lot of arm chair q-b’ing on this (of course, that’s what we do this time of year as fans) but peeps really are overthinking things. Hawks need everything everywhere. Goal, D, Offense - you name it we need it. So I believe the pick is best available - and that’s Demidov.
Exactly, you take the best player available and if you have a log jam at that position you can trade one of them for whatever position you need. It’s very rare that reaching in drafts for your exact need works as intended.
Its not just BPA... its who has the highest offensive ceiling. You dont pair a talent like Bedard with a bunch of middling but high floor talents... You pair him with a future star.
Well, well well, the guy calling people reddit warriors for reporting the news that KD wanted Demidov AND Levshunov, wanted Demidov, and is now talking crap to other people who tell him this news💀
"Just another Hawks reddit warrior that worked themselves into a lather over Demidov and apparently have stronger scouting skills than the entire Hawks staff. Oh, and who don't consider that Demidov's lack of competition vs. men is too much a concern to take a chance on at #2 when you have arty there."
He couldve easily been playing in the KHL this year but it sounds like the teams been punishing him for not signing a contract extension. Hes looking to get out of Russia asap which is good news for teams looking to draft him
Demidov all the way from this Hawks fan. The notion that having to wait a year for him to come over is kind of silly considering all draft picks except very few require at least 1 year after they're drafted before they're ready to play in the NHL. As for Hawks drafting Russian players - the Hawks drafted Roman Kantserov early in the 2nd round last year (#44) and he in under contract until after the 2025/26 season - so it isn't a problem.
I feel that if the Hawks don't go with Demidov, but they still want to go with a forward, it's going to be Lindstrom. Then there's the question of "Do they consider a D-Man?", that's entering Davidson's sphere of thought then Levshunov is the likely pick. Regardless though of if they go with a North American draftee, or with Demidov, their first year is likely going to be with Rockford, it's not going to be right to the Blackhawks like it was with Bedard. Also, my concern with drafting Russian players is how many will be called back for "mandatory service", like with Fedotov and what they tried to do with Panarin, this may be a nothing burger with cheese (always with cheese), but it's always in the back of my head.
I don't believe he does. I bet the Hawks are looking at either Levshunov or they may do something like TRADE DOWN a few spots and grab the best two defensemen...Parekh or Buium.
@GiovannisKitchen he has said he's coming over when his current contract is up after next season and he knows it may mean another year in the MHL for punishment from SKA for not signing an extension.
Great video! More Blackhawks content please! I think there’s a 70% chance Demidov is their guy. He will be the best talent available and GMKD will go that route I believe
I’m a Hawks fan and I’m all in on them drafting Demidov! He looks so dynamic and creative. I think they can find defensemen value with the 18th pick, hopefully Adam Jiricek will still be there!!
Thanks for PASSING on DEMIDOV ...!! MONTREAL will benefit greatly from this amazing draft pick ..!! He is being touted as the next KUCHEROV !! GO HABS ..!!😂
I think it has to be Demidov. A lot of our (Blackhawks) forward prospects don't really project as top-line forwards right now. Nazar and Moore seem like the pair for the second line. Too early to tell on guys like Lardis, Misiak, Kantserov, Hayes, and Greene. Another forward at 1.18 might even be the move, honestly.
Reading over these comments you’d think San Jose would be crazy to pass up Demidov. “Well we all know Celebrini will go first, whatever, but have you seen this Demidov kid, he’ll be the next blah blah etc.”
Demidov isn’t as good as Celebrini defensively. Celebrini is better all around and definitely more pro ready at the moment. But Demidov has the potential to put up 90-100 point seasons when he gets into his prime, and he’s certainly not a bum on defense. He’s probably around average on defense. He reminds me of Patrick Kane a lot at this age
If ppg forwards are a dime a dozen then why do the Blackhawks have only one on the team currently? They just came off of their worst offensive season in team history. Not all of their forward prospects are going to pan out. Their first two picks should be skilled forwards like Demidov and Senneke for example.
That's what I think really makes this draft one to watch is because we ALL know Macklin Celebrini is expected to be the 1st overall pick, But after that, Things could get interesting because we could some players go earlier than expected and we could some players go later than expected.
This Demidov kid is one of the most exciting players you'll ever watch. The way he skates and plays the game is so unorthodox yet beautiful. As a Blackhawks fan this is my pick, I'll be disappointed if we pass up on him
@@agentshadow7456. We have good forward prospects but not another superstar and we have a lot of good defensive prospects we need one more star forward
@@agentshadow7456 You're allowed your own opinion, nobody says that you're not. Your opinions can also be challenged. People get what you're saying and they disagree. You don't have to get a defenceman this early if they're not that good and another top quality forward isn't something to be sniffed at.
@@Stephens_Rocket Not at all. Demidov is gonna add offence as he is likely gonna be picked. So I will delete my past comments of that after seeing all the points made. I still think they are better off adding something that they do need rather than something that overflows their forwards even more with skill and future stars. But I do understand why people would want Demidov as having any other team get him puts the rest in danger of a star and potential superstar.
Im rooting for Levshunov for the hawks (totally biased MSU alum and it would be awesome to watch him move to my nhl team) but the more i hear about demidov i have to admit he looks solid too, at this point i think id be sad if we didnt get levshunov but demidov would be a good consolation prize
The reason why I think Demidov is THE fit for Hawks is because of his hockey sense/skill. His gamestyle matches that of Bedard where he forces the defensive structure to make a play on him if they don't he'll eat you alive... and when they commit, he'll burn you by getting puck to open man or out skill the opponent... he's a player that breaks down defense... absolutely lethal if combined with Bedard...
ivan "bpa" demidov aka "the dagger" should be the pick at #2 for the hawks (fingers crossed). rinzel's numbers at minnesota this past year are close to the numbers put up by lev. plus, kaiser, edm (who played some right side in rockford), and allan are otw as well. bedard needs reinforcements, he needs a comrade.
Seems to me that hockey positions, at least for forwards, has become you either can take face-offs or your 3rd option. With the forwards interchanging of both offense and defense. That is the only thing I really see that is strictly positional now.
If RD prospects are as hard to come by as a lot of analysts say then I think the obvious choice is Lev. If he falls to the ducks I am jumping for joy! Ducks are in the best position in my opinion. Either way they get their RD of the future or a winger with upside to score 100 points someday. (I think that’s a bit high but it’s what a lot of people are saying about Demi).
I think it's Demidov @ 2 then Kyle from Chicago trades back into the top 10, especially after trading picks with the Islanders a few days ago. Hawks have plenty of picks, time to use them, I would send an offer to Utah to try to get to 6
Hey THG! Bob's most recent ranking actually has him at #2. Sportsnet Cosentino says he's more talented than Levshunov (the #2) but has him ranked at #3 because of Russia! Hockey Prospecting's List hasn't been updated since Jan but Dobber/Recruit/Smaht/ISS/Daily Faceoff/etc. All have him at #2. I think the rankings you chose may have been misleading because they're either out of date, writers not scouts, or are ones that focus on country of origin, not skill. It's almost universal that Demidov is #2 based on skill in the most recent rankings. Ik you mentioned that you don't have the most updated rankings but just in the future it may be more helpful to use the most up to date scouting reportings, not old reports by writers.
One thing folks are not taking onto account IMO os that Davidson REALLY likes good skaters. Nazar, moore, even Bedard. Even Vlassic is good for his size And as other have said, its harder to get top emd RHD than forwards. For that reason i really think they go with levshunov at #2 and a wonger at ,#18 (or higher ofnthey trade up).
If the Hawks decide to solidify their D-core with Levshunov I wonder if the Ducks take Demidov even though he isn't the big skilled two way forward Verbeek prefers.
My thoughts exactly. I’m a ducks fan who’s so excited for lev but if somehow the hawks pass on demi I just don’t know how the ducks skipping this sort of potential offensive talent makes sense. Lindstrom is a GMPV type of player and of course there are a few D men who definitely look the current managements style of player….but the hype for demi is real. I try not to fall for anyone anymore and just wait and see. I could’ve sworn the ducks were taking fantilli last year. Now we’ve got Leo and I couldn’t be happier!
according to many users on capfriendly, the blackhawks are very high on dickinson. but i'm a jets fan and i think the hawks should draft demidov analysis on demidov: speedy skater, good 200-ft player, can shoot from anywhere, smart. defensively he needs to work on his decision making. does have kucherov upside, but in terms of style, i would compare his game to ehlers
I think so. After the Hawks moved up to #18 by making that trade with the Islanders, Chicago can now probably draft Adam Jiricek at #18, giving them the right side defenseman they passed on by not taking Levshunov at #2. Anaheim would probably take Levshunov at #3, giving them back the blue liner they gave up when they traded Jamie Drysdale for Cutter Gauthier. Columbus at #4 then most likely takes Cayden Lindstrom.
They blew it by not taking Michkov last year and are hoping to make up for it this year. Slim chance Demidov falls that far. At best they get Lindstrom...which isn't too bad when it comes down to it.
I think the Hawks need defense more than anything else. However, the Hawks aren’t above hiring players that sell tickets, so that’s my take on the Hawk’s priorities.
They are coming off the worst offensive season in franchise history. They absolutely need offense more than anything else. Demidov at 2 and another fwd at 18.
The Blackhawks are in an ideal and very interesting position in this year's draft. They have picks #2 and #18 (after trading up with NYI earlier this week), and rumor has it that the Hawks would like to trade up even higher. More on that later. This year's draft is filled with very good RD prospects which are typically coveted because they are hard to find. Next year's draft isn't expected to be heavy with RD. Does this mean the Hawks go with the best RD, Artyom Levshunov, at #2 and take a forward at #18 knowing that they have 2 more 1st rounders coming in the 2025 draft? Maybe, but the opportunity presented by great depth at a given position is that you can maximize your pick's value by taking one later in the 1st round and using the 2nd overall pick on the best player available (in this case Demidov), thus maximizing the value of BOTH picks. There are 4 RD expected to be selected in the top 17 picks with 2 more projected to still go later in the 1st round after the Hawks 2nd pick at #18. If the Hawks are able to trade up into the top 12 picks, they would ensure themselves of getting 1 of those top 4 RD, and that would enable the Hawks (and make it much more likely) to maximize the value of their 2 first rounders by taking Demidov at #2 and the best available RD (likely Yakemchuk) with their 2nd first rounder. While Chicago does have RD Seth Jones under contract thru 2029-30 and RD prospect 2022 1st rounder Sam Rinzel in the pipeline, veteran RD Connor Murphy is only signed for 2 more years, and only has one year in which he's played 80 games in his last six seasons. All of his other seasons he's played less than 60 games. Plus, outside of Rinzel, there are no noteworthy RD prospects in the system. It is clear that the Hawks need some high-ceiling talent at the RD position. That said, and as previously discussed, the Hawks don't have to use the 2nd overall pick on a RD. They also have the 18th, 34th and 50th picks this season in a draft that his unusually deep in RD prospects. BUT, there is something to be said for taking the BEST RD prospect. It is unlikely that the Hawks will be picking this high in the draft for a long time. It is also unlikely that another draft will be so heavy in RD prospects for a long time. The Hawks take a big risk by trying to get too cute and thread the needle here. You've got Levshunov staring you right in the face at #2. You know you won't be able to get this good of a RD prospect on a rookie contract for a very, very long time. And you know that your organization could really use an excellent RD in the near future. If the Hawks are unable to move up from #18 to around #12 or #13, they risk missing out on getting one of a very talented group of RD prospects. Can they afford to take that risk? Free agent RD that can play in your top pairing are rare and when they do become available, they are very expensive. To get in on the ground floor of such a player is ideal, especially for a team in a rebuild. So for me, if the Hawks can move up in the draft PRIOR to its beginning to just outside the top ten picks, then they should definitely take Demidov. If they can't move up, they're taking an awfully big risk by passing on Levshunov.
Very good analysis and I think you’re spot-on. I’m hoping that the trade up from #20 to #18 was just the start of it, and that Davidson tries to package 18 and a second-rounder to move up again. I’m not sure what the values are exactly, but I imagine sending 18 and 34 would at least be worth moving up to the 13-14 ish range. 18 and 50 would probably get him up no higher than 15. Heck, I would not be mad if he sent 18 and Toronto’s first-rounder next year to get into the top 10. At this point, the Hawks need better prospects a lot more than they need more prospects.
@@alexandervonkeudell3474 Well said. The Hawks need better prospects more than they need more prospects. They have a lot of 3rd line ceiling forwards prospects like Gavin Hayes, Nick Lardis, Paul Ludwinski, Martin Misiak, Landon Slaggert, Colton Dach, Sam Savoie, etc. These are good prospects. None of them have disappointed in their development, but on a championship caliber team, they are not top 6 forwards. That designation I would reserve for Frank Nazar, Oliver Moore and possibly Roman Kantserov. And they are no lock to reach their top 6 ceiling. So I'm fine taking Demidov at #2. But they also only have one decent prospect at RD (Sam Rinzel). And this draft class is stacked with them. If they can trade up into the 12th or 13th spot, i think they can get a really good RD. If they can't, it's not the end of the world. They can go the volume route. Worthy RD prospects should be available at #34 and #50. RDs Dominik Badinka, EJ Emery, Harrison Brunicke, and others should be available in the 2nd and 3rd rounds (in which the Hawks have two picks each).
I think a more interesting question is which players should Chicago fans be happy about Chicago taking. If Chicago takes Demidov or Levshunov, their fans should be happy either way. Can we add anyone else to that list?
Demidov has my vote as long as he is a long term investment (ie he gets Hawks into Playoffs next season and eventually a Stanley Cup) along the lines of an Ovechkin or Kutcherov, and NOT another Alex Semin, lol.
Yeah, ask Tampa fans about players size when they had Kucherov-Point connection in two successful cup runs... And Bedard is going to be on another level than Point while Demidov is going to be close enough to Kucherov.
I dont think you can build a squad with these small payers as skilled as they are you see when they get to the playoffs how they are shut down and the smaller more skilled teams are out first
I have got to say Chicago is looking like it is having a bright future with Bedard and now another top 3 pick. Let's see how they turn out. As an Oilers fan I am just glad my team made the conference finals so that first rounder we gave up goes to the bottom four lol.
The Ducks have drafted very well in recent years so no guarantee that a late first round pick is a fourth line player if the scouts know what they are doing. Also, the Ducks are flat out stacked with elite level prospects to the point management stated one of their primary focuses would be to build quality third and fourth lines....So, either way it should be a player that is useful to the team.
As a Ducks fan I hope Hawks grab Demidov so Ducks can happily grab Levshunov. Good sized right handed balanced D man bout last piece our future D core needs. If Levshunov gone at 2 I feel Ducks may go w Anton Silayev who looks real raw still but huge physical potential. I don;t see Ducks grabbin Demidov if he's available w Cutter on his way in not much room in top 6 forward group.
Chicago will build up and get top picks again and win the cup in a few years… Rinse and repeat. Thanks Bettman!!! Canadians teams haven’t cracked the cup finals since when and always struggle.
I'm going to be very disappointed if the Blackhawks take a defenseman with the #2 pick..... Their need is clearly at forward. Bedard needs help desperately and the Hawks will not get it on the free agent market, they tend to pick up has beens and trade for over the hill washed up players.
Most of the Blackhawk pundits and fans I've seen want Demidov. I'm in the minority but I'd like Cayden Lidstrom. I'm also the first to say I'm no scout. I'd feel a lot better about Demidov if he actually got to play in the KHL and played well there.
@@chrismdb5686 Well, the Ducks are getting there I suppose. Still some missing pieces of the puzzle. Dostal doing well at worlds helps too, but all the kids need more experience. On the flip side, as a Ducks fan it will be fun watching Celebrini and Smith solidify the future top two lines for the Sharks...until they start getting better and competing for the cup that is. When that happens, it's back to being enemies! ;)
Think as long as Demidov shows reassurance that he’s willing to play in the NHL as early as next year I think Davidson takes him. If not, it’s probably Levshunov.
Remind me again the last time the Hawks picked a Russian early in the draft.....oh yeah, never. I could be wrong, Davidson is the most unpredictable G.M. in the league, so stay tuned.
"Ivan Demidov, owner of the Dimsdale Demidov!"
“Not right!”
👏👏👏👏
A Maxi-Mini-Mov!
Well done sir
@@LSA30 lol you reminded me of "Doug Dimmadome, Owner of the Dimmsdale Dimmadome but he can't get his name right". If you haven't seen it, watch it and thank me later
He has those Patrick Kane type hands too. I think CHI would be very happy for more of that.
Had to rewatch after the habs picked him up. Very Excited!!! 🔥
Hawks fan here. Been watching a whooole lot of arm chair q-b’ing on this (of course, that’s what we do this time of year as fans) but peeps really are overthinking things. Hawks need everything everywhere. Goal, D, Offense - you name it we need it. So I believe the pick is best available - and that’s Demidov.
Exactly, you take the best player available and if you have a log jam at that position you can trade one of them for whatever position you need. It’s very rare that reaching in drafts for your exact need works as intended.
Its not just BPA... its who has the highest offensive ceiling. You dont pair a talent like Bedard with a bunch of middling but high floor talents... You pair him with a future star.
Well, well well, the guy calling people reddit warriors for reporting the news that KD wanted Demidov AND Levshunov, wanted Demidov, and is now talking crap to other people who tell him this news💀
"Just another Hawks reddit warrior that worked themselves into a lather over Demidov and apparently have stronger scouting skills than the entire
Hawks staff. Oh, and who don't consider that Demidov's lack of competition vs. men is too much a concern to take a chance on at #2 when you have arty there."
LMAO
He couldve easily been playing in the KHL this year but it sounds like the teams been punishing him for not signing a contract extension. Hes looking to get out of Russia asap which is good news for teams looking to draft him
it's bad for him. When he tries to leave he'll get conscripted.
@@tripsaplenty1227 Look less propaganda, bro, how many Russians have left. Has something happened to them?
@@yuggi23
If it happened to one(Fedotov) it can happen to all
Demidov all the way from this Hawks fan. The notion that having to wait a year for him to come over is kind of silly considering all draft picks except very few require at least 1 year after they're drafted before they're ready to play in the NHL. As for Hawks drafting Russian players - the Hawks drafted Roman Kantserov early in the 2nd round last year (#44) and he in under contract until after the 2025/26 season - so it isn't a problem.
And in an interview with Kanserov he was asked about Demidov and had nothing but positive things to say about him
I feel that if the Hawks don't go with Demidov, but they still want to go with a forward, it's going to be Lindstrom. Then there's the question of "Do they consider a D-Man?", that's entering Davidson's sphere of thought then Levshunov is the likely pick.
Regardless though of if they go with a North American draftee, or with Demidov, their first year is likely going to be with Rockford, it's not going to be right to the Blackhawks like it was with Bedard.
Also, my concern with drafting Russian players is how many will be called back for "mandatory service", like with Fedotov and what they tried to do with Panarin, this may be a nothing burger with cheese (always with cheese), but it's always in the back of my head.
I don't believe he does. I bet the Hawks are looking at either Levshunov or they may do something like TRADE DOWN a few spots and grab the best two defensemen...Parekh or Buium.
@GiovannisKitchen he has said he's coming over when his current contract is up after next season and he knows it may mean another year in the MHL for punishment from SKA for not signing an extension.
*it isn't a problem.... yet.
Great video! More Blackhawks content please! I think there’s a 70% chance Demidov is their guy. He will be the best talent available and GMKD will go that route I believe
I think with the trade with the Islanders the hawks are trying to get in position to trade up again to get a defenseman
@@robertholbrook5873I agree. Whether that’s Parekh or Yakemchuk or someone else, we’ll see
I'm hoping for Demidov. The Hawks are thin on high-end forwards. Lots of good D men in the system already.
I’m a Hawks fan and I’m all in on them drafting Demidov! He looks so dynamic and creative. I think they can find defensemen value with the 18th pick, hopefully Adam Jiricek will still be there!!
I agree. Maybe they try to trade up for someone like Carter Yakemchuk? I wouldn’t be surprised if they trade up again
Thanks for PASSING on DEMIDOV ...!! MONTREAL will benefit greatly from this amazing draft pick ..!! He is being touted as the next KUCHEROV !! GO HABS ..!!😂
@@randylavoy6196 we cant be mean we shoukd thank them nicely
Recent emphasis on the measure of a prospects desire and work ethic should be called the Yakapov Scale.
Demidov is the best prospect since McDavid, and the Habs got him.
I hope Chicago drafts Demidov.
I think it has to be Demidov. A lot of our (Blackhawks) forward prospects don't really project as top-line forwards right now. Nazar and Moore seem like the pair for the second line. Too early to tell on guys like Lardis, Misiak, Kantserov, Hayes, and Greene. Another forward at 1.18 might even be the move, honestly.
Issue is the Hawks have no sure fire defensive propspects
Are you for real?
Lol we value our defense differently lol
@@nicolastomas8436 I think they have a lot of guys but no true standout. I don't think Levshunov is that guy though.
Demidov outperformed Kucherov in the MHL. Demidov will be fine.
Russian scouts are saying he is 6ft+ and 190lbs.
Hawks are taking him.
uhhh no, lol
Reading over these comments you’d think San Jose would be crazy to pass up Demidov.
“Well we all know Celebrini will go first, whatever, but have you seen this Demidov kid, he’ll be the next blah blah etc.”
celebrini is just more proven and complete. I would argue demidov has the higher ceiling
@@jamiebate7044exactly, he will never be as good as mackinnon. They’ll probably end up having the same value with Demidov possibly being better
Demidov isn’t as good as Celebrini defensively. Celebrini is better all around and definitely more pro ready at the moment. But Demidov has the potential to put up 90-100 point seasons when he gets into his prime, and he’s certainly not a bum on defense. He’s probably around average on defense. He reminds me of Patrick Kane a lot at this age
The feeling is Levshunov, but Demidov is who I’m hoping for.
If ppg forwards are a dime a dozen then why do the Blackhawks have only one on the team currently? They just came off of their worst offensive season in team history. Not all of their forward prospects are going to pan out. Their first two picks should be skilled forwards like Demidov and Senneke for example.
@@dparis2172because theyre tanking...
That's what I think really makes this draft one to watch is because we ALL know Macklin Celebrini is expected to be the 1st overall pick, But after that, Things could get interesting because we could some players go earlier than expected and we could some players go later than expected.
@@SakicFan bingo !
Cayden Lidstrom would give a Chicago a potent 1-2 punch down the middle.
Demidov will be the pick for the Hawks if they are going best player, I also heard he is at least six foot now.
Levshunov will likely be a really good player but i think if they pass on Demidov they will have big regretzkies.
Demidov sounds like some sort monster from stranger things but I’m all for it
Should have drafted Demidov at two, thanks Chicago.
He will be a tremendous asset for the team who drafted him.
Great vid…thank you! I don’t think the Hawks can pass up on Demi! Bedard + Demidov = 👍👍👍
This Demidov kid is one of the most exciting players you'll ever watch. The way he skates and plays the game is so unorthodox yet beautiful. As a Blackhawks fan this is my pick, I'll be disappointed if we pass up on him
@@agentshadow7456 Levshunov isnt even projected to be the best defenseman in this draft.
@@agentshadow7456. We have good forward prospects but not another superstar and we have a lot of good defensive prospects we need one more star forward
@@agentshadow7456 good gm’s draft the best player, not by their needs
@@agentshadow7456 You're allowed your own opinion, nobody says that you're not. Your opinions can also be challenged. People get what you're saying and they disagree. You don't have to get a defenceman this early if they're not that good and another top quality forward isn't something to be sniffed at.
@@Stephens_Rocket Not at all. Demidov is gonna add offence as he is likely gonna be picked. So I will delete my past comments of that after seeing all the points made. I still think they are better off adding something that they do need rather than something that overflows their forwards even more with skill and future stars. But I do understand why people would want Demidov as having any other team get him puts the rest in danger of a star and potential superstar.
Chicago need to get Levshunov, proper RD's are hard to come by
Im rooting for Levshunov for the hawks (totally biased MSU alum and it would be awesome to watch him move to my nhl team) but the more i hear about demidov i have to admit he looks solid too, at this point i think id be sad if we didnt get levshunov but demidov would be a good consolation prize
I would say so, although Levshunov is intriguing.
Demidov is 6' 05" and 190lbs which I'd fantastic! I'm hoping we get him at #2! He's so dynamic with the puck
if only
Bob Mckenzies Lottery ranking had him at 2
Yeah, he was 6th in the mid of the season, he's 2nd now.
Demidov...book it
As a Habs fan I hope they don't but it's wishful thinking I suppose.
Edit: My wish came true.
The reason why I think Demidov is THE fit for Hawks is because of his hockey sense/skill. His gamestyle matches that of Bedard where he forces the defensive structure to make a play on him if they don't he'll eat you alive... and when they commit, he'll burn you by getting puck to open man or out skill the opponent... he's a player that breaks down defense... absolutely lethal if combined with Bedard...
ivan "bpa" demidov aka "the dagger" should be the pick at #2 for the hawks (fingers crossed). rinzel's numbers at minnesota this past year are close to the numbers put up by lev. plus, kaiser, edm (who played some right side in rockford), and allan are otw as well. bedard needs reinforcements, he needs a comrade.
You never know when they get to the NHL--Celebrini may not live up to his billing, Demidov may be a better pick.
Highly unlikely given Celebrini's dominance in the NCAA against older and more physically mature players.
THG you said @ 0:46 "Odds are . . . . " after posting a vid about The Ongoing Sports Gambling Advertising Issue . . . I am giving you a hard time
Seems to me that hockey positions, at least for forwards, has become you either can take face-offs or your 3rd option. With the forwards interchanging of both offense and defense. That is the only thing I really see that is strictly positional now.
YES
Is Levshunov a better choice?
Not really.
@@dparis2172 ok thx.
If RD prospects are as hard to come by as a lot of analysts say then I think the obvious choice is Lev. If he falls to the ducks I am jumping for joy! Ducks are in the best position in my opinion. Either way they get their RD of the future or a winger with upside to score 100 points someday. (I think that’s a bit high but it’s what a lot of people are saying about Demi).
Bedard will make an already dynamic Demidov even better! And vice versa!
I think drafting Demidov would be the right move, the hawks need to draft a foward to help Bedard
I'll be putting money on Levshunov at 2.
all the beat writers are saying they're most likely drafting levshunov, but i'd be happy with either levshunov or demidov
beat writers are idiots
I think it's Demidov @ 2 then Kyle from Chicago trades back into the top 10, especially after trading picks with the Islanders a few days ago. Hawks have plenty of picks, time to use them, I would send an offer to Utah to try to get to 6
Hey THG! Bob's most recent ranking actually has him at #2. Sportsnet Cosentino says he's more talented than Levshunov (the #2) but has him ranked at #3 because of Russia! Hockey Prospecting's List hasn't been updated since Jan but Dobber/Recruit/Smaht/ISS/Daily Faceoff/etc. All have him at #2. I think the rankings you chose may have been misleading because they're either out of date, writers not scouts, or are ones that focus on country of origin, not skill. It's almost universal that Demidov is #2 based on skill in the most recent rankings.
Ik you mentioned that you don't have the most updated rankings but just in the future it may be more helpful to use the most up to date scouting reportings, not old reports by writers.
I'm really hoping they pick Demidov. If they take Lev i wont be mad but man the combo of Dem and Bedard would be lightning in a bottle.
If he makes it to 5th I’d lose my mind. If not then hopefully Caiden is there.
The NHL should be shaking from the thought of the Blackhawks pairing this kid up with Bedard
Depends on the teams.
I have a feeling if Hawks go Demidov, the ducks will go Levshunov. If Hawks take Levshunov, I feel like the Ducks will take Lindstrom or Silayev
Scott powers is reporting he’s now at 184 centimeters
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One thing folks are not taking onto account IMO os that Davidson REALLY likes good skaters. Nazar, moore, even Bedard. Even Vlassic is good for his size
And as other have said, its harder to get top emd RHD than forwards.
For that reason i really think they go with levshunov at #2 and a wonger at ,#18 (or higher ofnthey trade up).
If the Hawks decide to solidify their D-core with Levshunov I wonder if the Ducks take Demidov even though he isn't the big skilled two way forward Verbeek prefers.
My thoughts exactly. I’m a ducks fan who’s so excited for lev but if somehow the hawks pass on demi I just don’t know how the ducks skipping this sort of potential offensive talent makes sense. Lindstrom is a GMPV type of player and of course there are a few D men who definitely look the current managements style of player….but the hype for demi is real. I try not to fall for anyone anymore and just wait and see. I could’ve sworn the ducks were taking fantilli last year. Now we’ve got Leo and I couldn’t be happier!
I see Demidov and either Yakemchuk or Iginla.
according to many users on capfriendly, the blackhawks are very high on dickinson. but i'm a jets fan and i think the hawks should draft demidov
analysis on demidov: speedy skater, good 200-ft player, can shoot from anywhere, smart. defensively he needs to work on his decision making. does have kucherov upside, but in terms of style, i would compare his game to ehlers
Been thinking all the time that he's the Brayden Point to Michkov's Nikita Kucherov
@@xlr0gd205 berkly catton is more brayden point if anything
I think so. After the Hawks moved up to #18 by making that trade with the Islanders, Chicago can now probably draft Adam Jiricek at #18, giving them the right side defenseman they passed on by not taking Levshunov at #2. Anaheim would probably take Levshunov at #3, giving them back the blue liner they gave up when they traded Jamie Drysdale for Cutter Gauthier. Columbus at #4 then most likely takes Cayden Lindstrom.
What year does everyone expect the Hawks to make the playoffs? 25-26?
According to every Montreal fan he's dropping to the 5th pick lol!!!
No he's not, theres like a 9% chance he's available. So way to get attention! 👌🏻
Huh? Not sure what fans you're referring to because the talk is all about Lindstrom and Iginla.
They blew it by not taking Michkov last year and are hoping to make up for it this year. Slim chance Demidov falls that far. At best they get Lindstrom...which isn't too bad when it comes down to it.
Who's laughing now?
@@RandomPlaceHolderName please you just got lucky that the idiot ducks gm took a 2nd rounder at #3
Demidov would be my choice. I think the Hawks will be fine defensively with the prospects they have.
I think the Hawks need defense more than anything else. However, the Hawks aren’t above hiring players that sell tickets, so that’s my take on the Hawk’s priorities.
They have two first round picks trade up again to get a defenseman and take Demidov at 2
They are coming off the worst offensive season in franchise history. They absolutely need offense more than anything else. Demidov at 2 and another fwd at 18.
The Blackhawks are in an ideal and very interesting position in this year's draft. They have picks #2 and #18 (after trading up with NYI earlier this week), and rumor has it that the Hawks would like to trade up even higher. More on that later.
This year's draft is filled with very good RD prospects which are typically coveted because they are hard to find. Next year's draft isn't expected to be heavy with RD. Does this mean the Hawks go with the best RD, Artyom Levshunov, at #2 and take a forward at #18 knowing that they have 2 more 1st rounders coming in the 2025 draft? Maybe, but the opportunity presented by great depth at a given position is that you can maximize your pick's value by taking one later in the 1st round and using the 2nd overall pick on the best player available (in this case Demidov), thus maximizing the value of BOTH picks. There are 4 RD expected to be selected in the top 17 picks with 2 more projected to still go later in the 1st round after the Hawks 2nd pick at #18. If the Hawks are able to trade up into the top 12 picks, they would ensure themselves of getting 1 of those top 4 RD, and that would enable the Hawks (and make it much more likely) to maximize the value of their 2 first rounders by taking Demidov at #2 and the best available RD (likely Yakemchuk) with their 2nd first rounder.
While Chicago does have RD Seth Jones under contract thru 2029-30 and RD prospect 2022 1st rounder Sam Rinzel in the pipeline, veteran RD Connor Murphy is only signed for 2 more years, and only has one year in which he's played 80 games in his last six seasons. All of his other seasons he's played less than 60 games. Plus, outside of Rinzel, there are no noteworthy RD prospects in the system. It is clear that the Hawks need some high-ceiling talent at the RD position.
That said, and as previously discussed, the Hawks don't have to use the 2nd overall pick on a RD. They also have the 18th, 34th and 50th picks this season in a draft that his unusually deep in RD prospects. BUT, there is something to be said for taking the BEST RD prospect. It is unlikely that the Hawks will be picking this high in the draft for a long time. It is also unlikely that another draft will be so heavy in RD prospects for a long time. The Hawks take a big risk by trying to get too cute and thread the needle here. You've got Levshunov staring you right in the face at #2. You know you won't be able to get this good of a RD prospect on a rookie contract for a very, very long time. And you know that your organization could really use an excellent RD in the near future. If the Hawks are unable to move up from #18 to around #12 or #13, they risk missing out on getting one of a very talented group of RD prospects. Can they afford to take that risk? Free agent RD that can play in your top pairing are rare and when they do become available, they are very expensive. To get in on the ground floor of such a player is ideal, especially for a team in a rebuild.
So for me, if the Hawks can move up in the draft PRIOR to its beginning to just outside the top ten picks, then they should definitely take Demidov. If they can't move up, they're taking an awfully big risk by passing on Levshunov.
Very good analysis and I think you’re spot-on. I’m hoping that the trade up from #20 to #18 was just the start of it, and that Davidson tries to package 18 and a second-rounder to move up again.
I’m not sure what the values are exactly, but I imagine sending 18 and 34 would at least be worth moving up to the 13-14 ish range. 18 and 50 would probably get him up no higher than 15. Heck, I would not be mad if he sent 18 and Toronto’s first-rounder next year to get into the top 10. At this point, the Hawks need better prospects a lot more than they need more prospects.
@@alexandervonkeudell3474 Well said. The Hawks need better prospects more than they need more prospects.
They have a lot of 3rd line ceiling forwards prospects like Gavin Hayes, Nick Lardis, Paul Ludwinski, Martin Misiak, Landon Slaggert, Colton Dach, Sam Savoie, etc. These are good prospects. None of them have disappointed in their development, but on a championship caliber team, they are not top 6 forwards. That designation I would reserve for Frank Nazar, Oliver Moore and possibly Roman Kantserov. And they are no lock to reach their top 6 ceiling. So I'm fine taking Demidov at #2.
But they also only have one decent prospect at RD (Sam Rinzel). And this draft class is stacked with them. If they can trade up into the 12th or 13th spot, i think they can get a really good RD. If they can't, it's not the end of the world. They can go the volume route. Worthy RD prospects should be available at #34 and #50. RDs Dominik Badinka, EJ Emery, Harrison Brunicke, and others should be available in the 2nd and 3rd rounds (in which the Hawks have two picks each).
I think a more interesting question is which players should Chicago fans be happy about Chicago taking. If Chicago takes Demidov or Levshunov, their fans should be happy either way. Can we add anyone else to that list?
Hawks need puck possession.
Demidov has my vote as long as he is a long term investment (ie he gets Hawks into Playoffs next season and eventually a Stanley Cup) along the lines of an Ovechkin or Kutcherov, and NOT another Alex Semin, lol.
If the hawks go into the playoff next year they won't have enough pieces to win a cup
@@Alexyoesare you guys high,make the playoffs,give me some of that brew,I am out of SamAdams!Playoffs,along way off!
Playoffs,the Blackhawks would need a 40 point improvement over last year Einstein .😁
i say yes he does .
Bedard Demidov = or > Toews Kane in 10 years?
Looks scary on paper that is for sure. Not a fan of this as Stars fan but here we are lol
Hawks look pretty small if they pick Demidov
Yeah, ask Tampa fans about players size when they had Kucherov-Point connection in two successful cup runs... And Bedard is going to be on another level than Point while Demidov is going to be close enough to Kucherov.
It’s really between Demidov and Levshunov for the hawks
I think they will draft Cayden Lindstrom.
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I think the Hawks grab him.
If anything he’s more Kaprizov rather than Kucherov
Hawks will take him. The perfect winger for Bedard.
I dont think you can build a squad with these small payers as skilled as they are you see when they get to the playoffs how they are shut down and the smaller more skilled teams are out first
I have got to say Chicago is looking like it is having a bright future with Bedard and now another top 3 pick. Let's see how they turn out.
As an Oilers fan I am just glad my team made the conference finals so that first rounder we gave up goes to the bottom four lol.
The Ducks have drafted very well in recent years so no guarantee that a late first round pick is a fourth line player if the scouts know what they are doing. Also, the Ducks are flat out stacked with elite level prospects to the point management stated one of their primary focuses would be to build quality third and fourth lines....So, either way it should be a player that is useful to the team.
Yeahhhhh ducks have done pretty well picking late though. I would love them to trade that 1st round pick for a RW or RD.
Ivan Demidov, I think
As a Ducks fan I hope Hawks grab Demidov so Ducks can happily grab Levshunov. Good sized right handed balanced D man bout last piece our future D core needs. If Levshunov gone at 2 I feel Ducks may go w Anton Silayev who looks real raw still but huge physical potential. I don;t see Ducks grabbin Demidov if he's available w Cutter on his way in not much room in top 6 forward group.
If Russia wasn't so locked down he would be the number 1 pick. Hawks getting number 2 will end up being blessing because they get the best player.
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Malkin and Ovechkin proved lazy can wprk in the NHL
Respectfully these players were drafted twenty years ago
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yeah, doesn't feel like it's been 20 years.
And thats the last time a russian was drafted directly from the KHL in the top 3 @@jamesschubbe8938
I want the defensemen.............Artyom Levshunov
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Chicago will build up and get top picks again and win the cup in a few years… Rinse and repeat. Thanks Bettman!!! Canadians teams haven’t cracked the cup finals since when and always struggle.
Not bettman's fault you give like 3-4 lottery picks to Oilers and barely won.
he better
Demidov for Michkov trade
I'm going to be very disappointed if the Blackhawks take a defenseman with the #2 pick..... Their need is clearly at forward. Bedard needs help desperately and the Hawks will not get it on the free agent market, they tend to pick up has beens and trade for over the hill washed up players.
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Nope
Iginla is and will be the best player after Celebrini. Levshunov is over rated.
Lindstrom do the Blackhawks makes sense
Most of the Blackhawk pundits and fans I've seen want Demidov. I'm in the minority but I'd like Cayden Lidstrom. I'm also the first to say I'm no scout. I'd feel a lot better about Demidov if he actually got to play in the KHL and played well there.
chicago could use a top RDman though, we are skinny in that department
Most teams are thin when it comes to elite or high end level RD's.
NHL gave the Sharks the #1 to distract us from the fact Chicago won the #2, can't believe it worked.
They were clearly the two worst teams this season by a very wide margin.
@@chrismdb5686 Hey, now. The Ducks were pretty awful too y'know.
Chicago did not win the 2 pick. They literally stayed where they were.
@@AnaheimRob As a Sharks fan I can confidently say the Ducks are a tier above our miserable team and the Chicago Bedards
@@chrismdb5686 Well, the Ducks are getting there I suppose. Still some missing pieces of the puzzle. Dostal doing well at worlds helps too, but all the kids need more experience. On the flip side, as a Ducks fan it will be fun watching Celebrini and Smith solidify the future top two lines for the Sharks...until they start getting better and competing for the cup that is. When that happens, it's back to being enemies! ;)
Think as long as Demidov shows reassurance that he’s willing to play in the NHL as early as next year I think Davidson takes him. If not, it’s probably Levshunov.
That'd be one soft and small top 6 holy smokes they'd get killed in the playoffs
Remind me again the last time the Hawks picked a Russian early in the draft.....oh yeah, never.
I could be wrong, Davidson is the most unpredictable G.M. in the league, so stay tuned.
I mean, I wouldn’t really consider 12th pick in the 2nd round (44th overall) last year with Roman Kantserov to be a late pick 😅 but perspectives vary
I remember the days of yakupov and vorobiev. Babchuck.
Been awhile been hawks have wasted high picks on russians
Krivokrasov was another top 10 pick if I remember correctly
I wouldn't pick a Russian in the first two rounds. You just never know if they'll be a no show
If you watched even 35 seconds, you would’ve heard he’s under contract for only 1 year in the KHL.
@@MitchyM115 Ask the Flyers about Fedotovs KHL contract
In this man's world, he'd have Malkin and Ovechkin dropping to the 3rd round of the draft
@@Mike1__ That was then. this is now
It’s a non-issue
Or does he get sent to Arctic Siberia or Front Lines in Ukraine?
I wouldn’t take the chance of picking second and getting NOTHING. With the politics you never know when he won’t be allowed to leave.
When has a top Russian prospect ever not come over to the nhl
@@kevinbrisolara4848What do past drafts have to do with this year’s draft?