"Overpaying" seems rich when you look at the absolute value of the contract, gotta find room for a game changer. Jones' contract was a disaster before the ink dried.
Everything fell apart after Coughlin. I was no major fan of his but the Giants won under him. Mara is to the Giants what Jerry Jones is to Cowboys. I hate to say it but this franchise is going nowhere anytime soon....
It's even worse than that. They have been lying to fans about that mistake for six years, and have refused to bench him because then everyone would have seen what the problem was all the time, which would have made everyone from Mara and Schoen to the coaches look like clowns. So he has to start every single game while we endlessly use compromised hacks like Phil Simms to scapegoat the offensive line, receivers, backs and coaches. It's the same thing Dallas are doing with Dak Prescott, except the Giants can't even bully bad teams to create the illusion of being good like Dallas have been able to until recently. This isn't a hot seat. It's a delayed release black hole that will suck everyone in when it finally implodes, including the meddling, doofus owner. At least it should.
true they do "seem" lost, but when you look at the reality, and understand that Mara not the GM and his staff are making the decisions, you can start to empathize with them. No one wants to be the face of the organization. Not making real decisions, just standing on the podium to take the hits.
The problem with the NYG is lack of leadership from ownership to GM to coaches. Right or wrong they then traded away their clubhouse leader. That’s why players are now giving up on the field for everyone to see
Nah players are giving up cause the Offense aint holding up there end because Daboll is too excited to play with his shiny toy in Malik Nabors. How do you not ram it down the throat of the worst ranked run Ds this year? Thats the Bengals and Cowboys game right there. Two EASY dubs they badly need.
I’m glad they let Barkley go….giants signed 3 starters on the o line instead and you don’t overpay a RB. Eagles beat a bad team, but the league is full of them. Barkley won’t win a SB with Philly either.
@@austinking9912I get what you’re saying but 15 mil is way too much for him. Tracy has played pretty well for a rookie, and he’s not making that much. Keep improving the OL, or try, and any decent RB will be able to run….to me it’s all about the OL
Even the experts get it wrong, on all levels, the couch experts like you, draft experts, coaches, owners GM. Everyone gets it wrong. Idk why you people type comments like this. I’m sure you were wrong many times on players or teams lol.
@@Blazejones31I like Colin but he doesn’t know more about the NYG than I do. Been a NYG fan since 1963. And it wasn’t difficult to see the NYG was a sub 500 team. Vegas who Colin calls “ the sharps” had them at 6.5 which is bottom 5 in NFL. I ‘m sure Colin being in the media understands he is subject to criticism
Joe Schoen lifting up his phone and pretending to look and then putting it down to act like he was getting Saquon updates in front of the owner of a multi billion dollar franchise is embarrassing
@TimothyReady-df8zu On hard knocks when mara asked him about updates on Saquon's suitors. He informed him that he wouldn't be able to sleep at night if Saquon went to philly... Joe looked down at his phone and said Chicago is in the lead and philly is out of the race lol and smh
@@chazg8489how would you know? He said that was the latest he heard and said it might not be true On what basis can you confidently claim to know he lied
Stop blaming the O line. On 6 of the 7 sacks, Jones held the ball for 4 seconds. You can't do that today. Plant that foot at 2.5 seconds, if not out by 3 seconds throw it away (old school at the feet of a WR).
Literally the only qb that even sniffs the numbers your asking for the ball to get out by are tua , nobody else in the league can make the throws he can from pre to post snap and throw with the level on anticipation it takes to release the ball 2 seconds after it’s snapped . The problem Is 100% your own line , guy when he’s protected he’s above average , your oline is awful and you literally have one wide out that can catch the ball that’s it’s
@@vinceventura4453 The o line is not horrible.... Against the eagles yes... The majority of Sacks on Jones are labeled on him and not the o line and Jones is never ever above average maybe only once ever
They should have asked DJ to re work his contract and keep Barkeley. Nabors and Saquon command double teams. Which would have meant either single coverage for Darius and Wandale R. As a result of the coverage that would have taken pressure off of the o line and DJ . This is bad on Joe S. And Daboll. Any person with rudimentary knowledge of football would see this.
Both of them and even Nabors have dropped key passes. Nah the biggest problem is Daboll insisting on trying to force a round peg in a square hole with Ezeudu and failing to account for the Kicker. They could very easily be 4-2 right now
@HorFell Keep Jones and Singletary, Get rid of Nabers, Andrew Thomas and Dexter Lawrence, and bring back Dave Gettleman and Pat Shurmur. Letting Barkley go was a good move.
They could’ve put Jones on the franchise tag and kept Barkley. To put it in perspective Saquon wanted 3yrs $40M. They said that was too much but gave Jones $40M per year. That was insulting.
Tim Mara thought Daniel Jones was the next Eli Manning and forced him on Schoen and Dabol. The day Mara sells the team is the day the Giants start getting better. Fifteen years without a decent offensive line, are you kidding??
The front office and the HC have been just as miserable as the QB. Why does anyone like Daboll. His career as an offensive coordinator was miserable until Josh Allen. Actually, his offenses tanked near the bottom until Allen.
The OL since the beginning of the 2019 season has given up a league leading 267 sacks probably 300 by end of season average 60 sacks a year. Will it ever be fixed
Nope, you're just slow. You agree with a painfully obvious take in year 6 that Daniel Jones is terrible. I'll alert the media. Brilliant comment, guy. You're doing great.
@@philliptimmons2135 Colin tries to make his takes seem intellectual when they are just garbage takes. Colin is what we in the business call a glazer and a meat rider
Hell Collin , I’m sure Marcus Mariota would like another shot as a starter . Do you think that would be a good fit and they could draft a qb and let him sit for a bit ??
Thats irrelevant because Giants pass defense ranks 5th while GB is 16th, rookie Slot CB Dru Phillips is a top 5 highest graded CB at 83.3, rookie S Tyler Nubin has a above average grade of 71
For how long are we going to say it’s the O line look at the commanders,falcons,Vikings all have holes in there lineup if ur a great team with decent players u find a way to win
I couldn’t understand why they even gave Daniel jones another contract, it was beyond me why!? I just knew they would’ve went QB in the draft! Smdh. Hurts haven’t been the same since the 49ers exposed the eagles last yr
The ultimate problem with the giants is that we need a qb, but Daboll is a great coach and will always find a way to win enough games that we won’t have a high enough pick to get a qb. Only option seems to be to trade up.
That's what I'm saying. The blasphemy spewing from their mouths. Especially, how Cowherd has had awful takes on QBs in the past. Ward is a baller and in my opinion better than Sanders
To be clear, Jalen being bad on third down does not mean the same thing as other quarterbacks. He has two downs to get the ball close to the sticks before taking a deep shot. If the shot doesn't connect, they go for it on fourth down. You kinda have to combine third and fourth down conversions.
Without a shake up of some kind the Giants are definitely in the bottom of the NFC East for possibly this and next year. That stadium is just not a fun place to play for anyone except a visiting team
I agree that The Giants GM is pretty bad. I mean of course he is, he got hired SOLEY off of what Brandon Beene did, instead of his own merit. But to says Dabol has done a good job is a really bad take. No offensive guy that’s a good coach should ever be only scoring 3 points, against a defense that can’t rush the passer. It doesn’t matter who your QB is. And it’s not like it’s the 1st time. Dabol has way too many games were he completely fails at what the media says he’s good at, the offense. Dabol got pretty lucky one year and barely made the playoffs… even though they got outscored that year. And maybe Dabol will make a good head coach someday, buts he pretty bad right now.
The Giants should draft Sheduer Sanders! The In the current NFC East the Giants need to make a big splash to compete. Since they have a number 1 receiver and a good Oline/Dline, him being on a rookie contract would be a perfect transition.
Giants fan, love Saquon but letting him go was the right move. I was happy to see him do well against us, helped us earn another loss which, frankly, is what we need. We're bad now and were bad when 26 played for us. He was a luxury we could not afford.
I would draft another peice and wait to 2026 and be in the manning lottery because we should of waited in '19 but picked jones when if just waited a year and played ELi one more year we would have had Herbert
Mara is lying and being fake. He had two years to negotiate a contract with saquon. The fact that Mara (and co) was relying on the market not being friendly for running backs was indicative of how they felt about bringing back your best player.
Not a Giants fan and paying D Jones was mistake and not trading Barkley last year was mistake but not signing him was correct move. You dont pay RBs unless you title contender
Redskins fan here. Giants are screwed up for now, but Giants front office is smart enough to handle this. Going to take a year or two but y'all will be OK.
In the interest of fairness - The Giants have a solid roster when it comes to solid offensive line, wide receivers, 2 legit young tight ends and strong defense. All they need is a quarterback. That's the only real weak link in the chain. There is talk about the possibilities of the Giants being a strong candidate to trade a 2nd or 3rd round pick for Mathew Stafford. He may be 36, But he still has a couple of good years left in him. The Giants could get him and with luck - Get Arch Manning in the 2026 Draft.
Idk who in their right mind could justify paying Daniel jones and some of these other qbs to be honest. When he first signed the deal and they let go of saquan like wtf are we doing. Should have paid Saquan tagged Daniel or just let his trash ass walk. Just terrible - poor business decisions back to back
DJ has to go. Absolutely tired of everyone defending. "But the o-line." "But the receivers." He has arguably the best receiver in the league and is being coached by a highly talented offensive coordinator turned head coach. A subpar o-line isn't enough to excuse the poor play. Dropback and throw it
Jones isn’t even good when he has everything right. We won less than half the games he had everything in. He’s a guy who drags the talent around him down. And no one is giving you a half eaten ham sandwich for Jones forget a draft pick.
I think Daboll is not waiting for DJ to get hurt. Is to risky in fact DJ is guaranteed to get 23 mil if he get hurt. Doboll is not taking a chance so I have a gut feeling he will benched DJ.
I think that's been the plan, but Mara knows its the Giants. NYG being one of the class organizations of the league can't tank. It was a secret tank putting the O on Jones.
Long long time fan here. Love football. Played a lot. Coached. Etc.... Giants need to block better and tackle better. That alone would make us competitive. No one can throw in under a second. No discipline at all on D. No contain, no moving to fast paced on offense from shotgun. As far as roster. Plenty of talent
Sounds great, makes for good headlines. But no way Mara gets rid of him. Mara loves Jones, and now its obvious that Mara drafted Jones, not the GM. Jones was NEVER a 1st round draft choice, but the Giants pulled the trigger none the less. Loads of people were scratching their heads at the pick and look how badly its gone. Few owners have the real skill to run a team. Shame ego forces them into making decisions. Their ego should have them select the best GM and let that guy run the team. I disagree on Sanders. he is not a NFL 1st rounder. He'd be good for the 2nd or 3rd. He's throwing is actually sub-par. REC have to readjust and the throws a lot of "up for grabs" passes that the better athletes at Colorado win. Cam Ward - Miami Avery Johnson - KState Both are better passers but Johnson wont be in the draft. Ewers, might be something if given time to develop but that doesnt happen in today's game. He'll probably be the next Baker, suck for a few years then get on a team with a system he can work in, and he'll do better.
There is about 2 minutes of meaningful content on these Volume videos. You've always got to skip the intro trash, skip through the ad reads, skip the 19 ad breaks, and skip the unrelated crap when they try to sneak in golf, basketball or baseball.
Daniel Jones fooled one GM to draft him at six and another GM to give him the money bag. That is some serious talent to fool two GMs. As far as quarterback talent, not so much....
It’s very simple with the G-Men draft a QB that can change the culture look at Washington nobody can say that they have better roster that Giants but a difference maker under center can change everything it’s not rocket science Daboll and Schoen aren’t going anywhere until they get their guy next year
Colin, everybody blames the o-line, and then Dj. Then they have a decent game and look competent (relatively speaking) and most of the boo birds switch camps. Here is where I’d like to challenge this line of thinking… COULD IT BE THE PLAYCALLING? They lose AT, they know he’s the lynchpin of the oline, with him gone you will not have the time for these deep crossing routes and concepts. That’s exactly what happened vs the eagles, they got in 3 and long situations “had to” go for the deep concepts. So there’s my bitching and whining, so what’s the solution? RUN THE BALL, SCREENS, SLANT routes. How many of those got called in the game? 3 runs in the first half? Are you fking kidding? Okay so they load the box? Screens, bubble screens & slants. As far as the 2025 draft? If I’m the Giants, it’s all offense. 1st round trade down. Try grabbing another wr that can at least CATCH. Love wandale’s and slayton’s effort, A+ there, but the resulting drops? Holy hell, they ain’t it. Trade them. Trade them NOW to a team like the 49ers or chiefs. Get something, probably won’t be much but better than a bag full of dropped passes. After the first round, I’m loading up on offensive line. AT gets hurt often, and as well as the current guys have played when he was in there, they played like garbage without him. Guess what? The eagles didn’t have their starting LT and the oline (after the first few series) actually played well. Run blocking was great, their guards and centers pulled well and found the lb/s in the second level, and the tackles kicking their guys out. Pass blocking, although the first few series we sacked them, they started clicking and gave hurts enough time for those deep strikes. If I’m the GM, I’m trading Azeez (love you buddy you you’re the only one with a high enough market to garner a 3rd maybe even a 2nd round pick), I’m trading wandale and slayton, (maybe 5 or 6th rounders), I’m trading singletary, we have Tracy, and I’d like to see Miller back him up (sorry gray you’re getting cut). You take all those picks, you trade down with your first, get more picks, and hopefully have enough draft capital to get a solid wr, and a couple more linemen to challenge what’s been a dumpster fire without AT in there. BUT WHATABOUT the qb? Well I agree with you guys here. I don’t think any of them are IT. Maybe Cam Ward, Miami after all has a god awful defense and it’s really been up to him to put up godly numbers, in a non “system” school like bama, Georgia, Ohio st, Texas…
They said same things about Goff. Jones needs a new team. He might need to go play back up for a year and work his way back to a starter. He'd probably end up succeeding on another team.
They didn't bench Jones. He keeps repeating this lie. They sat their starters after the game was out of hand. That's like saying the Eagles benched Hurts and Barkley. Have some media integrity
I blame the Giants continued demise on Eli Manning and the Giants organization as a whole. Their allegiance to Eli Manning has ruined the Giants. They listened to him and drafted Jones. That pick, then not franchising Daniel Jones and alienating Saquan Barkley will set them back probably another 5yrs. Its been 5yrs since Eli retired. So 10yrs of being horrible is in the Giants future.
Can't put this on Shoen; he wasn't there when they signed Jones to a massive contract. As much as it probably hurts to have Barkley come in and run them over, it was probably the right long-term move. This team wasn't going to be truly competitive for the next couple years anyways.
This whole Giants situation. Not paying Saquon. What he wanted. How do you over pay a running back of that caliber. Considering he was the franchise back. And the best player on the damn team. You refuse to pay him 2 years in a row! He took a discount last year bet on himself. Played well enough on a bad team and you still don’t pay him! Go on hard knocks and making all these excuses for not paying Saquon. Tell Him too “TEST THE MARKET” and then you let home walk to a division rival? No way the GM and the coach has to go! There’s no market for Daniel jones. We have no good options wr back up and the defense is not gonna play amazing every game. This team is doomed man. I promise you. Doomed.
It's not all DJ. Too many Coaches and schemes over the years has not helped. I hope he goes somewhere else and has success. NYG organization has given the Fans very little to cheer about over the last maybe decade or so. Needs to be a big substantial change...
You can’t be serious. He the reason we can’t put up any points. He can’t read a defense, he has no arm, he doesn’t know how to go through his reads, he doesn’t adjust the line to pick up the blitz, he makes rookie decisions and he’s in year six. Let’s stop with the excuses for this guy. The experiment is over. He has to be benched and shipped out immediately
Daboll is not a HC, OC but not HC. Last year, the coaching staff was a train wreck and they had to pay Kafka not to leave. In 2022, Winks D and #26 helped win a few games and they played a terrible Vikings team in the playoffs. This team is consistently undisciplined, unprepared and out coached. Josh Allen made Daboll, not the other way around. 48 yr Giants fan here and I can't watch these clowns anymore.
"Overpaying" seems rich when you look at the absolute value of the contract, gotta find room for a game changer. Jones' contract was a disaster before the ink dried.
disaster when he was drafted
It’s a sad time for Giants fans…
Its been a sad time for about 12 yrs running
Has been for 12 years straight
Sad??!?
Isn't this what the franchise and the majority of fans wanted?
Made poor decisions
Get poor results
@ CynthiaGeorgette Dude, absolutely NONE of this new😆🤷🏻♂️
Nothing new captain
NY Giants fan here. NY Giants leadership has no idea how to fix this team. O Line hasn’t been even average for a solid decade.
Have you not watched any games this year?
Everything fell apart after Coughlin. I was no major fan of his but the Giants won under him.
Mara is to the Giants what Jerry Jones is to Cowboys.
I hate to say it but this franchise is going nowhere anytime soon....
So no Daniel jones criticism is he just excused of all this huh every year im sick of it.
Mara is the only consistent problem in the last decade
The line was above average this season before Andrew Thomas was injured
The front office seems to be absolutely lost. The Daniel Jones contract has put everyone on the hot seat.
Daniel Jones is legit one of the luckiest humans on this planet
It's even worse than that. They have been lying to fans about that mistake for six years, and have refused to bench him because then everyone would have seen what the problem was all the time, which would have made everyone from Mara and Schoen to the coaches look like clowns. So he has to start every single game while we endlessly use compromised hacks like Phil Simms to scapegoat the offensive line, receivers, backs and coaches. It's the same thing Dallas are doing with Dak Prescott, except the Giants can't even bully bad teams to create the illusion of being good like Dallas have been able to until recently.
This isn't a hot seat. It's a delayed release black hole that will suck everyone in when it finally implodes, including the meddling, doofus owner. At least it should.
It's gonna be hard to find a running back like Barkley
true they do "seem" lost, but when you look at the reality, and understand that Mara not the GM and his staff are making the decisions, you can start to empathize with them. No one wants to be the face of the organization. Not making real decisions, just standing on the podium to take the hits.
That’s what happens when u go 3-13 with a 37 year old QB & draft a RB at 2🤣🤣🤣 could of gotten Josh Allen & Nick Chubb
“The eagles were in the backfield every play” same person Daniel Jones should’ve done more
30-year season ticket holder. It was over the day we drafted him. New subscriber Colin 💙 "It's all about the tailgate" 💙
So why did YOU draft him?
I simply don’t understand how you pay Daniel Jones and let Saquon walk 🤷🏻♂️
It feels like sabotage
Barkley was a cancer and needed to go
@@Partsunknown426 I wasn’t aware of that, what were the issues with him?
That part
@@Partsunknown426 Seriously? Where's your information from?
The problem with the NYG is lack of leadership from ownership to GM to coaches. Right or wrong they then traded away their clubhouse leader. That’s why players are now giving up on the field for everyone to see
Nah players are giving up cause the Offense aint holding up there end because Daboll is too excited to play with his shiny toy in Malik Nabors. How do you not ram it down the throat of the worst ranked run Ds this year? Thats the Bengals and Cowboys game right there. Two EASY dubs they badly need.
I’m glad they let Barkley go….giants signed 3 starters on the o line instead and you don’t overpay a RB. Eagles beat a bad team, but the league is full of them. Barkley won’t win a SB with Philly either.
@@andyduncan1039I’d pay for Henry and I’d rather have Barkley than Jones.
@@austinking9912I get what you’re saying but 15 mil is way too much for him. Tracy has played pretty well for a rookie, and he’s not making that much. Keep improving the OL, or try, and any decent RB will be able to run….to me it’s all about the OL
What’s mind boggling is the ownership is still the same they’ve had when they won those SB’s.. Was it a good move to fire Jerry Reese and Coughlin??
Colin Cowherd before the season “The Giants are going to be competitive”. 7 games in “ The Giants need to start over”. Expert analysis.
Even the experts get it wrong, on all levels, the couch experts like you, draft experts, coaches, owners GM. Everyone gets it wrong. Idk why you people type comments like this. I’m sure you were wrong many times on players or teams lol.
@@Blazejones31 this was a bad team everyone saw coming though…
@@Blazejones31I like Colin but he doesn’t know more about the NYG than I do. Been a NYG fan since 1963. And it wasn’t difficult to see the NYG was a sub 500 team. Vegas who Colin calls “ the sharps” had them at 6.5 which is bottom 5 in NFL. I ‘m sure Colin being in the media understands he is subject to criticism
@@Blazejones31What do you mean you people?!
With Andrew Thomas they would be competitive but without him it’s disastrous
The eagles played without their LT and guard and still dropped 250 rushing yds on the giants...
But but Andrew Thomas was out 😂
QB Daniel Jones is a "Broken Down QB". The NY Giants made him this way from the beginning of his rookie year.
But but, the sun was on Jones’s eyes, not his fault!
Talk to em🤣
Helps when the OPP team don’t have a QB that can get 1st downs. 😂
Joe Schoen lifting up his phone and pretending to look and then putting it down to act like he was getting Saquon updates in front of the owner of a multi billion dollar franchise is embarrassing
Where did this happen, please? I really would like to watch this...
@@TimothyReady-df8zuon the hard knocks show from preseason…it’s amazing to watch.
Extremely
@TimothyReady-df8zu
On hard knocks when mara asked him about updates on Saquon's suitors. He informed him that he wouldn't be able to sleep at night if Saquon went to philly... Joe looked down at his phone and said Chicago is in the lead and philly is out of the race lol and smh
@@chazg8489how would you know? He said that was the latest he heard and said it might not be true
On what basis can you confidently claim to know he lied
Stop blaming the O line. On 6 of the 7 sacks, Jones held the ball for 4 seconds. You can't do that today. Plant that foot at 2.5 seconds, if not out by 3 seconds throw it away (old school at the feet of a WR).
Literally the only qb that even sniffs the numbers your asking for the ball to get out by are tua , nobody else in the league can make the throws he can from pre to post snap and throw with the level on anticipation it takes to release the ball 2 seconds after it’s snapped . The problem
Is 100% your own line , guy when he’s protected he’s above average , your oline is awful and you literally have one wide out that can catch the ball that’s it’s
@@vinceventura4453 The o line is not horrible.... Against the eagles yes... The majority of Sacks on Jones are labeled on him and not the o line and Jones is never ever above average maybe only once ever
With Saquon they have just as many wins lol the problem isn't that they didn't resign him it's the QB
Keep Jones get rid of Nabers and Andrew Thomas
@@markmarcucio4177lmao
Get rid of everybody with talent and keep the bum
@chazg8489 yes and get Pat Shurmur and Dave Gettleman back
@@markmarcucio4177 🤣🤣🤣
They should have asked DJ to re work his contract and keep Barkeley.
Nabors and Saquon command double teams. Which would have meant either single coverage for Darius and Wandale R.
As a result of the coverage that would have taken pressure off of the o line and DJ .
This is bad on Joe S. And Daboll.
Any person with rudimentary knowledge of football would see this.
Both of them and even Nabors have dropped key passes. Nah the biggest problem is Daboll insisting on trying to force a round peg in a square hole with Ezeudu and failing to account for the Kicker. They could very easily be 4-2 right now
Was it a cap issue, or did they not want to pay a RB?
@HorFell Keep Jones and Singletary, Get rid of Nabers, Andrew Thomas and Dexter Lawrence, and bring back Dave Gettleman and Pat Shurmur. Letting Barkley go was a good move.
They could’ve put Jones on the franchise tag and kept Barkley. To put it in perspective Saquon wanted 3yrs $40M. They said that was too much but gave Jones $40M per year. That was insulting.
Yall non NYG fans are casuals🤣🤣 Eli had Odell & Saquon when he peaked in 2018 & they went 5-11🤣🤣🤣 Daniel Jones is 10x worse then Eli💀
Tim Mara thought Daniel Jones was the next Eli Manning and forced him on Schoen and Dabol. The day Mara sells the team is the day the Giants start getting better. Fifteen years without a decent offensive line, are you kidding??
It’s John Mara. Tim Mara was his grandfather and Tim Mara was alive he would of booted DJ out of MetLife!
Lol. It's Jon Mara and he shares ownership with Tisch. He doesn't run it alone. But, Tisch does allow him to have leadership of the organization.
Well whatever his name is, he should look himself in the "Mara", and do what's right for Giant fans and leave.
. Steve Tisch is the Money and The Mara's run the football side. John Mara was the reason Jones got the $40 million a year.
@@WilliamBrightman-dn8de true but nothing happens without Tisch sign off as well. Regardless Mara needs to look into holding Joe Schoen accountable.
Cam Ward is the 1 pick.
Or shedeur
If I were the coach, I would have benched Daniel Jones for the season by now
20 year fan checking in. JUST SUBSCRIBED!
The front office and the HC have been just as miserable as the QB.
Why does anyone like Daboll. His career as an offensive coordinator was miserable until Josh Allen. Actually, his offenses tanked near the bottom until Allen.
But you can't keep changing GMs and coaches every couple of seasons.That's Jets territory. We have to see what Daboll can do with his own QB.
The OL since the beginning of the 2019 season has given up a league leading 267 sacks probably 300 by end of season average 60 sacks a year. Will it ever be fixed
Colin has the worst takes of all time, but I'll agree with this one. Giants are looking like trash and Daniel Jones does not get me sprung
Nope, you're just slow. You agree with a painfully obvious take in year 6 that Daniel Jones is terrible. I'll alert the media. Brilliant comment, guy. You're doing great.
He is one of the few that actually makes sense. You must be a First Take guy.
@@michaels7159Lame, juvenile attempt at attacking a commentator
@@philliptimmons2135He makes no sense, using nonsensical analogies all the time. You must be a short bus student
@@philliptimmons2135 Colin tries to make his takes seem intellectual when they are just garbage takes. Colin is what we in the business call a glazer and a meat rider
How could you ever pay Daniel Jones $160 million
Daniel
If you had recently been lobotomized 😂😂
Bill Belichick next HC of the NYG
Daniel jones with and without Andrew Thomas is literally going from average at best to unplayable if you look at the splits
I can’t get very excited for this team with 8 at qb. I’m exhausted
Hell Collin , I’m sure Marcus Mariota would like another shot as a starter . Do you think that would be a good fit and they could draft a qb and let him sit for a bit ??
He just played for Washington when Daniels got hurt
Joe Schoen should also get heat for not re-signing McKinney who has had a major impact with Green Bay.
McKinney wanted to win
Thats irrelevant because Giants pass defense ranks 5th while GB is 16th, rookie Slot CB Dru Phillips is a top 5 highest graded CB at 83.3, rookie S Tyler Nubin has a above average grade of 71
I never want to see Jones in a Giants uniform again. I'm done with him, and Daboll should be fired for keeping him on the field.
Should have done it before yhey gave him that damn contract.
For 9 out of the last 10 seasons, the Giants season ended by week 5.
For how long are we going to say it’s the O line look at the commanders,falcons,Vikings all have holes in there lineup if ur a great team with decent players u find a way to win
I couldn’t understand why they even gave Daniel jones another contract, it was beyond me why!? I just knew they would’ve went QB in the draft! Smdh. Hurts haven’t been the same since the 49ers exposed the eagles last yr
The ultimate problem with the giants is that we need a qb, but Daboll is a great coach and will always find a way to win enough games that we won’t have a high enough pick to get a qb. Only option seems to be to trade up.
1:07 is facial a sports term?? Or is this the context I think it is
Fire daboll and schoen, they gave away ty rod, barklely, Mc Kinney, lenard. Those guys are bums.
If the Giants don't change their name to the Midgets, they should be sued for false advertising.
So Cam Ward isn’t a first round pick ?? Have you seen him play
That's what I'm saying. The blasphemy spewing from their mouths. Especially, how Cowherd has had awful takes on QBs in the past. Ward is a baller and in my opinion better than Sanders
To be clear, Jalen being bad on third down does not mean the same thing as other quarterbacks. He has two downs to get the ball close to the sticks before taking a deep shot. If the shot doesn't connect, they go for it on fourth down. You kinda have to combine third and fourth down conversions.
Without a shake up of some kind the Giants are definitely in the bottom of the NFC East for possibly this and next year.
That stadium is just not a fun place to play for anyone except a visiting team
I agree that The Giants GM is pretty bad. I mean of course he is, he got hired SOLEY off of what Brandon Beene did, instead of his own merit. But to says Dabol has done a good job is a really bad take. No offensive guy that’s a good coach should ever be only scoring 3 points, against a defense that can’t rush the passer. It doesn’t matter who your QB is. And it’s not like it’s the 1st time. Dabol has way too many games were he completely fails at what the media says he’s good at, the offense. Dabol got pretty lucky one year and barely made the playoffs… even though they got outscored that year. And maybe Dabol will make a good head coach someday, buts he pretty bad right now.
Colin has always been spot on with his Daniel Jones takes
The Giants should draft Sheduer Sanders! The In the current NFC East the Giants need to make a big splash to compete. Since they have a number 1 receiver and a good Oline/Dline, him being on a rookie contract would be a perfect transition.
Giants fan, love Saquon but letting him go was the right move. I was happy to see him do well against us, helped us earn another loss which, frankly, is what we need. We're bad now and were bad when 26 played for us. He was a luxury we could not afford.
We know it’s you Joe Schien 😂
You could afford him. Your team chose Daniel Jones instead.
The problem is yall should've extended Saquan after playoff run and not Jones.
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no we should’ve franchise tagged him… hey it’s a business right saquon?.
The most effective solution is to tank for a high draft position and get an Elite QB
there is no elite QB in the 2025 draft
Sure. Just like that. Draft an elite qb....easy!
I would draft another peice and wait to 2026 and be in the manning lottery because we should of waited in '19 but picked jones when if just waited a year and played ELi one more year we would have had Herbert
@@qchawkeye68 If you are correct, then Mara needs to sell the team
How's Cam Ward?? I don't watch much college
Narrator: But, it was not over for Daniel Jones in Big Blue
over 10 ypc and 170 yds in 3 quarters
Mara is lying and being fake. He had two years to negotiate a contract with saquon. The fact that Mara (and co) was relying on the market not being friendly for running backs was indicative of how they felt about bringing back your best player.
Not a Giants fan and paying D Jones was mistake and not trading Barkley last year was mistake but not signing him was correct move. You dont pay RBs unless you title contender
Redskins fan here. Giants are screwed up for now, but Giants front office is smart enough to handle this.
Going to take a year or two but y'all will be OK.
I'm surprised at the Mara family not seeing Saquon's potential and ability. Dan Jones is not the answer. I'm rooting for the Eagles and Saquon!
I've argued this with giants fans all week long. We don't have a QB or a HC so what do we need a pricey RB for?
In the interest of fairness - The Giants have a solid roster when it comes to solid offensive line, wide receivers, 2 legit young tight ends and strong defense. All they need is a quarterback. That's the only real weak link in the chain. There is talk about the possibilities of the Giants being a strong candidate to trade a 2nd or 3rd round pick for Mathew Stafford. He may be 36, But he still has a couple of good years left in him. The Giants could get him and with luck - Get Arch Manning in the 2026 Draft.
preaching to the fucking choir colin
How come it's so few elite qbs. I mean.. it seems there were more of them 10-15 years ago. But now... how many? Like maybe 3?
Can't blame the o line. Much improved pre Thomas injury
Jones isn't that guy
Re build curse of coughlin reigns supreme 😮
Lol. Did you not watch the game? O line got smoked. What a nerd.
Idk who in their right mind could justify paying Daniel jones and some of these other qbs to be honest. When he first signed the deal and they let go of saquan like wtf are we doing.
Should have paid Saquan tagged Daniel or just let his trash ass walk. Just terrible - poor business decisions back to back
My main issue with that Jones contract is they were bidding against themselves. No way anyone else would have paid him that
DJ has to go. Absolutely tired of everyone defending. "But the o-line." "But the receivers." He has arguably the best receiver in the league and is being coached by a highly talented offensive coordinator turned head coach. A subpar o-line isn't enough to excuse the poor play. Dropback and throw it
Jones isn’t even good when he has everything right. We won less than half the games he had everything in. He’s a guy who drags the talent around him down. And no one is giving you a half eaten ham sandwich for Jones forget a draft pick.
They won less
Tank
Where could we land in the draft?
We haven’t had a good OL in so long. You win in the trenches
Jones isn’t tradable. The Giants would have to package him with high picks of their own for another team to take on his garbage contract
Why do i watch this. Idk. It's comforting
I think Daboll is not waiting for DJ to get hurt. Is to risky in fact DJ is guaranteed to get 23 mil if he get hurt. Doboll is not taking a chance so I have a gut feeling he will benched DJ.
Needless to say the front office made a huge mistake giving Jones the deal instead of Barkley!! Could have gone with veteran until u find a QB!!
I think that's been the plan, but Mara knows its the Giants. NYG being one of the class organizations of the league can't tank. It was a secret tank putting the O on Jones.
Long long time fan here. Love football. Played a lot. Coached. Etc.... Giants need to block better and tackle better. That alone would make us competitive. No one can throw in under a second. No discipline at all on D. No contain, no moving to fast paced on offense from shotgun. As far as roster. Plenty of talent
Colin “I talked to a GM over dinner” Cowherd 😂
The Giants are benching Daniel Jones? Now? Hold on now fellas, lets not get hasty!
Giants is a DUMPSTER FIRE
Are a dumpster fire
“It’s all good. I would rather let the young boys eat,” Barkley again said.
Sounds great, makes for good headlines. But no way Mara gets rid of him. Mara loves Jones, and now its obvious that Mara drafted Jones, not the GM. Jones was NEVER a 1st round draft choice, but the Giants pulled the trigger none the less. Loads of people were scratching their heads at the pick and look how badly its gone. Few owners have the real skill to run a team. Shame ego forces them into making decisions. Their ego should have them select the best GM and let that guy run the team.
I disagree on Sanders. he is not a NFL 1st rounder. He'd be good for the 2nd or 3rd. He's throwing is actually sub-par. REC have to readjust and the throws a lot of "up for grabs" passes that the better athletes at Colorado win.
Cam Ward - Miami
Avery Johnson - KState
Both are better passers but Johnson wont be in the draft.
Ewers, might be something if given time to develop but that doesnt happen in today's game. He'll probably be the next Baker, suck for a few years then get on a team with a system he can work in, and he'll do better.
There is about 2 minutes of meaningful content on these Volume videos. You've always got to skip the intro trash, skip through the ad reads, skip the 19 ad breaks, and skip the unrelated crap when they try to sneak in golf, basketball or baseball.
Daniel Jones fooled one GM to draft him at six and another GM to give him the money bag. That is some serious talent to fool two GMs. As far as quarterback talent, not so much....
Should have kept Saquon and tagged Jones while looking for a replacement in the draft.
The Daniel Jones saga was a disaster in the making the moment they drafted him where they did and then thought he was a Hall of Famer after six games…
could they try to get Tyson Bagent?? before nov 5th
Not hard to figure out who colin was talking to
Daboll called a handful of run plays!! Look into that. Can't protect him. Recievers can't catch!! Daboll needs to go the same time jones does!
It’s very simple with the G-Men draft a QB that can change the culture look at Washington nobody can say that they have better roster that Giants but a difference maker under center can change everything it’s not rocket science Daboll and Schoen aren’t going anywhere until they get their guy next year
Colin, everybody blames the o-line, and then Dj. Then they have a decent game and look competent (relatively speaking) and most of the boo birds switch camps. Here is where I’d like to challenge this line of thinking… COULD IT BE THE PLAYCALLING? They lose AT, they know he’s the lynchpin of the oline, with him gone you will not have the time for these deep crossing routes and concepts. That’s exactly what happened vs the eagles, they got in 3 and long situations “had to” go for the deep concepts. So there’s my bitching and whining, so what’s the solution?
RUN THE BALL, SCREENS, SLANT routes. How many of those got called in the game? 3 runs in the first half? Are you fking kidding? Okay so they load the box? Screens, bubble screens & slants.
As far as the 2025 draft? If I’m the Giants, it’s all offense. 1st round trade down. Try grabbing another wr that can at least CATCH. Love wandale’s and slayton’s effort, A+ there, but the resulting drops? Holy hell, they ain’t it. Trade them. Trade them NOW to a team like the 49ers or chiefs. Get something, probably won’t be much but better than a bag full of dropped passes. After the first round, I’m loading up on offensive line. AT gets hurt often, and as well as the current guys have played when he was in there, they played like garbage without him. Guess what? The eagles didn’t have their starting LT and the oline (after the first few series) actually played well. Run blocking was great, their guards and centers pulled well and found the lb/s in the second level, and the tackles kicking their guys out. Pass blocking, although the first few series we sacked them, they started clicking and gave hurts enough time for those deep strikes.
If I’m the GM, I’m trading Azeez (love you buddy you you’re the only one with a high enough market to garner a 3rd maybe even a 2nd round pick), I’m trading wandale and slayton, (maybe 5 or 6th rounders), I’m trading singletary, we have Tracy, and I’d like to see Miller back him up (sorry gray you’re getting cut). You take all those picks, you trade down with your first, get more picks, and hopefully have enough draft capital to get a solid wr, and a couple more linemen to challenge what’s been a dumpster fire without AT in there.
BUT WHATABOUT the qb? Well I agree with you guys here. I don’t think any of them are IT. Maybe Cam Ward, Miami after all has a god awful defense and it’s really been up to him to put up godly numbers, in a non “system” school like bama, Georgia, Ohio st, Texas…
They said same things about Goff. Jones needs a new team. He might need to go play back up for a year and work his way back to a starter. He'd probably end up succeeding on another team.
Goff? The Goff who went to a Super Bowl?
@@BlindedBySight before Goff was traded to the Lions everybody was ridiculing him. Acted like he was a dud.
They didn't bench Jones. He keeps repeating this lie. They sat their starters after the game was out of hand. That's like saying the Eagles benched Hurts and Barkley. Have some media integrity
Philly pulled their qb at the same time.. Why is this a story??
It was over 4 weeks ago.....
I blame the Giants continued demise on Eli Manning and the Giants organization as a whole. Their allegiance to Eli Manning has ruined the Giants. They listened to him and drafted Jones. That pick, then not franchising Daniel Jones and alienating Saquan Barkley will set them back probably another 5yrs. Its been 5yrs since Eli retired. So 10yrs of being horrible is in the Giants future.
Can't put this on Shoen; he wasn't there when they signed Jones to a massive contract. As much as it probably hurts to have Barkley come in and run them over, it was probably the right long-term move. This team wasn't going to be truly competitive for the next couple years anyways.
Welp, you paid the QB, and set the franchise back YEARS. Who's worse: the NY Giants with Jones, or the Browns with De-weinstein?
I think the giants should sign Jason Giambi
Daboll needs a chance to pick his own QB. But he might not get that opportunity!
140 yards before contact!
The GM with Super Bowl experience is Les Snead, just a guess lol
This whole Giants situation. Not paying Saquon. What he wanted. How do you over pay a running back of that caliber. Considering he was the franchise back. And the best player on the damn team. You refuse to pay him 2 years in a row! He took a discount last year bet on himself. Played well enough on a bad team and you still don’t pay him! Go on hard knocks and making all these excuses for not paying Saquon. Tell
Him too “TEST THE MARKET” and then you let home walk to a division rival?
No way the GM and the coach has to go! There’s no market for Daniel jones. We have no good options wr back up and the defense is not gonna play amazing every game. This team is doomed man. I promise you. Doomed.
If you dont pay SB his wages, then the Eagles are more likely to lose more games and the rest of the team’s wages are a waste.
Colin after the Giants beat the Seahawks “Giants have a real football team” Colin two weeks later “Giants need to start over” 😂
It's not all DJ. Too many Coaches and schemes over the years has not helped. I hope he goes somewhere else and has success. NYG organization has given the Fans very little to cheer about over the last maybe decade or so. Needs to be a big substantial change...
You can’t be serious. He the reason we can’t put up any points. He can’t read a defense, he has no arm, he doesn’t know how to go through his reads, he doesn’t adjust the line to pick up the blitz, he makes rookie decisions and he’s in year six. Let’s stop with the excuses for this guy. The experiment is over. He has to be benched and shipped out immediately
Who is the GM that drafted Daniel Jones and thought he had hit a home run?
We didn’t win with Saquan anyway, we have too many holes to fill over paying a RB
They
He obviously spoke to Les Snead.
Daboll is not a HC, OC but not HC. Last year, the coaching staff was a train wreck and they had to pay Kafka not to leave. In 2022, Winks D and #26 helped win a few games and they played a terrible Vikings team in the playoffs. This team is consistently undisciplined, unprepared and out coached. Josh Allen made Daboll, not the other way around. 48 yr Giants fan here and I can't watch these clowns anymore.