Every turret versus the Core (Maximum Damage Edition) | Mindustry

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  • Опубліковано 4 чер 2022
  • This is not a repost, just to be clear.
    Pretty much every turrets versus the core, but it's remade so that every turrets could use their strongest ammo ang equipped with Cyrofluid. This is for those that wanted me to do this because of ammo imbalance in the previous video. The results are much more different surprisingly.
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  • @Le_Mayo
    @Le_Mayo Рік тому +58

    Maybe the small tirrets are so good because you put FOUR OF THEM

    • @I_googoogaga
      @I_googoogaga 6 місяців тому +6

      I think he did it so cuz one big turret is at least 2x2 space and in that space you can fit 4 small turrets

  • @tetra8157
    @tetra8157 Рік тому +68

    2:50 if you used 4 lancers like you did with 4 arcs it would be at about 8s.... lancers arent overused, they are actually really good

    • @ew0858
      @ew0858 Рік тому +7

      This is 100% true, 1 lancer won't do much, but 2 lancerns can do way more than you expect

    • @Digi404_but_stupid
      @Digi404_but_stupid 11 місяців тому +2

      @@ew0858 fr, im still gonna spam lancers earlygame if i have energy

    • @ew0858
      @ew0858 11 місяців тому +1

      @@Digi404_but_stupid its a good strategy anyway

    • @Digi404_but_stupid
      @Digi404_but_stupid 11 місяців тому +1

      @@ew0858 the fact they can pierce is really strong

    • @leschatssuperstars1741
      @leschatssuperstars1741 10 місяців тому

      + with a good buffer, it can shoot a lot without killing your production@@Digi404_but_stupid

  • @Tunnaaa.75
    @Tunnaaa.75 2 роки тому +63

    now try max firerate spectre, using cryo, graphite, and boosters. your screen might have a earthquake ngl

    • @darkanimation4629
      @darkanimation4629 2 роки тому +10

      What about Cyclon with this booster

    • @kot000
      @kot000 Рік тому

      siligone is most powerfull at start

    • @user-zc2ks7pd3d
      @user-zc2ks7pd3d Рік тому +3

      Silicon cryo salvo is faster. It is literally a machine gun

    • @BugWaffle
      @BugWaffle Рік тому +1

      HAHA, FULLY BOOSTED FUSE GOES BBBBBBBBBBBBBBAM

    • @epikgamer965
      @epikgamer965 Рік тому +1

      Haha

  • @TheLittleLeoP
    @TheLittleLeoP 2 роки тому +103

    You made the people that were mad about ammo imbalance from the last turret video calm down, but now they're roasting you for saying that cyclones are big hails
    Pain

    • @ZymerBoy
      @ZymerBoy  2 роки тому +7

      Idk why this keeps happening lol

    • @UnknownZYX_4085
      @UnknownZYX_4085 2 роки тому +1

      lol

    • @pankekboi8511
      @pankekboi8511 Рік тому +4

      @@ZymerBoy cyclone looks like small foreshadow

    • @dragonf1recdn
      @dragonf1recdn Рік тому +7

      @@pankekboi8511 Cyclones are actually big scatters. everyone knows this.

    • @pankekboi8511
      @pankekboi8511 Рік тому +2

      @@dragonf1recdn ok, i just think the colors are similar

  • @singularitytr1550
    @singularitytr1550 Рік тому +19

    This was a little while ago but all these can be faster if you add MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE. Then don't forget that anything that uses surge alloy can have water added to the target to do even more damage.

    • @user-zc2ks7pd3d
      @user-zc2ks7pd3d Рік тому +1

      It can be even faster if you use navanax with logic to support it. It can overdrive things to 300% when it shoots them. Which is more than overdrive dome AND boosted overdrive projector.

  • @darkanimation4629
    @darkanimation4629 2 роки тому +47

    Who enter the video to see Cyclon with surg

  • @juliodebarrosdahora3019
    @juliodebarrosdahora3019 2 роки тому +34

    It's actually possible to use liquid turrets, u just need to use a turret with petroleum and another turret with slag

  • @calamitalcomputers
    @calamitalcomputers 10 місяців тому +3

    Foreshadow deals very low building damage, but eradicates enemies when super buffed

  • @00001Htheprogrammer
    @00001Htheprogrammer 2 роки тому +21

    Why lancer spam isn't that bad:
    1. Damage in a row(may hit 10 or more if attacking things like daggers)
    2. Crawler can't outrun it if you make a choke point so they have to move directly towards your lancer, not sideways
    3. With cryo their firerate can be pretty good
    4. Looks good

    • @exa0710
      @exa0710 Рік тому +1

      Use "-" for strikethrough, like this:
      -Never gonna give you up, Never gonna let you down-

    • @00001Htheprogrammer
      @00001Htheprogrammer Рік тому +2

      @@exa0710 Ik, but I am a programmer

    • @oogaooga0000
      @oogaooga0000 Рік тому +4

      ​@@00001Htheprogrammer time for the 🤓

    • @fishstick1900
      @fishstick1900 Рік тому +1

      Also no nova cheese as those and hails are basically the only early game things that can outrange them and hails are weak enough that novas can just get a few shots before healing or just run them down (unless they changed something in v7)

    • @christerarnoldbordon9129
      @christerarnoldbordon9129 Рік тому

      I agree, it's great at clearing chaff and finishing off heavily damaged high-tier enemies in the early game

  • @AbielAurelius
    @AbielAurelius Рік тому +1

    Fun fact pair 2 wave/tsunamis and one of them will have slag and the other has oil, and you got yourself burning spray paint.

  • @Some_random_person1213
    @Some_random_person1213 Рік тому +1

    I saw a text saying the core was cooked for dinner in nearly 7 seconds

  • @alexmendez7460
    @alexmendez7460 2 роки тому +4

    Misspelled hail in cyclone section,i think it's scatter what you meaned.
    Still bonkers the time it took

  • @sicarved
    @sicarved 2 роки тому +11

    You forgor overdome and turret synergies 💀

    • @ZymerBoy
      @ZymerBoy  2 роки тому +10

      I think I mentioned in the video that I won't be using overdomes. Turret synergies, I don't know any of those sadly

    • @user-uu6xz6lk6o
      @user-uu6xz6lk6o 2 роки тому +5

      @@ZymerBoy Turret synergies is "surge cyclone+water tsunami" for example, "Shocked" effect does a lot of damage

    • @user-uu6xz6lk6o
      @user-uu6xz6lk6o 2 роки тому +2

      @@ZymerBoy or "oil tsunami+slag tsunami", this one is also good

    • @haphung2064
      @haphung2064 2 роки тому +1

      @@ZymerBoy you can See all synergies in core database

  • @rapidfirevestige
    @rapidfirevestige Рік тому +2

    i watched this long time ago and i forgot to say some turret have less building damage
    like lancer

  • @elesystemic6742
    @elesystemic6742 Рік тому +1

    Foreshadow shoots at any ranges and scathe too!

  • @darkanimation4629
    @darkanimation4629 2 роки тому +6

    But l think the secret of Cyclon is the shocke
    damage

  • @finaltheory778
    @finaltheory778 2 роки тому +4

    Arcs have almost 2 times more power use per tile, but it turns out arcs do better than the lancers

    • @kristyandesouza5980
      @kristyandesouza5980 2 роки тому +3

      Instead of using a lot of expensive cryo for all the arcs, use water for about 1,8 times the damage with a liquid turret, and the problem with energy is solved

  • @elesystemic6742
    @elesystemic6742 Рік тому +1

    4 surge swarmers with coolant boost

  • @kristyandesouza5980
    @kristyandesouza5980 2 роки тому

    Thanks for this second video

  • @elesystemic6742
    @elesystemic6742 Рік тому +1

    2 surge cyclones with coolant boost

  • @akiraluiompod667
    @akiraluiompod667 Місяць тому +1

    Bro the strongest ammo for salvo is silicon since it turns the salvo into a minigun

  • @tetra8157
    @tetra8157 Рік тому +1

    some turrets are good at close range 1v1s, like meltdowns, they were made to handle crowd spams

  • @luhcsgrimm8857
    @luhcsgrimm8857 11 місяців тому +1

    Let's also consider range. Everything is balanced around that. Also lancers aren't overused. While one mat be slower than 4 arcs, the range is higher. And 4 landers would shred

  • @tanphamnhat969
    @tanphamnhat969 Рік тому +2

    6:54 as you can see, the foreshadow deal less dmg to building aka you are not bamboolzed, just because it used for the wrong purpose

    • @Jason-ie1ih
      @Jason-ie1ih Рік тому +1

      He is bamboozled because he thought it would deal higher damage from farther away ^^.

  • @selok91
    @selok91 Рік тому +1

    bro really compared 4 arc's to 1 lancer and said that lancer is bad

  • @ItsartoTV
    @ItsartoTV 9 днів тому

    Some turrets do lower damage to buildings that's whu some were worse than others

  • @chips2786
    @chips2786 2 роки тому +2

    Now do erekir turrets

  • @Msadr14
    @Msadr14 2 роки тому +4

    5:20 cyclone is not big hail

  • @STEALT_BLADE
    @STEALT_BLADE 5 місяців тому +1

    forgot about overdrive

  • @dangductran2926
    @dangductran2926 Рік тому

    I'm not sure if it because V7 is different, but pyratite salvo is actually stronger than thorium. Just tested it and it is confirmed.
    When used with no cryo against a core, pyratite salvo finished about 2 second faster.
    Thorium is now the worst ammo for spectre in term of single targer dps, graphite now only deal 50 damage, but is 70% faster, 170% of 50 is 85, so it deal more dps than thorium (verified), it does not have piercing tho. Pyratite is now the strongest ammo, dealing 70 direct plus an additional 20 area damage, result in 90, higher than thorium, and have the same piercing. The only advantage thorium has now is that it can be used directly from the drill.

  • @dot2810
    @dot2810 2 роки тому +8

    in v7 (build 135.2) pyratite ammo got buffed

    • @dangductran2926
      @dangductran2926 Рік тому +1

      Yea pyratite salvo is stronger than thorium now.
      Edit 1:Not like pyratite spectre is better than thorium spectre tho.
      Edit 2: Wait pyratite is actually better. Thorium is the weak one now in term of single target dps.

  • @Blitzs02
    @Blitzs02 Рік тому

    Hmm Seems Like I Understimated Cyclone

  • @BP--
    @BP-- 2 роки тому +1

    MAX possible attack speed for all turrets

  • @ZymerBoy
    @ZymerBoy  2 роки тому +15

    Last time, I misread the Spectre turret as the Reign unit. Now Cyclone is apparently a big version of Hail. Yes. 5:20
    I guess this is what happens when you always keep making videos at literally midnight. E

    • @copcakebird
      @copcakebird 2 роки тому +1

      What mods did you use? Like the invincibility.

    • @copcakebird
      @copcakebird 2 роки тому

      E

    • @copcakebird
      @copcakebird 2 роки тому

      Units next?

    • @water1705
      @water1705 2 роки тому

      eh same thing

    • @dangductran2926
      @dangductran2926 Рік тому

      You should try salvo again with pyratite, it is faster than thorium (literally 1 second faster without booster)

  • @seriatekata2375
    @seriatekata2375 2 роки тому

    Heya Zymer it’s me lunatic (aka fortunata) on another account got bored while watching stuff so decided to see what you were doing

  • @voidheart069
    @voidheart069 10 місяців тому +1

    @ZymerBoy in your about section you said you won't say anything about from what country you came from and I'm guessing it's philippines since there is THAT word in your description that gave it away right? (ang).

    • @ZymerBoy
      @ZymerBoy  6 місяців тому +1

      Shhhhh, be quiet now......

    • @voidheart069
      @voidheart069 6 місяців тому +1

      @@ZymerBoy ok

  • @Bruhman-zq5tk
    @Bruhman-zq5tk Рік тому +2

    what is the mod for showing the strength of objects? Tell me please😭😭😭

  • @user-ph4sy9pm3f
    @user-ph4sy9pm3f 2 місяці тому

    You forgot to put an overdrive dome

  • @abulletant1147
    @abulletant1147 2 роки тому

    Any sort of way I can deal with some sectors? Because they leave me with limited ore.

  • @ZeolanRed
    @ZeolanRed Рік тому +1

    Spectre is a bigger salvo

  • @cerberusslavomiraarus1308
    @cerberusslavomiraarus1308 2 роки тому +1

    Now overdrive domes

  • @catland88
    @catland88 11 місяців тому

    bro i feel like the lancers range is a factor you arent taking into account

  • @TheMan-et3xz
    @TheMan-et3xz 2 години тому

    i use spore pod kamakazi tactic to deal with enemy cores

  • @thegreattwintank2018
    @thegreattwintank2018 2 місяці тому +1

    Scorch used to look like that?

  • @YourBestFriend1118
    @YourBestFriend1118 Рік тому +2

    in v7, the turret that has most dps is a swarmer, with surge ammo, cryo, and a dome it is able to reach over 4k damage per second, more if the target is wet

    • @touristofsongs4946
      @touristofsongs4946 Рік тому

      Cyclones are a lot better. Swarmer is weak against t5 if you dont give it water (Cyclone as well, but cyclone area damage is WAY MORE higher that swarmer)

    • @YourBestFriend1118
      @YourBestFriend1118 Рік тому

      @@touristofsongs4946 you are wrong in fact, they aren't weak vs t5 without water, they are effective by themselves, also let's be real, who normal places a single swarmer without cryo and overdrive (and water tsunami) to fight a t5

  • @errorerror713
    @errorerror713 Рік тому +1

    Bonus?

  • @boyboy1895
    @boyboy1895 Рік тому +1

    Override dome?

  • @tomp23cz44
    @tomp23cz44 Рік тому

    what about the towers from V7?

  • @ee-kk9wr
    @ee-kk9wr 2 роки тому +3

    now do it with units

  • @Runerobot
    @Runerobot 11 місяців тому +1

    Cooking core 1:10

  • @N.l.G.G.A
    @N.l.G.G.A Рік тому

    Ey you forgot the overclock

  • @phen1811
    @phen1811 Рік тому

    maximum damage would have the overdrive thing

  • @user-zc2ks7pd3d
    @user-zc2ks7pd3d Рік тому

    Why did you use just 1 lancer

  • @NEINNEINNEINNEIN1
    @NEINNEINNEINNEIN1 Рік тому

    lancer is good,the best rush turret in terms of range

  • @rocketman7254
    @rocketman7254 2 роки тому

    6:06 almost my time it's 730 am

  • @takidzenani5544
    @takidzenani5544 Рік тому +1

    Why lancer is 1

  • @ultimaterzgaming1269
    @ultimaterzgaming1269 Рік тому

    try using a overdrive dome :trol:

  • @tetra8157
    @tetra8157 Рік тому +1

    again, this isnt a fair test since you used 4 of the smaller turrets...

  • @ethanbayeta7557
    @ethanbayeta7557 Рік тому

    Just use an overdrive dome

  • @smudgycat6750
    @smudgycat6750 Рік тому +1

    Wasn't. Fair test, you used 1 lancer

  • @UnknownZYX_4085
    @UnknownZYX_4085 2 роки тому

    Swarmer op

  • @Amrik2010
    @Amrik2010 2 роки тому

    Can I ask for the mods used in this video?

    • @Amrik2010
      @Amrik2010 2 роки тому

      Yes, I play with mods

  • @astroturf7802
    @astroturf7802 Рік тому +1

    7:45 E

  • @Merkary
    @Merkary Рік тому +1

    For the specter, the ammo with the highest DPS is actually graphite, not thorium.

    • @Ransa_abil
      @Ransa_abil Рік тому

      Blast compound is better

    • @karmdeez911
      @karmdeez911 10 місяців тому

      @@Ransa_abil specter cant take blast compound ain't it?

    • @Ransa_abil
      @Ransa_abil 10 місяців тому

      @karmdeez995 My bad, pyrotite is better

  • @somedudethatripsplanetinha4221

    lancer spamming saves you in the mid and early late game where if you conserve a little you can prevent dying to siligone and combustion gens with coal are your lifeblood
    but yes early and late game never spam lancer even if you don't die to siligone
    *_I am about to mass produce Swarmers._*

  • @boblol1465
    @boblol1465 2 роки тому

    3:14
    time to spam arcs

  • @colboy123
    @colboy123 Рік тому +1

    The reasons you are against lancers are laughable. I agree they are overused. But I do not agree bc of your reasons. Expensive? I have no idea how you lack enough silicon to build just a few of these. A crawler could outrun it? Why would you design your defences so that would happen? That’s like saying a scatter is bad bc it died to ground units. And third; yes, other turrets could be stronger. But as the lancer only uses water, it doesn’t need conveyor belts. Yes they need some nodes, but saying that’s a major downside is childish. And you can’t deny that if the enemies walk in a straight line, then the lancer WILL take them with crowd control capabilities at a range

    • @ZymerBoy
      @ZymerBoy  Рік тому

      I'm pretty sure I'm over exaggerating. Lancers still good though

  • @rkid246gameplay3
    @rkid246gameplay3 Рік тому

    Try reactor💀

  • @iamalemon1022
    @iamalemon1022 10 місяців тому +1

    SCORCH IS BEST

  • @flamesghost9418
    @flamesghost9418 2 роки тому

    You only placed one lancer the time is actually ÷4

    • @flamesghost9418
      @flamesghost9418 2 роки тому

      I have to say if you start with 4 do it with EVERYTHING it is a equalisation not 1=4

    • @flamesghost9418
      @flamesghost9418 2 роки тому

      1:1

    • @flamesghost9418
      @flamesghost9418 2 роки тому

      But yeah i overreacted... you as a viewer could just divide it by 4

  • @radicalmancays910
    @radicalmancays910 2 роки тому +2

    E

  • @00001Htheprogrammer
    @00001Htheprogrammer 2 роки тому +1

    yours grammar are no very better
    The mistakes heer is intention.
    For examples: "more faster"

    • @ZymerBoy
      @ZymerBoy  2 роки тому +2

      A child's writing basically

    • @pota2s561
      @pota2s561 2 роки тому

      it hurts me that you're the trying to criticize grammar while having the grammar equivalent to an 8-year-old

  • @FahrurRoziqin
    @FahrurRoziqin 2 роки тому

    halo bang