The conversion kick after the try (that adds 2 points) gets taken in line with where they touch the ball down. So the more towards the middle they touch the ball down the easier the kick would be.. Quick basics.. You can only pass the ball backward to someone level/or behind you, but you can kick the ball forward.
Bruh I was literally gonna comment all this for a little basic knowledge - I mean there are always a couple highlight reels these boys could watch - names come to mind such as the tuilagi brothers, Courtney lawes, Jonah lomu etc.
what i love about rugby as an american, is that anyone can get a 'try' aka 'touchdown'. every player has their specialty and their own place on the field, but if an opportunity presents itself, any player can go for the glory. where as NFL is very much heavily compartmentalized and very specialized and they have their job and they must stick to that job. also the hot potatoe style of getting the ball to the try line and the acrobatics with the ball and choreography of the entire team to get it there, is one of the most satifsfying things. the build up to go from one end of the field to the other, is an amazing thing to see. being american i do love NFL, but my passion for rugby is just on another level and absolutely respect both sports.
They turn in the end zone so they have an easier conversion. The kick at goal after the try is in line with where they ground the ball when they score.
Ball needs to go over the "Try Line" and it's best to get closer to the 2 posts in the centre of the field so it's easier for the kicker to kick a conversion. A conversion allows a team to get 2 more points after you score a "Try" by kicking between the posts.
One thing that normally gets neglected is the fact that Everyone in the team is running and supporting the one with the ball. When you are about to get tackled and you look back and you see your team mates behind you is quite empowering. Then you get tackled and you dont just lay there resting, you get up and start running to your position again to support your team.
I never found it empowering, I always thought, shit I hope one of those clowns is back there supporting me. Then after the tackle I was OMG now i have to get back up else Im the clown.
Not only is the athleticism amazing, they do it for 80 minutes with a 10 minute break at half time. Some of those dudes weigh nearly 300lbs and they have to run like hell a lot of that time.
3:35 that was Jonah Lomu(RIP) , the man the words "beast mode" were invented for, you should watch his highlights 6'6", 265 lb, sub 11 second 100 meter times , dude was unstoppable
I've never been much into ball sports but my old man, (rest his soul) being a Welshman LOVED rugby. So time spent with him at weekend visits would usually involve sitting in front of the fireplace in his cosy little cottage, with gin & tonics, him smoking a cuban and me smoking a joint, watching the rugby, with me 'pretending' to be into it so we can have more of a connection. But seeing these tries gave me goosebumps and brought a tear to my eye, as I know the old fella would of been up out of his seat shouting at the TV... truly it is an amazing game of skill and athleticism.
You're kidding. My nan was a sweet little old lady who raised 10 kids, and some of her grand kids played rugby. You should have heard her swear at the telly when the rugby was on! Lol!
I watched the Japan vs South Africa game at 11:05 live on TV. It just looks like a good try, but the last 10 minutes of that game were played incredibly well by Japan. Easily one of the best sporting moments I've ever watched.
@@harrynelson9203 Funny thing is, at the rugby world cup, Japan had only ever won one other match up to that point in their world cup history. Their second ever win being against the favourites of the competition.
@@mrdoogle5931 Hahahaha ohh nice, that’s 2 more then what i would’ve thought, if you’re gonna win, win against the favourites i guess, bet that shredded a few tears, i don’t watch rugby at all so i wouldn’t have a clue, i do love watching japan in the football world cups 👍🏻👌🏻
@@harrynelson9203 as a South African, that result hurt so much. We were never going to win that tournament though. We were horrible before it began. We did win the next world cup though, Funny enough the next world cup was held in Japan.
Just can't believe that Gareth Edwards try for the Barbarians vs The All Blacks never gets a look in when it comes to great tries. I could watch it over and over again.
Me too, and I'm a self-confessed ABs tragic. Also, honourable mention to Jean-Luc Sadourny's 'try from the end of the world' against the ABs too. And there's probably a few now from Ireland that I've got a mental block about!
You're quite correct - there's amazing athleticism in Rugby Union (which is what you were watching). Rugby League is a quite different game and just as tough, but after each tackle there's a "play the ball" (where the tackled person basically rolls the ball back under his heels to a team mate), whereas in Union, EACH time a player is tackled (which includes having their progress impeded - they don't HAVE to be "grassed") the ball is contested in either a "ruck" (where the ball is on the ground) or a "maul" where the tackled player is held up off the ground - had his progress impeded. Other than "out of bounds" or a penalty or some mistake like a "knock on", Rugby Union is flat out, NON STOP for 2 40 minute halves, so supreme fitness is required. even for minor level games. They do NOT stop for TV "ad breaks" and all that hoopla your game does. It's very difficult in a few minutes typing to give you a proper precis of the game, but that's a start for you!
The closer to the middle they score the try, the easier the conversion kick is (after a try they take a kick aimed to be between the sticks called a conversion for extra points). It's easier because it's taken closer to the middle of the sticks which means it's also closer
After a player scores a try(touchdown) there is a conversion kick for an extra 2 points. This is 20 metres from the try line perpendicular to where the ball was grounded. The scorers continue to run around the posts rather than grounding ball ASAP to give a better angle for the conversion kick.
Watch the final of Rugby World Cup 2019 between the Springboks (South Africa) and The Roses (England) to see what UNION rugby is all about. The Boks won and are the reigning champions until the next World Cup in 2023. In fact, the Springboks have the best record at RWC (played every four years), having won the title three times since their first participation in 1995, having not participated in the first two events because of politics. The All Blacks (New Zealand), have also won it three times, but have played in all events since the first one in 1987, two events more than the Mighty Springboks.
Jona Lomu is the goat of rugby. Only every played at 80% due to illness, sadly passed away way to soon. Check him out, im an england fan but he alone putbus on our arse while raising all fans to the feet in Awre. Legend. , also check out the giant slayer from Australia!
The clip near the end where the side in red and white striped jerseys score is from the game where Japan, whose team were probably 25-30 pounds a man lighter than their opponents, South Africa, won the greatest victory in the history of the game. They were 500 to 1 outsiders. I watched the whole game in disbelief, my only regret was not betting on the Japanese.
My regret was not buying tickets for what was for me a local game (Brighton) in the 2015 World Cup. I thought it would be too one-sided for South Africa!
I think William Hill had 1000-1. Some nz Co. was running a comp where you picked the winner for every game and only winners went through to next game. Was meant to be built up to final... Only 1 person left in comp after this game and he picked japan by mistake
I think you would enjoy watching the New Zealand team doing the Haka which they perform before every match, there is a video of one that was performed in memory of Jonah Lomu the tank that ran over the England player in this clip which is very emotional, also unlike football the referees are shown much greater respect in both forms of Rugby a good example of which is Nigel Owens who also came out whilst still officiating the games
We have Major League Rugby (MLR) in America, since 2018 I think, Seattle had won the first two years iirc, Rugby New York won the final this year, and for the new season Chicago just got a team, the Chicago Hounders I think they’re called
As an Englishman it pains me, but Brian O’driscoll (BOD) is pound for pound the best Rugby player skill wise . Just unfortunate not to always have the supporting talent around him.
@2:53 This was my favorite rugby player of all time. His name is Shane Williams he played for my country Wales, and his pace and footwork wore next to none! Would love to see a reaction to a Shane Williams compilation or alternatively a Jonah Lomu compilation, Jonah was possibly the best rugby player ever
When you score a try in rugby you have to actually touch the ball to the ground (not just run into the zone). It used to be a rule in American Football, too. That's where you guys get the term "touchdown". After you score a try you then get a chance to score more points by kicking the ball between the posts (a conversion). The reason they turn and run further in the end zone is because where they place the ball down determines the angle of the conversion kick so, if they have time and space, they will place it down for a try in a more beneficial position in the end zone.
Current players to watch is Ardie Savea, Cheslin Kolbe, Michael Hooper, Lokhayo Am, Bauden Barrett, Antoine Dupont, Romaine Ntamack, Eben Etzebeth. Monster players of the past the goat Jonah Lomu, Brian Habana, Johnny Wilkinson, Daniel Carter, Pierre Spies, Bakkies Botha, Duane Vermeulen (Thor), Schalk Burger, Richie McCaw, Sonny Bill Williams
There are two 'branches' of rugby; Rugby Union (played 15-a-side and the original 'modern' form) and Rugby League (13-a-side); both originated in England in the 19th century. You mentioned "Wigan"; that is a Rugby League club; Union is by far the most widely played in the World and all the clips in this video were of Rugby Union; either Club or International games.
Rugby League was where the American Football grow out of. Teddy Roosevelt looked to ban the sport because of the violence. A kick is the forward pass. A player must be held in tackle to be down. At that point only the team with the ball can play it. Exception are to detailed to cover. No knee down stops play. Forward momentum across try line. So score a try by touching ball down is still in NFL rule book. Breaking the plane was added. Hence Touchdown. The tackling player is responsible for the safety of a player in the air. Any contact above the shoulders is a foul. Sitting out 10 minutes. Playing down a player for the rest of the match. Possible sanctions by the international/ regional governing body. Check the weight and height of Sam Whitelock NZ. The guy getting lifted. Don't watch any American Football after I found rugby union and 7s.
the reason they keep running after they cross the try line before touching the ball down for a try is because after a try you get the chance to kick a conversion this gives you 2 extra points. for a conversion they have to kick the bal, off the ground over the posts, like a field goal in American football the difference being they have to take the conversion kick from opposite where the try was scored so if the player can score the try behind the posts the conversion is much easier than kicking it from the side of the field
Cheers boys! welcome to Rugby, one of the great international sports. Rugby is a big part of our New Zealand culture as well as other countries. Rugby is safer than football, but it's harder. Just remember rugby is almost non-stop.
When they score a try the conversion ( kick for extra two points ) gets taken inline with where they score the try, so running closer to the posts in the end zone makes it a easier task for the kicker
"They turn and keep running" to get as close to goal posts as possible as after scoring try (T.D.) worth 5 pts, the team gets a "conversion", which is a place kick on the 22 yard line (22 yards from try line aka endzone) and inline with where the ball was touched down. Directly in front of posts shortest distance and easiest kick, worth 2 points... so a converted try is worth 5 + 2pts for 7 total... penalty kicks for foul play worth 3 pts and kicked from place penalty/foul occurred ... Rugby is an epic game to play and support. And good news for you boys, the US is an emerging power in rugby. Watch the world cup! (Shout for Ireland, we'll make your dreams come true- world rank #1 but have never made a RWC semii-final!) Foreal, USA Rugby deserves your support.
I think the keeping on running in the endzone is just managing their velocity and deciding where to fall. They look around to see if anyone is still trying to tackle them so that it's safe to dive or lean down.
No, it determines where the conversion is taken from. A conversion is a kick taken after a try is scored and is worth two points in addition to the five points awarded for a try. Other kicks can be taken when a team concedes a penalty. The penalty kick is worth three points but must be taken where the infringement occurred on the field. Some teams have players in their side that can kick a ball off the tee 60+ metres, so a team attacking that gives away a penalty, can often end up conceding three points, even though they are on attack and in the opponent's half. A couple of fun facts which most people in the US might not know. 1.) The USA Eagles Rugby team was the only side to score a try against Australia in the pool stages of the 1999 RWC. 2.) The USA Eagles have competed in every RWC bar the initial 1987, and now unfortunately the next instalment in France. Portugal have beaten the US and have taken their spot.
After a touch down there is a place kick called a conversion. Unlike grid iron the kick is taken perpendicular to the exact spot the ball is touched down, not right in front. The place kick, to score more points, has to go over the goals crossbar, so the player will run to get as close to under the goals as possible to make the placekickers job easier and to guarantee extra points. 5 points for the try 2 points for the conversion.
They run towards the middle of the posts (whenever they can), because where you touch the ball down determines where you kick your conversion (what you would call an extra point). In American football, you kick the extra point from the centre of the field, even is the touchdown is scored near the side lines. In rugby, you kick the conversion from where the 'try' is scored, so if you touch the ball down near the side lines, you kick from near the sidelines. The more central you touch the ball down, the easier the kick etc
After the ball is put down , the ball is then an followed attempted to add to the score by converting, kicking it between the posts. The position the ball is placed for that kick is directly parallel with where it was touched down. So the closer to the posts the easier i is to convert. Diving to touch down is theatrical, but has the thought that once airborne you cannot be pulled back, or have the ball removed.
They turn so they are nearer to the middle of the posts, or uprights, so when the kicker goes for the conversion kick after the try it is easier for them than if they were out wide. This is because after a try we get to try and kick the ball between the posts from a standing uncontested kick. The ball must be placed inline with where the try was scored so obviously its harder if your out on the wings, as even right infront of the posts the kick is taken 12 meters from the try line, so with the added distance and angle it's much harder.
where the ball is placed behind the "Try line" is where the conversion is taken from. So to kick for extra points its easier to do it in front of the posts then out on the wing.
5:50 the reason he turns in to score closer to the posts is because the conversation attempt(kick) for the try he just scored MUST be in line with where the ball is grounded as he scores the try. You can go as far forward/backward as you want to, but you MUST stay in line with that position which the referee spots and shows. Thus meaning the closer you score to the posts, the wider the angle and easier it is for the goal kicker to score the conversion.
Remember that in rugby you have to touch the ball on the floor for you to score, you then get a chance to kick for an extra 2 points directly from where the ball was touched down on the grass
After a try (touchdown) there is a conversion kick for extra points. The conversion kick is taken directly out from where the ball was placed on the ground during the try. So the nearer to the center that the ball is placed on the ground the easier it is to kick the ball through the two upright poles in the center. If the ball is placed on the ground at the far left or right, then the conversion kick is taken from the far left or right making it harder to get between the two upright poles in the center.
There are 3 ways to score by kicking the ball...First you can score a drop goal - this is when you kick the ball in open play between the posts and above the crossbar, Second...if you are awarded a penalty, or Third... after a Try the scoring team gets an opportunity to convert the Try by kicking the ball between the posts.
5:47 Reason why they keep running into the middle even tho they are already in the try area is because, where ever the ball is placed, that's where the kicker has to line up to take a shot for a conversion. So they they try to run in a little more to the middle to make the kickers job a tad easier.
The PAT (called a conversion) is kicked in line from where the ball is put down in the ‘end zone’ - so if it’s on the edge of the field you have kick the PAT from the edge of the field, if it’s in the middle it’s kicked from the middle. It’s worth 2 points instead of 1 though
You kick the "Conversion" goal after a try for an extra 2 points and you kick it from the "North South" line in the field where the try is scored, so if you can score it under the posts you have a better chance of getting the extra points via the conversion goal. For exampe those tries scored near the corner have their conversion goals needing to be kicked from right out there on the sideline, so its much harder. In a game where a single point is very often crucial, getting the Goals is how you win games.
If you want to watch a fantastic game, watch the final of the Womens World Cup, played at Eden Park, Auckland, New Zealand by the two top teams. Clean, fast, technically wonderful. The skill levels are fkn AMAZING!!
100% agree. Also the NZ v France game was probably even a touch better. Women's 7'si thought was so much better but those 2 games were out of this world for the girls. & RIP Jonah Lomu.
Depending on where the ball is grounded for the try depends on the angle of where the conversion kick is taken. Eg.Try grounded under the goal post's =conversion taken from directly in front of the goal post's. The further the try is grounded away from the goal post's = the harder the conversion kick angle needed to be taken.Much different when compared to an American football extra point conversion kick.
Back in the 70's I saw Australia play Western Samoa. The Samoan's tackling was completely legal. It's just that the Australians took their time getting back on their feet after some of those tackles. I have never seen anything like it, before or since. In the match programme (,this was when rugby was an amateur game) one of the Samoans occupations was given as "Piano Mover". Immense.
Ellerry Hanley greatest player the uk had JONAH LOMU was an incredible man HIGHLY RECOMMEND watching his Funeral, and Understanding wat he meant over there his HAKA TRIBUTE IS EMOTIONAL
REACT TO MORE RUGBY ! When scoring a TRY, the Conversion (PAT Attempt) kick will be placed perpendicular to where the ball was placed. Hence why players usually would try to score as close to the middle of the "End Zone" / "Try Area" for a better placed attempt at goal. Otherwise in the event of a penalty, the attempt would be from the point of infringement. New sub from NZ - Good shit boys
When a try is being scrored and the ball carrier is running to the middle of the try zone , he is making the conversion kick easier to make, when a conversion kick is made, the ball is placed 25m from the goal line and straight back from where the ball was touched down.
5:53 you do that because where you touchdown the ball is how far left or right of the pitch the ball is gona be for a conversion (field goal, you get a chance at it after every touchdown) So if you touchdown in the middle, you have a straight shot for a conversion
When you score a try you have the option to kick a 'conversion' which i think is similar to a field goal. But the kick has to be taken in line with where the try was touched to the ground. So by turni g in the end zone before they touch down gives the knicker a straighter kick
There is a clip you can find which shows South African school rugby. Maybe you can react to that? I grew up playing that level of rugby at school. Some of those kids wre huge
When the ball is kicked forward, unless you are the person who kicked it, anyone else who goes to try and collect it must start behind the person who kicked it, otherwise you'd be offside.. After scoring a try (5 points), you then get to kick a conversion (2 points) which is taken in line with where the ball was placed when try was scored, so that is why they always try and get close to the posts..
... and to score a "try" (touch down) you have to actually touch the ball down - "player must be in control of the ball when it is grounded" ... if the opposition can get a hand under the ball or hold the scorer up somehow to prevent it from being "touched down" it is "no try". Plus you can only "hit/tackle" a player when that player is in possession of the ball.
They have to ground the ball in goal (the end zone) for it to be a try. After each try they have an opportunity to kick the ball through the posts for 2 extra points . So the closer to the posts the easier the conversion, turning a 5 point try into a 7 point converted try.
All kicks have to be taken in a line back from where the incident occurred. If that is a try then it's from where the ball touched the ground. If it's a penalty then it's in a line back from where the penalty offence occurred. The ball actually has to touch the ground for a try to be scored and the player must have control of the ball when it touches then ground. It is called a try because in the early days of the game the most important part of the game was scoring goals and a try allowed you to try for a shot at goal. You have to remember that Rugby derived from football (soccer) and so both the kicking and line outs are from that heritage.
"turning and keep running" When a Try is scored there is a "Conversion Kick" after (bit like a field goal in NFL Football) The kick is taken from 22 yards out level with where the ball was touched down for the Try So ideally you want to score the try as close to the central posts as possible so your "Conversion Kick" is as short a distance as possible, and straighter, and therefore a much easier kick
It's not taken from the 22 'METRES' line; it has no bearing on conversion kicks. The kicker decides the distance for the best angle within his kicking range and safe from being charged down..
Loving you guys discovering the monster that was Jonah Lomu. Shame this was just before the Six Nations tournament this year as I'd love to see the reaction to Duhan Van Der Merwe's try (or both tries) against England.
The reason the players run closer to the goal posts is bc after they score a try, they have to convert a kick about 15 meters away from the approximate spot the ball was placed
The ball must physically touch the ground in the touch area, where it touches the ground determines where the ball is placed for the conversion, clearly closest to the posts is best chance for a conversion.
They try to touch the ball down as near to the posts so that the conversion kick angle is easier (5 pts try conversion 2 more pts). They can do drop goals in open play 3pts, they get penalty goals 3pts.
Just to explain a little more on clips like [2:48] He was about to get pincered by two guys and had no way round, so he made himself ineligible to tackle by getting rid of the ball and also playing it forward, making progress down the pitch, now all he has to do is get it back in his team's possession before the other team grab it.
Rugby is like one big flea flicker play that doesn’t stop if you get put down. Obviously there are more rules to it, but best way to translate it haha the turn around after the try line to get closer to the posts, the conversion (PAT) is taken in line from where the ball is touched down. So if you by the sideline, the PAT is a really hard kick to make.
Rugby league and rugby Union are two versions of the sport with different rules, Rugby League translates better to the NFL, it’s like 5 attempts to get a score or hand the ball over.
If someone hasn't mentioned it yet, these are *not* the most sensational/athletic tries ever. BUT, they are nearly all of the most iconic tries in the modern era, with a few extra.
Back in 1986 in an infamously violent game between France and New Zealand known as the ‘Battle of Nantes’ a New Zealand flanker ( think linebacker ish ) had his scrotum split and a testicle hanging out in a tackle , he had it sewn up and returned to the field ( oh he lost 4 teeth in that same incident also ) Sadly he did not finish the game as he got knocked out cold in the 2nd half Buck Shelford was his name , an absolute legend
About protection,they're obviously wearing familly jewels caps and few of them those caps which keep their ears where they are supposed to be,while others just apply a generous ammount of petroleum gelly over their ears&nose to avoid grapping when the game becomes dirty
Once you cross the try line, the closer you get to the posts before you touch the ball to the ground gives you an easier conversion chance, as your conversion is in line where you ground the ball….
FYI. A rugby game consists of two forty minute halves with a ten minute half time break. There are no advertisement breaks, no time outs, except for injury (or death), no two minute warning, no special teams, no separate defensive or offensive teams, so no constantly changing personnel. You certainly don’t see players who are paid millions of dollars, sitting on the sideline, taking oxygen, after 15 seconds of play. Generally, the players who start the game, finish the game. To score “a try” the ball has to physically be touched down and not just cross the plane of the line. The “conversion” points, kick after a try, is taken in line with where the ball is grounded, hence the reason why players attempt to to score as near to the posts as possible (giving the kicker an easier attempt. The ball can be passed backwards (laterally) between players. The ball can be kicked forward (by any player) at any time. There are differences between the two codes (Union & League) but time & space don’t allow me to explain them all. You may also be interested in watching Australian Rules Football which is essentially a combination of Rugby & Gaelic football with a unique set of rules and can be very hard hitting. Cheers, a British Packers fan.
The reason we run more towards the middle after a try is because wherever you touch the ball down is the angle you have to kick posts from, closer to the middle is an easier kick through the posts!
If you look at some of those older clips, you can see how the players are much heavier since the game went fully professional. Also, you missed the greatest try of all...Barbarians v All Blacks 1972..or 73. Gareth Edwards.
Why did they turn on the end zone? Because they try, which is equivalent to a touchdown has to be in contact with a player in the ground at the same time, you can’t just slam it down on the floor. You have to be in contact with it the entire time, after you score, a try you get a “conversion”, which is a field cake for next couple of pints, but is horizontally in line with where the ball was touched down so it’s better to get it closer to the goal. Sellafield kicker hasn’t easier job at converting it and getting an extra couple of points. 5 points for a try, 2 points for a follow up conversion making total. 3 points for in an-game field goal.. so if you want your 5 point try be converted to 7 it’s better to touchdown central to the goal so the kicker has an easier job.
The reason why they are turning is to make sure there is someone from their team close by so they can try throw the ball in a way the other team mate will be able to catch it and run forward.
"The only way you can throw it forward is by kicking" "That's one thing I know". Throw - Verb, to propel something with force through the air by a movement of the arm and hand.
@CityBoysHQ The last man to score is Beauden Barrett. He is one of three brothers currently playing for the New Zealand All Blacks, one of the pre-eminent national Rugby sides in the world. There are many highlight videos of just him. Another New Zealand player you commented on (you wanted to recruit him for the NY Giants) is the late great Jonah Lomu, possibly one of the most gifted rugby players of all time. He was approached by more than one NFL team, but preferred to play Rugby. He died of renal disease in 2015, aged just 40. He was a human highlight reel, apart from his many other qualities, and there is a video entitled Lord of the Wings on youtube which you should check out. You note the build of many of these players. You should take a look at Marika Koroibete. Many players in Rugby could be described a muscle with eyes, Marika is a bone with eyes. I have never seen a harder human.
What you wouldn't have picked up with the fist clip, is the score, and the time on the clock. The red on the clock means time's up and the next stoppage will end the game. The score was Ireland 27, the All Blacks 22. The try was worth 5 points to tie the sore in extra time, with the conversion (2 points) still to happen. The Irish moved to early to charge down the conversion kick which missed, but due to the early charge, they could retake the kick. The second kick went over, All Blacks 29 : Ireland 27 about 4 minutes into extra time. As a Kiwi, I could hardly breathe watching it!
After getting past the Try Line (end zone) they must touch the ball down to score a try, whereas an American touchdown doesn’t have to be touched down! A Try is 5 points, and you are then given a chance to kick for an extra 2 points by kicking the ball the ball through the posts. But unlike American football where the place kick is always positioned directly in front of the posts, in rugby the kicking position is related to where the ball was touched down for a try! So that is why you see players going over the try line, but not simply touching down. They try to get as close to the posts as possible to make the conversion kick attempt easier for their kicker.
A try is worth 5 points, and is similar to your touchdown except that you actually need to touch the ball on the ground under control. After a try is scored the scoring team kicks a "conversion" worth 2 points. This is kinda like bonus points after the try I guess, and the kick is taken in line with where the try was scored. So the further towards the sidelines, the more difficult the kick. Therefore given the opportunity try scorers will try to score as close to the center of the field as possible, or under the posts as it's commonly known.
As someone from the town of Rugby where this sport was invented, I feel I must chip in here! 😅RE: why the players run towards the centre of the try-scoring zone. A try is worth 5 points. After every try, there is a "conversion" opportunity for an additional 2 points, where you have to kick the ball between the top two posts (above the middle line of "H"), from anywhere in a vertical line with where the try was scored. If the try is scored near the edge of the pitch, the conversion kick taker would have to place it really far away to make a reasonable angle, whereas if it's close to the centre the kick can be taken much closer which is, of course, much easier to do.
I've noticed something , in Europe when we speak of athleticism the focus tends to be more on speed agility and in the US its strength and power, just something I have noticed culturally
Yes. The last thing people like Will Skelton or Mathieu Bastareaud were called was “athletic”. Big, powerful, explosive etc. But not athletic. I think the nature of football and rugby is far more endurance based. Being able to run a lot is a bare minimum and if you can’t do that, you’re not considered athletic.
Modern rugby is all about power now though. Like you need all of it and forwards are so much more agile and and quick now but the forwards and backs are all so much more powerful and in shape now, the collisions in the modern game are just ridiculous
@@Dreyno When he was at Sarries and they got him down to about 18st ( 252lb 120kgs) Skelton was even better. The French prefer their players as big as possible, so he banged all the weight back on.
I played rugby in South Africa since my early teens and loved every moment. Penalties you pay in later life as a result of the physicality of the game do pop up of course. An opponent and I had a head on at full bore chasing a high ball which laid us both out. The rules are stricter now and many less guys are carried off. You are right in saying muscles serve as protection. I also enjoyed football (soccer) but the exaggerated drama of lesser injury turned me away, but you can have a laugh, lots of videos on YT... Thanks for the entertainment guys! Oh yes, South Africa (Springboks) are playing New Zealand (All Blacks) in the rugby world cup finals in a few days, be sure to watch, both are amazing tough and skillful teams.
The reason it’s called a try is because it’s a try for goal. Originally points were only scored in rugby when you kicked the ball between the posts and the kick was taken in a line from where the ball was dotted down over the try line. As the ball got lighter so kicking became easier and the points value placed on kicks became less. Also the game you were watching originally would have been rugby League which is different sport to the one you’re watching which is Union.
the kick is taken from the spot in line with where you put the ball down in (the end zone) ironic coz ya dont have to touch down to score a touch down but you do to score a try, whch is called that because you get a try at goal (kick) try=5 kick=2 penelty kick or drop kick/ drop goal like a feaild goal =3
Once you score a try of worth 5 points you get to kick over the crossbar of the poles for an extra 2 points. It's easier to get the additional 2 points if you score closer to the poles. You kick from directly behind where the try was scored.
when you mentioned why did the player turn when in the goal area they are trying to score as close to the goal posts as possible for the conversion that will follow the try scored which adds two further points
I can’t believe the Barbarians try in 1973 against the All Blacks isn’t included! The greatest try of all time and brilliant commentary by Cliff Morgan. What a score! 😊 BTW .You’ll notice all the Bar Bar’s socks are different as they wear their club socks.
or the Try from the end of the earth at Eden Park against the All blacks in 94 or any of the Scotland tries from the epic Calcutta cup comeback a few years ago most of the tries on this video were pretty standard and far from special.
You have a mixture of Rugby League and Rugby Union here. The white kit with is usually England. The black kit is New Zealand, There was also South Africa and Australia. Check out the annual Six Nations competition. Superb. That England Ireland Scotland Wales France and Italy. First class.
"Why do sometimes they turn and keep running?". When the ball carrier crosses the TRY line, the TRY isn't scored yet until the ball is grounded ... that's 5 points. After a TRY is scored, the scoring team has an opportunity to score an extra 2 points from a CONVERSION. A CONVERSION is a place kick taken from the 22 yard line and in line from WHERE THE BALL WAS GROUNDED for the TRY ... to be kicked between the goal posts. So, if a ball carrier is about to score a TRY and he's nearer to the sides ... if he's smart enough (and it's safe to do so) he'll take the ball closer to the goal posts in the middle before he grounds it, so it's an easier shot for the kicker for the CONVERSION. A CONVERSION from the side is an ugly angle for the kicker to get between the goal posts. Note, there's still a risk to doing this ... since he hasn't grounded the ball, the ball is still alive and he can get tackled.
The conversion kick after the try (that adds 2 points) gets taken in line with where they touch the ball down. So the more towards the middle they touch the ball down the easier the kick would be..
Quick basics.. You can only pass the ball backward to someone level/or behind you, but you can kick the ball forward.
Johnny Wilkinson couldn't care less, that boi could kick.
and to add you can kick the ball forwards however if you kick it forwards, when it leaves the boot if ur tm8 is ahead of you they're offside
Bruh I was literally gonna comment all this for a little basic knowledge - I mean there are always a couple highlight reels these boys could watch - names come to mind such as the tuilagi brothers, Courtney lawes, Jonah lomu etc.
@@lillywhite2346 and he made rugby sooo boring to watch
@@AWSgraphics yeap
Number 11 is Jonah Lomu, the GOAT of rugby, you should 100% react to him, he's passed on now unfortunately.
The video is called Jonah Lomu, Lord of the Wings
I've said the same multiple times.
We have jonah lomu on our list! as you can imagine we get A LOT of reccomendations so its coming soon!
@@officialenri The respect shown at his funeral with diff hakas makes you emotional
@@cathyb46 awesome RIP jonah
I love Americans realising there's a whole other world out there than gets on just grand without them! Glad ye enjoyed the tries lads.
😂😂😂😂 they're clueless
what i love about rugby as an american, is that anyone can get a 'try' aka 'touchdown'. every player has their specialty and their own place on the field, but if an opportunity presents itself, any player can go for the glory. where as NFL is very much heavily compartmentalized and very specialized and they have their job and they must stick to that job. also the hot potatoe style of getting the ball to the try line and the acrobatics with the ball and choreography of the entire team to get it there, is one of the most satifsfying things. the build up to go from one end of the field to the other, is an amazing thing to see. being american i do love NFL, but my passion for rugby is just on another level and absolutely respect both sports.
They turn in the end zone so they have an easier conversion. The kick at goal after the try is in line with where they ground the ball when they score.
"In-goal" . "end zone" is gridiron
@@kiwishamoo6494 I know was trying to put it in American terms so they would know what I meant
Ball needs to go over the "Try Line" and it's best to get closer to the 2 posts in the centre of the field so it's easier for the kicker to kick a conversion. A conversion allows a team to get 2 more points after you score a "Try" by kicking between the posts.
One thing that normally gets neglected is the fact that Everyone in the team is running and supporting the one with the ball. When you are about to get tackled and you look back and you see your team mates behind you is quite empowering. Then you get tackled and you dont just lay there resting, you get up and start running to your position again to support your team.
I never found it empowering, I always thought, shit I hope one of those clowns is back there supporting me.
Then after the tackle I was OMG now i have to get back up else Im the clown.
Not only is the athleticism amazing, they do it for 80 minutes with a 10 minute break at half time. Some of those dudes weigh nearly 300lbs and they have to run like hell a lot of that time.
3:35 that was Jonah Lomu(RIP) , the man the words "beast mode" were invented for, you should watch his highlights
6'6", 265 lb, sub 11 second 100 meter times , dude was unstoppable
Dude used to eat a kilo of cornflakes for breakfast and 2 whole roast chickens for dinner in season. Beast.
Agreed, they need to watch Jonah Lomu - Lord of the Wings
*6'5"
*metre
He could run 10 metres faster than Usain Bolt.
@@Alan_Clark Yet was slower than Lesley "The Volcano" Vainikolo
I've never been much into ball sports but my old man, (rest his soul) being a Welshman LOVED rugby. So time spent with him at weekend visits would usually involve sitting in front of the fireplace in his cosy little cottage, with gin & tonics, him smoking a cuban and me smoking a joint, watching the rugby, with me 'pretending' to be into it so we can have more of a connection. But seeing these tries gave me goosebumps and brought a tear to my eye, as I know the old fella would of been up out of his seat shouting at the TV... truly it is an amazing game of skill and athleticism.
Eddie Butler died recently. He’d been the voice of rugby since Bill McLaren died. Won’t be the same watching the Six Nations without him.
All the men in the house had the living room for the rugby 🏉 no ladies allowed incase of bad language be we could hear them shouting at the TV
You're kidding. My nan was a sweet little old lady who raised 10 kids, and some of her grand kids played rugby. You should have heard her swear at the telly when the rugby was on! Lol!
I watched the Japan vs South Africa game at 11:05 live on TV. It just looks like a good try, but the last 10 minutes of that game were played incredibly well by Japan. Easily one of the best sporting moments I've ever watched.
I was stood up in my living room jumping up and down cheering for them, amazing result and game
Never knew they played, had to watch that again, japan so unrated in sports
@@harrynelson9203 Funny thing is, at the rugby world cup, Japan had only ever won one other match up to that point in their world cup history. Their second ever win being against the favourites of the competition.
@@mrdoogle5931 Hahahaha ohh nice, that’s 2 more then what i would’ve thought, if you’re gonna win, win against the favourites i guess, bet that shredded a few tears, i don’t watch rugby at all so i wouldn’t have a clue, i do love watching japan in the football world cups 👍🏻👌🏻
@@harrynelson9203 as a South African, that result hurt so much. We were never going to win that tournament though. We were horrible before it began. We did win the next world cup though, Funny enough the next world cup was held in Japan.
Just can't believe that Gareth Edwards try for the Barbarians vs The All Blacks never gets a look in when it comes to great tries. I could watch it over and over again.
The commentary by Cliff Morgan is as good as the try.
Me too, and I'm a self-confessed ABs tragic. Also, honourable mention to Jean-Luc Sadourny's 'try from the end of the world' against the ABs too. And there's probably a few now from Ireland that I've got a mental block about!
@@clivenewman4810 Considering that Cliff Morgan only got the call up to commentate the day of the match because Bill MClaren was taken ill.
remember their Americans , who never put this together as for the idiot who put this together , no accounting for taste
You're quite correct - there's amazing athleticism in Rugby Union (which is what you were watching). Rugby League is a quite different game and just as tough, but after each tackle there's a "play the ball" (where the tackled person basically rolls the ball back under his heels to a team mate), whereas in Union, EACH time a player is tackled (which includes having their progress impeded - they don't HAVE to be "grassed") the ball is contested in either a "ruck" (where the ball is on the ground) or a "maul" where the tackled player is held up off the ground - had his progress impeded.
Other than "out of bounds" or a penalty or some mistake like a "knock on", Rugby Union is flat out, NON STOP for 2 40 minute halves, so supreme fitness is required. even for minor level games. They do NOT stop for TV "ad breaks" and all that hoopla your game does.
It's very difficult in a few minutes typing to give you a proper precis of the game, but that's a start for you!
RL is Boring Northern Shiiiiite!
The closer to the middle they score the try, the easier the conversion kick is (after a try they take a kick aimed to be between the sticks called a conversion for extra points). It's easier because it's taken closer to the middle of the sticks which means it's also closer
After a player scores a try(touchdown) there is a conversion kick for an extra 2 points. This is 20 metres from the try line perpendicular to where the ball was grounded.
The scorers continue to run around the posts rather than grounding ball ASAP to give a better angle for the conversion kick.
Watch the final of Rugby World Cup 2019 between the Springboks (South Africa) and The Roses (England) to see what UNION rugby is all about. The Boks won and are the reigning champions until the next World Cup in 2023. In fact, the Springboks have the best record at RWC (played every four years), having won the title three times since their first participation in 1995, having not participated in the first two events because of politics. The All Blacks (New Zealand), have also won it three times, but have played in all events since the first one in 1987, two events more than the Mighty Springboks.
Jona Lomu is the goat of rugby. Only every played at 80% due to illness, sadly passed away way to soon. Check him out, im an england fan but he alone putbus on our arse while raising all fans to the feet in Awre. Legend. , also check out the giant slayer from Australia!
The clip near the end where the side in red and white striped jerseys score is from the game where Japan, whose team were probably 25-30 pounds a man lighter than their opponents, South Africa, won the greatest victory in the history of the game. They were 500 to 1 outsiders. I watched the whole game in disbelief, my only regret was not betting on the Japanese.
My regret was not buying tickets for what was for me a local game (Brighton) in the 2015 World Cup. I thought it would be too one-sided for South Africa!
I think William Hill had 1000-1. Some nz Co. was running a comp where you picked the winner for every game and only winners went through to next game. Was meant to be built up to final... Only 1 person left in comp after this game and he picked japan by mistake
I think you would enjoy watching the New Zealand team doing the Haka which they perform before every match, there is a video of one that was performed in memory of Jonah Lomu the tank that ran over the England player in this clip which is very emotional, also unlike football the referees are shown much greater respect in both forms of Rugby a good example of which is Nigel Owens who also came out whilst still officiating the games
We have Major League Rugby (MLR) in America, since 2018 I think, Seattle had won the first two years iirc, Rugby New York won the final this year, and for the new season Chicago just got a team, the Chicago Hounders I think they’re called
As an Englishman it pains me, but Brian O’driscoll (BOD) is pound for pound the best Rugby player skill wise . Just unfortunate not to always have the supporting talent around him.
@2:53 This was my favorite rugby player of all time. His name is Shane Williams he played for my country Wales, and his pace and footwork wore next to none! Would love to see a reaction to a Shane Williams compilation or alternatively a Jonah Lomu compilation, Jonah was possibly the best rugby player ever
Best rugby player ever? Jonah Lomu 100% up there, but would offer up Gareth Edwards and Barry John… what do you think?
@@ewan_GTO didn't even think about gazza or bazza, good calls!
@@ewan_GTO Lomu most destructive runner ever - others were more skilled, some won more .
The New Zealand perform the Hakka before every match ... that is a sight to see ...
When you score a try in rugby you have to actually touch the ball to the ground (not just run into the zone). It used to be a rule in American Football, too. That's where you guys get the term "touchdown".
After you score a try you then get a chance to score more points by kicking the ball between the posts (a conversion). The reason they turn and run further in the end zone is because where they place the ball down determines the angle of the conversion kick so, if they have time and space, they will place it down for a try in a more beneficial position in the end zone.
Rugby players are tanks for sure but their main attribute is stamina. They do so much high speed running in a game it’s insane
Current players to watch is Ardie Savea, Cheslin Kolbe, Michael Hooper, Lokhayo Am, Bauden Barrett, Antoine Dupont, Romaine Ntamack, Eben Etzebeth. Monster players of the past the goat Jonah Lomu, Brian Habana, Johnny Wilkinson, Daniel Carter, Pierre Spies, Bakkies Botha, Duane Vermeulen (Thor), Schalk Burger, Richie McCaw, Sonny Bill Williams
There are two 'branches' of rugby; Rugby Union (played 15-a-side and the original 'modern' form) and Rugby League (13-a-side); both originated in England in the 19th century. You mentioned "Wigan"; that is a Rugby League club; Union is by far the most widely played in the World and all the clips in this video were of Rugby Union; either Club or International games.
There is also a really fast Union game called Rugby 7s
@@louisekullar6629 Of course; seven-a-side and two seven-minute halves.
Rugby League was where the American Football grow out of. Teddy Roosevelt looked to ban the sport because of the violence.
A kick is the forward pass.
A player must be held in tackle to be down.
At that point only the team with the ball can play it.
Exception are to detailed to cover.
No knee down stops play. Forward momentum across try line.
So score a try by touching ball down is still in NFL rule book. Breaking the plane was added. Hence Touchdown.
The tackling player is responsible for the safety of a player in the air.
Any contact above the shoulders is a foul. Sitting out 10 minutes. Playing down a player for the rest of the match.
Possible sanctions by the international/ regional governing body.
Check the weight and height of Sam Whitelock NZ. The guy getting lifted.
Don't watch any American Football after I found rugby union and 7s.
@@willcityaway7971 Why are telling me this?
That’s why the tries weren’t as good
the reason they keep running after they cross the try line before touching the ball down for a try is because after a try you get the chance to kick a conversion this gives you 2 extra points. for a conversion they have to kick the bal, off the ground over the posts, like a field goal in American football the difference being they have to take the conversion kick from opposite where the try was scored so if the player can score the try behind the posts the conversion is much easier than kicking it from the side of the field
Cheers boys! welcome to Rugby, one of the great international sports. Rugby is a big part of our New Zealand culture as well as other countries. Rugby is safer than football, but it's harder. Just remember rugby is almost non-stop.
When they score a try the conversion ( kick for extra two points ) gets taken inline with where they score the try, so running closer to the posts in the end zone makes it a easier task for the kicker
"They turn and keep running" to get as close to goal posts as possible as after scoring try (T.D.) worth 5 pts, the team gets a "conversion", which is a place kick on the 22 yard line (22 yards from try line aka endzone) and inline with where the ball was touched down. Directly in front of posts shortest distance and easiest kick, worth 2 points... so a converted try is worth 5 + 2pts for 7 total... penalty kicks for foul play worth 3 pts and kicked from place penalty/foul occurred ... Rugby is an epic game to play and support. And good news for you boys, the US is an emerging power in rugby. Watch the world cup! (Shout for Ireland, we'll make your dreams come true- world rank #1 but have never made a RWC semii-final!) Foreal, USA Rugby deserves your support.
So the first vid you guys watched was Rugby League and this is Rugby Union. They are are different forms of the game.
And Union is the far better version if the game .😁
I think the keeping on running in the endzone is just managing their velocity and deciding where to fall. They look around to see if anyone is still trying to tackle them so that it's safe to dive or lean down.
No, it determines where the conversion is taken from. A conversion is a kick taken after a try is scored and is worth two points in addition to the five points awarded for a try. Other kicks can be taken when a team concedes a penalty. The penalty kick is worth three points but must be taken where the infringement occurred on the field. Some teams have players in their side that can kick a ball off the tee 60+ metres, so a team attacking that gives away a penalty, can often end up conceding three points, even though they are on attack and in the opponent's half.
A couple of fun facts which most people in the US might not know. 1.) The USA Eagles Rugby team was the only side to score a try against Australia in the pool stages of the 1999 RWC. 2.) The USA Eagles have competed in every RWC bar the initial 1987, and now unfortunately the next instalment in France. Portugal have beaten the US and have taken their spot.
After a touch down there is a place kick called a conversion. Unlike grid iron the kick is taken perpendicular to the exact spot the ball is touched down, not right in front. The place kick, to score more points, has to go over the goals crossbar, so the player will run to get as close to under the goals as possible to make the placekickers job easier and to guarantee extra points. 5 points for the try 2 points for the conversion.
They run towards the middle of the posts (whenever they can), because where you touch the ball down determines where you kick your conversion (what you would call an extra point). In American football, you kick the extra point from the centre of the field, even is the touchdown is scored near the side lines. In rugby, you kick the conversion from where the 'try' is scored, so if you touch the ball down near the side lines, you kick from near the sidelines. The more central you touch the ball down, the easier the kick etc
After the ball is put down , the ball is then an followed attempted to add to the score by converting, kicking it between the posts. The position the ball is placed for that kick is directly parallel with where it was touched down. So the closer to the posts the easier i is to convert. Diving to touch down is theatrical, but has the thought that once airborne you cannot be pulled back, or have the ball removed.
They turn so they are nearer to the middle of the posts, or uprights, so when the kicker goes for the conversion kick after the try it is easier for them than if they were out wide. This is because after a try we get to try and kick the ball between the posts from a standing uncontested kick. The ball must be placed inline with where the try was scored so obviously its harder if your out on the wings, as even right infront of the posts the kick is taken 12 meters from the try line, so with the added distance and angle it's much harder.
where the ball is placed behind the "Try line" is where the conversion is taken from. So to kick for extra points its easier to do it in front of the posts then out on the wing.
5:50 the reason he turns in to score closer to the posts is because the conversation attempt(kick) for the try he just scored MUST be in line with where the ball is grounded as he scores the try. You can go as far forward/backward as you want to, but you MUST stay in line with that position which the referee spots and shows. Thus meaning the closer you score to the posts, the wider the angle and easier it is for the goal kicker to score the conversion.
Remember that in rugby you have to touch the ball on the floor for you to score, you then get a chance to kick for an extra 2 points directly from where the ball was touched down on the grass
Watching Christen Cullen still gives me chills.
After a try (touchdown) there is a conversion kick for extra points. The conversion kick is taken directly out from where the ball was placed on the ground during the try. So the nearer to the center that the ball is placed on the ground the easier it is to kick the ball through the two upright poles in the center. If the ball is placed on the ground at the far left or right, then the conversion kick is taken from the far left or right making it harder to get between the two upright poles in the center.
There are 3 ways to score by kicking the ball...First you can score a drop goal - this is when you kick the ball in open play between the posts and above the crossbar, Second...if you are awarded a penalty, or Third... after a Try the scoring team gets an opportunity to convert the Try by kicking the ball between the posts.
5:47 Reason why they keep running into the middle even tho they are already in the try area is because, where ever the ball is placed, that's where the kicker has to line up to take a shot for a conversion. So they they try to run in a little more to the middle to make the kickers job a tad easier.
The PAT (called a conversion) is kicked in line from where the ball is put down in the ‘end zone’ - so if it’s on the edge of the field you have kick the PAT from the edge of the field, if it’s in the middle it’s kicked from the middle. It’s worth 2 points instead of 1 though
You kick the "Conversion" goal after a try for an extra 2 points and you kick it from the "North South" line in the field where the try is scored, so if you can score it under the posts you have a better chance of getting the extra points via the conversion goal. For exampe those tries scored near the corner have their conversion goals needing to be kicked from right out there on the sideline, so its much harder. In a game where a single point is very often crucial, getting the Goals is how you win games.
If you want to watch a fantastic game, watch the final of the Womens World Cup, played at Eden Park, Auckland, New Zealand by the two top teams. Clean, fast, technically wonderful. The skill levels are fkn AMAZING!!
100% agree. Also the NZ v France game was probably even a touch better. Women's 7'si thought was so much better but those 2 games were out of this world for the girls. & RIP Jonah Lomu.
No
Depending on where the ball is grounded for the try depends on the angle of where the conversion kick is taken.
Eg.Try grounded under the goal post's =conversion taken from directly in front of the goal post's. The further the try is grounded away from the goal post's = the harder the conversion kick angle needed to be taken.Much different when compared to an American football extra point conversion kick.
Back in the 70's I saw Australia play Western Samoa. The Samoan's tackling was completely legal. It's just that the Australians took their time getting back on their feet after some of those tackles. I have never seen anything like it, before or since. In the match programme (,this was when rugby was an amateur game) one of the Samoans occupations was given as "Piano Mover". Immense.
Peter Fatialofa. Most famous piano mover in nz (from Samoa of course but lived in Auckland)
But probably 80s
@@rahowherox1177 Never in my wildest dreams did I think to hear his name again! The Internet, will it never cease to surprise?
Ellerry Hanley greatest player the uk had JONAH LOMU was an incredible man HIGHLY RECOMMEND watching his Funeral, and Understanding wat he meant over there his HAKA TRIBUTE IS EMOTIONAL
REACT TO MORE RUGBY !
When scoring a TRY, the Conversion (PAT Attempt) kick will be placed perpendicular to where the ball was placed. Hence why players usually would try to score as close to the middle of the "End Zone" / "Try Area" for a better placed attempt at goal. Otherwise in the event of a penalty, the attempt would be from the point of infringement.
New sub from NZ - Good shit boys
When a try is being scrored and the ball carrier is running to the middle of the try zone , he is making the conversion kick easier to make, when a conversion kick is made, the ball is placed 25m from the goal line and straight back from where the ball was touched down.
5:53 you do that because where you touchdown the ball is how far left or right of the pitch the ball is gona be for a conversion (field goal, you get a chance at it after every touchdown)
So if you touchdown in the middle, you have a straight shot for a conversion
When you score a try you have the option to kick a 'conversion' which i think is similar to a field goal. But the kick has to be taken in line with where the try was touched to the ground. So by turni g in the end zone before they touch down gives the knicker a straighter kick
There is a clip you can find which shows South African school rugby. Maybe you can react to that? I grew up playing that level of rugby at school. Some of those kids wre huge
When the ball is kicked forward, unless you are the person who kicked it, anyone else who goes to try and collect it must start behind the person who kicked it, otherwise you'd be offside.. After scoring a try (5 points), you then get to kick a conversion (2 points) which is taken in line with where the ball was placed when try was scored, so that is why they always try and get close to the posts..
"The only way you can throw it forward is by kicking."
Kicking is not throwing.
... and to score a "try" (touch down) you have to actually touch the ball down - "player must be in control of the ball when it is grounded" ... if the opposition can get a hand under the ball or hold the scorer up somehow to prevent it from being "touched down" it is "no try". Plus you can only "hit/tackle" a player when that player is in possession of the ball.
They have to ground the ball in goal (the end zone) for it to be a try. After each try they have an opportunity to kick the ball through the posts for 2 extra points . So the closer to the posts the easier the conversion, turning a 5 point try into a 7 point converted try.
Player’s to react to: Faf de Klerk, the giant slayer. Jonah Lomu, greatest ever player. Joe Marler, just because he’s bat shit crazy.
All kicks have to be taken in a line back from where the incident occurred. If that is a try then it's from where the ball touched the ground. If it's a penalty then it's in a line back from where the penalty offence occurred. The ball actually has to touch the ground for a try to be scored and the player must have control of the ball when it touches then ground. It is called a try because in the early days of the game the most important part of the game was scoring goals and a try allowed you to try for a shot at goal. You have to remember that Rugby derived from football (soccer) and so both the kicking and line outs are from that heritage.
The posts come into play for point scoring with conversions after scoring a try ( try = 5 points, conversion = 2 points) , penalties and drop goals.
"turning and keep running"
When a Try is scored there is a "Conversion Kick" after (bit like a field goal in NFL Football)
The kick is taken from 22 yards out level with where the ball was touched down for the Try
So ideally you want to score the try as close to the central posts as possible so your "Conversion Kick" is as short a distance as possible, and straighter, and therefore a much easier kick
It's not taken from the 22 'METRES' line; it has no bearing on conversion kicks. The kicker decides the distance for the best angle within his kicking range and safe from being charged down..
RIP Jonah. Always missed.
5:50 The conversion kick is taken in line with where the try was scored. So the closer to the center, the easier the conversion will be.
Loving you guys discovering the monster that was Jonah Lomu. Shame this was just before the Six Nations tournament this year as I'd love to see the reaction to Duhan Van Der Merwe's try (or both tries) against England.
The reason the players run closer to the goal posts is bc after they score a try, they have to convert a kick about 15 meters away from the approximate spot the ball was placed
The ball must physically touch the ground in the touch area, where it touches the ground determines where the ball is placed for the conversion, clearly closest to the posts is best chance for a conversion.
They try to touch the ball down as near to the posts so that the conversion kick angle is easier (5 pts try conversion 2 more pts).
They can do drop goals in open play 3pts, they get penalty goals 3pts.
Just to explain a little more on clips like [2:48] He was about to get pincered by two guys and had no way round, so he made himself ineligible to tackle by getting rid of the ball and also playing it forward, making progress down the pitch, now all he has to do is get it back in his team's possession before the other team grab it.
Rugby is like one big flea flicker play that doesn’t stop if you get put down. Obviously there are more rules to it, but best way to translate it haha the turn around after the try line to get closer to the posts, the conversion (PAT) is taken in line from where the ball is touched down. So if you by the sideline, the PAT is a really hard kick to make.
Rugby league and rugby Union are two versions of the sport with different rules, Rugby League translates better to the NFL, it’s like 5 attempts to get a score or hand the ball over.
If someone hasn't mentioned it yet, these are *not* the most sensational/athletic tries ever. BUT, they are nearly all of the most iconic tries in the modern era, with a few extra.
Back in 1986 in an infamously violent game between France and New Zealand known as the ‘Battle of Nantes’ a New Zealand flanker ( think linebacker ish ) had his scrotum split and a testicle hanging out in a tackle , he had it sewn up and returned to the field ( oh he lost 4 teeth in that same incident also )
Sadly he did not finish the game as he got knocked out cold in the 2nd half
Buck Shelford was his name , an absolute legend
What a load of bollock ! Oof.
@@spanishpeaches2930 no it isnt just because you dont want to believe it - that story is well known idiot
@@bodybalanceU2 ...and you are too stupid to understand that it was an obvious joke....swooosh.
@@spanishpeaches2930 👏
About protection,they're obviously wearing familly jewels caps and few of them those caps which keep their ears where they are supposed to be,while others just apply a generous ammount of petroleum gelly over their ears&nose to avoid grapping when the game becomes dirty
Once you cross the try line, the closer you get to the posts before you touch the ball to the ground gives you an easier conversion chance, as your conversion is in line where you ground the ball….
FYI. A rugby game consists of two forty minute halves with a ten minute half time break. There are no advertisement breaks, no time outs, except for injury (or death), no two minute warning, no special teams, no separate defensive or offensive teams, so no constantly changing personnel. You certainly don’t see players who are paid millions of dollars, sitting on the sideline, taking oxygen, after 15 seconds of play.
Generally, the players who start the game, finish the game. To score “a try” the ball has to physically be touched down and not just cross the plane of the line. The “conversion” points, kick after a try, is taken in line with where the ball is grounded, hence the reason why players attempt to to score as near to the posts as possible (giving the kicker an easier attempt.
The ball can be passed backwards (laterally) between players. The ball can be kicked forward (by any player) at any time.
There are differences between the two codes (Union & League) but time & space don’t allow me to explain them all.
You may also be interested in watching Australian Rules Football which is essentially a combination of Rugby & Gaelic football with a unique set of rules and can be very hard hitting. Cheers, a British Packers fan.
The reason we run more towards the middle after a try is because wherever you touch the ball down is the angle you have to kick posts from, closer to the middle is an easier kick through the posts!
If you look at some of those older clips, you can see how the players are much heavier since the game went fully professional. Also, you missed the greatest try of all...Barbarians v All Blacks 1972..or 73. Gareth Edwards.
Yes that try is amazing.
Why did they turn on the end zone? Because they try, which is equivalent to a touchdown has to be in contact with a player in the ground at the same time, you can’t just slam it down on the floor. You have to be in contact with it the entire time, after you score, a try you get a “conversion”, which is a field cake for next couple of pints, but is horizontally in line with where the ball was touched down so it’s better to get it closer to the goal. Sellafield kicker hasn’t easier job at converting it and getting an extra couple of points.
5 points for a try, 2 points for a follow up conversion making total. 3 points for in an-game field goal.. so if you want your 5 point try be converted to 7 it’s better to touchdown central to the goal so the kicker has an easier job.
South Africa is the most physical team and current world champions. Called the Springboks.. check them out👌
The reason why they are turning is to make sure there is someone from their team close by so they can try throw the ball in a way the other team mate will be able to catch it and run forward.
"The only way you can throw it forward is by kicking" "That's one thing I know". Throw - Verb, to propel something with force through the air by a movement of the arm and hand.
@CityBoysHQ The last man to score is Beauden Barrett. He is one of three brothers currently playing for the New Zealand All Blacks, one of the pre-eminent national Rugby sides in the world. There are many highlight videos of just him. Another New Zealand player you commented on (you wanted to recruit him for the NY Giants) is the late great Jonah Lomu, possibly one of the most gifted rugby players of all time. He was approached by more than one NFL team, but preferred to play Rugby. He died of renal disease in 2015, aged just 40. He was a human highlight reel, apart from his many other qualities, and there is a video entitled Lord of the Wings on youtube which you should check out.
You note the build of many of these players. You should take a look at Marika Koroibete. Many players in Rugby could be described a muscle with eyes, Marika is a bone with eyes. I have never seen a harder human.
They aim for under the post so when you kick you can kick from directly in front instead of the other side of the feild loved this reaction
I love how so many of these great tries are jonah lomu destroying everyone haha, what a player
What you wouldn't have picked up with the fist clip, is the score, and the time on the clock. The red on the clock means time's up and the next stoppage will end the game. The score was Ireland 27, the All Blacks 22. The try was worth 5 points to tie the sore in extra time, with the conversion (2 points) still to happen. The Irish moved to early to charge down the conversion kick which missed, but due to the early charge, they could retake the kick. The second kick went over, All Blacks 29 : Ireland 27 about 4 minutes into extra time. As a Kiwi, I could hardly breathe watching it!
After getting past the Try Line (end zone) they must touch the ball down to score a try, whereas an American touchdown doesn’t have to be touched down!
A Try is 5 points, and you are then given a chance to kick for an extra 2 points by kicking the ball the ball through the posts. But unlike American football where the place kick is always positioned directly in front of the posts, in rugby the kicking position is related to where the ball was touched down for a try!
So that is why you see players going over the try line, but not simply touching down. They try to get as close to the posts as possible to make the conversion kick attempt easier for their kicker.
A try is worth 5 points, and is similar to your touchdown except that you actually need to touch the ball on the ground under control. After a try is scored the scoring team kicks a "conversion" worth 2 points. This is kinda like bonus points after the try I guess, and the kick is taken in line with where the try was scored. So the further towards the sidelines, the more difficult the kick. Therefore given the opportunity try scorers will try to score as close to the center of the field as possible, or under the posts as it's commonly known.
there were so many of these tries that didn't seem "so great" but the greatness of them is it was in the final minute to win it for their team
As someone from the town of Rugby where this sport was invented, I feel I must chip in here! 😅RE: why the players run towards the centre of the try-scoring zone.
A try is worth 5 points. After every try, there is a "conversion" opportunity for an additional 2 points, where you have to kick the ball between the top two posts (above the middle line of "H"), from anywhere in a vertical line with where the try was scored.
If the try is scored near the edge of the pitch, the conversion kick taker would have to place it really far away to make a reasonable angle, whereas if it's close to the centre the kick can be taken much closer which is, of course, much easier to do.
I've noticed something , in Europe when we speak of athleticism the focus tends to be more on speed agility and in the US its strength and power, just something I have noticed culturally
Depends on the sport you're talking about I guess.
Yes. The last thing people like Will Skelton or Mathieu Bastareaud were called was “athletic”. Big, powerful, explosive etc. But not athletic. I think the nature of football and rugby is far more endurance based. Being able to run a lot is a bare minimum and if you can’t do that, you’re not considered athletic.
Modern rugby is all about power now though. Like you need all of it and forwards are so much more agile and and quick now but the forwards and backs are all so much more powerful and in shape now, the collisions in the modern game are just ridiculous
@@bremCZ For my generation "athlete" generally seemed to mean competitors in what the US calls 'Track and field.'
@@Dreyno When he was at Sarries and they got him down to about 18st ( 252lb 120kgs) Skelton was even better. The French prefer their players as big as possible, so he banged all the weight back on.
I played rugby in South Africa since my early teens and loved every moment. Penalties you pay in later life as a result of the physicality of the game do pop up of course. An opponent and I had a head on at full bore chasing a high ball which laid us both out. The rules are stricter now and many less guys are carried off. You are right in saying muscles serve as protection. I also enjoyed football (soccer) but the exaggerated drama of lesser injury turned me away, but you can have a laugh, lots of videos on YT... Thanks for the entertainment guys! Oh yes, South Africa (Springboks) are playing New Zealand (All Blacks) in the rugby world cup finals in a few days, be sure to watch, both are amazing tough and skillful teams.
The reason it’s called a try is because it’s a try for goal. Originally points were only scored in rugby when you kicked the ball between the posts and the kick was taken in a line from where the ball was dotted down over the try line. As the ball got lighter so kicking became easier and the points value placed on kicks became less.
Also the game you were watching originally would have been rugby League which is different sport to the one you’re watching which is Union.
the kick is taken from the spot in line with where you put the ball down in (the end zone)
ironic coz ya dont have to touch down to score a touch down
but you do to score a try, whch is called that because you get a try at goal (kick)
try=5 kick=2
penelty kick or drop kick/ drop goal like a feaild goal =3
Once you score a try of worth 5 points you get to kick over the crossbar of the poles for an extra 2 points. It's easier to get the additional 2 points if you score closer to the poles. You kick from directly behind where the try was scored.
when you mentioned why did the player turn when in the goal area they are trying to score as close to the goal posts as possible for the conversion that will follow the try scored which adds two further points
I can’t believe the Barbarians try in 1973 against the All Blacks isn’t included! The greatest try of all time and brilliant commentary by Cliff Morgan. What a score! 😊
BTW .You’ll notice all the Bar Bar’s socks are different as they wear their club socks.
This was a heavy SH video
Probably because of the forward pass.
or the Try from the end of the earth at Eden Park against the All blacks in 94 or any of the Scotland tries from the epic Calcutta cup comeback a few years ago most of the tries on this video were pretty standard and far from special.
You have a mixture of Rugby League and Rugby Union here. The white kit with is usually England. The black kit is New Zealand, There was also South Africa and Australia.
Check out the annual Six Nations competition. Superb. That England Ireland Scotland Wales France and Italy. First class.
You should react to best of Nigel Owens. Most respected rugby referee ever
"Why do sometimes they turn and keep running?".
When the ball carrier crosses the TRY line, the TRY isn't scored yet until the ball is grounded ... that's 5 points. After a TRY is scored, the scoring team has an opportunity to score an extra 2 points from a CONVERSION. A CONVERSION is a place kick taken from the 22 yard line and in line from WHERE THE BALL WAS GROUNDED for the TRY ... to be kicked between the goal posts. So, if a ball carrier is about to score a TRY and he's nearer to the sides ... if he's smart enough (and it's safe to do so) he'll take the ball closer to the goal posts in the middle before he grounds it, so it's an easier shot for the kicker for the CONVERSION. A CONVERSION from the side is an ugly angle for the kicker to get between the goal posts. Note, there's still a risk to doing this ... since he hasn't grounded the ball, the ball is still alive and he can get tackled.
The closer the ball is put down towards the goalposts makes it easier for the kicker to convert the try.