Toyota Corolla E70 Drift. Is the KE70 good for drifting? (TE71, AE71, AE70, KE74, TE70, TE72...)
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- Опубліковано 6 січ 2022
- The Corolla E70 was the fourth generation of cars sold by Toyota under the Corolla nameplate. It was for sale between 1979 and 1987. This Corolla was offered in all body styles: two-door Sedan, four-door Sedan, two-door Hardtop Coupé, three-door Coupé, and three-door Liftback Coupé.The engines were not powerful in this Corolla, they all had 4 cylinder naturally aspirated engines with displacement from 1.3L to 1.8L but the weight of the car is low, so drifting is possible. Also engine swaps are popular for this model, like the legendary 4AGE.
All models had Rear-wheel drive configuration, very similar chassis to the AE86. This Toyota is lightweight, but it also has a short wheelbase and it has a solid rear axle. These traits mean that its handling at the limit is quite twitchy. The driver needs to have quick hands and a really good sense for weight transfer in order to drift it successfully.
Power is low, making it difficult to get sideways and harder to keep sideways in drift compared to more powerful cars, such as a Silvia.
These traits make the AE86 and E70 excellent first drift cars. This car communicates well with the driver and will punish you for your mistakes but means that you learn fast.
Most people who learn to drift in a Corolla don’t rely so heavily on the handbrake or the power to get them through a course. They can balance their car using weight transfer, commitment, and braking. They tend to have much more full throttle, low exit angle and high intensity driving styles.
As you learn to drive, you can learn to be a mechanic too as they have a simple mechanic-friendly design. Also light weight means lower wear on parts, including tires.
Also the E70 Corollas are much cheaper than the AE86. If you want similar handling for a fraction of the price, the E70 is a good alternative.
They are rare to see in competition these days as they have an old suspension design that does not generate much grip. But they are fun cars to drive and can be found on track days with smiling drivers behind the wheel. KE 70 カローラ ドリフト #Drift #Drifting #KE70 KE70 TE71 AE71 AE70 KE74 TE70 TE72 - Авто та транспорт
It's basically the same as an AE86. Just cooler looking imo. I own one myself with a 4AGZE swap. So much fun.
My understanding is the floor pans are basically identical, pretty much down to the spot welds. Just watched a video that briefly talked about a guy using an ae86 rear floor section in a ke70 van/wagon to get rid of the leaf springs and have 4 link rear.
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I had the same conversion, map sensored 4agze with a pulley kit on the super charger, I ended up running a turbo, and it was the easiest car to drift i've driven, I did change the diff to a LSD, a Ford Borg Warner diff and a celica gear box I also upgrade the suspension, when I put it on the dyno I ended up with 285 rw kw, because the car was so light you couldn't blow the diff or the gear box no matter how hard you tried
I got a lot of the parts for the conversion from a ae71 corolla, it had all the parts I needed to make it a straight forward Bolt on conversion.
I miss my corollas, I had ke20 with a fully worked 5k in it, stock ke20 that was in amazing condition but my favourite by far was the KE70 with a 4agze conversion,
@@tonyallen8626how was the handling for drifting? is it better than e36??
The clutch kick on em has a sound all its own 🤌
Cool video. 3:09-3:35min is me 👍
Those 4 age engines sound magnificent 🤌
My first time street drifting back 15 years ago was in TE72 wagon, took it out on a rainy night. Has been my favorite corolla chassis since. Still have the '81 wagon but added a '82 sedan since and on the lookout for more!
I love this channel
Those drivers are amazing 😮😊
nice drift... and drive
Awesome.. I like this video ❤️
(Real men ride oldskool corolla KE70)
All of the lighter old Toyota RWD's are almost or entirely the same underneath, the 6.7" and 7.2" rear axles and T50 stems from the late 60's/early 70's (depends whether we talk prototype or production), near identical or same weight, wheelbase, width & suspension pickup points.
Really what sets them apart is how they look, wiring colors are and mean the same (tackle one, you can do all the others), most of the AE86 stuff bolts right in so long as you do the whole component, it's when you try to keep the stock U/S rear axle with a 4A-GE build that you're gonna have to build custom driveshafts & have them balanced etc, the price of that = Might as well splurge on the AE86 rear axle too and bolt it straight in.
4A-GE'ing a KE70 complete with fuel tank, rear axle, transmission, front subframe etc? I mean if you can afford it, go ahead! Wiring? just do 12v battery & Ignition for 4 wires onto the engine loom, done.
It's a comparative minimum of fabrication/welding/wiring skills.
It's not so much a "build" as just bolting stuff in really, you don't even have to be a mechanic, only question these days is affordability.
unfortunately no one really knows about other types of this car other than the sedan which is the most popular. In my opinion the Coupe models look more sporty and almost look like the legendary ae86 corolla.
I've got a load on a running coupe, but it's am auto and needs work.
Don't forget about 2door wagon and panel van, and 4 door wagon rear leaf spring models!
Even australia got the hatches, sedan and wagon and panel van.
@@Mr_jz_12 I got a t72 hatch here in Midwest America
(In response to original comment) The reason you don't see them as much in drifting isn't because they aren't popular, you don't see them because most people can't be bothered re-engineering the front crossmember.
What I mean by that is the coupe's have worm & roller steering, as you probably know rack & pinion is what you need for drifting because it's more modular.
Shorter steering knuckles (for more steering lock) with worm & roller on these Toyota's means you lose self centering forces (I've tried lol), and with 110mm knuckles the ratio increases to like 5 turns of the wheel on a worm & roller contra 3.3 with a rack & pinion, and add to that you literally have to catch every drift without ANY feedback from the steering wheel, no matter how much caster you run.
A.k.a, good luck with that.
So what's the problem? Just swap in the 4dr one?
Nope... because the AE70/KE70 rack & pinion crossmembers have different chassis pick-up positions/bolt-pattern for their crossmembers (where the steering rack bolts to) so you can't just bolt stuff in to solve problem as you normally would with most other corolla's.
You need fabrication skills & experience to create a modular jig out of both crossmembers, and Frankenstein the sh*t out of it (pardon the French).
Which is why the sedan's and van's (even with the leaf spring conundrum) are more popular in drifting 😊
I love the wagon
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it's lightweight like holy sh**
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I heard that ke30 streering wheel is to close to the tigh how can you resolve that problem?
same chassis with ae86
Definitely prefer this format to the drift potato
Drift potato never dies
from 02:07 is not a Corolla but a Carina aa60, usually called as a 4 door ae86.
Minus hydraulic clutch and 6.7" rear end it's the same as a E7 under the bonnet though.
How about daihatsu charmant second gen??it also have similar part from ae86 ...
I haven't heard about this car, it looks like it is based on the e70 corolla
@@DriftRev its a badged engineered ke70 with ae86 steering box and ae86 suspension mounts ae86 t50 gearbox 4a-c engine and its more rare
@@omer9572 Yeah you can't get parts for the Charmant's, and the T50 isn't the AE86 one it's the 70's version with smaller input bearing / different output flange, not that it stopped me (TA60 T50, also 70's version, in a 4A-GE swapped TA40, but I don't hammer on it and it's held up for almost 10 years)
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Way better than a ae86
They're the same, I prefer the 86 because of the longer doors, comfier to get in and out of, nobody wants to ride with a death trap today anyway, people have gotten mighty picky, sadly 4 doors don't mean more h0es.
story of my life... the most common 4 door in 4ag in 45s . still no drift for me.. cant do both daily and weld!!! or maybe can ? ? ? ?
Retain 155 width 13" tyre and 40psi inflation in rear tyres, then welded diff will last a long time if not overly abused
@@Colt45hatchback that 1200 diff is the second almost destroyed!!! will try bmw e30 whole rear!! much stronger even from the 1600cc ones
but needs wORk to fit
I upgraded mine in ke30 corolla to one from toyota hilux. 4.11 ratio and has clutch type lsd, is very strong. Had to re drill axles and brake drum to suit 4 bolt wheels, for ke70 will have to also get someone to cut and weld the mounting for suspension arms. Will be easier than e30
yeah but this car 3:09 has a turbo and has like 200hp
Too bad half the cars pictures in the vid have other engines swaps, so you’ll never really see what the car is like with a low power engine like the 4age
I've seen a Tuerck'D episode where Ryan Tuerck visit his friend, Forrest Wang, and they water spray the drift pad so they could drift with the welded diff, stock 1.3l 4k engines. Looks like a ton of fun in the wet. Dry condition, not so sure
@@mal3762 that sounds awesome, I made that comment so long ago. i own one but the gts diffs are so expensive so its not worth the trouble of finding one though perhaps buying a cressida, celica, or toyota van or even a pick up one might be worthwhile
Pretty sure every car in this video has a 4AGE.
@@lordblizzord A Pajero or 8.8" rear end with pre-fabricated 4-link bracket kit and modified driveshaft is the same cost of a 6.7/7.2" gts diff anyway.
So buy now rather than later is my take on it.
When AE86 are too expensive
Theatre get you 70 ever