I just recently switched my main mixing and mastering monitors for the first time in probably 10 years, from my old Adam S3X-H's to the Type 30 Mk2, and they are nothing short of incredible. Extremely revealing in all the right ways, with a sound that I find I'm preferring over just about everything else I tested them against, and any other monitors I own or work on (even my Barefoot MicroMains or the massive ATC's at one of the "major" studios i work out of occasionally). Tried them against ATC'S, Focal Trio11 Be's, Nuemann, the newer horizontal Adam monitors (which were massively underwhelming, they sound very lifeless thru analog inputs, and only sound like monitors of their price thru their AES inputs, which was an instant no-no for me), basically every set of monitors I could find for 15k (US) or less, and the Type 30's on their default settings thru their analog inputs (no linearizer, ports open, no filters or attenuation activated) sounded the best out of all of the above (and plenty more I haven't mentioned). The HEDD's have some fancy DSP stuff going on (like so many modern monitors), but at their core, they still have an excellent analog design without having to turn a single knob. In my opinion, the Linearizer is a super interesting idea with a great implementation, and will surely help folks in rooms that aren't well treated, but in a properly treated control room, you likely do not need the Linearizer turned on. I prefer it off 99% of the time. Though, I've found it's a fantastic tool for checking translation. The Type 30's are just amazing when it comes to their translation onto other systems. They are a very accurate sounding monitor with an incredible level of depth, and they present mix issues in such a clear and consistent way, far superior to the Adam S3X-H, and also Klaus Heinz' new ribbon tweeter/Air-Motion Transformer implementation for the HEDD's is much better than Adam's (or any other ribbon monitors I've heard). Adam's have that extended frequency range, but every Adam monitor seems to have a very "hyped" upper mid range that becomes very exhausting to the ears. Whereas with the HEDD's, there is no such problem. They have a mid range accuracy and clarity that I haven't heard on other monitors, at least not in the same way, and i can happily work on them for hours and hours without much of any ear fatigue (it helps that they stay incredibly detailed at lower volumes). There's something about the sound of the HEDD's that feels almost "acoustic", or maybe a bit more like a passive monitor in some ways. I think the "Closed or Ported" system may be an even more useful extra addition than the Linearizer, having the option to effectively switch between a bass-reflex system and an infinite-baffle on a whim is excellent, and they sound great in both modes. In my control room, I tend to prefer to keep them in their ported setup, but the closed ports are great for checking accuracy in mixes that are more bass heavy than average. Also, Adam's most definitely had a much more "aggressive" mid range and high end, and not in a helpful way, the new ones are the same way, hyped in a way that is very fatiguing, and actually has some odd distortions in the midrange that i measured, especially on sources like grand pianos (S3H and S5H are the new ones i tested). I find the HEDD's far more detailed sounding, no measured distortion and just incredibly flat and accurate across the board, they also reach a bit more into the ultra high and low frequencies than Adam's as well (or I should say, they stay flat til much higher in the freq range than Adam's. They both go above 40kHz, but the Adam's drop by about 8dB before 30k, whereas the HEDD's stay flat to 40k and seem to extend even a bit beyond, which seems to really keep the sound very "open". The build quality of HEDD's stuff is also *way* better than companies like Adam. They are certainly very beefy, and you'll need stands that can hold at least 100lbs for the Type 30's (something like the Argosy Spire 360xi stands are perfect). You can tell the quality control is top notch just from the packaging alone, but theyre so much more substantial than the equivalent Adam monitors, in everything from the cabinet density, to the driver designs, to the hand folded ribbon tweeters, to the final fit & finish and everything in between. I can't say enough good things about my Type 30 Mk2's. Utterly exceptional.
What do you mean the Hedd's still have a great analog design at their core? Why would checking bass heavy music be the reason for using in closed mode? Did you try Dutch and Dutch 8c's?
@@soundsofurbanlondonmediaci5696 Narrow response? I was just asking about the parts of his comment that I didn't understand. I also had nothing to say about the other information he provided as it was nothing new to me, I know the monitors quite well.
I recently bought the Type 07 Mk2's directly from hedd during blackfriday. I recommend buying it directly from them. They sound amazing. Hedd have updated the speakers and fixed the DSP issues that were causing them to break (when first released). Also in terms of the standby feature it can be turned off in software.
I still have Adam p33s because all the models after that by Adam didn't impress me as much, It turns out Klauss Left to form this company around that time I think Adam stuff got worse so I'm very interested to hear these. And of course Roland left to form Eve too, so those are still on the list also.
HEDD has been doing a LOT of promotion on UA-cam in the last months, I´m living in Berlin where both HEDD, and ADAM speakers are made. Never bought the ADAM´s, because they never really impressed me. The thing about HEDD is, I don´t think they make a line I can afford. They are all VERY expensive!!!! I´m not willing to 2000€ for lower quality. So, I think I´ll stick with my Genelecs, which I´ve been using for decades, and have made a good living with.
Geithain RL-906 all the way! Why so good? Because they tell you AS SOON AS YOUR MIX OR MUSIC IS OVERCROWDED and things are overlapping eachother in an ugly way.
If everyone checked mixes in Geithain we would have so much less overproduced/overmixed/overmastered ”FLAT” music with no depth left. They need some burning in though (yes I also think its snake oil, that burning in I mean) even if manufacturer say no.
So your room was obviously tuned with your custom speaker system in mind. Do you think whatever issues that were addressed were of the same benefit to these monitors? I sometimes get asked by people who early in their journey and want to upgrade monitors what to buy, and I often then they could keep what they have if they took a serious effort towards treatment.
You will never be able to make a good comaprison with the ones you have installed because these are intrigated in the studio (with all trimmings at 100%) so what is the point in a comparison between the HEDD's and your Studio system. Just use these HEDDs for some time mixing and mastering. And see how they then compare with your studio system. Then it might reveal something A/B ing them will never work, espacially as you are tuned to the ones you have now. And you need at least a week to get the sound of new monitors in your own mindfull system :-) Keep on pushing and hope you have fun with the Cardboar boxes!!. (btw that was a splendid idea about the acoustic pannels inside the packaging.)!!
yeah every time I meet somebody they have to ask me about my nails and my sexuality just because I have *colors* on my nails (I have black and redpink on the same fingers than yours haha, good coincidence) especially here in north Belgium, people aren't quite tolerant with that but yeah if you get comments about it a lot I'm so sorry for adding to the list.. but I find yours pretty :3 Really nice live! Always good to see it although I wasn't there right away, I'm late haha. But yeah my cat broke one of my speakers with her nails and made a whole that adds a bad sounding to the right side one.. still looking for new ones, mines aren't on stores anymore. I'll continue to look arround. Thanks for that! Not annoying you more with this comment, take care have a nice and amazing day! 🌸✨
I’ve had the type 20 for a couple years now. Can’t comment on any other speakers because lack of experience. but these are the best Sounding things I can imagine. So cool you did a video on them.
Have a pair of the Type 07 MK 2 wonderful monitors. Have never found them wanting in the bass. Love the sound, are a bit darker compared to other monitors I’ve used including Adam, Dynaudio. Would highly recommend giving them a listen.
I own HEDD speakers and have already had to have one replaced and the other one just died. I had KRK's before these and they lasted 10 years with zero problems. Save your money and yes I can prove it. That rant having been said I will also say this: Claudius at HEDD has been one of the best customer service people I have ever worked with. Because of the manufacturing date I have to replace the DSP in both of my speakers. HEDD is sending them to me and have shared a link to a video on how to to the replacement. When these speakers work, they are truly incredible.
I concur. I had exactly the same problem, a speaker went down after 4 months and I was devastated. I contacted HEDD and had a nice response from Freddy Knop who put me in touch with Claudius, who was incredibly helpful and patient all the way. I also was sent 2 x new dsp boards which I fitted myself. I was apprehensive at first, but the instructive video was easy to follow. I just took my time and was very careful. I did have an issue trying to remove the Adam hall xlr cable from the right monitor's socket which actually ended up breaking the socket as it just would not release. To be fair I think this issue is with the cable socket as HEDD kindly sent me a replacement which the cable also had issues with but just about unplugs with some force. So the common denominator is the cable. All in all, the monitors are back up and running (I have to admit I was apprehensive as its stressful opening up monitors that cost you £1500 for the pair) and sounding better than ever. I also have peace of mind that this should not happen again. If I had sent them back to the store in England I purchased it wouldn't necessarily guarantee I didn't have another dud. Highly recommended!
@@Ian-gw2vx I also replaced the dsps in both speakers and now they work great. after a lot of frustration I'm still glad I bought them as my mixes sound better than ever.
I had issue with tweeter noise in one of my type 07, contacted support, my Hedd were over 4 years old so no warranty, but they sent a new card, turned out to be just oxygen, bit of corrosion on the volume pot, a bit ISO and they sounded brand new. Also Hedd support super nice. I use ISO all the time for my synths, just forget that monitors needs a bit of cleaning to
Obviously only going by what your mic picked up, but the Type 07's sounded far more natural and relaxed than the Type 20's. The Quasar's were definitely more natural sounding when you switched to them from the 20's, taking into account as well that you have the highs already attenuated a bit. A friend of mine has the Type 07's and I have been on Dutch & Dutch 8c's for about 6 months, before that Amphion Two 18s. I was really quite impressed by the 07'S when I heard them at his place and am still considering them as a smaller 2-way pair to go alongside my 8c's. They seem like a solid mix tool, although I guess i should hear the 20s in person before passing judgment, but sounds like the better buy is defo the 07's as a second set.
Missed the livestream so just watched the replay. For the video I'd love to see you compare AES/EBU vs. Analog on the 07s and explain the difference benefits. I have the 07s in my studio and I am wondering if I should use them with AES/EBU in the future. I'd need to upgrade my audio interface (looking at RME as well) for it so can't test it myself just yet.
The AES/EBU feature is very handy and sounds great but note that if you use the BASS 08 Sub, HEDD recommends using the analogue outputs for proper phase alignment. From the Type 07 manual page 15: If a BASS 08 or bigger HEDD subwoofer is used, it is preferable to use the analogue outputs from the sub. The HEDD BASS subwoofers have a Lineariser on board as well, therefore the overall bass signal is delayed by approximately 30 ms. They are added to the analog output so that an all in all linear phase Satellite-Sub-system is in place. In this very case you may set the switch to “for SUB”. The AES/EBU out of the RME UXCII or ADI-2 Pro or AIO Pro sounds excellent, and frees up your analogue outputs for other monitors. :)
The chief engineer of HEDD was previously the chief engineer for ADAM. My main monitors are ADAM S3H's and I absolutely love them! Their transient response is stunning, and I felt they were better than many other monitors I compared them to. However.... I do run a 3kHz high-shelf at -1dB to lower the tweeters a bit. I have never felt fatigued working on them all day, unlike many dome tweeters I've worked with. I have NOT heard these HEDD monitors, but I'd suppose I'd really like the Type 20's given that I already like the sound of a good AMT tweeter.
/// Been using HEDDphones for a year, they're levels beyond any mixing headphones I've ever used. Definitely a company that is leapfrogging competition in the same price brackets ... and above ..
i use HEDD Type 20 (mk1) for 3 years now. i never ever go for another brand from now. tower mains coming soon! :D about having the same measurements but a diffrent sound. its all down to phase distortion. it has a psychoacustic masking effect. lineariser made that clear to me.
we value your expertise to give us a review of speakers and other audio products. Obviously, it's hard to communicate what you're hearing, but you can do some test with Sandstorm by Darude, and listen to them, and see if you feel you hear what it should be sounding like. Bass amount, flat or not, the connection behinds ;), the image of the sound, etc... We would still take your advice as a good one, even though it is obvious your personal opinion, which you should state, just in case ;) You could answer questions like... if I went broke today, and all I could afford was this one monitor pair, would they do the job?... or might there be a better contender for the price?... things like that. ;) btw. desk filter, I guess is for the reflection of frequencies a desk can make... if bigger desk or smaller desk bounce more or less some frequencies, the know filter those.. I believe. btw. budget is more like sub $500 for the pair. ;) then from $501 to $1000 are another class... then $1001 to $2000 another... and I guess the last is $2001 to $999999,- :D
Some really interesting first impressions and a really fun way to share the experience! Totally agree, there is an intersection of art / science with speaker systems that can only be truly appreciated by time and experience at the mixing / mastering desk. =) Congrats on your continued successes and all the very best! ✨
I own pair of Type 20 MK2 for 6 months, and I really like how my mixes translate on other systems. I have also tested them in closed mode, however when you close the ports you need to switch the mode at the back of the speaker. What I found out is much more definition in bass and low mids which is superb for mixing purposes although I use the speakers also for composing and production so ported option is better for me. Really eager to hear the complete review of Type 20
A Kali three way system like the IN-5's with the superb Kali subwoofer is half the price of these speakers. So that's the question... it's a very difficult equation and basically I think it comes down to you buying the best quality speakers that you like the sound of, setting them up correcty in your room with sound treatment if you can, and then allowing yourself time to get really atuned to them. 😎
Bingo! Those were on my list, but I wanted to try the T5v’s to see what the ribbon tweeters sound like. They pair nicely with the Kali Audio w6-2 sub… if you can get the sub far enough away from your desk or you listen to movies from 8-12’ away = pure madness what the sub can do in terms of volume speed impact! Would probably pair nicely with the Kali monitors I am going to try the mini dsp hd before getting a second sub 😎
At least you change up the colors on your finger nails, 😁 I really like the type 20 mk2 monitors. It is tough to review speakers, but nice job anyway buddy.
07 MK2 + 20 MK2 둘다 사용하고 둘다 정리했습니다. HEDD 제품에 불량이 엄청나게 많은것을 알고 있나요? 07 MK2 는 DSP 불량이 끝이 없었고, HEDD 본사에서 최신제품을 받았지만 다시 사용하고 싶지 않았습니다. 20 MK2 도 새거를 뜯어서 그자리에서 테스트 했는데 두번 연속 불량이 있었습니다. 그리고 20 MK2 (30MK2 포함) 여전히 엄청난 노이즈가 있습니다. 05 MK2 + 07 MK2는 노이즈를 줄여놓은 DSP를 소비자 모르게 변경했습니다. 지금 판매중인 제품은 노이즈가 없지만, 고음역대 역시 많이 줄어들었습니다. 여전히 만듬세도 부족하고, 볼트도 제대로 잠겨있지 않을것입니다. HEDD의 조립능력이 생각보다 좋지 않습니다. 20 MK2 역시 마찬가지고, 엄청난 히스 노이즈는 왠만한 사람들이라면 견디기 힘들수 있습니다. BASS 08도 사용했었는데, 마찬가지로 볼트 제대로 잠겨있지 않았고, 불량은 없었지만.. 08 -> 12인치로 중간이 없는것은 치명적입니다. 07MK2 + BASS08 의 출력은 100db 이상 사용하기 어렵고, 빠르게 왜곡이 시작되고 클리핑이 찾아옵니다. 20MK2는 조금더 여유가 있지만, 3WAY 모두가 히스노이즈를 함께 키워서 듣기 힘듭니다. 1년이상 사용했고, 지금은 모두 정리했습니다. 지금 제 주변에는 그 어떤 누구한테도 추천하지 않는 스피커입니다.
I would love you to test the Slate Digital ML-1 microphone. It emulates like 10 other top-tier microphones with the plugin included! It would be great to hear a honest opinion from honest guy 💪
Bought myself a pair of type 07 mk2 last year and love them. I had the problem where the dsp board broke but another comment said HEDD already fixed that issue.
one measurement that would be useful information is to see what the phase is doing and the delay when switching mode. only because it is a relatively specific feature and it would verify the promises made by the manufacturer. but at the price they go I expect them to be on the frequency curve that they are advertised at so frequency measurement are "useless"
You should prepare a bit to have some more statements about the equipment when testing. And you need a second static unboxing cam perhaps with a small table. Never talk about that misbehavior, the near field speakers covering your main monitors and you can't hear the difference properly. So why would anyone send you stuff for testing again.. all the first start isn't that easy.. 🎭
Man man, maak alsjeblieft je nagels schoon met aceton! Ik ken je niet persoonlijk maar op het eerste gezicht ben je er niet het type voor (geen Brian Eno). Een eigenzinnige bril zou je veel beter staan als het daar om gaat. Geen haat en ik hou van je content maar ik stoor me aan die nagellak, maar ligt natuurlijk ook aan mij 😉
Ordered the 07's from Thomann Music about seven months back as they were $400 less than any dealer in the US. I made sure to add special instructions regarding shipping across continents specifically requesting speakers be shipped in reinforced double boxing and packing even if I had to pay a bit more. Also sent an email immediately after processing order and also called and spoke with someone in sales support regarding my concerns and was completely assured the shipping department would be made aware of special reinforced packaging needed. Two+ weeks later two half opened boxes arrived with almost all the corners opened and the corners of speaker boxes contained within them completely caved in. Needles to say no surprise to find the corners of the MKII 07's also smashed in. And there ended my journey and foray into the world of HEDD monitors. Thanks again Thomann 🙏
holy shit that's frightening to read... i'm receiving my type 20's mk2 on Friday after 2 months in customs and a overseas shipping by Thomann... nerves of steel on this one.
I’m not sure what you’re trying to bring across, this time. Normally you have clear focus. Your introductory words give a different picture of what is the majority of this episode. I expected a review of the HEDDs which would be great because i have the 07s. But you don’t get to that point. On the other hand you have really valuable words about the measuring at the end. When I got my 07s I too pondered the thought of buying a ref mic and software. But in the end it’s your ears that do a large part of the eq-ing and the references you use is the music stuff you think is excellent. Where one monitor excel compared to another one is the clarity, the transparancy, the detail. In my opinion the 07s are a great bang for the buck in that respect.
That’s really odd, considering that the Hedds come with the top and bottom covered in a polystyrene cover. This would’ve had to have been removed for the speakers to get damaged. The half opened boxes are probably because customs wanted to check that the contents matched the description. Not sure why you’d blame Hedd or Thomann for this?
@@jamesjames77777 You're not sure why I blamed Thomann? Let's see guess I wasn't clear enough. Let's try this again. The boxes used to ship the boxed speakers in was twice the size of the speakers boxes and they did NOT contain ANY packing material whatsoever to keep the boxes contained inside from rolling all over the place. What's that mean you ask? Well the speakers were clearly bouncing around inside these much larger boxes which caused the corners of the outer box to split from impacts by loose, heavy moving boxes inside them. Why did they split you ask? Because not a stitch of packing tape was used to reinforce the edges of the huge outer boxes like any halfwit with half a clue working in packing and shipping at any major retailer would do and which UPS themselves implicitly specify in their instructions for all over seas shipping. It had nothing to do with customs checking anything since they would have opened the top of the boxes like any normal person would not by tearing open outer corners. As for the polystyrene needing to be removed for the damage to have been possible, eye roll and a "get real" as I would have mentioned something as flagrant as that. The polystyrene was very much present and also very much dented so the impacts these boxes suffered must have been fairly severe and repeated in order to get all the way through the polystyrene to the speakers corners. If this still doesn't answer the question for you how Thomann would be considered responsible if a customer goes above and beyond to request and ensure proper packing is used to safeguard expensive paid items yet is simply completely disregarded and instead said items are shipped in a clearly neglectful manner across continents, well then I don't know who's fault you think it is... I guess mine. In the end all I got out of Thomann's shitty customer service was being out $1800+ for 7 weeks while the damaged speakers were being inspected by UPS then returned oversees to Thomann and a refund submitted to my bank one speaker per week. Not sure why I'd blame Thomann... Gimme a break...
I'm sorry if this is hard to hear , but I bought directly from Hedd because they actually price matched Thomann when asked and since they are the manufacturer, all items including b stock are literally new. B stock from thomann or 3rd party could be a customer return or display item, but from the manufacturer , it's always new but with very minor marks. The package arrived pristine and so did the speakers. I'm sorry to hear your situation. Complete nightmare especially for the price. Just giving you the info for future reference, not trying to kick you while down at all.
It's funny to me to see a smoker (for example), saying that things are expensive, staying from getting good equipment or a car, and still smoking every freaking day. Did you know that the average smoker (a pack a day) spends about $238 a week on cigarettes, which is over $12,400 each year? There you go... if you smoke and haven't thought of this?... there you have a viable option. ;)
@@benirodriguez9516 To be fair, switching to vaping after years of paying a ridiculous amount of tax on cigarettes saved me tons of money. The old 'cancer sticks' were one of the stupidest things I've ever spent my money on, but I'm a big believer in letting people waste their money however they like.
@@AutPen38 definitely! Vaping is a much better option. And the same here, I also think people should do what they want with their money, it's theirs after all. I was only stating that some prioritize the wrong thing while whining they don't have money to this or that. I remember seeing on the news a woman getting evicted from her apartment for not "being able" to pay for months, and she was smoking (a lot), had a 70-75" tv, a dog, and even the PS5 and Xbox X series, + a PC with a 2080ti... And the focus on the interview, was... poor her, she's getting evicted, how can the owner of the house, be such a bad person for not letting her stay. 🤣
@@aro7975 I agree, all the professional reviews rate them highly. I'll go with their opinions. Just got some and they are fantastic for my small studio. The type 20's would have been overkill.
@@aro7975y friend. In Vienna... Klangfarbe i heard all adams neumann hedd genelec. 15 speakers pairs. Hedd 20 is a bugatti veron when compared to rest of them. Night and day. Neumann have' grey' sound... I just cant listen them longer that 1 min. Hedd 7 is a good toy conpared to type 20.
Not the best sounding speakers out there. Fatiguing top end and poor transient response. Same as adams tbh. But adams improve on higher models with price increase a bit…
@@Whiteseastudio interesting! I’m wondering now what is the ideal amount of fatiguing in a speaker.. if we are under the microscopes certainly it should have some amount of fatigue and if they had no fatigue something would be off. And what is the ideal amount of transient response, you wouldn’t want too much or else it would be less transient outside studio? What makes an accurate transient response and what could define the baseline. Another variable I’m thinking of is if all speakers sound the same out of the box compared to 100+ hours of music played through them. I can believe the transient thing but just can’t imagine the high end is fatiguing. I have MK 1 and if the high end is fatiguing then I’m guessing that’s exactly how it should be. Crazy idea but I’m guessing the tweeters need a warm up time.
I just recently switched my main mixing and mastering monitors for the first time in probably 10 years, from my old Adam S3X-H's to the Type 30 Mk2, and they are nothing short of incredible. Extremely revealing in all the right ways, with a sound that I find I'm preferring over just about everything else I tested them against, and any other monitors I own or work on (even my Barefoot MicroMains or the massive ATC's at one of the "major" studios i work out of occasionally). Tried them against ATC'S, Focal Trio11 Be's, Nuemann, the newer horizontal Adam monitors (which were massively underwhelming, they sound very lifeless thru analog inputs, and only sound like monitors of their price thru their AES inputs, which was an instant no-no for me), basically every set of monitors I could find for 15k (US) or less, and the Type 30's on their default settings thru their analog inputs (no linearizer, ports open, no filters or attenuation activated) sounded the best out of all of the above (and plenty more I haven't mentioned).
The HEDD's have some fancy DSP stuff going on (like so many modern monitors), but at their core, they still have an excellent analog design without having to turn a single knob. In my opinion, the Linearizer is a super interesting idea with a great implementation, and will surely help folks in rooms that aren't well treated, but in a properly treated control room, you likely do not need the Linearizer turned on. I prefer it off 99% of the time. Though, I've found it's a fantastic tool for checking translation. The Type 30's are just amazing when it comes to their translation onto other systems.
They are a very accurate sounding monitor with an incredible level of depth, and they present mix issues in such a clear and consistent way, far superior to the Adam S3X-H, and also Klaus Heinz' new ribbon tweeter/Air-Motion Transformer implementation for the HEDD's is much better than Adam's (or any other ribbon monitors I've heard). Adam's have that extended frequency range, but every Adam monitor seems to have a very "hyped" upper mid range that becomes very exhausting to the ears.
Whereas with the HEDD's, there is no such problem. They have a mid range accuracy and clarity that I haven't heard on other monitors, at least not in the same way, and i can happily work on them for hours and hours without much of any ear fatigue (it helps that they stay incredibly detailed at lower volumes). There's something about the sound of the HEDD's that feels almost "acoustic", or maybe a bit more like a passive monitor in some ways.
I think the "Closed or Ported" system may be an even more useful extra addition than the Linearizer, having the option to effectively switch between a bass-reflex system and an infinite-baffle on a whim is excellent, and they sound great in both modes.
In my control room, I tend to prefer to keep them in their ported setup, but the closed ports are great for checking accuracy in mixes that are more bass heavy than average.
Also, Adam's most definitely had a much more "aggressive" mid range and high end, and not in a helpful way, the new ones are the same way, hyped in a way that is very fatiguing, and actually has some odd distortions in the midrange that i measured, especially on sources like grand pianos (S3H and S5H are the new ones i tested). I find the HEDD's far more detailed sounding, no measured distortion and just incredibly flat and accurate across the board, they also reach a bit more into the ultra high and low frequencies than Adam's as well (or I should say, they stay flat til much higher in the freq range than Adam's. They both go above 40kHz, but the Adam's drop by about 8dB before 30k, whereas the HEDD's stay flat to 40k and seem to extend even a bit beyond, which seems to really keep the sound very "open".
The build quality of HEDD's stuff is also *way* better than companies like Adam. They are certainly very beefy, and you'll need stands that can hold at least 100lbs for the Type 30's (something like the Argosy Spire 360xi stands are perfect). You can tell the quality control is top notch just from the packaging alone, but theyre so much more substantial than the equivalent Adam monitors, in everything from the cabinet density, to the driver designs, to the hand folded ribbon tweeters, to the final fit & finish and everything in between. I can't say enough good things about my Type 30 Mk2's. Utterly exceptional.
What do you mean the Hedd's still have a great analog design at their core? Why would checking bass heavy music be the reason for using in closed mode? Did you try Dutch and Dutch 8c's?
@@Rareos After all of the great information DG just provided, you responded rather narrowly in my opinion, the points DG made were perfectly salient.
@@soundsofurbanlondonmediaci5696 Narrow response? I was just asking about the parts of his comment that I didn't understand. I also had nothing to say about the other information he provided as it was nothing new to me, I know the monitors quite well.
I recently bought the Type 07 Mk2's directly from hedd during blackfriday. I recommend buying it directly from them. They sound amazing. Hedd have updated the speakers and fixed the DSP issues that were causing them to break (when first released). Also in terms of the standby feature it can be turned off in software.
I've already had to replace one of these and the second one just died. I'm over it I should have just bought Adam speakers.
@aro7975 which discount did HEDD give during black friday?
I still have Adam p33s because all the models after that by Adam didn't impress me as much, It turns out Klauss Left to form this company around that time I think Adam stuff got worse so I'm very interested to hear these. And of course Roland left to form Eve too, so those are still on the list also.
Flip the (cop)knob to closed when porting 😊
HEDD has been doing a LOT of promotion on UA-cam in the last months, I´m living in Berlin where both HEDD, and ADAM speakers are made. Never bought the ADAM´s, because they never really impressed me. The thing about HEDD is, I don´t think they make a line I can afford. They are all VERY expensive!!!! I´m not willing to 2000€ for lower quality. So, I think I´ll stick with my Genelecs, which I´ve been using for decades, and have made a good living with.
Thanks
Geithain RL-906 all the way! Why so good? Because they tell you AS SOON AS YOUR MIX OR MUSIC IS OVERCROWDED and things are overlapping eachother in an ugly way.
If everyone checked mixes in Geithain we would have so much less overproduced/overmixed/overmastered ”FLAT” music with no depth left. They need some burning in though (yes I also think its snake oil, that burning in I mean) even if manufacturer say no.
So your room was obviously tuned with your custom speaker system in mind. Do you think whatever issues that were addressed were of the same benefit to these monitors? I sometimes get asked by people who early in their journey and want to upgrade monitors what to buy, and I often then they could keep what they have if they took a serious effort towards treatment.
Indeed, acoustics needs upgrades first, usually...
You will never be able to make a good comaprison with the ones you have installed because these are intrigated in the studio (with all trimmings at 100%) so what is the point in a comparison between the HEDD's and your Studio system. Just use these HEDDs for some time mixing and mastering. And see how they then compare with your studio system. Then it might reveal something A/B ing them will never work, espacially as you are tuned to the ones you have now. And you need at least a week to get the sound of new monitors in your own mindfull system :-) Keep on pushing and hope you have fun with the Cardboar boxes!!. (btw that was a splendid idea about the acoustic pannels inside the packaging.)!!
I have used hedd type 07 mk1 for sale - Poland, good price.
Is it me, or has anyone else noticed the midrange drop when he switched to Quasar. And when he went back to HEDD's the midrange jumped back up.
What you think abount EVE audio ?
I got the mk1. Mk2 came out shortly after… went with a different manufacturer… bad timing I guess
HEDD are one of the top monitor manufacturers. The founder of HEDD is also the founder of Adam Audio.
Nope,the founder/CEO went off to start Eve Audio and the lead designer HEDD.
nope, they founded adam together. obviously the other guy who has eve is more into marketing but not acoustics ;)
omg chat.. need to participate
yeah every time I meet somebody they have to ask me about my nails and my sexuality just because I have *colors* on my nails (I have black and redpink on the same fingers than yours haha, good coincidence) especially here in north Belgium, people aren't quite tolerant with that but yeah if you get comments about it a lot I'm so sorry for adding to the list.. but I find yours pretty :3
Really nice live! Always good to see it although I wasn't there right away, I'm late haha.
But yeah my cat broke one of my speakers with her nails and made a whole that adds a bad sounding to the right side one.. still looking for new ones, mines aren't on stores anymore.
I'll continue to look arround. Thanks for that!
Not annoying you more with this comment, take care have a nice and amazing day! 🌸✨
I’ve had the type 20 for a couple years now. Can’t comment on any other speakers because lack of experience. but these are the best Sounding things I can imagine. So cool you did a video on them.
Have a pair of the Type 07 MK 2 wonderful monitors. Have never found them wanting in the bass. Love the sound, are a bit darker compared to other monitors I’ve used including Adam, Dynaudio. Would highly recommend giving them a listen.
I own HEDD speakers and have already had to have one replaced and the other one just died. I had KRK's before these and they lasted 10 years with zero problems. Save your money and yes I can prove it. That rant having been said I will also say this: Claudius at HEDD has been one of the best customer service people I have ever worked with. Because of the manufacturing date I have to replace the DSP in both of my speakers. HEDD is sending them to me and have shared a link to a video on how to to the replacement. When these speakers work, they are truly incredible.
I concur. I had exactly the same problem, a speaker went down after 4 months and I was devastated. I contacted HEDD and had a nice response from Freddy Knop who put me in touch with Claudius, who was incredibly helpful and patient all the way. I also was sent 2 x new dsp boards which I fitted myself. I was apprehensive at first, but the instructive video was easy to follow. I just took my time and was very careful. I did have an issue trying to remove the Adam hall xlr cable from the right monitor's socket which actually ended up breaking the socket as it just would not release. To be fair I think this issue is with the cable socket as HEDD kindly sent me a replacement which the cable also had issues with but just about unplugs with some force. So the common denominator is the cable.
All in all, the monitors are back up and running (I have to admit I was apprehensive as its stressful opening up monitors that cost you £1500 for the pair) and sounding better than ever. I also have peace of mind that this should not happen again. If I had sent them back to the store in England I purchased it wouldn't necessarily guarantee I didn't have another dud.
Highly recommended!
@@Ian-gw2vx I also replaced the dsps in both speakers and now they work great. after a lot of frustration I'm still glad I bought them as my mixes sound better than ever.
I had issue with tweeter noise in one of my type 07, contacted support, my Hedd were over 4 years old so no warranty, but they sent a new card, turned out to be just oxygen, bit of corrosion on the volume pot, a bit ISO and they sounded brand new. Also Hedd support super nice. I use ISO all the time for my synths, just forget
that monitors needs a bit of cleaning to
Obviously only going by what your mic picked up, but the Type 07's sounded far more natural and relaxed than the Type 20's. The Quasar's were definitely more natural sounding when you switched to them from the 20's, taking into account as well that you have the highs already attenuated a bit.
A friend of mine has the Type 07's and I have been on Dutch & Dutch 8c's for about 6 months, before that Amphion Two 18s. I was really quite impressed by the 07'S when I heard them at his place and am still considering them as a smaller 2-way pair to go alongside my 8c's. They seem like a solid mix tool, although I guess i should hear the 20s in person before passing judgment, but sounds like the better buy is defo the 07's as a second set.
Missed the livestream so just watched the replay. For the video I'd love to see you compare AES/EBU vs. Analog on the 07s and explain the difference benefits. I have the 07s in my studio and I am wondering if I should use them with AES/EBU in the future. I'd need to upgrade my audio interface (looking at RME as well) for it so can't test it myself just yet.
The AES/EBU feature is very handy and sounds great but note that if you use the BASS 08 Sub, HEDD recommends using the analogue outputs for proper phase alignment. From the Type 07 manual page 15:
If a BASS 08 or bigger HEDD subwoofer is used, it is preferable to use
the analogue outputs from the sub. The HEDD BASS subwoofers have a
Lineariser on board as well, therefore the overall bass signal is delayed
by approximately 30 ms. They are added to the analog output so that an
all in all linear phase Satellite-Sub-system is in place. In this very case you
may set the switch to “for SUB”.
The AES/EBU out of the RME UXCII or ADI-2 Pro or AIO Pro sounds excellent, and frees up your analogue outputs for other monitors. :)
@@olly6828 Thanks for the in-depth reply! The room I'm in does not require a sub so I am good to go with the 07's via AES/EBU :D
HEDD 20s are awesome. Spend some tine with them last summer and getting a pair eventually! My room probably is too small but hey they just soooo good.
The chief engineer of HEDD was previously the chief engineer for ADAM. My main monitors are ADAM S3H's and I absolutely love them! Their transient response is stunning, and I felt they were better than many other monitors I compared them to. However.... I do run a 3kHz high-shelf at -1dB to lower the tweeters a bit. I have never felt fatigued working on them all day, unlike many dome tweeters I've worked with. I have NOT heard these HEDD monitors, but I'd suppose I'd really like the Type 20's given that I already like the sound of a good AMT tweeter.
/// Been using HEDDphones for a year, they're levels beyond any mixing headphones I've ever used. Definitely a company that is leapfrogging competition in the same price brackets ... and above ..
Thank you!!
i use HEDD Type 20 (mk1) for 3 years now. i never ever go for another brand from now. tower mains coming soon! :D
about having the same measurements but a diffrent sound. its all down to phase distortion. it has a psychoacustic masking effect. lineariser made that clear to me.
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we value your expertise to give us a review of speakers and other audio products. Obviously, it's hard to communicate what you're hearing, but you can do some test with Sandstorm by Darude, and listen to them, and see if you feel you hear what it should be sounding like. Bass amount, flat or not, the connection behinds ;), the image of the sound, etc... We would still take your advice as a good one, even though it is obvious your personal opinion, which you should state, just in case ;) You could answer questions like... if I went broke today, and all I could afford was this one monitor pair, would they do the job?... or might there be a better contender for the price?... things like that. ;)
btw. desk filter, I guess is for the reflection of frequencies a desk can make... if bigger desk or smaller desk bounce more or less some frequencies, the know filter those.. I believe.
btw. budget is more like sub $500 for the pair. ;) then from $501 to $1000 are another class... then $1001 to $2000 another... and I guess the last is $2001 to $999999,- :D
Yes this video was as useless as the gearspace absorbers behind him 🤦♂️
compare hedd type 20 vs eve sc3070 please,maybe adam a8h as well.
The closed ports thing you have to change a setting on the back… no idea how much difference that makes though
Some really interesting first impressions and a really fun way to share the experience! Totally agree, there is an intersection of art / science with speaker systems that can only be truly appreciated by time and experience at the mixing / mastering desk. =) Congrats on your continued successes and all the very best! ✨
your first test reaction was like wtf, this is better then my setup 🤣
I own pair of Type 20 MK2 for 6 months, and I really like how my mixes translate on other systems. I have also tested them in closed mode, however when you close the ports you need to switch the mode at the back of the speaker. What I found out is much more definition in bass and low mids which is superb for mixing purposes although I use the speakers also for composing and production so ported option is better for me. Really eager to hear the complete review of Type 20
A Kali three way system like the IN-5's with the superb Kali subwoofer is half the price of these speakers. So that's the question... it's a very difficult equation and basically I think it comes down to you buying the best quality speakers that you like the sound of, setting them up correcty in your room with sound treatment if you can, and then allowing yourself time to get really atuned to them. 😎
Bingo! Those were on my list, but I wanted to try the T5v’s to see what the ribbon tweeters sound like. They pair nicely with the Kali Audio w6-2 sub… if you can get the sub far enough away from your desk or you listen to movies from 8-12’ away = pure madness what the sub can do in terms of volume speed impact!
Would probably pair nicely with the Kali monitors
I am going to try the mini dsp hd before getting a second sub 😎
I have been looking at the hedd 07 as my next monitoring setup
the guy who founded adam audio founded hedd audio as well.. Hedd audio in a sense is the true evolution of the Adam line of speakers.
im putting a coin in the wishing well and prayingf for some more snakeoil videos
get a binaural head and put it in your sweetspot seating position to test speakers
If you don’t like them you can always send me a pair 😅
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At least you change up the colors on your finger nails, 😁
I really like the type 20 mk2 monitors. It is tough to review speakers, but nice job anyway buddy.
07 MK2 + 20 MK2 둘다 사용하고 둘다 정리했습니다.
HEDD 제품에 불량이 엄청나게 많은것을 알고 있나요?
07 MK2 는 DSP 불량이 끝이 없었고, HEDD 본사에서 최신제품을 받았지만 다시 사용하고 싶지 않았습니다.
20 MK2 도 새거를 뜯어서 그자리에서 테스트 했는데 두번 연속 불량이 있었습니다.
그리고 20 MK2 (30MK2 포함) 여전히 엄청난 노이즈가 있습니다.
05 MK2 + 07 MK2는 노이즈를 줄여놓은 DSP를 소비자 모르게 변경했습니다. 지금 판매중인 제품은 노이즈가 없지만,
고음역대 역시 많이 줄어들었습니다.
여전히 만듬세도 부족하고, 볼트도 제대로 잠겨있지 않을것입니다. HEDD의 조립능력이 생각보다 좋지 않습니다.
20 MK2 역시 마찬가지고, 엄청난 히스 노이즈는 왠만한 사람들이라면 견디기 힘들수 있습니다.
BASS 08도 사용했었는데, 마찬가지로 볼트 제대로 잠겨있지 않았고, 불량은 없었지만..
08 -> 12인치로 중간이 없는것은 치명적입니다.
07MK2 + BASS08 의 출력은 100db 이상 사용하기 어렵고, 빠르게 왜곡이 시작되고 클리핑이 찾아옵니다.
20MK2는 조금더 여유가 있지만, 3WAY 모두가 히스노이즈를 함께 키워서 듣기 힘듭니다.
1년이상 사용했고, 지금은 모두 정리했습니다.
지금 제 주변에는 그 어떤 누구한테도 추천하지 않는 스피커입니다.
could use them for outside of stereo mixing/mastering, like 4.1 5.1 7.1 dolby and so on, as far as i know there is some demand
I would love you to test the Slate Digital ML-1 microphone. It emulates like 10 other top-tier microphones with the plugin included! It would be great to hear a honest opinion from honest guy 💪
Bought myself a pair of type 07 mk2 last year and love them. I had the problem where the dsp board broke but another comment said HEDD already fixed that issue.
one measurement that would be useful information is to see what the phase is doing and the delay when switching mode. only because it is a relatively specific feature and it would verify the promises made by the manufacturer. but at the price they go I expect them to be on the frequency curve that they are advertised at so frequency measurement are "useless"
43:48 Remember to switch the speakers to ‘closed’ port mode on the back panel if you use the plugs Wytse! Thanks for the review! 🎉😊
Got it!
You should prepare a bit to have some more statements about the equipment when testing.
And you need a second static unboxing cam perhaps with a small table. Never talk about that misbehavior, the near field speakers covering your main monitors and you can't hear the difference properly. So why would anyone send you stuff for testing again.. all the first start isn't that easy.. 🎭
Man man, maak alsjeblieft je nagels schoon met aceton! Ik ken je niet persoonlijk maar op het eerste gezicht ben je er niet het type voor (geen Brian Eno). Een eigenzinnige bril zou je veel beter staan als het daar om gaat. Geen haat en ik hou van je content maar ik stoor me aan die nagellak, maar ligt natuurlijk ook aan mij 😉
Does the sound of the speakers change after running a while? I always thought that speakers needs some time when the fully played and sound well :-)
Finally!! I’ve had the HEDD 20 MKll on my shortlist
I can confirm that they are worth it. I have a Mk1 pair and they are all I could ask for in a studio monitor. They work great in small rooms too
Bring a good analyze video
Got the Type 20 MK2 and they are a perfect match for me, really love them.
congrats 150 K 👍
Dude, I'm not gay but you look so cute !
you have such great music... really mean it.
hellooo
Fold it into a Helmholtz resonator
good try but there is still doubt
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Ordered the 07's from Thomann Music about seven months back as they were $400 less than any dealer in the US. I made sure to add special instructions regarding shipping across continents specifically requesting speakers be shipped in reinforced double boxing and packing even if I had to pay a bit more. Also sent an email immediately after processing order and also called and spoke with someone in sales support regarding my concerns and was completely assured the shipping department would be made aware of special reinforced packaging needed. Two+ weeks later two half opened boxes arrived with almost all the corners opened and the corners of speaker boxes contained within them completely caved in. Needles to say no surprise to find the corners of the MKII 07's also smashed in. And there ended my journey and foray into the world of HEDD monitors. Thanks again Thomann 🙏
holy shit that's frightening to read... i'm receiving my type 20's mk2 on Friday after 2 months in customs and a overseas shipping by Thomann... nerves of steel on this one.
I’m not sure what you’re trying to bring across, this time. Normally you have clear focus. Your introductory words give a different picture of what is the majority of this episode. I expected a review of the HEDDs which would be great because i have the 07s. But you don’t get to that point. On the other hand you have really valuable words about the measuring at the end. When I got my 07s I too pondered the thought of buying a ref mic and software. But in the end it’s your ears that do a large part of the eq-ing and the references you use is the music stuff you think is excellent. Where one monitor excel compared to another one is the clarity, the transparancy, the detail. In my opinion the 07s are a great bang for the buck in that respect.
That’s really odd, considering that the Hedds come with the top and bottom covered in a polystyrene cover. This would’ve had to have been removed for the speakers to get damaged. The half opened boxes are probably because customs wanted to check that the contents matched the description. Not sure why you’d blame Hedd or Thomann for this?
@@jamesjames77777 You're not sure why I blamed Thomann? Let's see guess I wasn't clear enough. Let's try this again. The boxes used to ship the boxed speakers in was twice the size of the speakers boxes and they did NOT contain ANY packing material whatsoever to keep the boxes contained inside from rolling all over the place. What's that mean you ask? Well the speakers were clearly bouncing around inside these much larger boxes which caused the corners of the outer box to split from impacts by loose, heavy moving boxes inside them. Why did they split you ask? Because not a stitch of packing tape was used to reinforce the edges of the huge outer boxes like any halfwit with half a clue working in packing and shipping at any major retailer would do and which UPS themselves implicitly specify in their instructions for all over seas shipping. It had nothing to do with customs checking anything since they would have opened the top of the boxes like any normal person would not by tearing open outer corners. As for the polystyrene needing to be removed for the damage to have been possible, eye roll and a "get real" as I would have mentioned something as flagrant as that. The polystyrene was very much present and also very much dented so the impacts these boxes suffered must have been fairly severe and repeated in order to get all the way through the polystyrene to the speakers corners. If this still doesn't answer the question for you how Thomann would be considered responsible if a customer goes above and beyond to request and ensure proper packing is used to safeguard expensive paid items yet is simply completely disregarded and instead said items are shipped in a clearly neglectful manner across continents, well then I don't know who's fault you think it is... I guess mine. In the end all I got out of Thomann's shitty customer service was being out $1800+ for 7 weeks while the damaged speakers were being inspected by UPS then returned oversees to Thomann and a refund submitted to my bank one speaker per week. Not sure why I'd blame Thomann... Gimme a break...
I'm sorry if this is hard to hear
, but I bought directly from Hedd because they actually price matched Thomann when asked and since they are the manufacturer, all items including b stock are literally new. B stock from thomann or 3rd party could be a customer return or display item, but from the manufacturer , it's always new but with very minor marks. The package arrived pristine and so did the speakers. I'm sorry to hear your situation. Complete nightmare especially for the price. Just giving you the info for future reference, not trying to kick you while down at all.
It's funny to me to see a smoker (for example), saying that things are expensive, staying from getting good equipment or a car, and still smoking every freaking day. Did you know that the average smoker (a pack a day) spends about $238 a week on cigarettes, which is over $12,400 each year? There you go... if you smoke and haven't thought of this?... there you have a viable option. ;)
Duh
Anti-smoking people might have more disposable income but nothing to stop them from being being tiresome bores.
@@AutPen38 hah.. I'm no Anti-smoking! I'm Pro-be-smarter-with-your-money ;)
@@benirodriguez9516 To be fair, switching to vaping after years of paying a ridiculous amount of tax on cigarettes saved me tons of money. The old 'cancer sticks' were one of the stupidest things I've ever spent my money on, but I'm a big believer in letting people waste their money however they like.
@@AutPen38 definitely! Vaping is a much better option. And the same here, I also think people should do what they want with their money, it's theirs after all. I was only stating that some prioritize the wrong thing while whining they don't have money to this or that.
I remember seeing on the news a woman getting evicted from her apartment for not "being able" to pay for months, and she was smoking (a lot), had a 70-75" tv, a dog, and even the PS5 and Xbox X series, + a PC with a 2080ti... And the focus on the interview, was... poor her, she's getting evicted, how can the owner of the house, be such a bad person for not letting her stay.
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Waiste of time as always. What an ego. Hedd 20 are superb, 7 are not
What don't you like about the 7s. Have you tested or demo'd both? Curious to know why.
@@aro7975 I agree, all the professional reviews rate them highly. I'll go with their opinions. Just got some and they are fantastic for my small studio. The type 20's would have been overkill.
@@aro7975y friend. In Vienna... Klangfarbe i heard all adams neumann hedd genelec. 15 speakers pairs. Hedd 20 is a bugatti veron when compared to rest of them. Night and day. Neumann have' grey' sound... I just cant listen them longer that 1 min. Hedd 7 is a good toy conpared to type 20.
Not the best sounding speakers out there. Fatiguing top end and poor transient response. Same as adams tbh. But adams improve on higher models with price increase a bit…
Have you owned the type 20s?
@@kevinhuman6275 I have tested them but decide to send them back for the above statement.
I agree, listened to them for a few hours, those highs are pretty fatiguing. Transient response it not that bad, I’ve heard worse…
@@Whiteseastudio I agree not an issue it is always advised that ears need resting after 1 hour and half for 20 mins.
@@Whiteseastudio interesting! I’m wondering now what is the ideal amount of fatiguing in a speaker.. if we are under the microscopes certainly it should have some amount of fatigue and if they had no fatigue something would be off. And what is the ideal amount of transient response, you wouldn’t want too much or else it would be less transient outside studio? What makes an accurate transient response and what could define the baseline. Another variable I’m thinking of is if all speakers sound the same out of the box compared to 100+ hours of music played through them. I can believe the transient thing but just can’t imagine the high end is fatiguing. I have MK 1 and if the high end is fatiguing then I’m guessing that’s exactly how it should be. Crazy idea but I’m guessing the tweeters need a warm up time.