Old Composer Reacts to Gwyn, Lord of Cinder OST from Video Game DARK SOULS
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Loving these reacts! You have some great insights and you're a fun personality. Def gonna have to check out your twitch, have been meaning to.
As an aside, Would love to see you react to some other jazz anime songs, like Guns and Roses by Paradise Lunch, the op to a show called Baccano. Or Boomerang Boogie by PE'Z (the 5 minute version) the op to a show called Gad Guard.
Thought you might want to know that the reason this boss fight's theme is so emotional is because according to the lore, this boss (who is the game's final boss) is a former king who lost his throne, his sanity and even his free will because of his own hubris and fear. To keep his power, he interfered with the natural order, and the events of Dark Souls are all due to this decision. So he's a once renowned hero who the main character is essentially having to put down like a rabid dog because that's what the former king has made of himself.
That's why the music for this fight is more subdued and even tragic than you'd normally find in a boss fight. Also, I strongly recommend you do Soul of Cinder from the Dark Souls 3 OST, which has a callback to this song in its second half.
Hey, just wanted to let you know, I think you can keep a twitch VOD for more than 30 days if you turn it into a highlight. I don't know the specifics on this I'm afraid, but it might be useful to you. Anyways, great reaction!
An important thing contextually about Dark Souls and its OST is that the series is essentially about the entropic decay of the universe. The age of dark is coming, whether you like it or not. Gwynn is a character who was noble, powerful and essentially a God in the same vein as Zeus or Odin. But when you find him - he's a shell. A withered old husk of a man. All because he chose to try and stop the inevitable and desperately fight against decay. In the end, all he did was ruin himself and only slightly prolong the existence of a world that's essentially on life-support. The question at the end of the game is this - do you continue to prolong the decaying world, or finally let it end as its meant to?
And the world isn’t even decaying, it’s only his age of fire fading away. And even then, as fire fades, flames soon roar from ashes and embers again. The world was to enter a natural age of dark, and then cycle naturally. Flame, then dark, and then flame one day ignites again. All Gwyn did was start a cycle which lead the entire world to burn to nothing but ash. The dark souls world ends in ash, not darkness. It all burns away, all because Gwyn feared losing his importance, feared being forgotten like the ancient dragons. He is nothing but a fool, to fight against the natural order of the world.
@anwd8646 Its not said that it naturally cycles and we clearly see first hand that the world is decaying (probably a mix from the actions gwynn and the fire fading). I don't think the age of dark is meant to be a good thing but neither is the age of fire. In my mind - the age of dark is meant to represent entropy whereas the fire essentially represents the remaining energy in the universe. The age of dark is natural and the things Gwynn does to prolong the age of fire is messed up - clearly the flame is MEANT to fade. That's natural. But I don't think it's meant to be objectively a good thing. It's like death. Dying is natural but it's still terrifying and depressing. We only see the direct result of how Gwynn's methods turn out because it becomes a cycle - but I doubt the age of dark would be much better.
@@OrbitalfilmsAU Well, if we consider how the abyss is seen it’s terrifying, mutating humans into horrible abominations such as Manus. But it’s said that the abyss was a gentle thing. Every human has darkness within them, if we consider quest lines in the second game, that’s discoverable. There’s all these signs that darkness isn’t inherently bad, because after all, the age of fire was the age of the gods, and the age of darkness was meant to be the age of man. Gwyn was just afraid of losing his importance because his age of the gods was ending. Still, we don’t know what the age of dark truly would be, whether it be the age of man, or as you said, the world decaying. Anyways, in the end, Gwyn is still responsible for the entire world burning into ash. We see it in Dark Souls 3.
@@anwd8646 for having no humanity, what gwyn did was horribly human wasn't it, i love the irony and philosophy of these games, amazing art pieces, to be digested visually, emotionally, sonically, or just a braindead fun and hard game, i don't know how from software managed it all.
Also important to say that the majority of the characters in the game constantly lie to the player about being a hero, successor of Lord Gwyn.
You get manipulated into prolonging the age of fire. And as a video game player, you're used to do what the game tells you to.
Only a few beings that you meet in the game are hinting that something is wrong with this world.
Loved hearing the pleasantly perplexed "And this is a boss fight?"
Videogames have now been doing this stuff long enough that they can play with expectations. Players are so used to gigantic and bombastic tracks during bosses, that clever composers will sometimes hit you with a quiet little track instead, to make you sit up and pay attention. Getting smacked around by a guy three times your size--to quiet, tense piano in a minor key--is just so surprising and unsettling. Really makes you feel like you're tangling with some tired old Olympian god. Has kind of an Oedipal "murdering your father" feel.
The entire soundtrack for "Breath of the Wild" uses this same trick a lot.
Id like to add that frankly, the Gwyn bossfight is not particularly hard. Its challenging, yes, but before reaching them you have fought far worse. He is... kinda weak. Youre really just fighting the burnt out shell of Gwyn, while he has been built up through the game as this glorious and powerful figure. Its... sad.
It works really well with the themes of the game about the world stagnating and suffering because of it. This track carries that feeling. Its somber and depressing, but i think there is also a sliver of hope in it.
Yes, i dont link the fire.
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It's a mercy kill.
@@mordador2702 Indeed! Literally you can pull off ALL what you've learned since going into the 1st 10 minutes on the asylum.
It's crazy cuz Gwyn will be as hard as the player skills have grown (or not).
But yeah, there are WAAAAAAAY harder bosses than Gwyn and it's AMAZING the subversion of the final boss of the game in all the senses.
When you play it the 1st time you have no idea what's going on and you feel really underwhelmed. Once you get what's going on, it hits really hard those PLIN PLIN PLON
@@CatBxtchNami Gwynn didn’t deserve mercy tho
@@shanedillis153 I think the very virtue of the boss fight itself is proof that Gwyn deserved mercy. The guilt of continuing the age of flame had turned him hollow, but even in his hollow form, he takes one final futile stand to try to write the wrong of his past.
Fun fact: Gwyn was also known as Gwyn the White. This piece was completely done with all white keys.
That's cool to know. :)
Perfect use of integrating story and composition. He's so afraid of the darkness that playing a black key is forbidden.
Gwyn is Welsh for White
no where in the game is Gwyn referred to as Gwyn the white. Id argue the piece was composed with only white keys since Gwyn is trying to prolong the age of fire and prevent the age of dark.
@@drteeth362 Actually, he is referred to as Gwyn the White twice that I can think of offhand. The Way of White is the religious order that he founded, after all.
Gwyn is a character who re shaped the world of the game, and refused to let it change after his time. He sacrificed himself to keep his age of light going. You hear throught the game about the Lord of Cinder Gwyn, but when you finally get to him he is just a husk of his former self. After you defeat him, you can choose to fuel the flame with yourself as he did, or let it die, along with Gwyn's age of light.
Gwyn was the Lord of Sunlight. Not until you meet him in the Kiln it is revealed that he had become the first ever Lord of Cinder. Hollow and soon to be forgotten. A mindless husk of what he once was. A tragedy in some eyes, but he also had it coming in others eyes. Why was the Dark so feared? Were us humans that dreaded? We continue to fail to communicate or understand and that is why Lordran fell. A similar fate to what will become of our reality if we do not choose the right path.
5:15 the way the music stops at some parts or gets slower makes it feel like he wants to give up but still fights
The challenging thing with introducing someone to Gwyn's theme is there is SO much backstory to how he got the way he is, how much environmental storytelling is happening in the boss arena, and what exactly is at stake in this conflict. I've already seen dozens of people ahead of me trying to explain why this song is so impactful and so loved, but nothing that can fit into a youtube comment will truly do the tale justice. It's something you need to experience for yourself.
You mentioned that you expected a bossfight theme from dark souls to have more bombast and intensity, and you'd be correct, most bossfights throughout the series have a very high intensity track backing them up. So much so that when we first reach Gwyn, the end boss of the first game, we expect the most grandiose piece of the game, just as we expect to see the god of fire and lightning he's been propped up as the whole game. Instead, we get a somber and contemplative piano piece, and a mad husk of a once great king, the weight of his sins and his perpetuation of a cycle against nature ruining him mentally and physically. Gwyn's fight is a trial, but it is also a mercy.
I love gwyn'a fight. You're told the whole game hpw gwyn was the head of the pantheon and how he decimated the dragons yet by the time you get to him he has gone insane from keeping the fire lit.
I also feel like, since his hollowing, he's lost all of his power save for raw strength. He doesn't fire lightning bolts and only has his flaming greatsword and the explosive grab...but no lightning or sunlight blade...only fire
So happy you listened to this, it was the first thing I thought of when I stumbled upon your channel.
Now , lord of cinder from dark souls 3. Please.
The final phase where it switched to a version of this song is just... phenomenal.
The combination of Gwyn's theme and what later is heard as the epilogue/credits song is so incredible.
*soul of cinder
Yup I actually died on my first try because I was so perplexed when the first notes of gwyn's theme started to sneak in. It was worth it 😅
Especially when the Plin Plin Plon hits.
This track is such a beautiful contrast to all the others in the game since its purely piano, as opposed to the others with full orchestral.
Its all heavily tied to the lore and story of the game which is never easy to explain, but essentially what seems like a simple "last fight" is really a tragic ending to the husk of a man, so a super stripped down theme fits very well.
Moonlight Butterfly tho
I remember when I first reached this Boss Fight and I found myself with qualms with what I was doing. As to me at that time all those years ago it felt like I was the sole witness to a tragedy that I would be the final nail of.
I always tear up listening to this. it's so beautiful and sad
There’s other sounds that this is omitting that, when hearing the song without them, gives me new perspective all these years later.
Gwyn’s theme is soft piano. Every other song in the game is tied either to a boss, or godly presences. All the other songs “speak,” and often do so with loud choral and orchestral sound. Their sound communicates one thing: “doom through adversity.” Peril, pain, and destruction.
But Gwyn’s theme is quiet. Gwyn himself is silent as he fights you in the kiln that used his soul as fuel. The only sounds you hear of him is from the damage you inflict on each other, the sound of your steps through the ashes, the quiet piano’s lament, and most importantly…
…the Flame of Gwyn’s burning sword.
Gwyn sought power through the Fire. He sought to control it. Sacrificed his kingdom. His family. Even his very self to preserve power and try to control the Flame that empowered him.
But he is just a shell, now. A soulless husk. It isn’t him speaking to us, and the sound tells us why.
It is the Fire that he sought to control, now controlling him. Speaking through him, to us. Us, the errant moths, drawn to the Eternal Flame…the kindling for a Godly Funeral Pyre.
It speaks of doom as well. Not the doom of destruction, but the doom of Fate. Both of the God of Light…and us, who would seek to usurp him.
It’s a theme about refusing to let go, becoming a shell of yourself the longer you hold on. You face Gwyn as a burned out husk of himself, and the song is a melancholic end to a really epic journey
this is why I love DS 1. when you think about a boss fight, specially a DS boss fight this is not the OST you would have imagine. let alone final boss's OST. but withing the story, this is a abselutlely a perfect OST for the boss fight.
in the beginning of the game Gwen is built up as this mighty king who challenged the gods themselves and the mighty warrior brought down dragons. but as you go through the game it slowly revealed what happens to him and how he is now reduced to a shell of his former self. forgotten by the world, alone and weak. so when you go to that battle he's nothing like the legends described him. just a husk of a man left to tend to the flames. even combat is nothing more than an NPC PVP. game expect you to be the new champion who challenge the hero who saved and cursed humanity but when you go through the game listening to the lore, more you sympetize and pitty Gwyn. so when you go to that final boss room this OST perfectly sums up all those emotions hitting right where it feels. it's like fighting your hero who desperately desire to rest and be forgiven.
this is my second favorite OST in all Soulsborn games. 01 being dancer of the boreal valley. i love that OST more because the beat/sound of Dancer's footsteps makes the OST a completely ominous new OST.
It was the final boss fight, you go in expecting an incredible final battle with intense music yet you face the one song with gentle piano and a tragic choice to make it's so somber and playing dark souls for the first time without knowing it was so intense
Hell yeah, Ive been WAITING for this one!!
i love this theme because it really throws you, as the player, off by giving you this very emotional piano theme as if the boss you are fighting is not at all evil and that you are not necessarily "winning" by defeating him. It kind of strikes you with a sense of grief and uncertainty if killing the boss is the right decision or perhaps there is some other way. Its very interesting
The Gwyn boss fight, If you'd been following the story, is supposed to be sad. I think the music fits it perfectly given that most people won't know what's going on narratively at that point.
I'm feeling plin plin plon today
NICE!
i didn't know your channel until now, I'm very interested to hear an experienced person's opinion on stuff like this.
this track is unique because you're not supposed to feel empowered, just melancholic if you know the Boss's story. Also now you can react to the soul of Cynder, man what a track! you'll have a lot to say about that one
I've waited for that. Thank you!
Gwyn:before you parry me i have one thing to say
Player:go ahead
Gwyn:plin plin plon
Player:🥺
Wow thank you so much for doing this one. Dark Souls is my favourite game of all time and this song is just so beautiful. The game really seems like a typical fantasy game at first but it has these moments of just raw emotion and creativity that resonate so well with people. Back when it first game out, it wasn't all that popular, it didn't have a big marketing push behind it, but through word of mouth from fans it grew into the successful series we see today.
It is such a beautiful and sad song. This man Gwyn the man responsible for everything that has happened since the dawn of time, the man responsible for the undead curse and what will eventually be the death of the entire world as it falls to ash. He is build up as this goliath, unwavering in his devotion to the flame and monumental in his power but when you face him there is so little of him left, he has been sitting in a kiln for possibly hundreds of years using his own soul as kindling in a desperate attempt to keep the flame burning. He is a husk, a shell probably not even conscious of his own actions any more. He is so weak that you can literally stand still and parry him to death. The god that created the world is now little more than a smouldering pile of ash in the form of a man pathetic and weak.
This song perfectly represents that. It's one of the greatest tracks in the series and one that hit so hard for so many people when they payed tribute to it in the Soul of Cinders boss fight in 3 when he enters second phase and starts pulling Gwyn's move set off. I died in that fight specifically cus of the emotional blows.
I saw other people post it but you gotta do the “Soul of Cinder” theme as well, it was right above the video you watched here!! It uses the same motif as a way to call back to the original boss fight and it has great lore reasons that I’m sure the community would love to explain in the comments of THAT video. Fantastic reaction as always!
My dude I love your insights into the music so much. I’d like to see you try some of these games so you can get the full experiences rather just pulling out one thread of the music design, the music, story, involvement etc in some games are so artistically intertwined
Man I love this song, and your reaction to it is exactly what I was hoping for.
I also want to say, as a fellow Dark Souls enthusiast, it is so funny seeing chat trying to give more context to the piece.
Not only is it a boss fight. It's the final boss of one of the most memorable games ever created.
Ah yes, Gwyn's theme. It's presentation is purposed to iterate the emotion of the fight and the path of where he ended, lonely, but the choice to carry out afterward is the player's. Absolutely genius effect for the sorrow of his tale. He gave everything in his cause, but in truth the results were inevitability, and he gave anything possible to bring it one age slower.
That's when the player's story begins to make the decision to either carry the torch in his stead or remove him from it and disregard it as the chosen one of prophecy. But in the end someone else would after, and the world would continue all the same, but always changing in shape, and the lands would slowly converge. The lore of the series is a huge highlight as well, bringing together a multitude of such tales of both glory and sad tragedies, some more sad than others. Often the most tragic, the most lonely it grows.
This track is one of my favorite songs of all. Context here adds so much to this track as well.
Thank you for taking my (and perhaps others) request for World of Warcraft OSTs. This is my most played music on Spotify, despite being a major fan of lots of music. I just saw that you posted this a few days ago, so THANK YOU!!!
WoW OSTs always have 2 things:
1) TRACK 1 of every album, featuring a semi-fixed theme (utilizing Marty's "emotional equity").
2) A track that is heard in the CINEMATIC (remember this term?) for each respective expansion.
I'd REALLY like you to do a video(s) comparing the main titles, perhaps 2 at a time. I'll list the albums at the end of this comment so you can find them easily, but basically just TRACK 1 of every album, back-to-back so you can hear the similarities and differences.
ALSO
I'd REALLLLLY like you to do a video(s) where you listen to the "Cinematic track", commentate, then WATCH the cinematic, and commentate again. The "cinematic track" I will post the name of, as well as a link to the cinematic.
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OSTs
World of Warcraft (2004)
World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade (2007)
World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King (2008)
World of Warcraft: Cataclysm (2010)
World of Warcraft: Mists of Pandaria (2012)
World of Warcraft: Warlords of Draenor (2014)
Cinematic Tracks
"Seasons of War (Intro Movie)" then watching ua-cam.com/video/vlVSJ0AvZe0/v-deo.html
"The Dark Portal (Cinematic Intro) then watching ua-cam.com/video/IBHL_-biMrQ/v-deo.html
"Arthas, My Son" (Cinematic Intro) then watching ua-cam.com/video/BCr7y4SLhck/v-deo.html
"Xaxas" then watching ua-cam.com/video/Wq4Y7ztznKc/v-deo.html
"Why do we fight?" then watching ua-cam.com/video/wvYXoyxLv64/v-deo.html
"Times Change" then watching ua-cam.com/video/TLzhlsEFcVQ/v-deo.html
These are just the first 6 albums, but this will be plenty for a good while!!!!!
If you're still here, REPLY I'M STILL HERE. THANK YOU GEEBZ!!!!!!!!
Out of all the composers react channels, I like yours most because I feel like you bring the most experience to the table. Also your lack of game knowledge is a positive for me. Lets me know you are evaluating these pieces on their own merit
Gwyn and many of the characters in Dark Souls 1 have a very tragic backstory or tragic ending (or both). Only for Gwyn, his is a tragedy shared with the main character who has to take on the mantle of Gwyn's actions. One could remark that the fight its self is a fight born out of reluctant necessity. We don't want to kill him, but we know that we must and in doing so ends the last of his kind, kingdom, and age. It's an anti-climatic moment and bitter sweet feeling.
On its face, the fight is pretty tough. He pursues you relentlessly, and gives you VERY little breathing room and assails you tirelessly putting a lot of pressure on the player throughout the fight. Not to mention, he hits pretty hard and moves uncomfortably fast at times. His theme song is very iconic and immediately recognizable to people even outside of the Dark Souls fanbase. Also, it's a badass song. ^.^
If you want more examples of incongruously touching boss battle music, I've got a candidate! "Flower on the Trails," the boss fight theme from Fuga: Melodies of Steel. The series the game is from has always been heavy on the musical allegories ("Fuga" is the Japanese mangling of "Fugue"), and despite a lifetime of gaming experiences, I was completely taken by surprise when I first reached a chapter boss in Fuga. The player characters are a bunch of kids stuck in the middle of their setting's version of WW2, but they're in a legendary mobile fortress that includes a superweapon that can win any battle... if someone sacrifices themselves to power it. The boss battles try very hard to make you desperate enough to use it, and the music reflects that.
The TIMING is what makes this theme so incredible.
After fighting truly monstrous creatures throughout the whole game, you'd expect the final boss to have the most bombastic epic theme of the entire game.
But then it's just... this.
Somber piano music playing while you put a dying old man out of his misery. After slaying demons, dragons and giant skeletons, THAT'S the final boss of Dark Souls.
This song hit me in the feels the very first time I heard it when I reached the end of the game years ago. Certified hood classic right here🙏
One of the most beautiful piece ever done for a video game.
I see gwyns old flame evrey time i hear this song
Oh hey, I was here for this
this is what I was waiting for
i definitely want to see him react to soul of cinder now
The fire fades
I think what makes this song so special is that you expect the final boss to be epic, but it isn't. The Chosen Undead has gone through so much and you expect Gwyn to be a badass. You spend the entire game overcoming insurmountable odds. After ringing two bells, getting the Lordvessel and the four lord souls, as well as seeing other characters go hollow, it feels like you spent the entire game getting stronger just to be on par with Gwyn. But what you find is someone who is weak and dying and is trying so desperately with the last of their strength and life to cling onto what little they have left. The Chosen Undead has long surpassed Gwyn and is destined to win this fight. The final battle is less of a battle and more of a mercy killing. It is absolutely poetic
Oh man I really love that piano
nah the plin plin plon is making me cry again☠
it is a boss fight you go through this brutal hard struggle the whole game to find the finale boss a withered husk of his former self and glory that you must defeat to decide the fate of the world
Some cool little trivia :)
First, this piece is written for 4 hands
Second it's written specifically for an extended range piano, like a bosendorfer imperial grand iirc, which goes all the way down to C0, that's why some notes sound abnormally low!
I believe the final movement of the song is meant to evoke a flame flickering out
“Old composer” sounds like a dark souls boss name.
Can I recommend a song from Metal Hellsinger? I fell inlove with all the music in that game and I cannot get enough of them. I'd consider myself blessed if I could start my vinyl collection with those songs.
Love how the comments are just lore dumps
What I love about this piece is how starkly different it is from the other boss theme songs, and how different it is for a final boss theme.
You'd expect something completely grand and bombastic, but instead it's... Tragic, harrowing.
A hollowed god-king, the former Lord of Sunlight, who sacrificed himself to continue the prosperous Age of Fire, to stop the world from decaying. But for a second time, the First Flame has faded, its massive Kiln a cold monument of ash, guarded by his scorched, ever loyal black knights. You as the player have the choice to relight the Bonfire or allow the age of Dark to take hold. And future games reveal that this is a nearly endless cycle -- light the flame, raise a kingdom, the flame fades, the undead curse takes hold, leaving a "chosen" undead to make the same choice again.
Gwyn was the first to make that choice.
The reason this boss fight is so sombre is because Gwyn was the hero of the last age
He brought about peace by sacrificing a lot to hold incredible power in his hand and basically provide a dark world, with light
This fight is a sad moment in the story because when you find him (to take the power from him and reinstill light into the world), you find his 12 ft tall body, mindless, clinging to the power of the fire, his body is fighting to keep it out of the hands of those who would wish to return the world to darkness.
His body fights, so that the world may have some light.
But the age of fire needs to be re-ignited if it needs to be kept out of darkness, and the player must collect all the pieces of the fire, to ensure the world stays in the light, Gwyn is the last piece of the fire to be collected. He was a hero of the last age, the player is the hero of the next age.
What always stands out about Gwyn's theme to me is that its the perfect embodiment of him. Its an empty husk of a boss theme, just as he is an empty husk of what was once a proud lord. There's nothing left but flickering embers struggling to stay lit.
This piece is THE song of the Dark Souls series, in my opinion. The series doesn't really have a unifying "main theme" but this song perfectly captures the mood and feeling of the games deep down, I think.
The tragedy of this boss is reflected well in his music. Not just A boss fight, but the FINAL boss fight.
This song made me emotional fighting gwyn because he just wanted to stay alive but it was time for the new age
Its actually the very final boss of that game.
Is like an anti climatic ost been climatic at same time..just love it..
Now good sir,i would like you to lissen the character creation ost from same game called "Dark Souls Theme".
It is a weird song for a boss without a context, because as a player, when you get to that fight you know it is going to be sad. You are basically fighting an old king, facing the dawn of a new era and you are about to make a really really heartbreaking choice right after it. It is a very very sad ending to a very grim adventure.
I noticed the most replayed part of this video was the best part:
*plin plin plon*
I recommend giving a look at the Soul of Cinder's theme from dark souls 3 since you've reacted to this
im new to your channel. you should give Dark Souls a go!!! YOU GOT THIS!!! awesome content btw dark souls aside.
7:15 we call it plin plin plon. It’s a meme!
I’d love to see you react to “The Man With the Machine Gun” from Final Fantasy 8 and “Fight With Seymour” from Final Fantasy 10. Both are synth heavy tracks that have some really great arrangements.
Fight with Seymour was one of the best songs in ff10
I love the perplex about this theme belonging to a boss. Don't know if you play games, but maybe you can give Dark Souls a try! Another UA-camr, Atlas, went from reacting to this OST to actually playing all Dark Souls games! It worked well for him.
This piece has the same tonal feel as Hollow Knight. Kind of similar stories too when you think of it from an emotional perspective
Do more dark souls osts!!
Here ya go :) Did a big session on Dark Souls last night - www.twitch.tv/keyofgeebz
Keep them stream clips coming.
I don't know what he says at 7:57 but the CC says "Nana Fart" so I have to assume that's correct.
Plin plin plon intensifies
Slave Knight Gael would be so cool to react!
I love the Souls series but I don't often find songs that I want to listen to outside of their use in the game. This is one of those exceptions, as are the other final boss themes.
Beyond those, my personal favorite from the series would probably be the Abyss Watchers.
my brother 😢💔
There are other songs that are unusual for boss fights in Dark Souls, but Gwyn, Lord of Cinder takes the cake because it is the culmination of the entire game and story, and even the title shows that defeating Gwyn, regardless of which side of the Linking the Fire thing you are, killing him is a mercy kill. He is lord of nothing and his hollow husk is fightiing to protect the dying flame, he is so gonne that he is hostile to anyone.
Other songs that are unusually sad for boss fights in this games are Moonlight Butterfly/Dark Sun Gwyndolin and Great Grey Wolf Sif, altough this last one is more bombastic and orchestral.
"nanofart"...that's a new one
Gwyn is if you turned gandalf into a head of a pantheon make him paranoid to keep the transition into the next age
This one hits a lot harder in context where it's very quiet and you only hear a select few other sounds but those sounds a really important, most prominently fire sound effects. Normally dark souls bosses have a lot of sounds as they move around and start their animations and have much more intense epic tracks but this one breaks form heavily.
Imma be honest with you guys im only crying through the whole video
Plin plin plon 0:51 😊
Yeah, there's plenty of bombastic boss tracks in Dark Souls that are absolutely amazing and fitting. But this one is notable because it's not a fight track, even though the confrontation with Gwyn *is* definitely a boss fight. No one could ever have even dreamed of touching Gwyn while he lived; he was a god in all but name. The Gwyn you face in the Kiln of the First Flame, untold millennia after sacrificing his life and his own soul for the world, is a husk operating on the sole remaining thought of "Protect the Flame!" who isn't even a shadow of who he once was, though even then he's more than capable of absolutely mopping the floor with you if you don't grant him the respect he deserves. And so it's not a track for a climactic battle; no, it's a *lament*, the soundtrack to a requiem, for the great, mighty, and *good* lord Gwyn once was, who you are now granting his final rest. Gwyn is one of the more tragic characters in video game history, and his theme is made to match.
Hence why those three piano notes - the "plin plin plon" chat kept going on about - were enough to move people to tears when they suddenly reappeared out of nowhere in the final fight piece for Dark Souls 3. After beating the final boss, the amalgamation of everyone who has ever followed in Gwyn's footsteps and sacrificed themselves to rekindle the flame, rather than dying, the boss stands back up, healed. Where before he was using what were basically player moves, he now begins to use Gwyn's moves and abilities, and the music gets quieter and those three notes appear, and people made the connection and realized, "Oh God, Gwyn was *still trapped in there,* denied his rest, still defending the Flame for all this time, stepping up to protect it one last time, and now we have to end his suffering for good." It was good for a lot of emotional damage.
You should really do Shadowlord from Nier: Replicant (or the OG Nier, either one) soon! It's tied with this piece for favorite final boss fight music---and one my favorite music pieces, period, soundtrack or not.
Best description for souls games is. "cannon yourself into a wall until it breaks down"
Gwyn is really easy as long as your eyes know how to parry the tears.
Plin plin plon, plin plin, plin plin pon!
I actually think it would have been more impactful if he both listened and watched a few bosses, say Asylum/Taurus, Sif, and O&S, *then* watched and listened to this. The context of what's "normal" for DS fights to compare and contrast with Gwyn makes sad plin plin plon way more devastating.
you can't dodge or parry this hit... emotion
I must be a lord of cinder because it burns when i p***
I don't think the gwyn fight I did does the music justice but it sure was fun.
Can you do a reaction to Verdegrand? He is lesser known youtuber that has produced some of the most beautiful covers of some of these songs!
i recommend : Made in Abyss OST 2 - "reBirth ft. Takeshi Saito"
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You should check our Asgore's Theme by Toby Fox from the game Undertale! It uses microtones so well
I think you would enjoy Dark Souls 3 Secret Betrayal. I personally love most of the dark souls series soundtracks.