As someone with a trained background in piano & music theory, just watching someone play a lumatone is such a fascinating experience, like I have no idea how this instrument is ACTUALLY laid out/constructed but watching your fingers move it feels like I'm listening/watching a language I half speak where I understand every 2nd word in an almost surreal, beautiful disjointed way. this was great
Btw, if you're still curious, the darkest keys are the white keys: C#D#E#Fx___________ C D E F#G#A#B#Cx CbDbEb F G A B C# ________FbGbAbBb C Or just look up bosanquet-wilson layout
@@a.nobodys.nobodyYes and no. You can map it any way you want, but the layout of the hexagons favors specific mappings (like the Bosanquet-Wilson layout mentioned above). And those are pre-programmed into the keyboard for ease of use.
I am a saxophonist and pianist currently studying microtonal playing. When I heard this I felt like I had relived my discoveries of Keith Jarrett and Paul Bley, but in some strange parallel universe in the future. So cool. Thank you! 💙 🎹 🎶
I've never liked the term "xenharmonic" -- as if microtonal music were primarily some kind of trippy alien construct. This piece is a great example of how an expanded octave can simply add more richness and colour to very warm and down-to-earth music. Something I've always appreciated about your music in general, but with the piano voicing and the simple jazzy chord progressions this one really drives it home.
There is no such thing as microtonal music. All music is microtonal. Only just intonation is consonant. If you want dissonance then play any pitch. Fruit up your Harry Partch. Perfect logic is maintained at all times.
You raise a really interesting point, Paul! Microtonal music doesn't have to sound mysterious, alien, etc. (many of the qualities we would associate with the word xenharmonic.) I'll tentatively posit that the term "xenharmonic" still has merit, though, after acknowledging this. The biggest thing that word does is distinguish perception from reality. Things that sound noticeably different from standard tuning (whether that's 12edo or not), are often more intense than unexpected feelings one gets from mere chromaticism. And yes, 12edo is one of many microtonal tunings :)
Do it! It's worth it! At first I wasn't sure about its long term playability but after adaptation I now see it's very capable. I'd love a weighted keys model though. Lumatone XL with weighed keys and 460 keys !
@@ZheannaEroseis this XL planned or is it an idea of yours? What I find is probably the case is that the keys could be smaller. I have the Axis 49 and the keys are just right in size, you can grab large intervals (a 12th easily) and quite full chords...
If anyone is going to make a hit song that’s microtonal, it’s probably you. Your use of the notes really did a great job of making some chords more warm and refreshing.
I LOVE THE 31 EDO SCALE, IT CAN MAKE SUCH ALIEN AND OTHERWORLDLY SOUNDS AND THEN AT THE SAME TIME MAKE SUCH HOMELY SOUNDS THAT SOUND EVEN MORE HOMELY THAN ANYTHING 12 CAN DO
wow. This is gorgeous. I've spent quite a few hours searching and listening to various microtonal music but this piece really stands out. Beautiful improv. Thanks for sharing!
Avid theory lover, with an educational background in music theory. I've seen many people explain what 31-edo is, but never anyone fully explain / demonstrate HOW it can be used. This is one of the many things I'm falling in love with this channel for. It teaches the what, the theory, the nitty gritty, but also the how. You show quite well how it can be used to make beautiful music, how accessible and enjoyable listening to it can be, and how rich this new palette of sounds and tonal choices really is. All that to say is that I'm loving your music in 31-edo so so much.
mesmerizing. first time that i can say about microtonal modern style composition that this is not just "scientifically interesting", but actually beautiful. would love to hear it in a fine dining restaurant
It kinda bothers me that there's such few people who use these special tuning systems for making music to actually listen to. I mean, isn't that why we created them in the first place?
31edo + piano = interesting combination. Now I"m not a fan of electronic 31edo music because it always feels like biting into cold ice cream for my brain, but this is much more alive.
I’ve always found piano to be incredibly versatile with these non-12 TET compositions, it almost never sounds “wrong” to my brain. perhaps it’s the exposure of it being so popular as a method of playing it
been gearing up to purchase mine, i was waayy too late for the discounts but just in time for the mod wheel upgrades that were added later. It took me a moment to recognize you from the voice lessons channel lol i had no idea since i followed this channel way before finding the other. This is wonderful Z
Amelia, this was amazing! Really looking forward to more of this kind of content. The piece took me to some very interesting places as always! A true experience that I'm so happy to have witnessed.
this is so wonderful. listened while having a bad day, and everything youve done here is so great. music outside of 12edo is so wonderful, and you have a real talent for it
Thank you so much Z, this was such a beautiful, magic roller coaster and the progressions of thought it inspired through its many twists and turns was exactly what I needed to make it through this moment of turmoil ❤️✌️
Oh wow. Okay so I think I'm in love. I barely play music and understand 0 music theory but could listen to you play and talk for hours. You give me so much hope as a woman beginning to arrive in my own field 💖
Es increíble el tipo de sensaciones que esta musica me genera. La caracterista de la microtonalidad te brinda toda una gama de colores y sabores nuevos para poder hablar y dar un mensaje realmente amplio. Por favor, crea mas musica así!!!
It is fabulous how different keys light up on the Lumotone, It sort of makes pianos look dated, the light blues and the reds meaning different things. It’s got a greater range when You play it Amelia, it’s alive! ❤ from Petra-Brown.
Fascinating... Even though I am totally perplexed by the layout of the "keyboard." Checked prices online... I won't be getting one anytime soon, as much as I would enjoy the challenge.
I love 31et tuning, altho my theory doesn't agree ! I can sometimes recognise 31edo. Nobody can tell the difference between 31et & 31edo ! I tuned 3 x 3 kids glockenspiels to 31et around 1980 in London. It played interestingly against some Fleetwood Mac 1975 LP.... I wasn't upset by any micro-discrepencies. 12et versus 31et.
So, I've been a metal musician all my life. Never even really heard the word microtonal until very recently!! I don't know how I was living life before hearing your music, but I know it was worse than it is now that I found it!! Thank you so much!!!
@@ZheannaErose Thats a sick name!!!! I'll look into it!! I actually caught a glimpse of some of your metal work in one of you videos. Towards the end you demo'd some!! It was superb to say the least!! I'll be listening to all your stuff!!!! Have a great day!!!!
Sounds hypnotic !!! It also sounds ... deliberate, like in a way an out of piano never does. Well, it IS deliberate so I guess that is some form of success. What does a lumatone cost? [ price check ] ... oooooops! well, not a toy you just get to try a little. It probably takes "a while" to even get it to sound anything like you want. And there are less expensive toys haha. Plus ... I have my guitars! :D
Something to be said for out of tune pianos... When I play my very out of tune old piano I sometimes find myself reaching for black keys that aren't there. I play my compositions on a digital piano and they just aren't at all the same. I love sound and harmony
What is the scale exactly? Sorry I'm newbie in the microtonal world. I know it's 31 tone, but what is the key. Like if we have a C Minor for example, it contains 7 notes from the 12 tone. So what is this exactly?
I wonder if this is what it is like to listen to Jazz for the first time. I think for me, I couldn't figure out what instrument to listen to because I thought only the vocals could be melody, but for some people it might be the harmony.
Dear Amelia, could you please upload all your wonderful music somewhere? I can try to save it from youtube, but it will ruin quality. While sitting in underground shelter - it's hard to have internet connection. So i want to download it all, and have local copy. Pleeeaase!
UA-cam appears to compress its audio. I've noticed some masters sound a little different across various streaming platforms. A high quality lossless version of this would sound the best, particularly on louder high end equipment for the highest dynamic contrast.
Very cool. Thanks so much for sharing. Curious about the layout. Dark blue line looks to be the almost chromatic 12 tone scale you can pull out of 31edo? Then other colors above and below are carrying the "higher order" accidentals?
@@allentollin9982 yes! This is the bosanquet layout but instead of color mapped 7+5+7+5+7, I map it 7+7+7+7+7. It makes it so some of the enharmonicism isn't visually clear on the mapping but I know where everything is way better by thinking relatively and relative thinking is easier in this mapping for me
thank you! the transition has been quite easy. it really depends on the layouts you decide to use. in terms of mechanical action, it took about 6 weeks to get used to. musically its no different to my brain.
What is the setup for this? I get Lumatone is the keyboard. What else is going on? What's the piano sampler? How is it controlling the midi (aka what's the interface)? Hex?
This piece is a nimphrovisation ! In fact the unusual pitches are most welcome, both melodically & especially harmony-ways (=wise). We are progressing slowly from the ancient archifone days. A nice blend of accessible patches against surprise skew chordal workouts. Probably better to improvise rather than compose. I'm a supporter of just intonation theory, but this 31et sounds excellent on your instrument.
72:80:81:90:96:108:120:128:135:144 72:80:81:90 = mutation / choice of 80 or 81 between 72-90 (8:10=4:5) 80:81 = comma (switch between minor/major) 72:80 = minor tone (9:10) in just modulation (key change) 72:81 = major tone (8:9) this mutation step (comma) 80:90 = major tone (8:9) is often overlooked ! 81:90 = minor tone (9:10) 72:80:90 = minor/major 72:81:90 = major/minor 72:80:81:90:96:108:120:128:135:144 120:128:135:144 ^this is the semitonal change involving 15:16, 128:135, 15:16 which should be familiar to mathematically-minded musicians ! This is quite difficult stuff to understand & perhaps more difficult to explain....
As someone with a trained background in piano & music theory, just watching someone play a lumatone is such a fascinating experience, like I have no idea how this instrument is ACTUALLY laid out/constructed but watching your fingers move it feels like I'm listening/watching a language I half speak where I understand every 2nd word in an almost surreal, beautiful disjointed way.
this was great
Btw, if you're still curious, the darkest keys are the white keys:
C#D#E#Fx___________
C D E F#G#A#B#Cx
CbDbEb F G A B C#
________FbGbAbBb C
Or just look up bosanquet-wilson layout
I think it's just a keyboard and the mapping is dialed in according to your tastes. Someone correct me if I'm wrong
@@a.nobodys.nobodyYes and no. You can map it any way you want, but the layout of the hexagons favors specific mappings (like the Bosanquet-Wilson layout mentioned above). And those are pre-programmed into the keyboard for ease of use.
@@a.nobodys.nobody the term you want to google here is "31-EDO tuning"
I am a saxophonist and pianist currently studying microtonal playing. When I heard this I felt like I had relived my discoveries of Keith Jarrett and Paul Bley, but in some strange parallel universe in the future. So cool. Thank you! 💙 🎹 🎶
It's like watching an 80s family show on mushrooms. And I love it.
I can hear it !! Haha
Nice 😅
I've never liked the term "xenharmonic" -- as if microtonal music were primarily some kind of trippy alien construct. This piece is a great example of how an expanded octave can simply add more richness and colour to very warm and down-to-earth music. Something I've always appreciated about your music in general, but with the piano voicing and the simple jazzy chord progressions this one really drives it home.
There is no such thing as microtonal music.
All music is microtonal.
Only just intonation is consonant.
If you want dissonance then play any pitch.
Fruit up your Harry Partch.
Perfect logic is maintained at all times.
You raise a really interesting point, Paul! Microtonal music doesn't have to sound mysterious, alien, etc. (many of the qualities we would associate with the word xenharmonic.) I'll tentatively posit that the term "xenharmonic" still has merit, though, after acknowledging this. The biggest thing that word does is distinguish perception from reality. Things that sound noticeably different from standard tuning (whether that's 12edo or not), are often more intense than unexpected feelings one gets from mere chromaticism. And yes, 12edo is one of many microtonal tunings :)
Ikr
@@stephenweigel yes I agree
@@rogerantonybennett5272 very good point, so true
I couldn't believe how ready i was to hear this music
welcome, you have arrived. :)
makes me want to get a lumatone. Very jazzy, alien, serene. Lovely improvisation, thanks for sharing.
Do it! It's worth it! At first I wasn't sure about its long term playability but after adaptation I now see it's very capable. I'd love a weighted keys model though. Lumatone XL with weighed keys and 460 keys !
@@ZheannaErose the prize though... :(
@@ZheannaEroseis this XL planned or is it an idea of yours? What I find is probably the case is that the keys could be smaller. I have the Axis 49 and the keys are just right in size, you can grab large intervals (a 12th easily) and quite full chords...
@@ZheannaErose ahah ok now that almost feels like greed
Für Risiken und Nebenwirkungen fragen Sie Irrenarzt oder Apotheker 🪼
If anyone is going to make a hit song that’s microtonal, it’s probably you. Your use of the notes really did a great job of making some chords more warm and refreshing.
Aayy look it's the cool microtonal girl again on my feed! Glad to see you playing once more! :D
I LOVE THE 31 EDO SCALE, IT CAN MAKE SUCH ALIEN AND OTHERWORLDLY SOUNDS AND THEN AT THE SAME TIME MAKE SUCH HOMELY SOUNDS THAT SOUND EVEN MORE HOMELY THAN ANYTHING 12 CAN DO
There's an uncomplicated beauty to the notes we miss in 12edo, and this improvisation is a great example of that. Really good to see you playing more!
wow. This is gorgeous. I've spent quite a few hours searching and listening to various microtonal music but this piece really stands out. Beautiful improv. Thanks for sharing!
Thank you! Welcome to the channel! ♥️
Avid theory lover, with an educational background in music theory. I've seen many people explain what 31-edo is, but never anyone fully explain / demonstrate HOW it can be used. This is one of the many things I'm falling in love with this channel for. It teaches the what, the theory, the nitty gritty, but also the how. You show quite well how it can be used to make beautiful music, how accessible and enjoyable listening to it can be, and how rich this new palette of sounds and tonal choices really is.
All that to say is that I'm loving your music in 31-edo so so much.
mesmerizing. first time that i can say about microtonal modern style composition that this is not just "scientifically interesting", but actually beautiful. would love to hear it in a fine dining restaurant
It kinda bothers me that there's such few people who use these special tuning systems for making music to actually listen to. I mean, isn't that why we created them in the first place?
This really brightened my day, Z. It's good to see and hear you back in action! Brava!
2:10 i got the shivers. this is so amazing
I'm always so impressed by everything you do. I'm gonna watch this a few more times to try to wrap my head around this instrument. So good!
I feel my ears shifting around listening to this wizardry. Great!
Put this on while reading a book, i've never felt more relaxed in my life.
31edo + piano = interesting combination.
Now I"m not a fan of electronic 31edo music because it always feels like biting into cold ice cream for my brain, but this is much more alive.
I’ve always found piano to be incredibly versatile with these non-12 TET compositions, it almost never sounds “wrong” to my brain. perhaps it’s the exposure of it being so popular as a method of playing it
Oh my, that was sick, you always kill it with you improvs! Thank you for posting it :3
Bright dementia jazz goes hard dang. I absolutely love this it is so inspirational!
been gearing up to purchase mine, i was waayy too late for the discounts but just in time for the mod wheel upgrades that were added later.
It took me a moment to recognize you from the voice lessons channel lol i had no idea since i followed this channel way before finding the other.
This is wonderful Z
It's always an amazing experience to find something completely new. Glad I stumbled upon this.
I'm just here to say the music and setup you have (with the candle) is super cozy.
This is so relaxing and familiar but the micrones give it this uneasy quality that you can't quite get your head around - I love it
I enjoyed it imensely, fantastic job! Congratulations for your talent!
Thank you so much! Your work in Aphoristic Madrigal was the first 31-piece I ever heard and it really inspired me!
@@ZheannaErose so glad to hear it, Amelia! 🙂 Keep it up! Best to you from Berlin
Amelia, this was amazing! Really looking forward to more of this kind of content. The piece took me to some very interesting places as always! A true experience that I'm so happy to have witnessed.
Damn, I cried.. so much beauty
Wow that's amazing!!!
I love the different sections, pacing like a little musical story. Hope you are feeling better Z!
Thanks so much. Definitely feeling better!!
this is so wonderful. listened while having a bad day, and everything youve done here is so great. music outside of 12edo is so wonderful, and you have a real talent for it
good composition !
i ordered mine a few days ago.
really looking forward to it !
it's an improvisation, not a composition. but thank you!! enjoy your lumatone.
@@ZheannaErose even more impressive knowing it's improvised.
my hat's off to you.
Thank you so much Z, this was such a beautiful, magic roller coaster and the progressions of thought it inspired through its many twists and turns was exactly what I needed to make it through this moment of turmoil ❤️✌️
❤
this makes me so happy
I love this, everything about this piece and how you play it is awesome!!!
This is gorgeous composition. Thank you for sharing it with us.
This is surreal
Thx! Wonderful! You Always motivate me :)
just in awe of your talent and creativity!
2 years ago, and the music still hits today...
Oh wow. Okay so I think I'm in love. I barely play music and understand 0 music theory but could listen to you play and talk for hours. You give me so much hope as a woman beginning to arrive in my own field 💖
Es increíble el tipo de sensaciones que esta musica me genera. La caracterista de la microtonalidad te brinda toda una gama de colores y sabores nuevos para poder hablar y dar un mensaje realmente amplio. Por favor, crea mas musica así!!!
44-50 might be one of the greatest musical sequences ever!!!!
what a beautiful soul
I wish I could try one of these 😢. Beautiful performance. Thanks for this!
Very nice improv! Edit: I transcribed it on my channel! :D
Thank you! :)
this is great lumatone
Gorgeous playing 👍
It is fabulous how different keys light up on the Lumotone,
It sort of makes pianos look dated, the light blues and the reds meaning different things.
It’s got a greater range when You play it Amelia, it’s alive!
❤ from Petra-Brown.
Fascinating... Even though I am totally perplexed by the layout of the "keyboard."
Checked prices online... I won't be getting one anytime soon, as much as I would enjoy the challenge.
God I want one of these so bad.
Amazing performance here.
Super pretty!
I love 31et tuning, altho my theory doesn't agree ! I can sometimes recognise 31edo.
Nobody can tell the difference between 31et & 31edo !
I tuned 3 x 3 kids glockenspiels to 31et around 1980 in London.
It played interestingly against some Fleetwood Mac 1975 LP....
I wasn't upset by any micro-discrepencies. 12et versus 31et.
This is outstanding
Amazing
Bravo!
Wow that instrument looks intuitive
So, I've been a metal musician all my life. Never even really heard the word microtonal until very recently!! I don't know how I was living life before hearing your music, but I know it was worse than it is now that I found it!! Thank you so much!!!
Welcome! Thank you for the kind words! I actually came from a metal background too! My old band was Sirens.
@@ZheannaErose Thats a sick name!!!! I'll look into it!! I actually caught a glimpse of some of your metal work in one of you videos. Towards the end you demo'd some!! It was superb to say the least!! I'll be listening to all your stuff!!!! Have a great day!!!!
so awesome, hope to own one someday. you play it amazingly
Mike Battaglia got me curious about this, and you play a lovely lumatone too!
Excellent! You have better keyboard chops than I do, being historically a woodwind/string guy, but I’m working on it, now that I got my Lumatone!
Go Zhea!!
Makes me want to play the lumatone too!
This is so beautiful:) I love microtonal music
This song is such a banger! I keep coming back to this one a year later. Fantastic performance.
Incredible !
Gorgeousness.
I'd love to plug this thing into some pedals.
Cheers
X
How ❤
new Zhea Erose dropped
POG
Would freaking love to see this with a jazz trio of sorts (keys, bass, drums). I'd definitely track upright bass to this
It's technically possible to play along with 31edo on a fretless bass, right?
@@-47-definitely possible, probably not easy though. Maybe I'll give it a shot one of these days 😅
beautiful playing
Sounds hypnotic !!! It also sounds ... deliberate, like in a way an out of piano never does. Well, it IS deliberate so I guess that is some form of success. What does a lumatone cost?
[ price check ]
... oooooops! well, not a toy you just get to try a little. It probably takes "a while" to even get it to sound anything like you want. And there are less expensive toys haha.
Plus ... I have my guitars! :D
Something to be said for out of tune pianos... When I play my very out of tune old piano I sometimes find myself reaching for black keys that aren't there. I play my compositions on a digital piano and they just aren't at all the same. I love sound and harmony
Love it..💖
This is fantastic!
What is the scale exactly? Sorry I'm newbie in the microtonal world. I know it's 31 tone, but what is the key. Like if we have a C Minor for example, it contains 7 notes from the 12 tone. So what is this exactly?
multiple? just like in 12 where a single scale isn’t used for a whole piece or improvisation, so too is the scale dynamic here
Beautiful! The Lumatone looks so cool. I want one.
美しいだ！
IM BEGGING YOU TO RELEASE THIS
I wonder if this is what it is like to listen to Jazz for the first time. I think for me, I couldn't figure out what instrument to listen to because I thought only the vocals could be melody, but for some people it might be the harmony.
Bom dia amigo!! parabéns!! show1!!👍😘👐👏👏👏🎹🎹
This is my wake up music. It sets my goals, it makes my shitpost strong, it gives me the best feels.
Nice! This instrument is so damn neat!
Watching from kuwait sending my full support @sumakwelan
Dear Amelia, could you please upload all your wonderful music somewhere? I can try to save it from youtube, but it will ruin quality.
While sitting in underground shelter - it's hard to have internet connection.
So i want to download it all, and have local copy.
Pleeeaase!
UA-cam Downloader on Android. Not sure about iphone. But you can select the output quality. It's great
UA-cam appears to compress its audio. I've noticed some masters sound a little different across various streaming platforms. A high quality lossless version of this would sound the best, particularly on louder high end equipment for the highest dynamic contrast.
Sorry... I'm an annoying elitist audiophile nerd 🤓
Amazing.. would love to try your Lumatone mapping for this scale❤❤.. can I find it anywhere?
Reminds early Backstreet boys ❤👍🎹
this is slightly scary in a way that feels more real than most other musi becuase like, in real life things can suddenly get slightly weird
i would love to hear this with a softer key sample
p0r€od!0 sta roba mi fa godere, sei fortissima!!
Very cool. Thanks so much for sharing. Curious about the layout. Dark blue line looks to be the almost chromatic 12 tone scale you can pull out of 31edo? Then other colors above and below are carrying the "higher order" accidentals?
not quite, there are 5 rows of 7. they are all relative. :) thanks so much!
@@ZheannaErose Gotcha. Sort of like having 5 diatonics going up/down by small intervals then?
@@allentollin9982 yes! This is the bosanquet layout but instead of color mapped 7+5+7+5+7, I map it 7+7+7+7+7. It makes it so some of the enharmonicism isn't visually clear on the mapping but I know where everything is way better by thinking relatively and relative thinking is easier in this mapping for me
I've love to get into microtonal music but how do I learn these alien tuning systems? 😯
They're just more divisions of the octave. You just kinda learn it.
Desafinado 😮😅
Yes.
beautiful playing! How is the transition from normal keyboards to this as a piano player?
thank you! the transition has been quite easy. it really depends on the layouts you decide to use. in terms of mechanical action, it took about 6 weeks to get used to. musically its no different to my brain.
@@ZheannaErose Have you tried setting the middle of the leftmost keys to A?
misatetarta (19-TET): ua-cam.com/video/L8zkQp4egp0/v-deo.html
Wow her music reminds me a lot of Liz Story. More microtonal- but still-
What is the setup for this? I get Lumatone is the keyboard. What else is going on? What's the piano sampler? How is it controlling the midi (aka what's the interface)? Hex?
Pianoteq it’s doing midi via usb
How are you getting the sound of a Piano?
This piece is a nimphrovisation !
In fact the unusual pitches are most welcome, both melodically & especially harmony-ways (=wise).
We are progressing slowly from the ancient archifone days.
A nice blend of accessible patches against surprise skew chordal workouts.
Probably better to improvise rather than compose.
I'm a supporter of just intonation theory, but this 31et sounds excellent on your instrument.
72:80:81:90:96:108:120:128:135:144
72:80:81:90 = mutation / choice of 80 or 81 between 72-90 (8:10=4:5)
80:81 = comma (switch between minor/major)
72:80 = minor tone (9:10) in just modulation (key change)
72:81 = major tone (8:9) this mutation step (comma)
80:90 = major tone (8:9) is often overlooked !
81:90 = minor tone (9:10)
72:80:90 = minor/major
72:81:90 = major/minor
72:80:81:90:96:108:120:128:135:144
120:128:135:144
^this is the semitonal change involving 15:16, 128:135, 15:16
which should be familiar to mathematically-minded musicians !
This is quite difficult stuff to understand & perhaps more difficult to explain....
Hahaha First😎 but ill be back to hear this amazing
04:03 😭😭😭😭