@@TheLevitatingFleem It makes being on a submarine look like paradise. Let alone the fact your enemy can come through the dirt at any time or the entire hole caves in.
Imagine digging, and you hear them digging towards you. So you back up, grab your gun, and pray you live, pray a dynamite stick doesn't fly through and cave everyone in.
"Flanders blues" is another word for PTSD. A lot of british soldiers served and fought in the region of Flanders during World War 1. Big battles such as Passchendaele and Ypres was fought there and hundreds of thousands British soldiers lost their lives there. Over the years, during and after the war, Flanders became a popular reference point for the suffering and pain that the war had brought in British culture. It's legacy is apparent in culturally important symbols, such as the famous poem "In Flanders Fields" and with the above mentioned slang for PTSD as well.
@@UmbraFulgur The term Shell Shock and Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) are considered by most people to be synonymous nowadays. Although Shell Shock itself refers to a specific type of PTSD inflicted by heavy artillery bombardment, it was used the same way and with the same meaning as PTSD is in current times. PTSD is a broad term and there are lots of different types of PTSD.
The symmetry between Grace's red dress and the red dust blown on the horse in the first episode is amazing. In both cases, the red flash is Tommy distracting others around him to put a deeper plan in play. Great writing and cinematography.
My Great Grandfather was in the French Army during WW1 and basically spent 2 years living in a trench. My grandmother told me that he had to have a separate bed from his wife; to wake him up you had to use a broom handle and poke him from across the room as he woke swinging and screaming well into his 70s.
Arthur doesn't scheme. He's a man of principles, bloodlust and rage and all. He is my 2nd favorite character in the show, because nobody can compete with that bakery owner...
@@rhutikkadam9683 I believe you're incorrect, wrong, and all-round mistaken. Merely my opinion, of course. How any person could divine the plot from my statement is beyond me, but if you'd care to explain you're welcome to.
There was a whole, literal underground war fought in France during WW1. Because of the stalemate of trench warfare both sides tried tunnelling under each other’s trenches to plant huge amounts of explosives. Both sides then dug tunnels to try and intercept the others. When they met underground the fighting would be savage and hand -to-hand. Because of the confined space, weapon such as pistols, bayonets, shovels and clubs had to be used.
I loved her subtle look catching Billy Kimber's red hankerchief when he asked her to dance. HE was the one she was dressing up for. I love how Tommy never tells anyone what he wants from them until the last second. He had a sixty mile drive to the racetrack to brief Grace on how to get him through the door to the high class area of the races but never told her until the last second so she would jump at his order and not overthink it. He uses shock as a weapon.
Billy Kimber: played by Charlie Creed-Miles, one of his most memorable performances: David in the Fifth Element (Luc Besson directed-- stars Bruce Willis, Gary Oldman, Ian Holm, Milla Jovovich, and Chris Tucker)
Back in the early 1970s, PBS ran the original production of Upstairs, Downstairs on Masterpiece Theatre hosted by Alistair Cooke who's intros and outros of each episode added historical and cultural context, sadly missing from historical films and series today. You cannot imagine how enormously the Great War of 1914-1918 as it was then called affected every family in Great Britain. Every family lost sons, husbands, brothers, cousins. No family was unaffected. Much of the roaring of the 1920s in Britain -- and there was plenty -- was a direct result. Sometimes you recover from trauma by going a little nuts. Or even a lot nuts. If you ever delve into Dorothy Sayers' detective character Lord Peter Wimsey as portrayed by Edward Petherbridge, you'll find that his personal eccentricities were a result of his wartime experiences, something of a substitute for the more traditional forms of shell shock.
So, some cultural stuff about the Roma people to clarify the dense and sometimes confusing g*psy/traveller discourse... that word is a slur as far as the Roma/Romani community are concerned, for the most part. They will use it to describe themselves sometimes, but it is not a word for outsiders, basically. It historically, from what I have heard from romani people (you would say "they are romani" or "the roma," ect.), comes from discrimination from where they originate in India, where the term was used either for their skin tone or as a general term to describe them as an "untouchable," which has its own historical significance. They have been pushed out, have moved around when it comes to the nomadic groups, have fled, and it is estimated that Hitler killed 80% of the Roma population (not sure if that was exclusive to countries conquered by Germany or in total, but it was a lot). For another movie reference, John Wick was part of the Ruska Roma, which is the Russian romani population. Even today, there are laws in places like Romania that gives much harsher sentencing to Romani people, do not let them in certain businesses, they will turn self defense for anyone else into a murder charge, ect. There are Roma communities that are nomadic, and ones that are not. Their culture is often very insular because of a lot of beliefs and because of their treatment historically. Depending on if a clan/family/group is nomadic or not, often kids are learning a trade within the group, and they all work together. Because of this, there are a lot of stereotypes about the Roma when it comes to education, because after a certain point they do not need traditional schooling for said trade. Similar to college vs trade school, but it happens a little younger. There can be a lot of mysticism in their culture, though many were forced to become christian and such, so it is similar to places like Latin America where you get a mix of the church with their beliefs as well, which is why you get the Christian iconography in the John Wick series. Their original religious beliefs are closer to some beliefs that you would find in India. What people believe about them is much worse, and the things I have heard are both insane and terrible. The "bohemian" style of clothing is also based on Roma culture and patterns, some dances have been based on theirs (but they were not allowed to participate in any competitions or allowed in the dance halls for a long time). I have a friend who is Romani, and her parents gave her up for adoption and lied about her ancestry to keep the adoptive parents from knowing she was Romani. She is in the US, and they only did it to try to protect their child from the harm they endured. In the UK and Ireland, there are Roma and there are travellers. Travellers have their own culture and language, but back then both the Roma and travellers were called g*psies. The show is historically accurate, including the hate and general mistrust, but it unfortunately has made a lot of people use the slur even more liberally. Even when John Wick used the right terminology, all of the explanations of lore used the slur, which is exhausting. There is a recurring theme of royalty that was brought up in the second episode and will continue to come up. Johnny Dogs says that Tommy's grandfather was a king. Before the translation, if you listen to the actual words, when he says "king," he says "roma." Roma is also their word for king, which is basically the head of their family clan/group. That side of the family is Romani, and "royalty" at that. So they aren't just the head of a gang, they do have some standing based on their bloodline in the Roma community. They also are travellers on the other side, I believe. In addition, while Tommy's close family is what you mostly see, other people in their lives that you saw that they refer to as family would have travelled with them, like Charlie, and he would have been on the Roma side. You get some more backstory later on. A lot of comments on this stuff was kind of all over the place and vague, or history heavy, so I hope this helps.
Flanders blues is a reference to Flanders fields. One of the battlefields in WW1 that the famous poem is about that inspired the use of poppies to commemorate the fallen of the war. So the Flanders blues is a reference to PTSD, a way of describing the depressive feeling they couldn't really understand at the time.
The actor that played the IRA guy with the moustache died a few years ago. He was a regular on a soap in Ireland, and a prominent enough stage actor, I think. Excuse the history comment, but funnily, when he grabs Grace, he says she's to be brought for interrogation on behalf of the Irish Free State. While that term may have been used colloquially, in reality he would have said on behalf of the Irish Republic, as it's around around 1919 or 1920 at this point. Hence, the name Irish Republican Army 😅 The Irish Free State wasn't established until December 1922, after the Anglo-Irish Treaty was signed twelve months previous to that. The Free State was a dominion of the British Empire, and its creation resulted in a civil between pro- and anti-Treaty Irish republicans between 1922-23. The civil war features as a backdrop to events in this series too.
Great Reaction and thanks for looking up "Flanders Blues". It saves 2 minutes of "second guessing" that some other reactors of shows ,choose to do when we now are able to,also,see your reaction to that knowledge.
Know who’s not scheming? Arthur Shelby! He just doesn’t have the mind for it! He’s a wild card though! Great job ladies! Doing a fine job with a show that’s not easy to figure! 🙂💯
I was waiting for a comment about Cillian's good looks or his eyes haha. He is indeed fine :-) Looking forward to your reaction to episode 4. It wil only get better with every season. I hope you will carry on.
I feel like you guys will definitely love season 2 even more 😅. There's a surprise act that you guys are definitely going to go crazy over 😂😂. Can't wait 😄
Does this show get any better than just a bunch of well dressed English dudes, walking slowly down an alley? lol dunno why the “drama” isn’t hitting for me on this one
this show stars a guile hero. so if you like watching protags who are less powerful than their foes but have to outsmart them then the story will hit for you. see: tyrion lannister frank underwood walter white for similar vibes in their shows.
brother do you understand how long it would take to edit and upload the both of them watching a *series* this long individually? let alone multiple shows?
As much as i am enjoying your reactions please can you indulge me with one small favour. Stop trying the accents! For the love of Dick Van Dyke, please stop.!
Tommy was a miner and sapper in WW1. He dug under enemy trenches to plant explosives. The Germans also had sapper and counter-sapper teams. Scary shit
could you even imagine what these men must have been like?
@@TheLevitatingFleem It makes being on a submarine look like paradise. Let alone the fact your enemy can come through the dirt at any time or the entire hole caves in.
@@joelwillis2043 Nah U-boats had the highest death rate along with pilots.
Imagine digging, and you hear them digging towards you. So you back up, grab your gun, and pray you live, pray a dynamite stick doesn't fly through and cave everyone in.
@@Gecko.... The u-boats of the ww1?
"Flanders blues" is another word for PTSD.
A lot of british soldiers served and fought in the region of Flanders during World War 1. Big battles such as Passchendaele and Ypres was fought there and hundreds of thousands British soldiers lost their lives there. Over the years, during and after the war, Flanders became a popular reference point for the suffering and pain that the war had brought in British culture. It's legacy is apparent in culturally important symbols, such as the famous poem "In Flanders Fields" and with the above mentioned slang for PTSD as well.
OhhhhI always thought it was another word for depression
Yupper. In Flanders Fields was written by a Canadian 😊. We all learn it by heart in elementary school. Flanders Blues and Shell Shock were both PTSD.
Shell Shock, it's called shell shock, not PTSD. No need for euphemisms or technical jargon to bury the pain underneath.
@@UmbraFulgur The term Shell Shock and Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) are considered by most people to be synonymous nowadays. Although Shell Shock itself refers to a specific type of PTSD inflicted by heavy artillery bombardment, it was used the same way and with the same meaning as PTSD is in current times. PTSD is a broad term and there are lots of different types of PTSD.
I might be wrong, but aren't the Remembrance poppies also related to Flanders?
Glad Cillian got the recognition he deserves last year, such a great actor.
The symmetry between Grace's red dress and the red dust blown on the horse in the first episode is amazing. In both cases, the red flash is Tommy distracting others around him to put a deeper plan in play. Great writing and cinematography.
My Great Grandfather was in the French Army during WW1 and basically spent 2 years living in a trench. My grandmother told me that he had to have a separate bed from his wife; to wake him up you had to use a broom handle and poke him from across the room as he woke swinging and screaming well into his 70s.
Thats so sad😢
Arthur doesn't scheme. He's a man of principles, bloodlust and rage and all. He is my 2nd favorite character in the show, because nobody can compete with that bakery owner...
You are giving them spoilers
@@rhutikkadam9683 I believe you're incorrect, wrong, and all-round mistaken. Merely my opinion, of course. How any person could divine the plot from my statement is beyond me, but if you'd care to explain you're welcome to.
@@sofa_king_kool you are a strange individual.
@@Clown_Syndromeyou are strange one
@@hashshashiin.forsī I'm guessing English isn't your first language. Am I right?
9:08 Flander's Blues is the cutsie name for Shell-Shocked... Or more commonly known as PTSD induced depression.
There was a whole, literal underground war fought in France during WW1. Because of the stalemate of trench warfare both sides tried tunnelling under each other’s trenches to plant huge amounts of explosives. Both sides then dug tunnels to try and intercept the others. When they met underground the fighting would be savage and hand -to-hand. Because of the confined space, weapon such as pistols, bayonets, shovels and clubs had to be used.
Yeah we know...
@@Gecko....the channel where he is posting this comment on clearly don’t u cheeky c*nt
@@Gecko.... You sound fun.
"Someone told me she had the syph, I thought what the hell." LMAO
23:00 one of the best lines in tv history
Agree 👍🏻
I loved her subtle look catching Billy Kimber's red hankerchief when he asked her to dance. HE was the one she was dressing up for. I love how Tommy never tells anyone what he wants from them until the last second. He had a sixty mile drive to the racetrack to brief Grace on how to get him through the door to the high class area of the races but never told her until the last second so she would jump at his order and not overthink it. He uses shock as a weapon.
7:56 *Dalton Mills* in *Keighley, Bradford, West Yorkshire.*
18:54 *King's Hall and Winter Garden* in *Ilkley, Bradford, West Yorkshire.*
Billy Kimber: played by Charlie Creed-Miles, one of his most memorable performances: David in the Fifth Element (Luc Besson directed-- stars Bruce Willis, Gary Oldman, Ian Holm, Milla Jovovich, and Chris Tucker)
Don't worry about swearing..............it's the only way we can put a sentence together here in Birmingham 😂
Ooo you're so cool...
@@Gecko.... Can't help speaking the truth - try listening to Ozzy Osbourne!
Back in the early 1970s, PBS ran the original production of Upstairs, Downstairs on Masterpiece Theatre hosted by Alistair Cooke who's intros and outros of each episode added historical and cultural context, sadly missing from historical films and series today. You cannot imagine how enormously the Great War of 1914-1918 as it was then called affected every family in Great Britain. Every family lost sons, husbands, brothers, cousins. No family was unaffected. Much of the roaring of the 1920s in Britain -- and there was plenty -- was a direct result. Sometimes you recover from trauma by going a little nuts. Or even a lot nuts. If you ever delve into Dorothy Sayers' detective character Lord Peter Wimsey as portrayed by Edward Petherbridge, you'll find that his personal eccentricities were a result of his wartime experiences, something of a substitute for the more traditional forms of shell shock.
So, some cultural stuff about the Roma people to clarify the dense and sometimes confusing g*psy/traveller discourse... that word is a slur as far as the Roma/Romani community are concerned, for the most part. They will use it to describe themselves sometimes, but it is not a word for outsiders, basically.
It historically, from what I have heard from romani people (you would say "they are romani" or "the roma," ect.), comes from discrimination from where they originate in India, where the term was used either for their skin tone or as a general term to describe them as an "untouchable," which has its own historical significance.
They have been pushed out, have moved around when it comes to the nomadic groups, have fled, and it is estimated that Hitler killed 80% of the Roma population (not sure if that was exclusive to countries conquered by Germany or in total, but it was a lot).
For another movie reference, John Wick was part of the Ruska Roma, which is the Russian romani population.
Even today, there are laws in places like Romania that gives much harsher sentencing to Romani people, do not let them in certain businesses, they will turn self defense for anyone else into a murder charge, ect.
There are Roma communities that are nomadic, and ones that are not. Their culture is often very insular because of a lot of beliefs and because of their treatment historically. Depending on if a clan/family/group is nomadic or not, often kids are learning a trade within the group, and they all work together. Because of this, there are a lot of stereotypes about the Roma when it comes to education, because after a certain point they do not need traditional schooling for said trade. Similar to college vs trade school, but it happens a little younger. There can be a lot of mysticism in their culture, though many were forced to become christian and such, so it is similar to places like Latin America where you get a mix of the church with their beliefs as well, which is why you get the Christian iconography in the John Wick series. Their original religious beliefs are closer to some beliefs that you would find in India. What people believe about them is much worse, and the things I have heard are both insane and terrible. The "bohemian" style of clothing is also based on Roma culture and patterns, some dances have been based on theirs (but they were not allowed to participate in any competitions or allowed in the dance halls for a long time).
I have a friend who is Romani, and her parents gave her up for adoption and lied about her ancestry to keep the adoptive parents from knowing she was Romani. She is in the US, and they only did it to try to protect their child from the harm they endured.
In the UK and Ireland, there are Roma and there are travellers. Travellers have their own culture and language, but back then both the Roma and travellers were called g*psies. The show is historically accurate, including the hate and general mistrust, but it unfortunately has made a lot of people use the slur even more liberally. Even when John Wick used the right terminology, all of the explanations of lore used the slur, which is exhausting.
There is a recurring theme of royalty that was brought up in the second episode and will continue to come up. Johnny Dogs says that Tommy's grandfather was a king. Before the translation, if you listen to the actual words, when he says "king," he says "roma." Roma is also their word for king, which is basically the head of their family clan/group. That side of the family is Romani, and "royalty" at that. So they aren't just the head of a gang, they do have some standing based on their bloodline in the Roma community. They also are travellers on the other side, I believe.
In addition, while Tommy's close family is what you mostly see, other people in their lives that you saw that they refer to as family would have travelled with them, like Charlie, and he would have been on the Roma side. You get some more backstory later on.
A lot of comments on this stuff was kind of all over the place and vague, or history heavy, so I hope this helps.
Flanders blues is a reference to Flanders fields. One of the battlefields in WW1 that the famous poem is about that inspired the use of poppies to commemorate the fallen of the war. So the Flanders blues is a reference to PTSD, a way of describing the depressive feeling they couldn't really understand at the time.
The actor that played the IRA guy with the moustache died a few years ago. He was a regular on a soap in Ireland, and a prominent enough stage actor, I think.
Excuse the history comment, but funnily, when he grabs Grace, he says she's to be brought for interrogation on behalf of the Irish Free State. While that term may have been used colloquially, in reality he would have said on behalf of the Irish Republic, as it's around around 1919 or 1920 at this point. Hence, the name Irish Republican Army 😅
The Irish Free State wasn't established until December 1922, after the Anglo-Irish Treaty was signed twelve months previous to that. The Free State was a dominion of the British Empire, and its creation resulted in a civil between pro- and anti-Treaty Irish republicans between 1922-23. The civil war features as a backdrop to events in this series too.
Yes seeing someone else see it first time is the closest im going to get to seeing it the first time myself, please keep going! ❤
I'm so happy to see yall watching this show, can't wait to watch along with yall
Only thing more horrifying than trench warfare has got to be tunnel warfare
Great Reaction and thanks for looking up "Flanders Blues". It saves 2 minutes of "second guessing" that some other reactors of shows ,choose to do when we now are able to,also,see your reaction to that knowledge.
Know who’s not scheming? Arthur Shelby! He just doesn’t have the mind for it! He’s a wild card though! Great job ladies! Doing a fine job with a show that’s not easy to figure! 🙂💯
Fantastic reaction. It's great to watch you two getting drawn further and further into this fabulous story, episode by episode.
I was waiting for a comment about Cillian's good looks or his eyes haha. He is indeed fine :-)
Looking forward to your reaction to episode 4. It wil only get better with every season. I hope you will carry on.
Stunning man ❤
Can you react to peaky blinders everyday!!?
Ik right
2 times a week would be better, lot of shows the people aleready saw, i mean i want the reaction, not the content of the series
i truly wish
I'm here for Maple's English accent impressions
It's stupid AF literally nobody in England speak like that
im not! here for all the rest of it tho haha
Stop lying buddy we know what you're here for
As someone from less than 10 miles from Birmingham my ears hurt 2/10 at best for the accent 🤣🤣🤣
@@chrisallen19821982 1/10 for THe Brummie accent.Period:)
Oh boy, Arianna has caught the Cillian Murphy bug 😆
You mean the Thomas Shelby bug. There’s a huge difference
@@KickinthescienceNo I love Cillian Murphy just as much ❤
I’m a huge peaky fan, and watching ur reactions are super dopeeeeeee
I hope you two keep reacting to this show, it's so good!
Tommy's really benefitting from that Halo Effect, lmao.
Please cover 2 episodes per week. I love rewatching this show with you
You guys are so funny, please do two episodes at a time!!
I feel like you guys will definitely love season 2 even more 😅. There's a surprise act that you guys are definitely going to go crazy over 😂😂. Can't wait 😄
PLEASSSEEEEE KEEP DOING PEAKY BLINDERS
Sadly dont see the subtitles. Hard to understand what they say.
Good reaction and edit. I just wish that the background Peaky Blinders dialog was at a higher volume. Even at high volume it was pretty quiet.
I'll work on it
Yes Arianna with the JWoww reference 👏👏👏
I'm back at the Free University of Diegegis.
😂😂😂 Thank you
do more peaky blinders Reactions! love it
I look forward to your reaction to River Monsters Episode 4.
When episode 4 will come😖😖
The way this skips around is rough for this show because every scene seems so important
How the Frigg is this anything like River Monsters. 🤣🤣
Really recommend Ford V Ferrari, if you haven't already 😅
I feel like you guys would like veronica mars as a show to react to. Lots of scheming and mystery in that one.
double these uploads dudes
Im really enjoying these reactions use do it perfect. Commentate but dont keep pausing etc❤
Bois, it's not the looks, but the way you carry out yourself out.
Ps. don't be a douche.
nice video and reaction but two things: could you check that the subtitles are visible? and could you stop zooming in?😅
Watch the film "wild bill" the actor playing Kimber is great in it.
Don’t crop the video, badly need subtitles, the accents are so thick
Damn you guys didn't said anything the whole episode 🗿 it must be easy being a reactor.
Oh hell yeah!
You guys really need to react to XMEN97.
Its brilliant
🎉🎉
Does this show get any better than just a bunch of well dressed English dudes, walking slowly down an alley? lol dunno why the “drama” isn’t hitting for me on this one
this show stars a guile hero.
so if you like watching protags who are less powerful than their foes but have to outsmart them then the story will hit for you.
see:
tyrion lannister
frank underwood
walter white
for similar vibes in their shows.
You guys watch everything together....peaky blinders, stranger things,full metal Alchemist........ruining the satisfaction 😢
What are you on about? They are a great duo together.
brother do you understand how long it would take to edit and upload the both of them watching a *series* this long individually? let alone multiple shows?
As much as i am enjoying your reactions please can you indulge me with one small favour. Stop trying the accents! For the love of Dick Van Dyke, please stop.!