Making bouncing arrows
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- Опубліковано 26 лют 2024
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The Ugri people of Northern Finland and Russia use bouncing arrows for hunting ducks. I made some and used them on a flock of rubber ducks with great success. In this video I show you how to make them and show them in use again.
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"When life gives you a torrential flood of water, make bouncing arrows and shoot rubber ducks."
The words to live by
"Mum! Dad's shooting the bath ducks again!" Excellent video as always.
Only complaint should be "and he won't let me have a go!"
New world record topic: Most water bounces with arrows?
I just fitted one of these to an arrow for my compound bow which is a 50 pound draw at the moment
I got 4-5 bounces before the arrow hit the shore i am lowering the draw to see if that ups the bounciness if it doesn’t i will go to my max which is 70
Totally, make it world event (like Olympic game).
@@Thatoneguy-ju6gqKeep us posted. It will be interesting to know about the progress
Believe it or not, there are official rock skipping competitions.
These arrows are great for a game of 'duck, duck, goose'.
Can you find it with duck duck go?
More like "Duck, duck, erk!"
Love the workshop content, more please.
That being said, anybody else get the heebie-jeebies with Tod's tattered sleeve got near the lathe? It's the second rule of machine tools. "No jewelry, loose fitting clothing, or long hair near the machine"
Also, "When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade - make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons, what am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life's manager." -Cave Johnson
The ducks at the end were the icingh on the cake. They just knew you could/would not hurt them.
Glad to see the use of a respirator when working the bone. You absolutely do not want to inhale bone dust.
What's so special about bone dust? Is it much worse than wood, plastic or metal dust?
@@YanDoroshenko No: all dust is harmful.
@@YanDoroshenko those are all bad too. But bone being from a body absolutely harbors micro organisms, the kind that metal, plastic, or treated wood probably won't have. But as Jim said, all dust is harmful. Always where a mask or respirator when making lots of it.
@@YanDoroshenko Anything organic that ends up inside the body is more likely to cause problems than inorganic materials.
@@DIREWOLFx75I'm not sure that's true. I'd rather have wood dust in my lungs than asbestos.
Organic things can be broken down, whereas inorganic things can cause problems when tissues respond to them in unfortunate ways e.g. forming cancerous growths.
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I think you're seriously one of my favorite youtubers. Very informative and interesting videos, always fun to watch, as I do sometimes with my dad. Thanks for the content Mr. Tod.
Get your tongue further up there it might taste better
your frayed sleeves close to the three-jaw chuck had me literally cringe - stay safe and keep up the great content!
Maybe that is why Tod's sleeves are frayed!
It's criminal that Tod only has 500k subs. The joy and passion for history that he brings to his videos just shines through. He's an absolute treasure. Good on ya Tod.
Although it's not your intention, that first sentence was a rather rude. I hope you don't mind my bringing this up, but I see this philosophy far too often.
1) It states that Tod isn't getting what he deserves. Not getting what you deserve feels bad.
2) It implies that either people (and/or the algorithm) are fools for not subscribing. That's insulting to the people.
3) It implies that 500k subs isn't an amazing achievement. THAT'S insulting too!
4) It conflates subjective opinions with (ideally) objective justice. This weakens the morals of our culture (and/or is a symptom of weakened morals).
Thank you for re-creating, demonstrating and sharing the incredible engineering and construction from so long ago. Well done, Sir.
Love the avian cameo at the end there!
🐔🐔🦆 👀
"Ain't nobody here but us chickens..."
Nice to see a follow up on the duck hunting video.
I'm writing a medieval fantasy book that includes a number of hunting scenes. Next time I have one of my characters is doing a waterfowl hunting scene, I'll try including this into the story. Thanks Todd, you've been one of my sources of knowledge and inspiration for my writing.
I have been pretty taken with this design ever since I heard of this arrow type. Could love to see someone duck hunt using these.
When life gives you , make !
The idea is not to bounce the arrows but to aim at the closest duck and if you miss that duck the bouncing may still hit one of the farther ducks. You do not try to skip the arrow into the duck. If you try to skip the arrow into the ducks they will see it coming.
makes sense
I would think that the ducks would not have enough time to react and to get away with one or two bounces. Trying to hit the first one would make more sense in the way that arrow would not have lost as much energy yet as each one of the bounces does drain more energy than traveling through air.
I positively adore the bow you use in this, Tod. I dream of having a similar one.
I tried something like this with sling stones. I used clay for the projectile and I cut a cross in the front of the slug so that it could grip the ground and bounce back up when the back flips up and around because of inertia. They worked better than any other biconical bullets I've made but they didn't work nearly as well as solid round shot when I want the bouncing effect.
I would love to see a tour throu the workshop one day !!!
I used to work in the USA and one of the guys was first nations. He had some bouncing arrows and about 300 acres with a very large pond in the middle. One evening we were invited to a duck hunt. Beer flowed freely. anyway there must have been 100 ducks on the pond. He takes aim but is a bit too high with the bow. Result? The arrow bounced along the water bouncing in between the ducks. It must have bounced over at least 6. We all fell about laughing and the ducks flew off. He got the nickname chief bouncey after that.
It reminds me of an ancient video from Billy Berger (Primitive Pathways) where he tried to make and shoot these. But it didnt work out for him as well as it did for you.
Cue arrow + bouncy ball combination
Would be interesting to see how you'd go about making those the bushcraft way
Now the inevitable duck uprising is doomed to failure.
Safety - Your sleeve near that lathe. Just watching out for you, man.
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That is a real elven bow!
THIS ONE, was a OUTSTANDING & AWESOME video. Sure you're vids are always awesome 😉🤘
Ha! for the ending. When I was young we went out hunting once and were set upon by a pack of wild turkey's (scary as anything and running through the forest single file).
Flipping through the local hunters handbook we were, indeed, in the middle of a tiny spot of "no turkey hunting". THEY KNOW!
Thanks for this one!
Love the intro
Excellent, missed the rubber duckies though.
ANother great video Tod!! I didn't think the other video was a few years ago but last year. Time sure does fly
I very much enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up
great vid! loved learning about this type of arrow
Interesting stuff. Thank you for sharing your knowledge
Beautiful craftspanship, awesome history, thanks for the nice video ❤
You should have said, "When life gives you ducks, you make duck soup!" 😁
Can you imagine being a little boy and your father comes to you with a bow and these arrows and tells you to practice with them? This looks like the greatest toy for young boys I’ve ever seen. It wouldn’t even take any convincing to get them to practice. They’d do it all day long because this looks fun!
Love these ‘how to’ vids with actual manufacture!
Tod have you seen Friar John of Plano Carpini's writings on the Mongols? He describes some very cool ways of making armor, and describes them hardening their arrowheads in salt water. It's a cool first hand account of arms and armor in the 1240s.
Awesome! thanks for another video.
That antenna dagger look like an athropromorphic celtic dagger that lost its head.
excellent
Oi, that is Violetta against Rubberduckies, that is. 😂😂😂
All jokes aside, the arrows are amazing.
Medieval bouncing Betty's. Very cool!👌
I would assume that the wooden arrowhead makes the arrows--the head, anyway--float and so much easier to find and retrieve after they're shot.
And probably easier to see end on too.
@@daveansell1970 Yes, that's part of what I meant by "easier to find."
Tod, why didn't Navies use this technology for their ranged fires? Surely it would have been a great way to deliver an explosive charge to a ship's hull!
👏 BRAVO Amazing
Most impressive. Thank you. Ideal as ducks are only perhaps 15cm high on the water but a flock can be metres wide.
I know that if I ever see Tod in the wild, my instincts will tell me to duck.
it's the indigenous version of the modern smart weapon. it self corrects it's way to the target .
Hahaha I love the conclusion with the ducks. :)
wow
When life gives you lemons, you make "sweet and sour" syrup. Good for a hell of a lot of tasty cocktails.
😂😅😊
7:14 love the music! 😆
Cool.
5:24 - BOUNCING BOMB? I recall a documentary about the design of British dambuster bombs of WW2 being inspired by the bouncing of cannonballs on the sea during maritime battles. Since watching your video, I'm beginning to beliieve 'bouncing arrows' were the true inspiration for ship's captains deploying the 'bouncing' cannon. Therefore, Barnes Wallis owes much of the success of the Dambusters to 'bouncing arrows'.
The design sketch omits perhaps the most important measure, the angle of the leading face on the body. The angle responsible for effective bounging.
Hi Todd a very interesting weapon indeed maybe a Barnes Wallis conceptual idea..Would they originally have fashioned it in one piece from say an antler horn?
I wonder if this led to the grazing shot with cannon.
Wow!!! Great job! I saw somewhere in a museum in Russia, German or Czech crossbows are small like in your last video, but the arc is very thick, 15th century, it doesn’t look ordinary, but it’s impressive. The tension of such arcs is not less than 250 kg. if not more. Have you seen this interesting? If I find a photo I'll send you. It's nice to see like-minded people. Thank you!!!!
Tod, can I send you a V block to clamp things with when using a drill? You give me nightmares.
Not sure if this has already been mentioned, but I think another argument for these arrowheads being used for birding is that hunters don't need to kill a bird. The arrows don't need to penetrate and bleed the bird, just knock it down so it can be recovered and then butchered. An arrow going through it might be a bad thing even, since the guts become a mess and it could complicate butchering them for consumption.
Cheeky little quackers
This is amazing! Your products are so well-crafted, and I’d love to own one of everything ;) What kind of bone do you choose when using it in your products?
I wonder if Barnes Wallis who invented the Dam Busters bouncing bombs was aware of these arrows?
That's the kids version. For adults, it's: When life gives your lemons, make limoncella.
I wonder if this would work better with a crossbow since it's probably easier to fire from very low above the ground
Missing the ducks would drive you quackers! 🦆🐥😂
Great vid as usual.
I wonder, have you tested other shapes?
I'm wondering if spheres would work or do they need to be that exact shape?
And it's a loaded question, because I have wooden spheres 😂
Using them will save me many hours on the lathe.
spheres would not work very well. Imagine stone skipping with a ball.
If I'm understanding the arrow skipping correctly, the angle of the leading face is very important. A well defined edge at the widest point to promote flow seperation also helps.
...🤣🤣 bloomin`ducks!!!
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Thanks - And the missing information is it in on my wall because it has a 70's dance woman with a bow and reading the blurb on the back the bow was hired from Lillywhites in London, where I got my first bow
Methinks a pair of hip waders would not go amiss.
When life gives you lemons...make Limoncello. 👍
Great videooo I have a random question but I've been trying to make bolts and Ive heard twice now of paper fletchings made from books back in the day and I was wondering if you could make a video on them
I'd be curious to see how these might work with a more conventional modern razor broadhead out front with more than just the two points. Maybe a four pointed radial fork, for that matter?
I just feel like you're trusting a bit too much to luck regarding the rotation of those two points, unless it turns out a single point was enough all along?
Firearm Safety Training - "Never shoot at water or a hard flat surface"
Todd - Lookit my bouncy bouncy duck hunting arrows. 😅
Tod isn't doing anything wrong because the range isn't anywhere near that of a stray bullet and more predictable in its flight path. But the contrast amused me.
Bow hunting is against the law in the U.K., yet technically every able bodied man is still supposed to own and regularly train with a bow every Sunday! 😂
smart ducks. Is there any chance you would produce a bearded hatchet for your standard line of products?
Would bouncing crossbow bolts work? Waterfowling would be an excellent application for a fast reloading, lower powered crossbow.
can you make similar forked arrow tips out of Honey locust thorns which are typically branching like antlers?
I'm from Arizona, I just assumed that's what your field looks like regularly, maybe in a British Drought... 🤣
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I want a Tod/Blumineck collab :D
You forgot to mention that bouncing arrows are essential when you try to hit a target that is located directly under low hanging branches near the shore.
What are the mechanical differences of bone vs. wood?
I never had the experience working with them.
Tod, was there a form used for land combat? It sounds like a tool made for breaking up shield squares by "ankle biting" them. But that's how I'm planning to throw it down at a D& D game, anyway! Btw, sent a text to my cousin who bow hunts for deer- he's more than once groused about not having a good weapon for duck season. I expect local tests nest season!
.... and the ducks show up to a duck shooting range. Bow hunting is not illegal in Canada, although there are strict seasons and regulations.
Hmm... 🤔 If only there was some way to combine bouncing arrows with ice hockey...
I love those and such a novel idea. We come from a lineage of subsistence survivors where there were no holds barred when it came to scratching out a living or just a meal. Also, so sad that everything fun is so heavily regulated for you guys in UK.
I'm pretty sure most UK residents don't want animals to suffer due to people "having fun" using them as targets.
@@robertfitzjohn4755 you misunderstood my statement. I was referring to the way we in the Us have less restrictions upon the type of weapons we can own and yes hunting is an enjoyable pursuit. So many folks today have been brainwashed against such things as hunting and even fishing as being torturous to animals.
@@scotthaddad563- We're on a tiny island and our bloodthirsty ancestors killed off all the interesting wildlife a thousand years ago. Bears, wolves, beavers, wild boar, cattle, goats, killer sheep, elk, haggis, confused kangaroos - all gone. Scottish wildcats are virtually extinct.
And I have to disagree about hunting being 'an enjoyable pursuit'; this is me: 🦊 ask me how I know! Recreational hunting - killing for pleasure - is a sad and sick demonstration of human inadequacy. Ooh, look at me! Me go on safari! Me Alpha Male! Me got gun! Me kill elephant/ rhino/ lion/ deer/ whatever from great distance! Me tougher than big angry moose! Yay, me!
That's pathetic.
I'll change my opinion when you kill a boar or a bear with nothing more than your hands and teeth. If you can't do that, leave the poor bloody things alone.
Coarse fishing in the UK is licensed and strictly catch-and-release. The fish aren't killed. Some of our big carp are minor celebrities in the fishing community; people have been catching the same ones, weighing them, photographing them and returning them unharmed for decades.
Game fishing (trout, salmon, grayling) can be done for food, but is even more tightly regulated and under (rather expensive) licence.
We don't fish with dynamite.
Blasting bullets (and arrows and buckshot and quarrels) into anything that moves isn't big or clever, but it's very, very Merkin. 😞
@@scotthaddad563I don't think you're "brainwashed" if you believe that other animals with a highly developed nervous system can feel pain and be distressed by it. I'd argue it's more the case that many Americans have been "brainwashed" to believe that owning guns is a vital part of their "freedom". We Brits prefer the freedom of not having to worry about mass shootings, which are more or less a daily occurrence in the USA.
Here in the UK some forms of hunting are permitted. I believe fishing is generally allowed, as is certain kinds of hunting with a gun (though you'll need a licence). Most animals can't be hunted, either for conservation reasons, or because a humane kill isn't likely (e.g. fox hunting with hounds, or amateurs taking potshots with a crossbow).
@@EleanorPeterson calm dow please, you may cause yourself to have a coronary. Sheesh! I will not get drawn into a tit for tat, tedious argument about some comment I made on a video that I enjoyed. Have a good life man and go take a chill pill.
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hey tod unrelated but i thought it mite be up your ally. can the first gun the fire lance. shoot through plate armour?
Tod wearing wellies, but soaked anyway.
When life give you a pond, dine on ducks?
Or a whiskey sour
It would need to be close. Killing a duck or a goose requires more power than you imagine. They have hard densely packed feathers that even stop shotgun pellets to a degree. Plus, they are really tough birds and without a well trained water dog , would be hard to retrieve from the pond or lake . hitting your prey is one thing, but taking it home for dinner is quite a different story.
I thought the line was "If life gives you lemons, have a tequila."
Perhaps if you're a drinking man.
Am I right in assuming that crescent or forked arrowhead would not be sharpened on the inside of the curve since you want vegetation to stop them ?
What kind of advantage do they have over a blunt ?
The crescent shape kept the arrow from going into or under the reeds. It acts as plow.
Did you make the bow yourself?
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